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Hi all,

My turn to say bogus on that when I too, was told that . Whew! With

to many too mention . Starting with the doctors to get an actual Dx.

This is exactly what I did for 's school , I had his Ped doc to

fax it directly to school , of course I have a copy . This for sure

is important starting a file with every written information or

jotting phone conversations to always have on handy . Part of a

parents responsibility is to gather all the available information and

resources we possibly can . Parents become the experts at searching

out hard to find services . We need to use the diagnosis as a tool .

To get the proper care,treatment, therapy , and schooling . What a

journey to help our children . Once DX is confirmed it helps set up

an action plan . We will often have several different diagnostic

examinations for our children . Parents should be the most important

members of the diagnostic team ; feelings and observations should be

taken into account in making the final diagnosis . Working with the

educators . Prayers that we could be able to work together for our

child . Gathering infromation and study the law. Legally have your

written consent before any evalutions or assessements can be done .

The purpose of an assessement is to determine the child's strengths,

assets,current performance levels, and educational needs . Not just

their weaknessess . After assessements . It is important to have full

knowledge and understanding of the diagnostic assessments.

Occasionally we will need to remind people that there is a child

involved , not just scores on a test . Goals written into the IEP are

for the child , not the teacher . Always keep in mind that children

change and so must IEP's . As we learn more about the whole special

education process and gain skills we develop more self-confidence and

effectiveness. I love the idea of the Pofile sheet , Gail . It shows

strengths & weakness , the educational setting where our child does

best in , and the type of help believe needed . Its a homes

viewpoint . Shows of things your child is capable of doing . We must

always share information to the teacher to understand our child .

's teacher was suprised to discover to hear the difference of

things he does at home , thats just whenever we get together or when

she calls me . The importantance to pray for understanding here (as

when seeking a medical diagnosis). Stand up for what your child

really needs . Getting the diagnosis , its hard for the parent and

the teacher , as well . Sometimes its a relief getting a label for

it . But the hard work starts now . If the school would like to give

their own diagnosis and the parents listen to them . The first step

would probably be this and that worked at home , why not at

school ? . Due to this nuerological Disorder or mental retardation

(excuse the word) in your school's case . Then request services

needed for your child by evalutions in the areas needed . If the

school still disagrees , thats were the private evalutions will have

to be done and then given to the school to follow through . Sounds

like " burnout " if not resolved . I'll stop here because I've done it

again , yak yak . Sorry no help , just needed to vent out as I had a

flashback . Luck .

Irma, 13,DS/ASD.

> >However yesterday I met two more

> >>parents of young children with D.S. who fear they have

> >>ASD and the school has told them that dual diagnosis

> >>does not exist.

>

> We were also told this by the school. I got the doctor that dx'd

JJ to put

> it on a script and to write a letter. Was even told by a respected

UC in my

> area " Why would you want him to have another dx--isn't DS enough?

Besides it

> is not possible to have a dual dx. " Autism makes a difference on

services,

> he gets more than with just DS.

>

>

> & Garry, parents of (11 ds), (10 ds), JJ (7

> ds/autism/celiac), (7 ds/ADHD/Celiac), and Esther (4 ds). All

adopted.

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> > Hi Irma and

thanks for that. I think the real big difference

between the U.K. and U.S.A. is that the services you

get are all the same no matter what the diagnosis. So

even if we do manage to get a dual diagnosis she will

still only receive exactly the same services as she is

now. This is possibly the reason why school isn't

really that interested.

The difference for me is that once I know for sure

what her extra problems are I will hopefully be able

to understand her better and learn how to deal

appropriately with her.

School is full of opposites. Her behaviour is due to

her being at the lower end of the Downs spectrum yet

they themselves admit that intellectually she is

bright and improving to a degree that they are very

pleased with.

I have decided my best way forward is to find a

professional who is sympathetic to dual diagnosis.Get

an independent assessment and then hit the school with

that.

lisa mum to Rebekah 3

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> > > Hi Irma and

> thanks for that. I think the real big difference

> between the U.K. and U.S.A. is that the services you

> get are all the same no matter what the diagnosis. So

> even if we do manage to get a dual diagnosis she will

> still only receive exactly the same services as she is

> now. This is possibly the reason why school isn't

> really that interested.

> The difference for me is that once I know for sure

> what her extra problems are I will hopefully be able

> to understand her better and learn how to deal

> appropriately with her.

> School is full of opposites. Her behaviour is due to

> her being at the lower end of the Downs spectrum yet

> they themselves admit that intellectually she is

> bright and improving to a degree that they are very

> pleased with.

> I have decided my best way forward is to find a

> professional who is sympathetic to dual diagnosis.Get

> an independent assessment and then hit the school with

> that.

> lisa mum to Rebekah 3

> >

> >

Hi ,

When I had just hit the reply , I had just remembered about you

living in UK . Yes, Of what I heard there is a difference . What you

wrote on towards the end of your message I agree , that would be your

best bet for now . Whenever I can , I 'll check with my other UK e-

friends how they dealt with the dx and school issues . Luck .

Irma, 13,DS/ASD

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--- ICANFIELD@... wrote: >

> > > >Hi Irma

thanks so much for that

> > lisa mum to Rebekah 3

> > >

> > >

> Hi ,

> When I had just hit the reply , I had just

> remembered about you

> living in UK . Yes, Of what I heard there is a

> difference . What you

> wrote on towards the end of your message I agree ,

> that would be your

> best bet for now . Whenever I can , I 'll check with

> my other UK e-

> friends how they dealt with the dx and school issues

> . Luck .

> Irma, 13,DS/ASD

>

>

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