Guest guest Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 I support . I know the fact that we need someone on the “inside†of Autism Speaks. In fact we need an army in there to help change it. I don’t want that job. But I know some folks that are like minded need to be in there. The benefit to us as families affected by autism is someone working legislatively to help the rights is going to be fantastic. What brings to the table is doing politics and autism for years. Hopefully what she can bring to families are things that will help us TODAY. The research side is a different story. I don’t know what will happen on the research side of Autism Speaks. Not so excited so far and am in fact quite depressed with what they have done to date. It is beyond sad. Lets gets hope more hires like on the research side can come into play. Then we would be talking about forward thinking and good change. Maybe with this hire change will start? We will see. Keep bringing the input, keep calling AS to envoke change. Keep being loud. All my best A Jeffs mom From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of schaferatsprynet Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 10:34 AM EOHarm Subject: Re: From Hendrix Reynolds I have a different take on working with Autism Speaks. I share with Lujene her criticisms of AS to be sure -- I probably have one of the biggest mouths around about it, too. But I do not begrudge working for them. and Unlocking Autism and Cure Autism Now -- now absorbed into Autism Speaks -- have always had a close friendly relationship. So, this move doesn't surprise me. is a single mom raising two kids (one an autistic Spider Man) while trying at the same time to carry some of the world of autism on her shoulders. 's Unlocking Autism, through the work of Cale, manages the national telephone help lines for the Autism Research Institute. This activity directly works towards the recovery of children everyday, and by doing so spits in the political face of Autism Speaks. God bless them for that alone. Working with state advocacy issues, will come face to face with real state grass roots advocacy efforts, sometimes in opposition to Autism Speaks. These efforts include state legislation to remove mercury from vaccines and to raise money at the state level for real autism research and to get insurance companies to pay for medical damage done through environmental assaults, including from the effects of the toxins in vaccines. We will know soon enough the of Autism Speaks. Let the failure of the Combating Autism Act be a clear warning to Autism Speaks: any further legislative attempts to bury the mercury-vaccine-autism connection politically on a federal or state level will meet an even quicker still-birth than the CAA. once promoted the slogan " injecting mercury into children is stupid. " Let's amend: " anyone who tries to cover-up that injecting mercury into children is stupid, will be exposed " . I do not begrudge working with AS anymore than I begrudged Generation Rescue's Berry working for them. Personally, I think is too good for Autism Speaks and fellow list members know I have not been shy about criticizing 's politics in the past. I appreciate the risks to the community with the cynical forces at AS exploiting 's reputation with the autism community. Yet, I believe can potentially do more good for the community at AS, than she could selling advertising for local businesses. Lenny > > I thought this was an important message to pass on, so I asked Lujene if I could post and she gave her permission. > > > , > > While I personally wish you the best of luck and continued improvement for your son, I can not in good conscience say I am happy about your new position with Autism Speaks. In fact, it deeply saddens me. The saying, " another one bites the dust " immediately comes to mind. Autism Speaks is a plague on our community. They have intentionally divided our community and drained valuable resources/donations away from groups who are fighting for vaccine-injured children. By controlling the money and controlling the message, they can control the " autism " agenda, control parents, divert important research dollars away from the vaccine/mercury hypothesis and protect the CDC and pharmaceutical industry (perhaps you should do your homework on who Bernie Marcus really is and what he stands for). Bob and GE also come to the table with a hidden agenda and unclean hands. Bell and CAN's connections to Risperdal bear further scrutiny, also. But I suppose you won't do that, will you ? Because denial and delusion are wonderful defense mechanisms for justifying a decision but do not hold up well under the bright light of truth. > > While I sincerely appreciate all of your past advocacy work on behalf of vaccine-injured children, I am completely baffled and disappointed that you would join an organization that is so determined to undermine the vaccine/mercury hypothesis that the " founders " turned on their own daughter when she made public her beliefs about her son being vaccine injured! > > Justify it all you want, , if that is what you must do to soothe your conscience but don't expect me to condone it, much less applaud you for your decision. I personally view it as a betrayal. I'm sure this letter will not endear me to the community as you have always been considered the fair-haired darling of the advocacy community. So be it. And, quite frankly, I don't care if this letter or my stance is criticized. I would rather be honest than popular. If I have to be a hypocrite to be " liked " in this community then the price is too high. I still have to look at myself in the mirror every morning. More importantly, I have to look into the eyes of my son, Devon. How could I do that if I sold out, or insincerely congratulated someone else for selling out, to an organization that has been so detrimental to the best interests of our vaccine-injured children. The fact is, I couldn't. And I won't. > > I want the truth! I want these precious children and their beleagured parents to have answers! I want them to have hope; to have a future! I want these children to recover and lead happy, healthy lives. I want them to have justice! I can not and will not trade that for a paycheck. Maybe you can but I can't. > > It is said that everyone has their price. And I supposed that I do, too. Unfortunately for the Autism Speaks, the CDC, the FDA, the IOM and the pharmaceutical industry they can't count that high, nor do their bank accounts contain enough money to convince me to betray my son and those like him who regressed after vaccines. > > Sadly, they apparently found your price. For your sake, I hope it is worth it. > > Lujene > President > NoMercury > > President - Board of Trustees > The Alan D. , M.D. Memorial Research Foundation > From Hendrix Reynolds > > > If you received this email by error, click REPLY, add REMOVE and you will no longer receive Unlocking Autism posts. > > > Nearly five years ago, after being a stay at home mom for four years, I began a new career I never imagined I would have, doing something I never knew I would love. Since November of 2002, I have worked for the Baton Rouge Business Report as an account executive selling advertising, designing print ads and developing marketing campaigns for area businesses. > > We joke around the office that every day is a holiday at the Business Report and, in many ways, it has been for me. Every day, it gives me a great escape from the other areas of life that might make me want to pull my hair out. In addition to all of the knowledge I have gained about marketing, strategic positioning and sales, it has been an incredible personal experience that provided me with supplemental emotional and spiritual support pulling me out of the depths of an extremely difficult divorce, the sudden death of my youngest brother and one really, really bad hurricane. With my ex-husband’s family fading away and my own family living in Tennessee, they stepped up to the plate and gave me a new family here in Baton Rouge. > > As a single mother of two children, one with autism, I have struggled to balance out my life amongst all the things that are important to me †" preserving our faith, raising them to be great kids, providing a good home for them, re-establishing a career and serving the autism community. Ever since Katrina hit, the Baton Rouge economy has boomed - which has been fantastic, but it immediately changed our way of life here from a sleepy Southern pace and has taken its toll on my ability to be able to keep everything in balance. I very much miss being able to do the advocacy work that I once had time to do. Sometimes I can't even check my emails for a week or return phone calls. > > So earlier this month, I took a huge leap of faith. I resigned from my management position that I worked for years to achieve to take my passion, autism, head on once again and this time, full time. > > From every angle this was a difficult decision, but I know that it was the right one for me to make. This is my calling. Autism is my life's purpose. This is what God has planned for me to do and looking back through my life, I can see the foundation that has brought me to this place. This position allows me the opportunity to fuel my passion, serve this community, build for the future and provide for my kids at the same time. > > Beginning September 4th, I will embark on a new position with Autism Speaks as the Director of State Advocacy Relations. I will be working on issues such as health insurance coverage †" and ending discriminatory practices against coverage for people with autism, adult services and improved educational settings for all the people in the autism community that I have come to love so much over the last (near) decade. > > Unlocking Autism is still the same. Nothing has changed there. I will continue to volunteer as the president of the organization. We will continue to provide services for families and concentrate on guiding families of newly diagnosed children. We will continue to raise awareness. Our mission is still our mission. > > Nothing has changed with regard to what I believe happened to my son, Liam. However, regardless of causation, Liam, along with every other person with autism, still has issues and significant needs. In ten short years, Liam will officially be an adult. My biggest desire is to make the world a better place for him, his sister who will care for him after I am gone, the thousands of people ahead of him in life with autism and those that will come after him in a tidal wave as the numbers continue to rise. > > Autism Speaks has been able to call me out of the reserves and I am honored that they considered me for this new position. I look forward to serving you in this new capacity and dedicating my time to working on the issues that face our community today to make a better tomorrow. > > H. Reynolds > > > > ************************************** > Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 I am not holding my breath. I am not putting all my eggs and hope in one basket. I still advocate the way I have been advocating for years. I am just hoping that an army gets hired and change happens inside of Autism Speaks.  Do you think they are going away??? In the meantime other organizations are going to do their best to invoke change & research in a more real direction. What would be nice is if the largest private autism organization out there listens to folks beside the NAAR focused people who seem to be in charge. Old school thoughts and directions need to go away. New thinking and new research needs to move forward. Open suggestions for ideas on change and how this happens is welcome. That is what this board is for. All my best, From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of Hooker Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 12:14 PM EOHarm Subject: Re: From Hendrix Reynolds Don't hold your breath... > > > > I thought this was an important message to pass on, so I asked > Lujene if I could post and she gave her permission. > > > > > > , > > > > While I personally wish you the best of luck and continued > improvement for your son, I can not in good conscience say I am happy > about your new position with Autism Speaks. In fact, it deeply > saddens me. The saying, " another one bites the dust " immediately > comes to mind. Autism Speaks is a plague on our community. They have > intentionally divided our community and drained valuable > resources/donations away from groups who are fighting for > vaccine-injured children. By controlling the money and controlling > the message, they can control the " autism " agenda, control parents, > divert important research dollars away from the vaccine/mercury > hypothesis and protect the CDC and pharmaceutical industry (perhaps > you should do your homework on who Bernie Marcus really is and what he > stands for). Bob and GE also come to the table with a hidden > agenda and unclean hands. Bell and CAN's connections to > Risperdal bear further scrutiny, also. But I suppose you won't do > that, will you ? Because denial and delusion are wonderful > defense mechanisms for justifying a decision but do not hold up well > under the bright light of truth. > > > > While I sincerely appreciate all of your past advocacy work on > behalf of vaccine-injured children, I am completely baffled and > disappointed that you would join an organization that is so determined > to undermine the vaccine/mercury hypothesis that the " founders " turned > on their own daughter when she made public her beliefs about her son > being vaccine injured! > > > > Justify it all you want, , if that is what you must do to > soothe your conscience but don't expect me to condone it, much less > applaud you for your decision. I personally view it as a betrayal. > I'm sure this letter will not endear me to the community as you have > always been considered the fair-haired darling of the advocacy > community. So be it. And, quite frankly, I don't care if this letter > or my stance is criticized. I would rather be honest than popular. > If I have to be a hypocrite to be " liked " in this community then the > price is too high. I still have to look at myself in the mirror every > morning. More importantly, I have to look into the eyes of my son, > Devon. How could I do that if I sold out, or insincerely > congratulated someone else for selling out, to an organization that > has been so detrimental to the best interests of our vaccine- injured > children. The fact is, I couldn't. And I won't. > > > > I want the truth! I want these precious children and their > beleagured parents to have answers! I want them to have hope; to have > a future! I want these children to recover and lead happy, healthy > lives. I want them to have justice! I can not and will not trade > that for a paycheck. Maybe you can but I can't. > > > > It is said that everyone has their price. And I supposed that I do, > too. Unfortunately for the Autism Speaks, the CDC, the FDA, the IOM > and the pharmaceutical industry they can't count that high, nor do > their bank accounts contain enough money to convince me to betray my > son and those like him who regressed after vaccines. > > > > Sadly, they apparently found your price. For your sake, I hope it > is worth it. > > > > Lujene > > President > > NoMercury > > > > President - Board of Trustees > > The Alan D. , M.D. Memorial Research Foundation > > From Hendrix Reynolds > > > > > > If you received this email by error, click REPLY, add REMOVE and > you will no longer receive Unlocking Autism posts. > > > > > > Nearly five years ago, after being a stay at home mom for four > years, I began a new career I never imagined I would have, doing > something I never knew I would love. Since November of 2002, I have > worked for the Baton Rouge Business Report as an account executive > selling advertising, designing print ads and developing marketing > campaigns for area businesses. > > > > We joke around the office that every day is a holiday at the > Business Report and, in many ways, it has been for me. Every day, it > gives me a great escape from the other areas of life that might make > me want to pull my hair out. In addition to all of the knowledge I > have gained about marketing, strategic positioning and sales, it has > been an incredible personal experience that provided me with > supplemental emotional and spiritual support pulling me out of the > depths of an extremely difficult divorce, the sudden death of my > youngest brother and one really, really bad hurricane. With my > ex-husband’s family fading away and my own family living in > Tennessee, they stepped up to the plate and gave me a new family here > in Baton Rouge. > > > > As a single mother of two children, one with autism, I have > struggled to balance out my life amongst all the things that are > important to me †" preserving our faith, raising them to be great > kids, providing a good home for them, re-establishing a career and > serving the autism community. Ever since Katrina hit, the Baton Rouge > economy has boomed - which has been fantastic, but it immediately > changed our way of life here from a sleepy Southern pace and has taken > its toll on my ability to be able to keep everything in balance. I > very much miss being able to do the advocacy work that I once had time > to do. Sometimes I can't even check my emails for a week or return > phone calls. > > > > So earlier this month, I took a huge leap of faith. I resigned > from my management position that I worked for years to achieve to take > my passion, autism, head on once again and this time, full time. > > > > From every angle this was a difficult decision, but I know that it > was the right one for me to make. This is my calling. Autism is my > life's purpose. This is what God has planned for me to do and looking > back through my life, I can see the foundation that has brought me to > this place. This position allows me the opportunity to fuel my > passion, serve this community, build for the future and provide for my > kids at the same time. > > > > Beginning September 4th, I will embark on a new position with > Autism Speaks as the Director of State Advocacy Relations. I will be > working on issues such as health insurance coverage †" and ending > discriminatory practices against coverage for people with autism, > adult services and improved educational settings for all the people in > the autism community that I have come to love so much over the last > (near) decade. > > > > Unlocking Autism is still the same. Nothing has changed there. I > will continue to volunteer as the president of the organization. We > will continue to provide services for families and concentrate on > guiding families of newly diagnosed children. We will continue to > raise awareness. Our mission is still our mission. > > > > Nothing has changed with regard to what I believe happened to my > son, Liam. However, regardless of causation, Liam, along with every > other person with autism, still has issues and significant needs. In > ten short years, Liam will officially be an adult. My biggest desire > is to make the world a better place for him, his sister who will care > for him after I am gone, the thousands of people ahead of him in life > with autism and those that will come after him in a tidal wave as the > numbers continue to rise. > > > > Autism Speaks has been able to call me out of the reserves and I > am honored that they considered me for this new position. I look > forward to serving you in this new capacity and dedicating my time to > working on the issues that face our community today to make a better > tomorrow. > > > > H. Reynolds > > > > > > > > ************************************** > > Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at > http://discover. <http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour> aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 Did you just say Lujene needs a makeover to feel better about herself? That’s insulting. She’s been through a lot and entitled to her opinion. What does is her business. Who knows if she will make a real difference. Look at what has been able to get done. I’m guessing because does care and has a good heart that she will improve lives in her state, Louisiana. The National Group (AS) as a whole- now that’s a whole other story. Guess we’ll have to wait and see. In the meantime- let’s get working. On 8/30/07 4:15 PM, " Debi " <fightingautism@...> wrote: Yeah Lenny, the only difference is you can state what you oppose while Lugene has to call people names. That isn't about popularity, that's about showing just how able one is to actually affect change and deal with issues rather than jealosy of one's hair color or size of her butt (Lyn Redwood comes to mind). I would suggest this has less to do with Lugene wanting to be popular, maybe we just need to send her to some makeover place so she can start feeling better about herself. Debi, the fat dark-headed girl who doesn't feel the need to resort to name-calling just because I disagree with someone's advocacy efforts that differ from my own. - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 I agree. Lujene is one of the most intelligent, honest and centered persons I have ever met. And an incredible speaker and advocate for our kids. Apparently you don't know her or you would never have made that comment. And yes, just as is entitled to chose AS, Lujene is entitled to speak out against her choice. This is not about personal attacks. Maurinechristine <christine@...> wrote: Did you just say Lujene needs a makeover to feel better about herself?That’s insulting. She’s been through a lot and entitled to her opinion.What does is her business. Who knows if she will make a real difference. Look at what has been able to get done. I’m guessing because does care and has a good heart that she will improve lives in her state, Louisiana.The National Group (AS) as a whole- now that’s a whole other story. Guess we’ll have to wait and see. In the meantime- let’s get working.On 8/30/07 4:15 PM, "Debi" <fightingautism > wrote: Yeah Lenny, the only difference is you can state what you oppose whileLugene has to call people names. That isn't about popularity, that'sabout showing just how able one is to actually affect change and dealwith issues rather than jealosy of one's hair color or size of herbutt (Lyn Redwood comes to mind). I would suggest this has less to dowith Lugene wanting to be popular, maybe we just need to send her tosome makeover place so she can start feeling better about herself.Debi, the fat dark-headed girl who doesn't feel the need to resort toname-calling just because I disagree with someone's advocacy effortsthat differ from my own. - Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2007 Report Share Posted August 31, 2007 Debi, What does this mean? ===> size of her butt (Lyn Redwood comes to mind) Heidi Yeah Lenny, the only difference is you can state what you oppose whileLugene has to call people names. That isn't about popularity, that'sabout showing just how able one is to actually affect change and dealwith issues rather than jealosy of one's hair color or size of herbutt (Lyn Redwood comes to mind). I would suggest this has less to dowith Lugene wanting to be popular, maybe we just need to send her tosome makeover place so she can start feeling better about herself.Debi, the fat dark-headed girl who doesn't feel the need to resort toname-calling just because I disagree with someone's advocacy effortsthat differ from my own. - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2007 Report Share Posted August 31, 2007 , Your post shot through my heart. I know the day will come when I will have to answer that question...and when we will ALL have to answer it for an entire generation. I have to believe that all of us here, disagreeing with one another or not, truly want to answer them with justice and health...however we see fit to obtain it. I can live with the fact that I didn't know any better when I had my baby vaccinated. I should have investigated, but I didn't. I accept my responsibility, but I forgive myself for trusting the people I allowed to care for her. What I can't live with is now knowing that it continues to happen. That's the dispair that hits me over and over again...thinking about some little baby, right now as I write this, getting a flu shot, or the Hep B, or whatever. That's what keeps me awake at night. That's the anger I try to manage on a daily basis, not always very successfully. Most days, I hate that I know. Ignorance really is bliss. When you know about it you can't help but see it everywhere. It permeates everything around you. Try as I might, I cannot remove my "thimerosal glasses". They are a permanent fixture on my face that make it very hard to see clearly sometimes...or I should say, rather too clearly. The injustice is overwhelming, the sadness profound. But when we know better, we do better. Our children deserve no less. If I can live my life so that my answer to my daughter when she asks me, "Mom, how did you let this happen to me?" can be "Because I didn't know, but when I did, I did everything I could to make sure it didn't happen to anyone else", I will die at least with some peace. -------------- Original message -------------- From: "djberle" <dberle@...> ahhhh...this is the EOH I know and love...A friend said to me this morning that the autism community is a mere microcosm of ALL of society. Let's keep fighting. We all want the same result. how we each do it is VASTLY differnt.thanks for the kind words.Bax asked me just this AM how I could LET him be poisioned. "mommy...you know autism is poison. How could you let that happen to me?"Good question and one I'll beat myself up everyday into infinity...I said I didnt KNOW it was poison at the time and I THOUGHT i was doing the right thing to PREVENT him from being poisioned and getting sick.He patted me on the back, sensing my distress and said,"Its ok mommy. we all make mistakes. I know you love me."cool kid. in spite of his mom.Yours in the battle>> Debi, > > Someone forwarded your EOH comments to me. Since I am no longer a member of the EOH group I am responding to you privately but feel free to post my remarks on EOH if you wish. I have nothing to hide. > > I did not call names. I criticized her decision. Big difference. > > Perhaps you did not closely read my comments. I did not insult or 'call her names' per se. I took exception to her attempt to justify doing a 180 degree turn in advocacy for mercury-poisoned children and I citied her decision to go to work for an organization that has caused many hardships and dissention in our community. I did not attack her personally. I said I felt betrayed by her decision. Which I do. > > I was not referring to the color of 's hair, although it is lovely. According to Webster's dictionary the term 'fair-haired' has two meanin gs. The obvious one, which is an adjective, meaning to have blond hair. The second is a colloquialism meaning favorite. It should have been obvious from the context in which I used the term 'fair-haired' that I was using it in the informal or colloquial sense not in reference to her hair color. > > If you are comfortable with your hair color and weight than no one else's opinion really matters. Right? Regarding your obscure remark or reference to the size of one's butt, I have to say that I have no idea what you are talking about. At no point in my email did I discuss mine or anyone else's posterior. **sidebar notation** But for your information, mine is significantly smaller these days, thankyouverymuch. Grief and stress have a way of killing one's appetite. While it is a marvelous diet aid, I don't recommend it as the negatives far outweigh the positives (pardon the pun). > > Therefore, why you would brin g Lyn Redwood into this is beyond me. While I may have strongly disagreed with some actions of Lyn/SafeMinds in the past (such as the CAA) I personally think she is a beautiful, intelligent woman and a wonderful, caring mother. Alan, Devon and I all enjoyed the numerous times we visited with Lyn, her husband, Tommy and their son, Will. They are gracious, wonderful people that shared many commonalities with Alan and I. Alan and Tommy both worked as Emergency Physicians with the same ER Physician Group in Atlanta. Small world, huh? In fact, the only thing that my son, Devon, requested for his birthday last year was a 'spend the night' birthday party with Will. Lyn and I worked together to make that happen. The boys had a marvelous time. Devon, to this day, calls Will his 'forever friend' so while I may disagree on some matters with Lyn there can be no argument that both of us want our boys to be happy and healthy, enjoying and e xperiencing all the things that little boys should have the opportunity to enjoy. She was very supportive and understanding during Alan's illness and subsequent death. I will forever be grateful for her many kindnesses during that difficult time. That does not mean we have or will always agree on every issue (CAA comes to mind). So let's leave Lyn out of this conversation. Shall we? > > And yes, I did allude to 'selling out' as quite clearly by her own attempts to justify her decision, she must have known that many in our community would feel that she did indeed 'sellout' when she accepted a paying position working for an organization that uses every resource at its disposal to kill the vaccine-injured/mercury hypothesis. When someone completely reverses their stance on a matter in exchange for money and/or a paycheck (e.g. going from an organization that developed the "Injecting Mercury Is Stupid" c ampaign to then go to work for a organization that fights against that campaign vehemently) it is often felt to be a betrayal and referred to as "selling out." Don't believe me? Webster's dictionary agrees and defines sellout as a colloquialism meaning betrayal. Look it up. > > Additionally, I have no desire to go get a 'make over' even if Arden personally held open the 'Red Door' herself. Thanks to God and my Irish grandmother, I have naturally red-hair and green-eyes which I am very comfortable with and quite proud of, thus I have no desire to change. Thanks anyway. And, by the way, I have no need to 'feel better' about myself because I am already secure in who I am and what I stand for. Standing firm for one's beliefs is not usually considered a character flaw. Additionally, most people would not consider being honest and forthright as character flaws either. > > Granted, I will admit that I do not have a bright future as a diplomat, however, there is something to be said for consistency, loyalty, steadfastness, honesty and integrity. I would choose to associate or align myself with any organization or group of people that value those qualities over being a politically-correct, suck-up to anyone with a position higher than yours in order to climb the ladder diplomat any day of the week. This community has more than its fair share of people being so diplomatic and politically correct that their message is so watered-down, so diluted by the time they actually get around to taking a stand that few can ascertain what their position is exactly. Often, it seems some will change their position or their mind with the wind or with the opinion of the crowd. I have never been one to depend on a straw poll in order to make a decision. I didn't do it as an elected official and I don't do it with this issue. I investigate, e valuate and let the facts steer my course; not conjecture or popular opinion. I've done my homework, investigated the players and made my evaluation of the situation regarding AS, CAN, NAAR and the various related players. Have you? Has ? I doubt it. Because if you knew what I know then it is highly unlikely that anyone would consider it 'good news' that a parent of a vaccine-injured/mercury poisoned child would reverse and/or deny/ignore their previously long-held position that "Injecting Mercury Is Stupid" to take money to assist the efforts of Autism Speaks/NAAR/CAN to obfuscate the truth. According to Webster's dictionary obfuscate is defined as: 1. To make so confused or opaque as to be difficult to perceive or understand 2. To render indistinct or dim; darken. > > When history writes the final chapter of the "autism" debacle and the truth finally comes out (it took more than 60 years for the tr uth to come out about lead, tobacco and asbestos) then let's see who is vindicated for refusing to back down from the "injecting mercury is stupid" mantra. > > As far as my being ineffective, as I recall Missouri was the first state to introduce legislation banning mercury in vaccines for certain populations. We were the third state to pass the law. Iowa was first to pass a law banning mercury in vaccines for certain populations (and yes, I lobbied there and assisted parents in lobbying) and California was second (and yes, I also lobbied there at my own expense). In fact, NoMercury has assisted parents and legislators in every state that has introduced and passed legislation to ban mercury in vaccines. As I recall, Louisiana does not have such a law. Isn't the State Capitol for Louisiana in Baton Rogue? My own state capitol is more than 4 1/2 hours away. Hmmmm. So who is ineffective in state advocacy issues and w ho has a proven track record. Gee, let me think about that for a minute. > > Finally, regarding your closing remarks...if your advocacy efforts are different than mine (I advocate to ban mercury in medicine, particularly in vaccines) then exactly what are you advocating for? Do you not believe that mercury has caused harm? Do you disagree with Kirby's book, Evidence of Harm outlining the strong likelihood that mercury in vaccines is linked to autism? Isn't that the purpose of the EOH list? What do you stand for Debi if not that vaccine-injured/mercury-poisoned children deserve truth, justice and happy, healthy futures? This is not the first time that you have ripped me apart on the EOH list so apparently the only thing that you seem to feel passionate about is your hatred of me? Gee, you need a life...or a make-over. ;-) > > Lujene > > The green-eyed, red-head that advocates t hat mercury in medicine is dangerous. (neener, neener, neener) ;-) > > PS - Anyone would be hard pressed to say that NoMercury or I have profited from this situation. We do not solicit or accept donations. We do not make, sell, promote or endorse any products or services. We have not written a book nor sold any movie rights. Zip, Zilch, Nada. And like , I am now a single mother. The difference, she gets child support and her ex-husband is still alive so let's not use the 'poor single mother has to do anything to support her children excuse' to justify going to work for Autism Speaks, which is clearly an enemy to vaccine-injured/mercury-poisoned children. Otherwise, why don't we all put our applications in with the FDA, CDC, Eli Lilly, Wyeth, Merck, PhaRMA, et al because I hear the money is good if you don't mind selling your soul to the devil. After all, we gotta eat and pay bills, right? (tongue firmly i n cheek) ;-)> > Re: From Hendrix Reynolds > > Posted by: "Debi" fightingautism@... fightingautism > > Thu Aug 30, 2007 1:16 pm (PST) > > Yeah Lenny, the only difference is you can state what you oppose while> Lugene has to call people names. That isn't about popularity, that's> about showing just how able one is to actually affect change and deal> with issues rather than jealousy of one's hair color or size of her> butt (Lyn Redwood comes to mind). I would suggest this has less to do> with Lugene wanting to be popular, maybe we just need to send her to> some makeover place so she can start feeling better about herself.> > Debi, the fat dark-headed girl who doesn't feel the need to resort to> name-calling just because I disagree with someone's advocacy efforts> that differ from my own.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2007 Report Share Posted September 1, 2007 STOP MAKING ME CRY JULIA!!!!!! On 8/31/07 12:54 PM, " djberle " <dberle@...> wrote: I said I didnt KNOW it was poison at the time and I THOUGHT i was doing the right thing to PREVENT him from being poisioned and getting sick. He patted me on the back, sensing my distress and said, " Its ok mommy. we all make mistakes. I know you love me. " cool kid. in spite of his mom. Yours in the battle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2007 Report Share Posted September 1, 2007 I go through the same thing with 's younger 7 year old brothr who wants to know why the government would put mercury in vaccines when it is bad and made his brother autistic. I only hope someday will get to the point where he can understand to be pissed off-and I mean pissed off at what was done to him. Maurinechristine <christine@...> wrote: STOP MAKING ME CRY JULIA!!!!!!On 8/31/07 12:54 PM, "djberle" <dberlesbcglobal (DOT) net> wrote: I said I didnt KNOW it was poison at the time and I THOUGHT i was doing the right thing to PREVENT him from being poisioned and getting sick.He patted me on the back, sensing my distress and said,"Its ok mommy. we all make mistakes. I know you love me."cool kid. in spite of his mom.Yours in the battle Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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