Re: /writing on paper a lot

[Guest guest]

I have pages of writing also, up to 2-3 tablets a day. The odd thing is

there are many words in it and a lot of it is written right to left, upside

down and backwards. Years ago they told me it was a precursor to writing but

that never happened. A lot of professionals have looked at it but no one can

explain it. I even had VI do an assessment because I thought she was seeing

upside down which would effect your psyche, but they told me it gets turned

in the brain after she looks at it ?!?!?I think my Sara is just visiting from

another planet.

We also have the " book reading " although she can't read. They give away

phone books at the groc. store and she gets one each time we go...must have a

ton.

Now my Amy is the pack rat. She collects " her stuff " as she calls it. Had

to get a back pack with wheels it got so heavy. She has to be surrounded

" literally by her stuff, we take it to restaurants, the car, movies, where

every we go the stuff goes.

Judy

[Guest guest]

Hi Cheryl,

You know, sits and writs for long periods of

time too. He calls it " doing his work. " He doesn't

know how to write so it is really just a bunch of

squiggles that look very much like writing. I hadn't

realized this was an autistic thing until you wrote

that Angel does it too. Another thing does is

looks at a bible or a dictionary for long periods of

time. (He can't read.) Weird huh?

Mom to 12

--- Cheryl Magnussen <magnussen@...> wrote:

> ,

> sounds so much like Angel, in the fact that

> he is social and yet has

> autistic tendancies. She doesn't do alot of lining

> of toys but has LOTS of

> ridgidness around routine during transitions, very

> little eye contact,

> strange fears, is obsessive about printing on a

> piece of paper soooo much of

> the day when time is unstructured, etc etc. The

> diagnosis will help her to

> attain the services we need asap, which is good.

> Angel self stims by

> holding her hand in the back of her panties. She

> seems to constantly need a

> hand there, and she scratches alot. She also likes

> to feel people, lots of

> touching of things, and mouthing of things. Loves

> the feel of the pressure

> from the shower on her back and bum especially.

> Just stands there and

> scratches her bum and feels the water run off. Very

> happy and content in

> there. Lots of giggles even. Funny how our kids

> fill their sensory needs.

> Smart little stinker-binkers aren't they!

>

> Cheryl

> Re: New here... Intro & a few

> questions

>

>

> > Hi ,

> > Well, I first started to suspect that had

> > someting other than ds when other people started

> > bringing it up. A friend would see something on tv

> and

> > recognize characteristics that had. Then

> when I

> > started learning more about autism I started to

> really

> > wonder. often will not look a person in the

> the

> > eyes when he is talking to them. He likes to

> dangle

> > certain objects in front of his face for hours.

> > (shoestrings, t-shirts, necklaces) He rarely plays

> > with toys but sometimes when he does he lines then

> up

> > on the floor and moves them all around the house

> in a

> > line. He also has a lot of self-stimulating

> behaviors.

> > He often rubs the palms of his hands on things

> like

> > the corners of blankets or my least favorite, on

> the

> > end of MY NOSE!

> > So those are just some of the things that made me

> > wonder. is a very social boy and that part

> of

> > him makes people who know about autism think he

> > doesn't have it until I describe the things above

> and

> > then they agree.

> > The only advantage to having these autistic

> > tendancies is that he is eligible for a lot more

> > services with the Regional Center.

> > Good luck .

> >

> >

> > Mom to 12

> > --- <murraynm@...> wrote:

> > > Hi everyone, I have a 5 1/2 year old son

> with

> > > DS, who I think

> > > may have ASD as well. We are awaiting an

> > > appointment with an autisim

> > > ped at our local children's hospital. I am

> > > wondering what

> > > symptoms/behaviours your child first displayed

> that

> > > made you wonder

> > > if they have ASD. Did you discover this on your

> > > own, or did a

> > > doctor, therapist or other professional suggest

> the

> > > diagnosis? I

> > > admit I have thought for a while that perhaps

> there

> > > was more to

> > > than just DS, but am confused about this whole

> dual

> > > diagnosis thing.

> > > Yet the more info I find out on ASD, the more I

> see

> > > certain

> > > behaviours in .

> > >

> > > We live in Alberta, Canada. I am married and

> have 2

> > > other sons,

> > > (12) and Blake (8). I look forward to

> > > getting to know

> > > everyone and hearing about your children.

> Please

> > > bear with me, this

> > > is my first experience with a listserve and am

> not

> > > sure how it works!

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> > __________________________________________________

> >

[Guest guest]

still cant write and doesnt try to do so or even color on own, unless

its the wall,lol, but he does like to look at books he can do this late at

night, its become a bedtime thing he will ask us to read and we always read

one story to him then he pretends to read to himself, and will do this a

good hour or more then he turns his light off to go to sleep, i then put his

CPAP on him before he is completely asleep, but i think its good they are

interested in books. shawna.

Re: New here... Intro & a few

> > questions

> >

> >

> > > Hi ,

> > > Well, I first started to suspect that had

> > > someting other than ds when other people started

> > > bringing it up. A friend would see something on tv

> > and

> > > recognize characteristics that had. Then

> > when I

> > > started learning more about autism I started to

> > really

> > > wonder. often will not look a person in the

> > the

> > > eyes when he is talking to them. He likes to

> > dangle

> > > certain objects in front of his face for hours.

> > > (shoestrings, t-shirts, necklaces) He rarely plays

> > > with toys but sometimes when he does he lines then

> > up

> > > on the floor and moves them all around the house

> > in a

> > > line. He also has a lot of self-stimulating

> > behaviors.

> > > He often rubs the palms of his hands on things

> > like

> > > the corners of blankets or my least favorite, on

> > the

> > > end of MY NOSE!

> > > So those are just some of the things that made me

> > > wonder. is a very social boy and that part

> > of

> > > him makes people who know about autism think he

> > > doesn't have it until I describe the things above

> > and

> > > then they agree.

> > > The only advantage to having these autistic

> > > tendancies is that he is eligible for a lot more

> > > services with the Regional Center.

> > > Good luck .

> > >

> > >

> > > Mom to 12

> > > --- <murraynm@...> wrote:

> > > > Hi everyone, I have a 5 1/2 year old son

> > with

> > > > DS, who I think

> > > > may have ASD as well. We are awaiting an

> > > > appointment with an autisim

> > > > ped at our local children's hospital. I am

> > > > wondering what

> > > > symptoms/behaviours your child first displayed

> > that

> > > > made you wonder

> > > > if they have ASD. Did you discover this on your

> > > > own, or did a

> > > > doctor, therapist or other professional suggest

> > the

> > > > diagnosis? I

> > > > admit I have thought for a while that perhaps

> > there

> > > > was more to

> > > > than just DS, but am confused about this whole

> > dual

> > > > diagnosis thing.

> > > > Yet the more info I find out on ASD, the more I

> > see

> > > > certain

> > > > behaviours in .

> > > >

> > > > We live in Alberta, Canada. I am married and

> > have 2

> > > > other sons,

> > > > (12) and Blake (8). I look forward to

> > > > getting to know

> > > > everyone and hearing about your children.

> > Please

> > > > bear with me, this

> > > > is my first experience with a listserve and am

> > not

> > > > sure how it works!

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > > __________________________________________________

> > >

[Guest guest]

<<Another thing does is

looks at a bible or a dictionary for long periods of

time. (He can't read.) Weird huh>>

Ted used to love to turn the pages of the huge 4 inch thick

telephone books. Also the dictionary and my bible!

I wondered why he didn't want his own books. I'd even

provide him with _thick_ childrens books. I then thought

it was the thin pages of these types of books that he enjoyed.

Now for about a year he has had one of those double size Rugrat

coloring book that has the binding at the top. He occasionally

will color in it or EVEN let me color with him! But mostly he

just likes to turn the pages when he goes to bed and watches

that last hour of TV!

Gail, mom to 20, 17, and Master Ted! age 9

gboughton@...

[Guest guest]

HI , this writing thing sounds very similar to Angel. I am really

feeling that it is almost an obsession with her. Just recently wondered if

it was autism related or not. She also does the book thing. She loves my

dictionary and it has been a transitional object for years. She sneaks my

novels and hides them in her room, sits for great lengths of time pretending

to read them. She also now takes the pen and writes in them. Little

scribbles that she calls letters. She has sooooo many note pads that she

writes on. Some for home, some for the truck. And I always have pens in my

purse now. The daycare staff all say she is destined to either write a book

or to teach a class, as she is always at the blackboard printing her

'letters'. She has always liked books as her favorite toy. could look at

them forever. Ever since she was 4 months old and could hold her first baby

book, she would sit and look and laugh, and quickly learned to turn her own

pages. She amazed everyone with this very early skill. We used books to

motivate her to hold her head up, to roll over, to sit, etc. I understood

then that it was the visuals that she liked, but then when she began to read

the dictionary non stop, I wondered if she was just trying to imitate me,

with a novel. He dad does a lot of paperwork, when he is home from logging

camp, so we associated the writing with something she sees him do. It is a

great transitional tool, also calms her when she needs some quiet time, and

gives her something to focus on when she is having to sit. How old was

when he started the printing and reading thing?

Cheryl

Re: New here... Intro & a few

> > questions

> >

> >

> > > Hi ,

> > > Well, I first started to suspect that had

> > > someting other than ds when other people started

> > > bringing it up. A friend would see something on tv

> > and

> > > recognize characteristics that had. Then

> > when I

> > > started learning more about autism I started to

> > really

> > > wonder. often will not look a person in the

> > the

> > > eyes when he is talking to them. He likes to

> > dangle

> > > certain objects in front of his face for hours.

> > > (shoestrings, t-shirts, necklaces) He rarely plays

> > > with toys but sometimes when he does he lines then

> > up

> > > on the floor and moves them all around the house

> > in a

> > > line. He also has a lot of self-stimulating

> > behaviors.

> > > He often rubs the palms of his hands on things

> > like

> > > the corners of blankets or my least favorite, on

> > the

> > > end of MY NOSE!

> > > So those are just some of the things that made me

> > > wonder. is a very social boy and that part

> > of

> > > him makes people who know about autism think he

> > > doesn't have it until I describe the things above

> > and

> > > then they agree.

> > > The only advantage to having these autistic

> > > tendancies is that he is eligible for a lot more

> > > services with the Regional Center.

> > > Good luck .

> > >

> > >

> > > Mom to 12

> > > --- <murraynm@...> wrote:

> > > > Hi everyone, I have a 5 1/2 year old son

> > with

> > > > DS, who I think

> > > > may have ASD as well. We are awaiting an

> > > > appointment with an autisim

> > > > ped at our local children's hospital. I am

> > > > wondering what

> > > > symptoms/behaviours your child first displayed

> > that

> > > > made you wonder

> > > > if they have ASD. Did you discover this on your

> > > > own, or did a

> > > > doctor, therapist or other professional suggest

> > the

> > > > diagnosis? I

> > > > admit I have thought for a while that perhaps

> > there

> > > > was more to

> > > > than just DS, but am confused about this whole

> > dual

> > > > diagnosis thing.

> > > > Yet the more info I find out on ASD, the more I

> > see

> > > > certain

> > > > behaviours in .

> > > >

> > > > We live in Alberta, Canada. I am married and

> > have 2

> > > > other sons,

> > > > (12) and Blake (8). I look forward to

> > > > getting to know

> > > > everyone and hearing about your children.

> > Please

> > > > bear with me, this

> > > > is my first experience with a listserve and am

> > not

> > > > sure how it works!

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > > __________________________________________________

> > >

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 4/28/01 5:25:14 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

Judithrehling@... writes:

<< Now my Amy is the pack rat. She collects " her stuff " as she calls it.

Had

to get a back pack with wheels it got so heavy. She has to be surrounded

" literally by her stuff, we take it to restaurants, the car, movies, where

every we go the stuff goes.

Judy >>

LOL Judy....I can just picture that! LOL

Gail

[Guest guest]

Interesting Judy,

I think I have a mini Amy on my hands. Angel packs bags full of toys and

carries them around. Doesn't really play with them, but loves to pack them

all up and carry them. A shopping bag or gift bag is heaven to her. More

things to pack up. Funny habit.

Cheryl

Re: /writing on paper a lot

> In a message dated 4/28/01 5:25:14 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

> Judithrehling@... writes:

>

> << Now my Amy is the pack rat. She collects " her stuff " as she calls it.

> Had

> to get a back pack with wheels it got so heavy. She has to be surrounded

> " literally by her stuff, we take it to restaurants, the car, movies,

where

> every we go the stuff goes.

>

> Judy >>

>

>

> LOL Judy....I can just picture that! LOL

> Gail

>

>

> --------------------------------------------------

> Checkout our homepage for information, bookmarks, and photos

of our kids. Share favorite bookmarks, ideas, and other information by

including them. Don't forget, messages are a permanent record of the

archives for our list.

> --------------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

Cheryl,

This behahior in is a relatively new one. The

book thing started maybe in the last 2 years where the

writing started about a year ago. In fact hated

writing anything at all. This included coloring. Then

all of a sudden he changed and started drawing (actual

pictures of real things) and started " writing. " I

think it is facinating that isn't the only one

who does this. I thought this was just an imitation of

other people, which I think is part of it but I think

there is something else to it too.

Mom to 12

--- Cheryl Magnussen <magnussen@...> wrote:

> HI , this writing thing sounds very similar

> to Angel. I am really

> feeling that it is almost an obsession with her.

> Just recently wondered if

> it was autism related or not. She also does the

> book thing. She loves my

> dictionary and it has been a transitional object for

> years. She sneaks my

> novels and hides them in her room, sits for great

> lengths of time pretending

> to read them. She also now takes the pen and writes

> in them. Little

> scribbles that she calls letters. She has sooooo

> many note pads that she

> writes on. Some for home, some for the truck. And

> I always have pens in my

> purse now. The daycare staff all say she is

> destined to either write a book

> or to teach a class, as she is always at the

> blackboard printing her

> 'letters'. She has always liked books as her

> favorite toy. could look at

> them forever. Ever since she was 4 months old and

> could hold her first baby

> book, she would sit and look and laugh, and quickly

> learned to turn her own

> pages. She amazed everyone with this very early

> skill. We used books to

> motivate her to hold her head up, to roll over, to

> sit, etc. I understood

> then that it was the visuals that she liked, but

> then when she began to read

> the dictionary non stop, I wondered if she was just

> trying to imitate me,

> with a novel. He dad does a lot of paperwork, when

> he is home from logging

> camp, so we associated the writing with something

> she sees him do. It is a

> great transitional tool, also calms her when she

> needs some quiet time, and

> gives her something to focus on when she is having

> to sit. How old was

> when he started the printing and reading

> thing?

>

> Cheryl

>

> Re: New here... Intro & a

> few

> > > questions

> > >

> > >

> > > > Hi ,

> > > > Well, I first started to suspect that

> had

> > > > someting other than ds when other people

> started

> > > > bringing it up. A friend would see something

> on tv

> > > and

> > > > recognize characteristics that had.

> Then

> > > when I

> > > > started learning more about autism I started

> to

> > > really

> > > > wonder. often will not look a person in

> the

> > > the

> > > > eyes when he is talking to them. He likes to

> > > dangle

> > > > certain objects in front of his face for

> hours.

> > > > (shoestrings, t-shirts, necklaces) He rarely

> plays

> > > > with toys but sometimes when he does he lines

> then

> > > up

> > > > on the floor and moves them all around the

> house

> > > in a

> > > > line. He also has a lot of self-stimulating

> > > behaviors.

> > > > He often rubs the palms of his hands on things

> > > like

> > > > the corners of blankets or my least favorite,

> on

> > > the

> > > > end of MY NOSE!

> > > > So those are just some of the things that made

> me

> > > > wonder. is a very social boy and that

> part

> > > of

> > > > him makes people who know about autism think

> he

> > > > doesn't have it until I describe the things

> above

> > > and

> > > > then they agree.

> > > > The only advantage to having these

> autistic

> > > > tendancies is that he is eligible for a lot

> more

> > > > services with the Regional Center.

> > > > Good luck .

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Mom to 12

> > > > --- <murraynm@...> wrote:

> > > > > Hi everyone, I have a 5 1/2 year old son

>

> > > with

> > > > > DS, who I think

> > > > > may have ASD as well. We are awaiting an

> > > > > appointment with an autisim

> > > > > ped at our local children's hospital. I am

> > > > > wondering what

> > > > > symptoms/behaviours your child first

> displayed

> > > that

> > > > > made you wonder

> > > > > if they have ASD. Did you discover this on

> your

> > > > > own, or did a

> > > > > doctor, therapist or other professional

> suggest

> > > the

> > > > > diagnosis? I

> > > > > admit I have thought for a while that

> perhaps

> > > there

> > > > > was more to

> > > > > than just DS, but am confused about this

> whole

>

=== message truncated ===

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Hi michelle,

Zeb has a real problem with the writing. It has been a nightmare to pursue in

school but will use the keyboard.The pyschologist has told me that

developmentally he isn't ready but will do it in his own time. Do you think

that it was just 's time?

Charlyne

[Guest guest]

Actually, 's teacher had given up on writing

with him. He also had gone to the keyboard. But then

all of a sudden he wanted to write so, yeah, I guess

it was just his time to start.

Mom to 12

--- charlyne1121@... wrote:

> Hi michelle,

> Zeb has a real problem with the writing. It has been

> a nightmare to pursue in

> school but will use the keyboard.The pyschologist

> has told me that

> developmentally he isn't ready but will do it in his

> own time. Do you think

> that it was just 's time?

> Charlyne

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

__________________________________________________