Guest guest Posted July 19, 2007 Report Share Posted July 19, 2007 No, it's a first generation relative of that little old man with a crock of gold .schaferatsprynet <schafer@...> wrote: > Lupron just sounds like a physics particle.Lupron is a cooking garment worn by a wacky French chef. Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2007 Report Share Posted July 19, 2007 I think it's unfair to call it "Jimmy Leg" unless your name is Jimmy. If Lenny had it-it should be called Lenny Leg-for kim "Kimmy Leg." glad I don't have it because maurine Leg sounds stupid. Mkrstagliano <KRStagliano@...> wrote: I dated a guy with a restless eye. Oh, wait, that was a wandering eye. There's a drug for that too. It's called salt peter. Too young to know what I'm talking about. Ask your Mom. Or Lenny. ;)K>> I can imagine some drug company researcher watching that episode of > Seinfeld and saying "Zounds!" and a disease was born. At least the > article mentions the association to mineral deficiency, though the > link is immediately discounted. I know that one of the drugs they're > proposing to "treat" the "genetic disorder", Cogentin, can cause > heat stroke and bowl blockage. A Michigen FOIA request found that > most "movement disorder" drugs- antidyskinetics- are prescribed for > drug-induced movement disorders. > When you think about the numbers of people of all ages getting the > flu vax and possibly suffering from associated malabsorbtion and > mineral derrangement and then consider the exponential increase in > the use of psychiatric drugs which cause movement disorders among > adults and children, mainstream science has served itself up a basis > for a "disease model". The Cat In The Hat with cleaning remedies for > the pink spot may have struck again. > > Studies: Restless legs syndrome is real By MIKE STOBBE, AP Medical > Writer > 37 minutes ago> > ATLANTA - Scientists have linked certain genes to restless legs > syndrome, suggesting the twitching condition described as "jimmy > legs" in a "Seinfeld" episode is biologically based and not an > imaginary disorder. > > New studies published this week in two top medical journals are > being called the first to identify specific genes responsible for > restless legs syndrome symptoms. Research in the New England Journal > of Medicine linked a common gene variation to nighttime leg-> twitching involving people in Iceland and the United States. A > second study in Nature Genetics identified the same gene variation > and two others in Germans and Canadians with restless legs syndrome.> > "This discovery demonstrates the power of genetics not only for > uncovering the biological causes of disease, but also for defining > diseases such as RLS and establishing them as medical conditions," > said Dr. Kari Stefansson, in a prepared statement.> > Stefansson is a prominent Icelandic scientist who co-authored the > New England Journal study.> > Restless legs syndrome is a neurological condition characterized by > an irresistible urge to move the legs. Sufferers say it often hits > at night, preventing them from sleeping.> > "It feels like something crawling inside your legs, biting on you," > said Betty Shaw, a 68-year-old florist in Covington, Ga., who was > diagnosed with it. So was her 43-year-old daughter.> > The condition gained cultural status through an oft-quoted episode > of the sitcom "Seinfeld," in which the character Kramer is disturbed > that his girlfriend has "the jimmy legs" and kicks in bed.> > It's commonly treated with two government-approved drugs, including > the heavily advertised Requip, made by GlaxoKline PLC. Sales of > Requip hit about $500 million last year. Shaw takes the aqua-colored > pill and says it's the only thing that's helped her.> > The first study looked at blood samples from more than 1,000 > Icelanders and Americans, comparing the DNA of leg twitchers to the > DNA of people without the symptom. Scientists found a certain > variation in the human genome that, they say, probably accounts for > 50 percent of restless legs cases.> > They also found that the variation was associated with lower iron > levels, echoing — but not explaining — a relationship noted in > earlier research.> > The second study compared the DNA of 400 people with a family > history of the syndrome with the DNA of 1,600 who did not. It found > variations in three areas of the genome that each were responsible > for a 50 percent increase in the risk for the syndrome.> > More research is needed to develop a full explanation of the causes > of restless legs syndrome. The New England Journal study indicates > as many as 65 percent of adults carry the gene variation that can > lead to symptoms, said Dr. Rye, an Emory University > neurologist who was another co-author.> > "People making the argument that this can't be very common — that's > just gone," said Rye, who himself has restless legs.> > Others disagreed.> > The syndrome is diagnosed through symptoms like periodic limb > movements in sleep, but lots of people may have limb movements > without having the condition, noted Dr. Woloshin, a Dartmouth > Medical School researcher who has argued the diagnosis is overhyped.> > He argues that the best evidence puts the U.S. prevalence of > restless legs at under 3 percent, less than common estimates of 10 > percent.> > The new research doesn't pin down what the condition is, who has it, > or what medication is needed, he wrote in an e-mail.> > ___ > > The New England Journal of Medicine: http://nejm.org/> Be a better Heartthrob. 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Guest guest Posted July 19, 2007 Report Share Posted July 19, 2007 All fun aside, restless leg syndrome can also result from being injected with squalene-containing vaccines, not that that is necessarily a problem here (but it may have been in France with some unsuspecting elderly people). More to follow, as soon as I find my link to the article, AasaMaurine Meleck <maurine_meleck@...> wrote: I think it's unfair to call it "Jimmy Leg" unless your name is Jimmy. If Lenny had it-it should be called Lenny Leg-for kim "Kimmy Leg." glad I don't have it because maurine Leg sounds stupid. Mkrstagliano <KRStaglianocharter (DOT) net> wrote: I dated a guy with a restless eye. Oh, wait, that was a wandering eye. There's a drug for that too. It's called salt peter. Too young to know what I'm talking about. Ask your Mom. Or Lenny. ;)K>> I can imagine some drug company researcher watching that episode of > Seinfeld and saying "Zounds!" and a disease was born. At least the > article mentions the association to mineral deficiency, though the > link is immediately discounted. I know that one of the drugs they're > proposing to "treat" the "genetic disorder", Cogentin, can cause > heat stroke and bowl blockage. A Michigen FOIA request found that > most "movement disorder" drugs- antidyskinetics- are prescribed for > drug-induced movement disorders. > When you think about the numbers of people of all ages getting the > flu vax and possibly suffering from associated malabsorbtion and > mineral derrangement and then consider the exponential increase in > the use of psychiatric drugs which cause movement disorders among > adults and children, mainstream science has served itself up a basis > for a "disease model". The Cat In The Hat with cleaning remedies for > the pink spot may have struck again. > > Studies: Restless legs syndrome is real By MIKE STOBBE, AP Medical > Writer > 37 minutes ago> > ATLANTA - Scientists have linked certain genes to restless legs > syndrome, suggesting the twitching condition described as "jimmy > legs" in a "Seinfeld" episode is biologically based and not an > imaginary disorder. > > New studies published this week in two top medical journals are > being called the first to identify specific genes responsible for > restless legs syndrome symptoms. Research in the New England Journal > of Medicine linked a common gene variation to nighttime leg-> twitching involving people in Iceland and the United States. A > second study in Nature Genetics identified the same gene variation > and two others in Germans and Canadians with restless legs syndrome.> > "This discovery demonstrates the power of genetics not only for > uncovering the biological causes of disease, but also for defining > diseases such as RLS and establishing them as medical conditions," > said Dr. Kari Stefansson, in a prepared statement.> > Stefansson is a prominent Icelandic scientist who co-authored the > New England Journal study.> > Restless legs syndrome is a neurological condition characterized by > an irresistible urge to move the legs. Sufferers say it often hits > at night, preventing them from sleeping.> > "It feels like something crawling inside your legs, biting on you," > said Betty Shaw, a 68-year-old florist in Covington, Ga., who was > diagnosed with it. So was her 43-year-old daughter.> > The condition gained cultural status through an oft-quoted episode > of the sitcom "Seinfeld," in which the character Kramer is disturbed > that his girlfriend has "the jimmy legs" and kicks in bed.> > It's commonly treated with two government-approved drugs, including > the heavily advertised Requip, made by GlaxoKline PLC. Sales of > Requip hit about $500 million last year. Shaw takes the aqua-colored > pill and says it's the only thing that's helped her.> > The first study looked at blood samples from more than 1,000 > Icelanders and Americans, comparing the DNA of leg twitchers to the > DNA of people without the symptom. Scientists found a certain > variation in the human genome that, they say, probably accounts for > 50 percent of restless legs cases.> > They also found that the variation was associated with lower iron > levels, echoing — but not explaining — a relationship noted in > earlier research.> > The second study compared the DNA of 400 people with a family > history of the syndrome with the DNA of 1,600 who did not. It found > variations in three areas of the genome that each were responsible > for a 50 percent increase in the risk for the syndrome.> > More research is needed to develop a full explanation of the causes > of restless legs syndrome. The New England Journal study indicates > as many as 65 percent of adults carry the gene variation that can > lead to symptoms, said Dr. Rye, an Emory University > neurologist who was another co-author.> > "People making the argument that this can't be very common — that's > just gone," said Rye, who himself has restless legs.> > Others disagreed.> > The syndrome is diagnosed through symptoms like periodic limb > movements in sleep, but lots of people may have limb movements > without having the condition, noted Dr. Woloshin, a Dartmouth > Medical School researcher who has argued the diagnosis is overhyped.> > He argues that the best evidence puts the U.S. prevalence of > restless legs at under 3 percent, less than common estimates of 10 > percent.> > The new research doesn't pin down what the condition is, who has it, > or what medication is needed, he wrote in an e-mail.> > ___ > > The New England Journal of Medicine: http://nejm.org/> Be a better Heartthrob. 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Guest guest Posted July 19, 2007 Report Share Posted July 19, 2007 Here it is: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?cmd=Retrieve & db=pubmed & dopt=Abstract & list_uids=15599987 What are they thinking? Squalene and squalane do not belong in vaccines!!Aasa <penas7ar@...> wrote: All fun aside, restless leg syndrome can also result from being injected with squalene-containing vaccines, not that that is necessarily a problem here (but it may have been in France with some unsuspecting elderly people). More to follow, as soon as I find my link to the article, AasaMaurine Meleck <maurine_meleck > wrote: I think it's unfair to call it "Jimmy Leg" unless your name is Jimmy. If Lenny had it-it should be called Lenny Leg-for kim "Kimmy Leg." glad I don't have it because maurine Leg sounds stupid. Mkrstagliano <KRStaglianocharter (DOT) net> wrote: I dated a guy with a restless eye. Oh, wait, that was a wandering eye. There's a drug for that too. It's called salt peter. Too young to know what I'm talking about. Ask your Mom. Or Lenny. ;)K>> I can imagine some drug company researcher watching that episode of > Seinfeld and saying "Zounds!" and a disease was born. At least the > article mentions the association to mineral deficiency, though the > link is immediately discounted. I know that one of the drugs they're > proposing to "treat" the "genetic disorder", Cogentin, can cause > heat stroke and bowl blockage. A Michigen FOIA request found that > most "movement disorder" drugs- antidyskinetics- are prescribed for > drug-induced movement disorders. > When you think about the numbers of people of all ages getting the > flu vax and possibly suffering from associated malabsorbtion and > mineral derrangement and then consider the exponential increase in > the use of psychiatric drugs which cause movement disorders among > adults and children, mainstream science has served itself up a basis > for a "disease model". The Cat In The Hat with cleaning remedies for > the pink spot may have struck again. > > Studies: Restless legs syndrome is real By MIKE STOBBE, AP Medical > Writer > 37 minutes ago> > ATLANTA - Scientists have linked certain genes to restless legs > syndrome, suggesting the twitching condition described as "jimmy > legs" in a "Seinfeld" episode is biologically based and not an > imaginary disorder. > > New studies published this week in two top medical journals are > being called the first to identify specific genes responsible for > restless legs syndrome symptoms. Research in the New England Journal > of Medicine linked a common gene variation to nighttime leg-> twitching involving people in Iceland and the United States. A > second study in Nature Genetics identified the same gene variation > and two others in Germans and Canadians with restless legs syndrome.> > "This discovery demonstrates the power of genetics not only for > uncovering the biological causes of disease, but also for defining > diseases such as RLS and establishing them as medical conditions," > said Dr. Kari Stefansson, in a prepared statement.> > Stefansson is a prominent Icelandic scientist who co-authored the > New England Journal study.> > Restless legs syndrome is a neurological condition characterized by > an irresistible urge to move the legs. Sufferers say it often hits > at night, preventing them from sleeping.> > "It feels like something crawling inside your legs, biting on you," > said Betty Shaw, a 68-year-old florist in Covington, Ga., who was > diagnosed with it. So was her 43-year-old daughter.> > The condition gained cultural status through an oft-quoted episode > of the sitcom "Seinfeld," in which the character Kramer is disturbed > that his girlfriend has "the jimmy legs" and kicks in bed.> > It's commonly treated with two government-approved drugs, including > the heavily advertised Requip, made by GlaxoKline PLC. Sales of > Requip hit about $500 million last year. Shaw takes the aqua-colored > pill and says it's the only thing that's helped her.> > The first study looked at blood samples from more than 1,000 > Icelanders and Americans, comparing the DNA of leg twitchers to the > DNA of people without the symptom. Scientists found a certain > variation in the human genome that, they say, probably accounts for > 50 percent of restless legs cases.> > They also found that the variation was associated with lower iron > levels, echoing — but not explaining — a relationship noted in > earlier research.> > The second study compared the DNA of 400 people with a family > history of the syndrome with the DNA of 1,600 who did not. It found > variations in three areas of the genome that each were responsible > for a 50 percent increase in the risk for the syndrome.> > More research is needed to develop a full explanation of the causes > of restless legs syndrome. The New England Journal study indicates > as many as 65 percent of adults carry the gene variation that can > lead to symptoms, said Dr. Rye, an Emory University > neurologist who was another co-author.> > "People making the argument that this can't be very common — that's > just gone," said Rye, who himself has restless legs.> > Others disagreed.> > The syndrome is diagnosed through symptoms like periodic limb > movements in sleep, but lots of people may have limb movements > without having the condition, noted Dr. Woloshin, a Dartmouth > Medical School researcher who has argued the diagnosis is overhyped.> > He argues that the best evidence puts the U.S. prevalence of > restless legs at under 3 percent, less than common estimates of 10 > percent.> > The new research doesn't pin down what the condition is, who has it, > or what medication is needed, he wrote in an e-mail.> > ___ > > The New England Journal of Medicine: http://nejm.org/> Be a better Heartthrob. 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Guest guest Posted July 19, 2007 Report Share Posted July 19, 2007 No I am still waiting for my lead testing strips in the mail. If there is lead they will go back to LLBean with a few of my choice comments. Glad your legs are still. Still legs in South carolina, maurinekrstagliano <KRStagliano@...> wrote: Hey, my legs are quietly cooperative thank you very much. Kimmy Leg, damn that was good. At least I know you're aren't pissed off at me for the lunch boxes..... Kimfluenza Stagliosis> >> > I can imagine some drug company researcher watching that episode of > > Seinfeld and saying "Zounds!" and a disease was born. At least the > > article mentions the association to mineral deficiency, though the > > link is immediately discounted. I know that one of the drugs > they're > > proposing to "treat" the "genetic disorder", Cogentin, can cause > > heat stroke and bowl blockage. A Michigen FOIA request found that > > most "movement disorder" drugs- antidyskinetics- are prescribed for > > drug-induced movement disorders. > > When you think about the numbers of people of all ages getting the > > flu vax and possibly suffering from associated malabsorbtion and > > mineral derrangement and then consider the exponential increase in > > the use of psychiatric drugs which cause movement disorders among > > adults and children, mainstream science has served itself up a > basis > > for a "disease model". The Cat In The Hat with cleaning remedies > for > > the pink spot may have struck again. > > > > Studies: Restless legs syndrome is real By MIKE STOBBE, AP Medical > > Writer > > 37 minutes ago> > > > ATLANTA - Scientists have linked certain genes to restless legs > > syndrome, suggesting the twitching condition described as "jimmy > > legs" in a "Seinfeld" episode is biologically based and not an > > imaginary disorder. > > > > New studies published this week in two top medical journals are > > being called the first to identify specific genes responsible for > > restless legs syndrome symptoms. Research in the New England > Journal > > of Medicine linked a common gene variation to nighttime leg-> > twitching involving people in Iceland and the United States. A > > second study in Nature Genetics identified the same gene variation > > and two others in Germans and Canadians with restless legs syndrome.> > > > "This discovery demonstrates the power of genetics not only for > > uncovering the biological causes of disease, but also for defining > > diseases such as RLS and establishing them as medical conditions," > > said Dr. Kari Stefansson, in a prepared statement.> > > > Stefansson is a prominent Icelandic scientist who co-authored the > > New England Journal study.> > > > Restless legs syndrome is a neurological condition characterized by > > an irresistible urge to move the legs. Sufferers say it often hits > > at night, preventing them from sleeping.> > > > "It feels like something crawling inside your legs, biting on you," > > said Betty Shaw, a 68-year-old florist in Covington, Ga., who was > > diagnosed with it. So was her 43-year-old daughter.> > > > The condition gained cultural status through an oft-quoted episode > > of the sitcom "Seinfeld," in which the character Kramer is > disturbed > > that his girlfriend has "the jimmy legs" and kicks in bed.> > > > It's commonly treated with two government-approved drugs, including > > the heavily advertised Requip, made by GlaxoKline PLC. Sales > of > > Requip hit about $500 million last year. Shaw takes the aqua-> colored > > pill and says it's the only thing that's helped her.> > > > The first study looked at blood samples from more than 1,000 > > Icelanders and Americans, comparing the DNA of leg twitchers to the > > DNA of people without the symptom. Scientists found a certain > > variation in the human genome that, they say, probably accounts for > > 50 percent of restless legs cases.> > > > They also found that the variation was associated with lower iron > > levels, echoing — but not explaining — a relationship noted in > > earlier research.> > > > The second study compared the DNA of 400 people with a family > > history of the syndrome with the DNA of 1,600 who did not. It found > > variations in three areas of the genome that each were responsible > > for a 50 percent increase in the risk for the syndrome.> > > > More research is needed to develop a full explanation of the causes > > of restless legs syndrome. The New England Journal study indicates > > as many as 65 percent of adults carry the gene variation that can > > lead to symptoms, said Dr. Rye, an Emory University > > neurologist who was another co-author.> > > > "People making the argument that this can't be very common — that's > > just gone," said Rye, who himself has restless legs.> > > > Others disagreed.> > > > The syndrome is diagnosed through symptoms like periodic limb > > movements in sleep, but lots of people may have limb movements > > without having the condition, noted Dr. Woloshin, a > Dartmouth > > Medical School researcher who has argued the diagnosis is overhyped.> > > > He argues that the best evidence puts the U.S. prevalence of > > restless legs at under 3 percent, less than common estimates of 10 > > percent.> > > > The new research doesn't pin down what the condition is, who has > it, > > or what medication is needed, he wrote in an e-mail.> > > > ___ > > > > The New England Journal of Medicine: http://nejm.org/> >> > > > > > > ---------------------------------> Be a better Heartthrob. 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Guest guest Posted July 23, 2007 Report Share Posted July 23, 2007 in the 60's when I worked at a mental hospital, many patients were wiggle-jiggling , restless, chewing ,tongue rolling. etc, sounds like it is still a side effect of pharmacy drugs. ng Re: Genes cause "Jimmy leg"? I did a poll on mercury-autism and the MIA list asking about movement disoders among members, specifically "restless leg syndrome" and "periodic limb movement". I was doing it to help out a researcher so that he could do a rule-out on some statistics he'd uncovered. Meaning that, if vaccine-toxins themselves were causing some movement disorders, he could consider that at least a few of the hordes of children currently being prescribed drugs for movement disorders were not necessarily suffering from drug-induced movement disorders but from another form of iatrogenic injury. If that makes sense. What he ended up discovering from his FOIA requests is that there had been a 100% increase in prescriptions for drugs to treat drug-induced movement disorders within a ten month period. This was in keeping with how list members responded to my poll, mineral derrangement- probably induced by toxins- was the number one answer for adults who were affected- everyone had resolved the disorder with mineral supplements, calcium, etc.. But regarding reports on kids, all responses to my "restless leg" poll had to do with drugs. I didn't realize that SSRI's could typically cause "periodic limb movement" or PLM. You keep hearing about PLM but there's few explanations for it (they're going to tell us it's just "increased recognition", right?). I should send that information to this researcher. The following is a supporting document from Keeton Strayhorn's report which he cc'ed:Texas Health Care Claims Study Special Report: ChildrenCarole Keeton Strayhorn, Texas ComptrollerDecember 2006http://www.window.state.tx.us/specialrpt/hccfoster06/hccfoster06.pdf"More than 400 foster children were prescribed antidyskinetics drugsto control side effects from antipsychotics. Side effects fromantipsychotics include tremors, tics, dystonia, dyskinesia and tardivedyskinesia."(page vii, Executive Summary and Systemic Recommendations)Chapter 3, Antipsychotics and AntidyskineticsPage 76:Antidyskinetics: Drugs to Control Side Effects of AntipsychoticsPhysicians prescribe antidyskinetic medications to children in fostercare to controldrug-induced movement disorders caused by taking powerfulantipsychotic drugs. Involuntary movements such as tremors, tics,dystonia and dyskinesias may be symptomsof primary neurological diseases, such as Parkinson's disease, oroccur secondary topharmacotherapy. Drug-induced movement disorders, which are referredto as extrapyramidal side effects, can develop immediately or afterprolonged exposure to treatment with an offending medication.Extrapyramidal side effects occur in children on certain antipsychoticdrugs, particularlyhaloperidol and other fi rst-generation antipsychotics. Risperidal isalso known tohave extrapyramidal side effects on children, although to a lesserextent. TardiveDyskinesia, a neurological disorder that is a side effect of takingantipsychotic drugs, isuncommon in children. Tardive Dyskinesia symptoms can includeuncontrollable movementof different body parts.EXHIBIT 11Texas Care Antidyskinetic Prescriptions by Medication -- Fiscal 2004Brand name: chemical name: number of prescriptions:Cogentin benzotropine 2,295Trihexane [Artane] trihexyphenidyl 55EXHIBIT 13Texas Care Antidyskinetic Prescriptions by Age -- Fiscal 2004Age: Number of Children:0 - 4 45 - 9 3910 - 14 18015 - 19 20420+ 3Children between the ages of 10 and 19 were prescribed moreantidyskinetic drugs than other age groups. For example, about 2.7percent or 204 children in the 15 to 19 age group were prescribedmedications in this class and 2.6 percent or 180 children in the10 to 14 age group. Approximately half a percent or 39 children in the5 to 9 age group, and almost zero percent or four children in the 0 to4 age group were given antidyskinetic medications.Males were more likely than females to be prescribed antidyskineticdrugs, with 1.6percent of the male and 1.0 percent of the female foster childrenreceiving these medications.Side Eff ects and Drug InteractionsAccording to the 2006 Physician's Desk Reference (PDR), antidyskineticmedicationshave not been approved for use in children under the age of three. Inolder children antidyskinetic drugs, which include benzotropine(Cogentin) and trihexyphenidyl (Trihexane), should be used carefullyand under close physician supervision. The MayoClinic notes on its Web site, "Children may be especially sensitive tothe effects of antidyskinetics. This may increase the chance of sideeffects during treatment." Possibleside effects include: blurred vision, dry mouth, nausea or vomiting,constipation,drowsiness, disorientation, increased heart rate, irritability andurine retention.Antidyskinetic drugs decrease the body's ability to sweat and coolitself, resulting inoverheating and the danger of heat stroke. In addition, these drugsslow the digestiveprocess and may enhance the absorption of other drugs. Furthermore,the effects of antidyskinetic drugs are usually intensified when takenwith antidepressants such as amitriptyline, imipramine, trimipramine,desipramine, nortriptyline, protriptyline, amoxapine, doxepine andwith certain antihistamines.When taken simultaneously with an antipsychotic medication (Thorazine,Stelazine,Haldol and others) or a tricyclic antidepressant medication (Elavil,Norpramin, Tofraniland others), Cogentin has occasionally caused bowel blockage or heat strokethatproved dangerous or even fatal.>> The article said the woman felt like something was biting them. That's> very much a description of neuropathy or even vascular problems. I> also wonder if SSRIs have a role, a lot of people report jerking a lot> as they go to sleep, more than the usual sleep cycle stuff.> > Debi> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2007 Report Share Posted July 23, 2007 My oldest daughter with memory recall issues, and many food allergies, probable viral and metal issues, goes through periods of time where right before bed she can’t stop moving her legs. It drives her crazy and she cries that she can’t stop. I have related it to calcium and iron dysfunction. I did actually read somewhere that anemia in childhood could cause this. Both my ASD son and my daughter have very strange reactions to calcium supplementation. One of my daughters’ reactions to calcium is this leg movement and swelling in the legs. It is not a permanent condition it just happens periodically and I can usually find the culprit somewhere with calcium excitoxicity or low iron. - From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of anacat_11 Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 11:29 PM EOHarm Subject: Re: Genes cause " Jimmy leg " ? I did a poll on mercury-autism and the MIA list asking about movement disoders among members, specifically " restless leg syndrome " and " periodic limb movement " . I was doing it to help out a researcher so that he could do a rule-out on some statistics he'd uncovered. Meaning that, if vaccine-toxins themselves were causing some movement disorders, he could consider that at least a few of the hordes of children currently being prescribed drugs for movement disorders were not necessarily suffering from drug-induced movement disorders but from another form of iatrogenic injury. If that makes sense. What he ended up discovering from his FOIA requests is that there had been a 100% increase in prescriptions for drugs to treat drug-induced movement disorders within a ten month period. This was in keeping with how list members responded to my poll, mineral derrangement- probably induced by toxins- was the number one answer for adults who were affected- everyone had resolved the disorder with mineral supplements, calcium, etc.. But regarding reports on kids, all responses to my " restless leg " poll had to do with drugs. I didn't realize that SSRI's could typically cause " periodic limb movement " or PLM. You keep hearing about PLM but there's few explanations for it (they're going to tell us it's just " increased recognition " , right?). I should send that information to this researcher. The following is a supporting document from Keeton Strayhorn's report which he cc'ed: Texas Health Care Claims Study Special Report: Children Carole Keeton Strayhorn, Texas Comptroller December 2006 http://www.window.state.tx.us/specialrpt/hccfoster06/hccfoster06.pdf " More than 400 foster children were prescribed antidyskinetics drugs to control side effects from antipsychotics. Side effects from antipsychotics include tremors, tics, dystonia, dyskinesia and tardive dyskinesia. " (page vii, Executive Summary and Systemic Recommendations) Chapter 3, Antipsychotics and Antidyskinetics Page 76: Antidyskinetics: Drugs to Control Side Effects of Antipsychotics Physicians prescribe antidyskinetic medications to children in foster care to control drug-induced movement disorders caused by taking powerful antipsychotic drugs. Involuntary movements such as tremors, tics, dystonia and dyskinesias may be symptoms of primary neurological diseases, such as Parkinson's disease, or occur secondary to pharmacotherapy. Drug-induced movement disorders, which are referred to as extrapyramidal side effects, can develop immediately or after prolonged exposure to treatment with an offending medication. Extrapyramidal side effects occur in children on certain antipsychotic drugs, particularly haloperidol and other fi rst-generation antipsychotics. Risperidal is also known to have extrapyramidal side effects on children, although to a lesser extent. Tardive Dyskinesia, a neurological disorder that is a side effect of taking antipsychotic drugs, is uncommon in children. Tardive Dyskinesia symptoms can include uncontrollable movement of different body parts. EXHIBIT 11 Texas Care Antidyskinetic Prescriptions by Medication -- Fiscal 2004 Brand name: chemical name: number of prescriptions: Cogentin benzotropine 2,295 Trihexane [Artane] trihexyphenidyl 55 EXHIBIT 13 Texas Care Antidyskinetic Prescriptions by Age -- Fiscal 2004 Age: Number of Children: 0 - 4 4 5 - 9 39 10 - 14 180 15 - 19 204 20+ 3 Children between the ages of 10 and 19 were prescribed more antidyskinetic drugs than other age groups. For example, about 2.7 percent or 204 children in the 15 to 19 age group were prescribed medications in this class and 2.6 percent or 180 children in the 10 to 14 age group. Approximately half a percent or 39 children in the 5 to 9 age group, and almost zero percent or four children in the 0 to 4 age group were given antidyskinetic medications. Males were more likely than females to be prescribed antidyskinetic drugs, with 1.6 percent of the male and 1.0 percent of the female foster children receiving these medications. Side Eff ects and Drug Interactions According to the 2006 Physician's Desk Reference (PDR), antidyskinetic medications have not been approved for use in children under the age of three. In older children antidyskinetic drugs, which include benzotropine (Cogentin) and trihexyphenidyl (Trihexane), should be used carefully and under close physician supervision. The Mayo Clinic notes on its Web site, " Children may be especially sensitive to the effects of antidyskinetics. This may increase the chance of side effects during treatment. " Possible side effects include: blurred vision, dry mouth, nausea or vomiting, constipation, drowsiness, disorientation, increased heart rate, irritability and urine retention. Antidyskinetic drugs decrease the body's ability to sweat and cool itself, resulting in overheating and the danger of heat stroke. In addition, these drugs slow the digestive process and may enhance the absorption of other drugs. Furthermore, the effects of antidyskinetic drugs are usually intensified when taken with antidepressants such as amitriptyline, imipramine, trimipramine, desipramine, nortriptyline, protriptyline, amoxapine, doxepine and with certain antihistamines. When taken simultaneously with an antipsychotic medication (Thorazine, Stelazine, Haldol and others) or a tricyclic antidepressant medication (Elavil, Norpramin, Tofranil and others), Cogentin has occasionally caused bowel blockage or heat stroke that proved dangerous or even fatal. > > The article said the woman felt like something was biting them. That's > very much a description of neuropathy or even vascular problems. I > also wonder if SSRIs have a role, a lot of people report jerking a lot > as they go to sleep, more than the usual sleep cycle stuff. > > Debi > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2007 Report Share Posted July 23, 2007 Yes, I like the natural forms of calcium as well, If I do supplement I do nettles and chamomile, etc that Yasko recommends. We also do hemp milk. My son’s calcium is in normal range on the low end so I know he’s okay there. Yes I do think calcium dysfunction blocks the absorption of iron. My mother can’t take calcium either and myself and all 3 of my kids are low in iron and don’t do well with calcium absorption. Natasa compiled a paper with many references to calcium dysfunction. If you haven’t read it yet here it is. http://www.autismcalciumchannelopathy.com/ Take care, From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of anacat_11 Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 11:33 AM EOHarm Subject: Re: Genes cause " Jimmy leg " ? - do you have any links or articles on calcium exitoxicity? Our kids are GF/CF and we supplement with calcium citrate and vegetable forms, like kale and dandelion greens. I'm assuming that calcium dysfunction means that the person is both not receiving the benefits from the calcium they ingest and also being poisoned by it because of some problem in processing. Is that about right? I've read that calcium can block iron absorbtion- does this lead to iron deficiency, too? Thanks for any info. > > My oldest daughter with memory recall issues, and many food allergies, > probable viral and metal issues, goes through periods of time where right > before bed she can't stop moving her legs. It drives her crazy and she > cries that she can't stop. I have related it to calcium and iron > dysfunction. I did actually read somewhere that anemia in childhood could > cause this. Both my ASD son and my daughter have very strange reactions to > calcium supplementation. One of my daughters' reactions to calcium is this > leg movement and swelling in the legs. It is not a permanent condition it > just happens periodically and I can usually find the culprit somewhere with > calcium excitoxicity or low iron. - > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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