Guest guest Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 I guess since most of our children are in school all day-we'd be dancing by ourselves at home Is she suggsting that we spend no time with our children?? I think the article is a bit condescending, arrogant and self-serving. Maurine Hokkanen <nhokkanen@...> wrote: "I abandoned my quest to find out “how” it happened, because frankly, I don't care." http://www.autismspeaks.org/community/ownwords/intheirownwords_fiona.php Although I agree with the central message of this mother's essay -- to love our children unconditionally -- the above statement gives pause. That old axiom stating that those who do not remember the past are doomed to repeat it... learning from mistakes. And it has the same polarizing attitude used by one of the medical writers' conference speakers that I posted yesterday: coded "good" vs. "bad." If you search for the cause of your child's disability, you cannot simultaneously love the child. A very strange posit that many of us disprove daily. The message reinforced by Orenstein and his lot is that we parents should abandon the millions of Google entries about vaccines and autism, and remain within the confines of our emotions. Forget about our kids' lab work, or ARI research, or FOIA documents showing CDC corruption. All you need is love.. and maybe ABA. - Hokkanen Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join 's user panel and lay it on us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 I just vomited a little into my mouth. I hate it when that happens.... > " I abandoned my quest to find out " how " it happened, because frankly, I don't care. " > > http://www.autismspeaks.org/community/ownwords/intheirownwords_fiona.p hp > > Although I agree with the central message of this mother's essay - - to love our children unconditionally -- the above statement gives pause. That old axiom stating that those who do not remember the past are doomed to repeat it... learning from mistakes. > > And it has the same polarizing attitude used by one of the medical writers' conference speakers that I posted yesterday: coded " good " vs. " bad. " If you search for the cause of your child's disability, you cannot simultaneously love the child. A very strange posit that many of us disprove daily. > > The message reinforced by Orenstein and his lot is that we parents should abandon the millions of Google entries about vaccines and autism, and remain within the confines of our emotions. Forget about our kids' lab work, or ARI research, or FOIA documents showing CDC corruption. All you need is love.. and maybe ABA. > > - Hokkanen > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join 's user panel and lay it on us. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 If you bring your Uncle Pete in for chemo, you don't really love him as he is. To love Uncle Pete is to love his cancer too. If you point fingers at the benzene plant- " Tumors-R-Us, Inc. " - up river from Uncle Pete, it's just negative thinking. Never mind that you and your children live even closer to the plant. It's just not in the spirit of loving Uncle Pete to move away or ask that the plant stop dumping toxic waste at the school playground. Never mind that speaking up could save hundreds of thousands of lives, it upsets the corporate owners of the plant and harshes their mellow, making you a bad, angry person who can't let bygones be bygones, which is a sign of mental illness. So is wasting time reading about the dangers of benzene on the web- the company already told you that benzene is good for you. Instead you should just make Pete confortable for the three months he has left, watch all the children in your city go bald, take your happy pills, play with your home lobotomy kit provided by Tumors-R-Us and shut up. > > " I abandoned my quest to find out " how " it happened, because frankly, I don't care. " > > > http://www.autismspeaks.org/community/ownwords/intheirownwords_fiona. php > > Although I agree with the central message of this mother's essay -- to love our children unconditionally -- the above statement gives pause. That old axiom stating that those who do not remember the past are doomed to repeat it... learning from mistakes. > > And it has the same polarizing attitude used by one of the medical writers' conference speakers that I posted yesterday: coded " good " vs. " bad. " If you search for the cause of your child's disability, you cannot simultaneously love the child. A very strange posit that many of us disprove daily. > > The message reinforced by Orenstein and his lot is that we parents should abandon the millions of Google entries about vaccines and autism, and remain within the confines of our emotions. Forget about our kids' lab work, or ARI research, or FOIA documents showing CDC corruption. All you need is love.. and maybe ABA. > > - Hokkanen > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2007 Report Share Posted September 8, 2007 > > " I abandoned my quest to find out " how " it happened, because frankly, I don't care. " > http://www.autismspeaks.org/community/ownwords/intheirownwords_fiona.php > Here's the part that caught my eye: " We chose to be Fiona's mommy and daddy and not victims of autism. And now, every day, I choose to be happy. " This sounds like the Options Institute philosophy " Happiness is a Choice " , which has rather nice ring to it as I think many people do seem to have a vested interest in their own misery and victimhood. But while happiness is a choice, justice is indispensable. The perception of pain/fear serves to warn oneself of danger. To numb it with willful happiness is cheaper than using pharmaceuticals or getting drunk, but no less maladaptive. According to this Pollyana's philosophy we ought to decriminalize hit and run accidents, too. Who cares how your loved-one was injured? Lenny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2007 Report Share Posted September 8, 2007 Happiness IS a choice- as with anything in life. I am happy with my son AND I’m doing everything I can to recover him. Why does it have to be one thing or the other? Why can’t it be both? Personally, I think if parents had more of a positive attitude and stopped asking “why me?”, they would be a lot happier. Blaming someone (be it yourself or some company) isn’t going to change the past. All you have is today. And right now my son is playing in the backyard with the neighborhood kids. The teenager is teaching him how to throw a football and I couldn’t be any happier. On 9/7/07 6:30 PM, " schaferatsprynet " <schafer@...> wrote: > > " I abandoned my quest to find out " how " it happened, because frankly, I don't care. " > http://www.autismspeaks.org/community/ownwords/intheirownwords_fiona.php > Here's the part that caught my eye: " We chose to be Fiona's mommy and daddy and not victims of autism. And now, every day, I choose to be happy. " This sounds like the Options Institute philosophy " Happiness is a Choice " , which has rather nice ring to it as I think many people do seem to have a vested interest in their own misery and victimhood. But while happiness is a choice, justice is indispensable. The perception of pain/fear serves to warn oneself of danger. To numb it with willful happiness is cheaper than using pharmaceuticals or getting drunk, but no less maladaptive. According to this Pollyana's philosophy we ought to decriminalize hit and run accidents, too. Who cares how your loved-one was injured? Lenny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2007 Report Share Posted September 8, 2007 Extremely well put! Re: Autism Speaks parent essay > > "I abandoned my quest to find out "how" it happened, because frankly, I don't care." > http://www.autismspeaks.org/community/ownwords/intheirownwords_fiona.php > Here's the part that caught my eye: "We chose to be Fiona's mommy and daddy and not victims of autism. And now, every day, I choose to be happy." This sounds like the Options Institute philosophy "Happiness is a Choice", which has rather nice ring to it as I think many people do seem to have a vested interest in their own misery and victimhood. But while happiness is a choice, justice is indispensable. The perception of pain/fear serves to warn oneself of danger. To numb it with willful happiness is cheaper than using pharmaceuticals or getting drunk, but no less maladaptive. According to this Pollyana's philosophy we ought to decriminalize hit and run accidents, too. Who cares how your loved-one was injured? Lenny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2007 Report Share Posted September 8, 2007 Happiness is watching my grandson progress. Happiness is seeing the criminals pay for their crimes. Happiness is a warm puppy(Peanuts). There are lots of kinds of happiness. maurinechristine <christine@...> wrote: Happiness IS a choice- as with anything in life. I am happy with my son AND I’m doing everything I can to recover him. Why does it have to be one thing or the other? Why can’t it be both? Personally, I think if parents had more of a positive attitude and stopped asking “why me?”, they would be a lot happier. Blaming someone (be it yourself or some company) isn’t going to change the past. All you have is today. And right now my son is playing in the backyard with the neighborhood kids. The teenager is teaching him how to throw a football and I couldn’t be any happier. On 9/7/07 6:30 PM, "schaferatsprynet" <schafersprynet> wrote: >> "I abandoned my quest to find out "how" it happened, becausefrankly, I don't care." > http://www.autismspeaks.org/community/ownwords/intheirownwords_fiona.php> Here's the part that caught my eye:"We chose to be Fiona's mommy and daddy and not victims of autism.And now, every day, I choose to be happy."This sounds like the Options Institute philosophy "Happiness is aChoice", which has rather nice ring to it as I think many people doseem to have a vested interest in their own misery and victimhood. But while happiness is a choice, justice is indispensable. Theperception of pain/fear serves to warn oneself of danger. To numb itwith willful happiness is cheaper than using pharmaceuticals orgetting drunk, but no less maladaptive. According to this Pollyana'sphilosophy we ought to decriminalize hit and run accidents, too. Whocares how your loved-one was injured? Lenny Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2007 Report Share Posted September 8, 2007 And, I really don't care why the semi jumped the sidewalk and creamed my kid. CGF p.s. I'm almost never sarcastic! > > > > " I abandoned my quest to find out " how " it happened, because > frankly, I don't care. " > > > > > > > http://www.autismspeaks.org/community/ownwords/intheirownwords_fiona. > php > > > > Although I agree with the central message of this mother's essay -- > to love our children unconditionally -- the above statement gives > pause. That old axiom stating that those who do not remember the > past are doomed to repeat it... learning from mistakes. > > > > And it has the same polarizing attitude used by one of the medical > writers' conference speakers that I posted yesterday: coded " good " > vs. " bad. " If you search for the cause of your child's disability, > you cannot simultaneously love the child. A very strange posit that > many of us disprove daily. > > > > The message reinforced by Orenstein and his lot is that we parents > should abandon the millions of Google entries about vaccines and > autism, and remain within the confines of our emotions. Forget about > our kids' lab work, or ARI research, or FOIA documents showing CDC > corruption. All you need is love.. and maybe ABA. > > > > - Hokkanen > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2007 Report Share Posted September 8, 2007 Lenny, I posted my semi truck comment and then read your post (I'm on digest)! Great/scary minds and all, Carolyn > > > > " I abandoned my quest to find out " how " it happened, because > frankly, I don't care. " > > > http://www.autismspeaks.org/community/ownwords/intheirownwords_fiona. php > > > > Here's the part that caught my eye: > > " We chose to be Fiona's mommy and daddy and not victims of autism. > And now, every day, I choose to be happy. " > > > This sounds like the Options Institute philosophy " Happiness is a > Choice " , which has rather nice ring to it as I think many people do > seem to have a vested interest in their own misery and victimhood. > But while happiness is a choice, justice is indispensable. The > perception of pain/fear serves to warn oneself of danger. To numb it > with willful happiness is cheaper than using pharmaceuticals or > getting drunk, but no less maladaptive. According to this Pollyana's > philosophy we ought to decriminalize hit and run accidents, too. Who > cares how your loved-one was injured? > > Lenny > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2007 Report Share Posted September 8, 2007 I agree that happiness is a choice, and a good healthy one, too. But it's not the whole enchilada -- which is the Pollyanna message of this parent. The " why me? " stuff, I believe, comes from those still in the grieving process. With grief, people march to the beat of their own drummer. Love is a much better self-motivator than anger over the long term. I can't imagine loving my injured son any different than I do now. But I still want justice so the damage doesn't continue in and around us, and to give my son a better chance at recovery and a better life. Lenny > >> > > >> > " I abandoned my quest to find out " how " it happened, because > > frankly, I don't care. " > >> > > > http://www.autismspeaks.org/community/ownwords/intheirownwords_fiona.php > >> > > > > > Here's the part that caught my eye: > > > > " We chose to be Fiona's mommy and daddy and not victims of autism. > > And now, every day, I choose to be happy. " > > > > This sounds like the Options Institute philosophy " Happiness is a > > Choice " , which has rather nice ring to it as I think many people do > > seem to have a vested interest in their own misery and victimhood. > > But while happiness is a choice, justice is indispensable. The > > perception of pain/fear serves to warn oneself of danger. To numb it > > with willful happiness is cheaper than using pharmaceuticals or > > getting drunk, but no less maladaptive. According to this Pollyana's > > philosophy we ought to decriminalize hit and run accidents, too. Who > > cares how your loved-one was injured? > > > > Lenny > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2007 Report Share Posted September 8, 2007 Now you know how untreated kids feel! >From: " krstagliano " <KRStagliano@...> >Reply-EOHarm >EOHarm >Subject: Re: Autism Speaks parent essay >Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2007 18:01:26 -0000 > >I just vomited a little into my mouth. I hate it when that happens.... > > > > > " I abandoned my quest to find out " how " it happened, >because frankly, I don't care. " > > > > >http://www.autismspeaks.org/community/ownwords/intheirownwords_fiona.p >hp > > > > Although I agree with the central message of this mother's essay - >- to love our children unconditionally -- the above statement gives >pause. That old axiom stating that those who do not remember the past >are doomed to repeat it... learning from mistakes. > > > > And it has the same polarizing attitude used by one of the >medical writers' conference speakers that I posted yesterday: >coded " good " vs. " bad. " If you search for the cause of your child's >disability, you cannot simultaneously love the child. A very strange >posit that many of us disprove daily. > > > > The message reinforced by Orenstein and his lot is that we >parents should abandon the millions of Google entries about vaccines >and autism, and remain within the confines of our emotions. Forget >about our kids' lab work, or ARI research, or FOIA documents showing >CDC corruption. All you need is love.. and maybe ABA. > > > > - Hokkanen > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join 's >user panel and lay it on us. > > > > _________________________________________________________________ Can you find the hidden words? Take a break and play Seekadoo! http://club.live.com/seekadoo.aspx?icid=seek_hotmailtextlink1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2007 Report Share Posted September 8, 2007 omg - I will never be happy about a pharmaceutial's greed in setting up my son to be their life-long customer (from birth) which I believe is what is going on. I am happy I happenstance met a mother at a dinner party who lit a fire under me when she told me if my son regressed, he wasn't born with autism which led to my quest of educating so many parents who, now, do not blindly sit back and let themselves be led down the pharmaceutical path to damage their children even more with toxic chemicals and psychotropic drugs. I am happy that my son dumped a TON of mercury (ethyl) this week. I wasn't happy to see the symptoms but in a way I was because I knew what that meant..... hopefully one less ounce of that toxin in him. And finally, I am happy that everyone in our house got a good night's sleep last night because it is over..... for now. That has to be the longest sentence in my pharmaceutical-bashing career.RoxMaurine Meleck <maurine_meleck@...> wrote: Happiness is watching my grandson progress. Happiness is seeing the criminals pay for their crimes. Happiness is a warm puppy(Peanuts). There are lots of kinds of happiness. maurinechristine <christinelighthousestudios (DOT) info> wrote: Happiness IS a choice- as with anything in life. I am happy with my son AND I’m doing everything I can to recover him. Why does it have to be one thing or the other? Why can’t it be both? Personally, I think if parents had more of a positive attitude and stopped asking “why me?”, they would be a lot happier. Blaming someone (be it yourself or some company) isn’t going to change the past. All you have is today. And right now my son is playing in the backyard with the neighborhood kids. The teenager is teaching him how to throw a football and I couldn’t be any happier. On 9/7/07 6:30 PM, "schaferatsprynet" <schafersprynet> wrote: >> "I abandoned my quest to find out "how" it happened, becausefrankly, I don't care." > http://www.autismspeaks.org/community/ownwords/intheirownwords_fiona.php> Here's the part that caught my eye:"We chose to be Fiona's mommy and daddy and not victims of autism.And now, every day, I choose to be happy."This sounds like the Options Institute philosophy "Happiness is aChoice", which has rather nice ring to it as I think many people doseem to have a vested interest in their own misery and victimhood. But while happiness is a choice, justice is indispensable. Theperception of pain/fear serves to warn oneself of danger. To numb itwith willful happiness is cheaper than using pharmaceuticals orgetting drunk, but no less maladaptive. According to this Pollyana'sphilosophy we ought to decriminalize hit and run accidents, too. Whocares how your loved-one was injured? Lenny Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Games. Shape in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2007 Report Share Posted September 8, 2007 Bravo to all the essays on happiness and denial. I do wonder about that lifelong customer issue too. It's just worked out so WELL for pharma that so many children are injured. > > omg - I will never be happy about a pharmaceutial's greed in setting up my son to be their life-long customer (from birth) which I believe is what is going on. I am happy I happenstance met a mother at a dinner party who lit a fire under me when she told me if my son regressed, he wasn't born with autism which led to my quest of educating so many parents who, now, do not blindly sit back and let themselves be led down the pharmaceutical path to damage their children even more with toxic chemicals and psychotropic drugs. I am happy that my son dumped a TON of mercury (ethyl) this week. I wasn't happy to see the symptoms but in a way I was because I knew what that meant..... hopefully one less ounce of that toxin in him. And finally, I am happy that everyone in our house got a good night's sleep last night because it is over..... for now. > > That has to be the longest sentence in my pharmaceutical-bashing career. > > Rox > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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