Re: American Kids Being Drugged To Death

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I think we need a vaccine to protect against the harmful side effects

of each of these medications.

Marty

> Posted by: " schaferatsprynet " schafer@... schaferatsprynet

> Date: Wed Aug 22, 2007 11:06 pm ((PDT))

>

>http://www.lawyersandsettlements.com/articles/01315/drugging-kids.html

>

>

>Excerpt:

>

>FDA records also show reports of 25 deaths in children and adults

>between 1999 and 2003, and 54 cases of serious cardiovascular

>problems, including stokes, heart attacks, hypertension, palpitations

>and arrhythmia. But according to Dr Baughman, in addition to the

>deaths cited by the FDA, the MedWatch database also contains 186 more

>deaths of persons using ADHD drugs for the period between 1990 and 2000.

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Vaccines for adverse psych drug effects? Then they'd be drawing

closed the circle which they started.

I don't know why that idea kind of reminds me of the scene in Catch

22 when Yosarian watches two army nurses switching the urine

catheter tube and IV drip tube in a guy with a full body cast.

>

> I think we need a vaccine to protect against the harmful side

effects

> of each of these medications.

>

> Marty

>

> > Posted by: " schaferatsprynet " schafer@... schaferatsprynet

> > Date: Wed Aug 22, 2007 11:06 pm ((PDT))

> >

> >http://www.lawyersandsettlements.com/articles/01315/drugging-

kids.html

> >

> >

> >Excerpt:

> >

> >FDA records also show reports of 25 deaths in children and adults

> >between 1999 and 2003, and 54 cases of serious cardiovascular

> >problems, including stokes, heart attacks, hypertension,

palpitations

> >and arrhythmia. But according to Dr Baughman, in addition to the

> >deaths cited by the FDA, the MedWatch database also contains 186

more

> >deaths of persons using ADHD drugs for the period between 1990

and 2000.

>

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I nearly spit out my drink reading this post!

>

> Vaccines for adverse psych drug effects? Then they'd be drawing

> closed the circle which they started.

>

> I don't know why that idea kind of reminds me of the scene in Catch

> 22 when Yosarian watches two army nurses switching the urine

> catheter tube and IV drip tube in a guy with a full body cast.

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

>

> >

> > Vaccines for adverse psych drug effects? Then they'd be drawing

> > closed the circle which they started.

The same metaphor of the closed circle popped into my head the other

day, when I was thinking about something I'd heard on the radio. I was

listening to the Medved show (I know, I know, I should know

better than to listen to the radio or watch the television, but

sometimes I just like the noise when the kids are in school) and he

was discussing a recent program in, I think, Seattle, in which people

were being discouraged from giving money to the homeless in the city.

" It doesn't help them " , people were being told. Medved was saying that

if you give an alcoholic money to buy a beer, this hurts him rather

than helps him. And I tried to call the show to say that I found it

rather interesting that he was so disturbed by the ill effects someone

might experience due to his or her alcohol addiction, but didn't have

anything at all to say about the ill effects that might be experienced

by someone due to an addiction to prescription pain medications. (Rush

came to mind.) I was going to ask him if this might have something to

do with the commercials that I was hearing on his program, in between

his rants about how it's better to not give money to the homeless.

(There was a commercial for Unisom, and one for some hair restoration

drug, and one for University Hospitals in the few minutes I was

listening.)

While I was listening and trying to call in so that I could ask him

this, another caller was talking about the fact that so many of the

homeless have mental illnesses. " It's a shame " , he was saying (I'm

paraphrasing), " these people really don't want to live like this " (how

does he know what they want? I dunno), and " so many of these people

could be helped by some of the latest drugs, but they aren't being

helped " . And Medved seemed to think that it was a shame that there

wasn't some way to force the homeless into mandated medication. It

scared the bejeebers out of me, and believe me it takes a LOT to scare

the bejeebers out of me these days.

Then, yesterday afternoon I was at Cleveland State University with my

daughter , who starts this fall. The university is downtown, and

while we were there we ran into some people on the street corner

handing out flyers. The flyers said " please don't give money to the

homeless " .

I was talking about all of this with my husband, and I told him that I

wondered who was paying for these people to be out on the sidewalk

distributing flyers to passerbys informing them not give money to the

homeless. I thought maybe it was tax money being used for that

purpose, which would really have gotten me peeved. He said " I think it

might be the local businesses. They get together and they raise the

money, maybe, to do this. Because it's bad for business, having the

homeless in front of your doors and often harassing people.

At first, when I considered this possibility, I thought that if this

was what was happening it wouldn't really disturb me very much. After

all why shouldn't business owners have the right to organize and pay

people, if they want to, to distribute flyers on public sidewalks.

But then I started wondering where the money that those business

owners might be using might be coming from. From the legitimate

profits of their businesses?

The thing that really bothers me is this. It is my understanding that

in recent years charities have been receiving money from the

government in order to run their organizations. Which are there,

presumably, to help people.

But suppose that an organization felt that the best way they could

help the homeless was by seeing that they were given the `proper'

medication? And then let's suppose that they use the money they have

raised (or been granted by the government) to pay for the purchase and

administration of those drugs.

What we would then have is a Congress taking huge sums of money from

Pharma lobbyists. And we'd have a Congress handing out money to

charity organizations, some of which might be purchasing drugs from

the same companies that have poured huge amounts of money into

lobbying Congress. Which would make, metaphorically speaking, a nice

neat tidy and closed circle.

I'm not saying this is happening. But if it were, call me paranoid,

but I could see a situation like this getting rather ugly. I could

envision some extremely obscene civil rights violations ( as bad as

the Vaccine Court that parents of vaccine damaged children are forced

to endure, or worse) being perpetrated on a lot of people who might be

harmless, but annoying and inconvenient.

Robin Nemeth

[Guest guest]

If you like that bit from the film then you'd love Milo's syndicate

and the chocolate covered cotton balls.

> >

> > Vaccines for adverse psych drug effects? Then they'd be drawing

> > closed the circle which they started.

> >

> > I don't know why that idea kind of reminds me of the scene in

Catch

> > 22 when Yosarian watches two army nurses switching the urine

> > catheter tube and IV drip tube in a guy with a full body cast.

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

manslaughter? isn't that what malpractice insurance is for? to pay everyone

off so they can keep on keeping on?

blessingsx10@... wrote: American Kids Being Drugged To Death

New Pringle article.

_http://www.lawyersandsettlements.com/articles/01315/drugging-kids.html_

(http://www.lawyersandsettlements.com/articles/01315/drugging-kids.html)

Excerpt:

FDA records also show reports of 25 deaths in children and adults

between 1999 and 2003, and 54 cases of serious cardiovascular

problems, including stokes, heart attacks, hypertension, palpitations

and arrhythmia. But according to Dr Baughman, in addition to the

deaths cited by the FDA, the MedWatch database also contains 186 more

deaths of persons using ADHD drugs for the period between 1990 and 2000.

************

Gee, I wonder how many of those prescribing doctors were charged with

manslaughter?

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manslaughter? isn't that what malpractice insurance is for? to pay everyone

off so they can keep on keeping on?

blessingsx10@... wrote: American Kids Being Drugged To Death

New Pringle article.

_http://www.lawyersandsettlements.com/articles/01315/drugging-kids.html_

(http://www.lawyersandsettlements.com/articles/01315/drugging-kids.html)

Excerpt:

FDA records also show reports of 25 deaths in children and adults

between 1999 and 2003, and 54 cases of serious cardiovascular

problems, including stokes, heart attacks, hypertension, palpitations

and arrhythmia. But according to Dr Baughman, in addition to the

deaths cited by the FDA, the MedWatch database also contains 186 more

deaths of persons using ADHD drugs for the period between 1990 and 2000.

************

Gee, I wonder how many of those prescribing doctors were charged with

manslaughter?

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manslaughter? isn't that what malpractice insurance is for? to pay everyone

off so they can keep on keeping on?

blessingsx10@... wrote: American Kids Being Drugged To Death

New Pringle article.

_http://www.lawyersandsettlements.com/articles/01315/drugging-kids.html_

(http://www.lawyersandsettlements.com/articles/01315/drugging-kids.html)

Excerpt:

FDA records also show reports of 25 deaths in children and adults

between 1999 and 2003, and 54 cases of serious cardiovascular

problems, including stokes, heart attacks, hypertension, palpitations

and arrhythmia. But according to Dr Baughman, in addition to the

deaths cited by the FDA, the MedWatch database also contains 186 more

deaths of persons using ADHD drugs for the period between 1990 and 2000.

************

Gee, I wonder how many of those prescribing doctors were charged with

manslaughter?

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I didn't realize that amphetamines were viral agents.

How about in instead we follow 's directive and

just say " no " ?

Re: American Kids Being Drugged To Death

Posted by: " Marty Landman " marty@...

marty12494

Thu Aug 23, 2007 7:39 am (PST)

I think we need a vaccine to protect against the

harmful side effects

of each of these medications.

Marty

> Posted by: " schaferatsprynet " schafersprynet (DOT) com

schaferatsprynet

> Date: Wed Aug 22, 2007 11:06 pm ((PDT))

>

>http://www.lawyersa ndsettlements. com/articles/

01315/drugging- kids.html

>

>

>Excerpt:

>

>FDA records also show reports of 25 deaths in

children and adults

>between 1999 and 2003, and 54 cases of serious

cardiovascular

>problems, including stokes, heart attacks,

hypertension, palpitations

>and arrhythmia. But according to Dr Baughman, in

addition to the

>deaths cited by the FDA, the MedWatch database also

contains 186 more

>deaths of persons using ADHD drugs for the period

between 1990 and 2000.

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