Guest guest Posted June 20, 2001 Report Share Posted June 20, 2001 In a message dated 6/20/01 3:19:08 PM Pacific Daylight Time, stolzfamily@... writes: << HEy, Gail! Glad to see you are back. We missed you!!!! >> , Thanks...good to be back. Missed you guys too! Are you done with schooling? We finish this Friday, can't wait! LOL Gail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2001 Report Share Posted June 20, 2001 HEy, Gail! Glad to see you are back. We missed you!!!! ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2001 Report Share Posted June 20, 2001 Hi All, I have a few minutes and back to work again.Welcome to Sue and Dee.Gail,glad you are back.I hope you are still planning for the July visit.Zeb finally got his glasses and the school reported that he kept them on and did very well with them.I can't believe how thick they are.I am feeling sooo guilty for not trying harder to have him refracted.I got his IEP today in the mail!! I am furious,nothing in the meeting was on this IEP.The minutes didn't include any key issues,no teacher supports,no present level,used 99 scores,no esy goals, no social goals,no behavioral plan, the list is endless.I called the central office and told them it was incomplete and inadequate and in no way acceptable.I am back to square one again! I am in my busy season with the business and now I writing more letters and again another ppt.I would just like one week without a school issue. I asked why the keyboard for home use was not on the IEP,Zeb uses intellikeys,and they said that the teachers were not properly trained and he wasn't using it enough to warrant home use and was not benefitting from that program.The entire IEP is based on the intellikeys.It was fine as of last week. If I hadn't questioned it were they going to change his IEP without telling me,hence another ppt to revise goals and get some honest answers.I am so mad!!!! I needed to vent.Leah,I spoke too soon.Zeb is a bolter too as well as my two older children.I am a great runner.The only kids that have ever stayed with me are the grandchildren.I at least got to experience that feeling,seems strange. Charlyne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2001 Report Share Posted June 21, 2001 In a message dated 6/21/01 12:43:36 AM Eastern Daylight Time, charlyne1121@... writes: << I am furious,nothing in the meeting was on this IEP.The minutes didn't include any key issues,no teacher supports,no present level,used 99 scores,no esy goals, no social goals,no behavioral plan, the list is endless >> Charlyne, We had three IEP meetings this year. I didn't want to bring in a tape recorder...so I asked for minutes at teh first two. My son't teacher did them but missed alot. I added to them and what I had heard. After doing this twice, I decided to just bring in a tape recorder. THe district then brought there's in too. But anyway, there could then be no denying what was said. I think, no matter how well one gets along with their district, it is really wise to bring a tape recorder to an IEP....just to avoid the scenario you described above. Lauri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2001 Report Share Posted June 21, 2001 In a message dated 6/21/01 12:43:36 AM Eastern Daylight Time, charlyne1121@... writes: << I am furious,nothing in the meeting was on this IEP.The minutes didn't include any key issues,no teacher supports,no present level,used 99 scores,no esy goals, no social goals,no behavioral plan, the list is endless >> Charlyne, We had three IEP meetings this year. I didn't want to bring in a tape recorder...so I asked for minutes at teh first two. My son't teacher did them but missed alot. I added to them and what I had heard. After doing this twice, I decided to just bring in a tape recorder. THe district then brought there's in too. But anyway, there could then be no denying what was said. I think, no matter how well one gets along with their district, it is really wise to bring a tape recorder to an IEP....just to avoid the scenario you described above. Lauri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2001 Report Share Posted September 8, 2001 In a message dated 9/8/01 7:36:43 PM Pacific Daylight Time, stolzfamily@... writes: << Hey Gail, What is " knill " ? I've never heard of it. >> Hi ! Well, it's called knill here, maybe something else other places. It's a music program that teaches imitation skills. Always starts and ends the same way....getting out and putting away your mat. All done to a tape. There are different beats to each movement...like....drums going bang, bang bang, bang and you sway your arms over your head. Then, one might be like....soft lullaby music and you pat your tummy. Another might be tick tock type of beat and you pat your cheeks. Switches about every 30 seconds. The *prompter* gives the kids a couple of seconds to do it on their own, then they do hand over hand. I think it is a great thing, but, the group Seth is in all have to be held down, (prompter wraps their legs around the child) in silence and do hand over hand. Seth loves to do this at home just sitting across from me and having fun, but seems so bored doing it in school. Level one is for kids that don't want to look at you and don't want you talking to them, then it progresses as the kids feel safe and secure with you so you don't have to keep your legs wrapped around them and they can sit on their own. Problem here is all these kids have done this same tape for at least 3 years, and they aren't progressing anyone. Routine is one thing, but stagnation is another. I have observed this in school at least once a quarter for the last two years. I did read the manual (after complaining to teacher)on it and it sounds like if they progressed the kids, it could be a great tool. Lots of rhythm to promote speech and imitation skills. It's almost as if they are concentrating on the kids not losing any skills, that they don't proceed to introduce new things. I have believed for two years that they are the *experts*. Well, maybe they have studied a lot about autism, but they aren't experts about Seth. We have FUN doing this at home and he can now tolerate touching his cheeks and improved his listening skills, and it makes my stomach churn to see him just sit there in school and be held down and doing it hand over hand. LOL He had such an aversion to touching his cheeks. I put mittens on him, had him hold fur, sand paper and all kinds of things to get him to touch his cheeks. LOL Sorry you asked now ? LOL Gail :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2001 Report Share Posted September 8, 2001 Hey Gail, What is " knill " ? I've never heard of it. ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2001 Report Share Posted September 9, 2001 Gail . This is my lesson of the day , Thanks . Always learning . Irma , 13,DS/ASD. > In a message dated 9/8/01 7:36:43 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > stolzfamily@j... writes: > > << Hey Gail, > What is " knill " ? > I've never heard of it. > >> > Hi ! > Well, it's called knill here, maybe something else other places. It's a > music program that teaches imitation skills. Always starts and ends the same > way....getting out and putting away your mat. All done to a tape. There are > different beats to each movement...like....drums going bang, bang bang, bang > and you sway your arms over your head. Then, one might be like....soft > lullaby music and you pat your tummy. Another might be tick tock type of > beat and you pat your cheeks. Switches about every 30 seconds. The > *prompter* gives the kids a couple of seconds to do it on their own, then > they do hand over hand. I think it is a great thing, but, the group Seth is > in all have to be held down, (prompter wraps their legs around the child) in > silence and do hand over hand. Seth loves to do this at home just sitting > across from me and having fun, but seems so bored doing it in school. Level > one is for kids that don't want to look at you and don't want you talking to > them, then it progresses as the kids feel safe and secure with you so you > don't have to keep your legs wrapped around them and they can sit on their > own. Problem here is all these kids have done this same tape for at least 3 > years, and they aren't progressing anyone. Routine is one thing, but > stagnation is another. I have observed this in school at least once a > quarter for the last two years. I did read the manual (after complaining to > teacher)on it and it sounds like if they progressed the kids, it could be a > great tool. Lots of rhythm to promote speech and imitation skills. It's > almost as if they are concentrating on the kids not losing any skills, that > they don't proceed to introduce new things. I have believed for two years > that they are the *experts*. Well, maybe they have studied a lot about > autism, but they aren't experts about Seth. We have FUN doing this at home > and he can now tolerate touching his cheeks and improved his listening > skills, and it makes my stomach churn to see him just sit there in school and > be held down and doing it hand over hand. LOL He had such an aversion to > touching his cheeks. I put mittens on him, had him hold fur, sand paper and > all kinds of things to get him to touch his cheeks. LOL Sorry you asked > now ? LOL > Gail :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2001 Report Share Posted September 9, 2001 In a message dated 9/9/01 9:47:47 AM Pacific Daylight Time, ICANFIELD@... writes: << Gail . This is my lesson of the day , Thanks . Always learning . Irma , 13,DS/ASD. >> Welcome Irma! LOL I don't have a lot of info to share, but glad to let you know anything I do have. Gail :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2001 Report Share Posted September 9, 2001 In a message dated 9/9/01 5:13:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time, smilinggail@... writes: > Welcome Irma! LOL I don't have a lot of info to share, but glad to let you > know anything I do have. > Don't kid yourself girl, yes you do!!!! Donna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2001 Report Share Posted September 9, 2001 In a message dated 9/9/01 6:17:03 PM Pacific Daylight Time, duffey48@... writes: << Welcome Irma! LOL I don't have a lot of info to share, but glad to let you > know anything I do have. > Don't kid yourself girl, yes you do!!!! Donna >> Aww, thanks Donna. By the time Seth is in high school, I may have some knowledge to share with the moms of the younger ones. I'm still learning and testing things everyday, and as we all know, what works today might not tomorrow! LOL Gail :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2002 Report Share Posted October 23, 2002 Hi Beth, Thanks for thinking of us. Dh is on meds at home and goes for blood work and x-rays every week. He's doing okay. My Grandson is still in the ICU in Rochester. They have been watching for brain damage due to the lack of oxygen. Yesterday he looked really out of it. The only pact I have with God is that I will accept whatever he allows. LOL ( but I pray hard that things work out okay) Wouldn't it be nice to go through life with no suffering? Guess that's why we have Heaven. ;-) Things like this really show you what's important in life, ya know? I hope your wonderful family are all okay. Thanks. Gail :-) << Gail, How is your DH doing with this bout of pneumonia? Is he back in the hospital? I am so sorry! How is your grandson recuperating? It seems like you should have an agreement with God- " No more hospitalizations this year!!!! " Good grief! Glad that Seth is having a successful school year. At least you don't have the worry about THAT at this time! Always amazing to hear you as cheerful as you are, despite everything. Blessings, MB >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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