Re: Need help in PA fast...please

[Guest guest]

Hi Col,

May I ask what Pediatrician did that to you?? They are no longer

holding their oath to do no harm by leaving you without care! That

is absolutely outrageous! On another note, I use Sewickley Valley

Pediatrics. They have 4 offices. One in wexford by 79, one in

Sewickley Valley Hospital, one in Rochester and one in Moon. We

visit the wexford location and see Dr. Graff. He is not a DAN

doctor but he is pretty well informed and up to date. He is actually

the one that caught the autism in my son at a sick visit. He has

done everything that I have asked for since my sons diagnosis. I

have to say that I do not yet know how he feels about vaccines as my

son is not due as of yet. He was vaccinated prior to the dx and has

not had any due since. I ahve also heard great things about a

pediatric group in the north hills called pediatric alliance? from

other spectrum parents. try and google it. Hope that helps. natalie

EOHarm , " analyzinggal " <mcstrom@...> wrote:

>

> Hi Becky,

>

> The DT comes in both thimerosal containing and thimerosal free. I

told them we needed

> thimerosal free.

>

> Bottom line...it wasn't even about that. They want her to get

everything despite my wishes

> or any potential harm the pertussis could do.

>

> I knew this happened to other parents who refused vaccines but

honestly, and maybe

> arrogantly, I didn't think it would happen to us. I honestly

thought " they'll never do that to

> me because we ARE getting some of the vaccines...just not every

single one and we are

> doing it slowly. "

>

> Well...here I am. I am still furious.

>

> It is amazing to me that they could just leave a parent hanging

with no doctor over this.

>

> Col

>

>

> >

> > I'm in Maine so can't help you with finding a doctor. I noticed

you were

> > trying to get a DT vaccine for your baby. I'm not sure they make

a

> > mercury free one. Holly Austin (aka kalebsrecovery on list) can

tell you

> > about her son's story with not getting the DTaP a second time

because of

> > seizures after in her son, but the DT contained thimerosal. I

think he

> > seized after that shot as well. I'll cc her this in case she

misses this

> > on list.

> >

> >

> >

> > Her son is now autistic.

> >

> >

> >

> > Becky

> >

> >

> >

> > Need help in PA fast...please

> >

> >

> >

> > Does anyone know where I can go to find a new Pediatrician? One

that is

> > flexible with

> > vaccines? A website maybe?

> >

> > , I registered today with AutismLink hoping someone might

help me

> > there but I

> > haven't gotten my ok to start posting yet.

> >

> > Some of you know already, I have a 6 month old. My daughter is

12 years

> > old and my son

> > (aspergers) is 11. I am not against vaccines entirely, but

extremely

> > cautious about some

> > and certainly I don't want them all at once.

> >

> > I did get my daughter the Tdap recently because it helps to

protect my 6

> > month old and

> > the ped told us that they were seeing cases of whooping cough in

our

> > area. I did, however,

> > refuse the HPV.

> >

> > The baby is getting some vaccines but very slowly and one at a

time. She

> > has gotten 1

> > DTaP, 1 Polio, 2 prevnar and 2 Hib. I spoke to Mark Geier at

length

> > about which to get and

> > which to avoid, how to get them, etc.

> >

> > The baby had a reaction to the DTaP. Two days later, she went

pale and

> > cried nonstop for

> > several hours. We called the doctor and were referred to

children's

> > hospital. They almost

> > brought her into the ER, but she was not having seizures and

finally

> > fell asleep, exhausted.

> > She showed no signs of anything the following day.

> >

> > I also spoke to Mark specifically about this since he knows a lot

> > specifically about the DTP

> > and DTaP.

> >

> > We have refused the pertussis component since then but did agree

to give

> > her the DT.

> > They said they would have to get that for her.

> >

> > Today, I went in for her 6 month visit. She was due for a second

polio

> > vaccine today. The

> > pediatrician, one my children have been seeing for 12 years,

told me

> > that they were not

> > going to get the DT for her and that I could check with the

county

> > health department if I

> > wanted. Further, unless I agreed to give her the DTaP (as they

do not

> > believe she had a

> > reaction) and EVERY SINGLE VACCINE ON THE SCHEDULE, regardless

if it is

> > required for

> > school or not, we can leave.

> >

> > Long story short...they booted us today because I did not want

her to

> > get the Pertussis

> > again. The only other vaccines we even discussed in delaying or

skipping

> > was the Hep B to

> > be skipped and delaying chicken pox as I would rather her get it

on her

> > own. I refused the

> > HPV for my 12 year old several months ago.

> >

> > I checked, BTW, with the dept of health for PA and there is no

notice of

> > a whooping cough

> > outbreak. I believe they were lying to us to force us into it.

He told

> > me that I don't have to

> > agree with them, but that they will not treat my children unless

they

> > get every single

> > vaccination recommended by the CDC. He said he cannot force me

into the

> > vaccines, so I

> > have the choice of going elsewhere.

> >

> > Now I have a 6 month old, along with my older kids (including a

son with

> > a heart

> > condition) and no pediatrician. If they get sick tomorrow, I

have no

> > where to go.

> >

> > Anyone know where I can find a doctor fast that will not give me

the

> > same grief? A website

> > maybe that gives info about doctors?

> >

> > Col

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I put the word out and am getting a recommendation in your area for a

pediatrician who won't give you a hard time with vaccines or biomed

interventions on our Pgh group. Glad to help.

:-)

>

> Does anyone know where I can go to find a new Pediatrician? One that

is flexible with

> vaccines? A website maybe?

>

> , I registered today with AutismLink hoping someone might help

me there but I

> haven't gotten my ok to start posting yet.

>

> Some of you know already, I have a 6 month old. My daughter is 12

years old and my son

> (aspergers) is 11. I am not against vaccines entirely, but extremely

cautious about some

> and certainly I don't want them all at once.

>

> I did get my daughter the Tdap recently because it helps to protect

my 6 month old and

> the ped told us that they were seeing cases of whooping cough in our

area. I did, however,

> refuse the HPV.

>

> The baby is getting some vaccines but very slowly and one at a time.

She has gotten 1

> DTaP, 1 Polio, 2 prevnar and 2 Hib. I spoke to Mark Geier at length

about which to get and

> which to avoid, how to get them, etc.

>

> The baby had a reaction to the DTaP. Two days later, she went pale

and cried nonstop for

> several hours. We called the doctor and were referred to children's

hospital. They almost

> brought her into the ER, but she was not having seizures and finally

fell asleep, exhausted.

> She showed no signs of anything the following day.

>

> I also spoke to Mark specifically about this since he knows a lot

specifically about the DTP

> and DTaP.

>

> We have refused the pertussis component since then but did agree to

give her the DT.

> They said they would have to get that for her.

>

> Today, I went in for her 6 month visit. She was due for a second

polio vaccine today. The

> pediatrician, one my children have been seeing for 12 years, told me

that they were not

> going to get the DT for her and that I could check with the county

health department if I

> wanted. Further, unless I agreed to give her the DTaP (as they do

not believe she had a

> reaction) and EVERY SINGLE VACCINE ON THE SCHEDULE, regardless if it

is required for

> school or not, we can leave.

>

> Long story short...they booted us today because I did not want her

to get the Pertussis

> again. The only other vaccines we even discussed in delaying or

skipping was the Hep B to

> be skipped and delaying chicken pox as I would rather her get it on

her own. I refused the

> HPV for my 12 year old several months ago.

>

> I checked, BTW, with the dept of health for PA and there is no

notice of a whooping cough

> outbreak. I believe they were lying to us to force us into it. He

told me that I don't have to

> agree with them, but that they will not treat my children unless

they get every single

> vaccination recommended by the CDC. He said he cannot force me into

the vaccines, so I

> have the choice of going elsewhere.

>

> Now I have a 6 month old, along with my older kids (including a son

with a heart

> condition) and no pediatrician. If they get sick tomorrow, I have no

where to go.

>

> Anyone know where I can find a doctor fast that will not give me the

same grief? A website

> maybe that gives info about doctors?

>

> Col

>

[Guest guest]

I put the word out and am getting a recommendation in your area for a

pediatrician who won't give you a hard time with vaccines or biomed

interventions on our Pgh group. Glad to help.

:-)

>

> Does anyone know where I can go to find a new Pediatrician? One that

is flexible with

> vaccines? A website maybe?

>

> , I registered today with AutismLink hoping someone might help

me there but I

> haven't gotten my ok to start posting yet.

>

> Some of you know already, I have a 6 month old. My daughter is 12

years old and my son

> (aspergers) is 11. I am not against vaccines entirely, but extremely

cautious about some

> and certainly I don't want them all at once.

>

> I did get my daughter the Tdap recently because it helps to protect

my 6 month old and

> the ped told us that they were seeing cases of whooping cough in our

area. I did, however,

> refuse the HPV.

>

> The baby is getting some vaccines but very slowly and one at a time.

She has gotten 1

> DTaP, 1 Polio, 2 prevnar and 2 Hib. I spoke to Mark Geier at length

about which to get and

> which to avoid, how to get them, etc.

>

> The baby had a reaction to the DTaP. Two days later, she went pale

and cried nonstop for

> several hours. We called the doctor and were referred to children's

hospital. They almost

> brought her into the ER, but she was not having seizures and finally

fell asleep, exhausted.

> She showed no signs of anything the following day.

>

> I also spoke to Mark specifically about this since he knows a lot

specifically about the DTP

> and DTaP.

>

> We have refused the pertussis component since then but did agree to

give her the DT.

> They said they would have to get that for her.

>

> Today, I went in for her 6 month visit. She was due for a second

polio vaccine today. The

> pediatrician, one my children have been seeing for 12 years, told me

that they were not

> going to get the DT for her and that I could check with the county

health department if I

> wanted. Further, unless I agreed to give her the DTaP (as they do

not believe she had a

> reaction) and EVERY SINGLE VACCINE ON THE SCHEDULE, regardless if it

is required for

> school or not, we can leave.

>

> Long story short...they booted us today because I did not want her

to get the Pertussis

> again. The only other vaccines we even discussed in delaying or

skipping was the Hep B to

> be skipped and delaying chicken pox as I would rather her get it on

her own. I refused the

> HPV for my 12 year old several months ago.

>

> I checked, BTW, with the dept of health for PA and there is no

notice of a whooping cough

> outbreak. I believe they were lying to us to force us into it. He

told me that I don't have to

> agree with them, but that they will not treat my children unless

they get every single

> vaccination recommended by the CDC. He said he cannot force me into

the vaccines, so I

> have the choice of going elsewhere.

>

> Now I have a 6 month old, along with my older kids (including a son

with a heart

> condition) and no pediatrician. If they get sick tomorrow, I have no

where to go.

>

> Anyone know where I can find a doctor fast that will not give me the

same grief? A website

> maybe that gives info about doctors?

>

> Col

>

[Guest guest]

Actually one of the largest pediatric groups in Pittsburgh will

discharge patients if they don't get vaccinations according to the

" schedule. " Many, many people here have been dropped by their

pediatricians for refusal to vaccinate. They are sent a letter that

basically says vaccinate or you're gone.

>

> Hi Col,

>

> May I ask what Pediatrician did that to you?? They are no longer

> holding their oath to do no harm by leaving you without care! That

> is absolutely outrageous! On another note, I use Sewickley Valley

> Pediatrics. They have 4 offices. One in wexford by 79, one in

> Sewickley Valley Hospital, one in Rochester and one in Moon. We

> visit the wexford location and see Dr. Graff. He is not a DAN

> doctor but he is pretty well informed and up to date. He is actually

> the one that caught the autism in my son at a sick visit. He has

> done everything that I have asked for since my sons diagnosis. I

> have to say that I do not yet know how he feels about vaccines as my

> son is not due as of yet. He was vaccinated prior to the dx and has

> not had any due since. I ahve also heard great things about a

> pediatric group in the north hills called pediatric alliance? from

> other spectrum parents. try and google it. Hope that helps. natalie

>

>

[Guest guest]

Actually one of the largest pediatric groups in Pittsburgh will

discharge patients if they don't get vaccinations according to the

" schedule. " Many, many people here have been dropped by their

pediatricians for refusal to vaccinate. They are sent a letter that

basically says vaccinate or you're gone.

>

> Hi Col,

>

> May I ask what Pediatrician did that to you?? They are no longer

> holding their oath to do no harm by leaving you without care! That

> is absolutely outrageous! On another note, I use Sewickley Valley

> Pediatrics. They have 4 offices. One in wexford by 79, one in

> Sewickley Valley Hospital, one in Rochester and one in Moon. We

> visit the wexford location and see Dr. Graff. He is not a DAN

> doctor but he is pretty well informed and up to date. He is actually

> the one that caught the autism in my son at a sick visit. He has

> done everything that I have asked for since my sons diagnosis. I

> have to say that I do not yet know how he feels about vaccines as my

> son is not due as of yet. He was vaccinated prior to the dx and has

> not had any due since. I ahve also heard great things about a

> pediatric group in the north hills called pediatric alliance? from

> other spectrum parents. try and google it. Hope that helps. natalie

>

>

[Guest guest]

Pediatric Alliance

http://www.pediatricalliance.com/index.cfm

-- In EOHarm , " autismlink " <cindy@...> wrote:

>

> Actually one of the largest pediatric groups in Pittsburgh will

> discharge patients if they don't get vaccinations according to the

> " schedule. " Many, many people here have been dropped by their

> pediatricians for refusal to vaccinate. They are sent a letter that

> basically says vaccinate or you're gone.

>

>

>

>

> >

> > Hi Col,

> >

> > May I ask what Pediatrician did that to you?? They are no longer

> > holding their oath to do no harm by leaving you without care! That

> > is absolutely outrageous! On another note, I use Sewickley Valley

> > Pediatrics. They have 4 offices. One in wexford by 79, one in

> > Sewickley Valley Hospital, one in Rochester and one in Moon. We

> > visit the wexford location and see Dr. Graff. He is not a DAN

> > doctor but he is pretty well informed and up to date. He is actually

> > the one that caught the autism in my son at a sick visit. He has

> > done everything that I have asked for since my sons diagnosis. I

> > have to say that I do not yet know how he feels about vaccines as my

> > son is not due as of yet. He was vaccinated prior to the dx and has

> > not had any due since. I ahve also heard great things about a

> > pediatric group in the north hills called pediatric alliance? from

> > other spectrum parents. try and google it. Hope that helps. natalie

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Bah, I'm an idiot. I meant to post that Pediatric Alliance is the one

to STAY AWAY FROM.

They're the ones who boot you if you don't follow their schedule of

vaccinations.

> > >

> > > Hi Col,

> > >

> > > May I ask what Pediatrician did that to you?? They are no longer

> > > holding their oath to do no harm by leaving you without care! That

> > > is absolutely outrageous! On another note, I use Sewickley Valley

> > > Pediatrics. They have 4 offices. One in wexford by 79, one in

> > > Sewickley Valley Hospital, one in Rochester and one in Moon. We

> > > visit the wexford location and see Dr. Graff. He is not a DAN

> > > doctor but he is pretty well informed and up to date. He is

actually

> > > the one that caught the autism in my son at a sick visit. He has

> > > done everything that I have asked for since my sons diagnosis. I

> > > have to say that I do not yet know how he feels about vaccines

as my

> > > son is not due as of yet. He was vaccinated prior to the dx and has

> > > not had any due since. I ahve also heard great things about a

> > > pediatric group in the north hills called pediatric alliance? from

> > > other spectrum parents. try and google it. Hope that helps. natalie

> > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

You

should also write a letter to the editor of your local paper. I would focus on

parental rights to make medical choices for our children.

Becky

Re: Need help in PA

fast...please

Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 12:45:12 -0000

Thank

you everyone.

I would have posted again last night but I was exhausted and fell asleep

putting the baby

-snip-

[Guest guest]

Thank you . actually posed a question on autismlink for me and I

received an

e-mail from one women who mentioned the same group in the North Hills.

I actually called the office manager today of their group. I had no intention of

ever going

back, but I wanted them to know what he did to us after 12 years of trusting

them. He

denied ever telling me to go somewhere else and said that he " mentioned that I

might be

more comfortable if I were to seek out another doctor who does not feel as

strongly as

they do about vaccines. " She tld me that he came to her with this information

this

morning, a day later.

He also told her that I asked several questions about several vaccines,

suggesting that I

was refusing all of them. Ironically, one was a vaccine she has already received

twice. lol

So, she loked up our file and, low and behold, there it was. It was ridiculous.

In short, she told me that I " was not asked to leave and are welcome to stay

with us and

our group. We will keep providing medical care to your children. " Of course I am

not going

to do that, but what struck me was the complete turnaround in what she called " a

misunderstanding " between me and the doctor. I think he thought about it over

night and

realized he screwed up. Now they had to figure out a way out of it.

And THEN she added, " But, be informed that if you choose to stay with us, we

will not

allow you to use the spaced out schedule for your child's vaccines and will

expect you to

follow our schedule which is the same as printed by the CDC. "

Yeah, but it was just a MISUNDERSTANDING on my part.

Col

> > >

> > > I'm in Maine so can't help you with finding a doctor. I noticed

> you were

> > > trying to get a DT vaccine for your baby. I'm not sure they make

> a

> > > mercury free one. Holly Austin (aka kalebsrecovery on list) can

> tell you

> > > about her son's story with not getting the DTaP a second time

> because of

> > > seizures after in her son, but the DT contained thimerosal. I

> think he

> > > seized after that shot as well. I'll cc her this in case she

> misses this

> > > on list.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Her son is now autistic.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Becky

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Need help in PA fast...please

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Does anyone know where I can go to find a new Pediatrician? One

> that is

> > > flexible with

> > > vaccines? A website maybe?

> > >

> > > , I registered today with AutismLink hoping someone might

> help me

> > > there but I

> > > haven't gotten my ok to start posting yet.

> > >

> > > Some of you know already, I have a 6 month old. My daughter is

> 12 years

> > > old and my son

> > > (aspergers) is 11. I am not against vaccines entirely, but

> extremely

> > > cautious about some

> > > and certainly I don't want them all at once.

> > >

> > > I did get my daughter the Tdap recently because it helps to

> protect my 6

> > > month old and

> > > the ped told us that they were seeing cases of whooping cough in

> our

> > > area. I did, however,

> > > refuse the HPV.

> > >

> > > The baby is getting some vaccines but very slowly and one at a

> time. She

> > > has gotten 1

> > > DTaP, 1 Polio, 2 prevnar and 2 Hib. I spoke to Mark Geier at

> length

> > > about which to get and

> > > which to avoid, how to get them, etc.

> > >

> > > The baby had a reaction to the DTaP. Two days later, she went

> pale and

> > > cried nonstop for

> > > several hours. We called the doctor and were referred to

> children's

> > > hospital. They almost

> > > brought her into the ER, but she was not having seizures and

> finally

> > > fell asleep, exhausted.

> > > She showed no signs of anything the following day.

> > >

> > > I also spoke to Mark specifically about this since he knows a lot

> > > specifically about the DTP

> > > and DTaP.

> > >

> > > We have refused the pertussis component since then but did agree

> to give

> > > her the DT.

> > > They said they would have to get that for her.

> > >

> > > Today, I went in for her 6 month visit. She was due for a second

> polio

> > > vaccine today. The

> > > pediatrician, one my children have been seeing for 12 years,

> told me

> > > that they were not

> > > going to get the DT for her and that I could check with the

> county

> > > health department if I

> > > wanted. Further, unless I agreed to give her the DTaP (as they

> do not

> > > believe she had a

> > > reaction) and EVERY SINGLE VACCINE ON THE SCHEDULE, regardless

> if it is

> > > required for

> > > school or not, we can leave.

> > >

> > > Long story short...they booted us today because I did not want

> her to

> > > get the Pertussis

> > > again. The only other vaccines we even discussed in delaying or

> skipping

> > > was the Hep B to

> > > be skipped and delaying chicken pox as I would rather her get it

> on her

> > > own. I refused the

> > > HPV for my 12 year old several months ago.

> > >

> > > I checked, BTW, with the dept of health for PA and there is no

> notice of

> > > a whooping cough

> > > outbreak. I believe they were lying to us to force us into it.

> He told

> > > me that I don't have to

> > > agree with them, but that they will not treat my children unless

> they

> > > get every single

> > > vaccination recommended by the CDC. He said he cannot force me

> into the

> > > vaccines, so I

> > > have the choice of going elsewhere.

> > >

> > > Now I have a 6 month old, along with my older kids (including a

> son with

> > > a heart

> > > condition) and no pediatrician. If they get sick tomorrow, I

> have no

> > > where to go.

> > >

> > > Anyone know where I can find a doctor fast that will not give me

> the

> > > same grief? A website

> > > maybe that gives info about doctors?

> > >

> > > Col

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

,

Can you tell me which ones they were? You can e-mail me the answer if you are

uncomfortable with posting it.

It is funny that you mentioned the letter because the office manager said that

to me when

explaining that 'they were not actually asking me to leave'. She said, " We

haven't sent you

a letter discharging you as a patient. "

Well, since the doc didn't even tell her until this morning and I called, I

guess she didn't

get it into the mail before then.

Col

> >

> > Hi Col,

> >

> > May I ask what Pediatrician did that to you?? They are no longer

> > holding their oath to do no harm by leaving you without care! That

> > is absolutely outrageous! On another note, I use Sewickley Valley

> > Pediatrics. They have 4 offices. One in wexford by 79, one in

> > Sewickley Valley Hospital, one in Rochester and one in Moon. We

> > visit the wexford location and see Dr. Graff. He is not a DAN

> > doctor but he is pretty well informed and up to date. He is actually

> > the one that caught the autism in my son at a sick visit. He has

> > done everything that I have asked for since my sons diagnosis. I

> > have to say that I do not yet know how he feels about vaccines as my

> > son is not due as of yet. He was vaccinated prior to the dx and has

> > not had any due since. I ahve also heard great things about a

> > pediatric group in the north hills called pediatric alliance? from

> > other spectrum parents. try and google it. Hope that helps. natalie

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Wow...thanks for the info. Someone just e-mailed me that they are big on biomed

and

allow her to vaccinate as she sees fit.

Col

> > > >

> > > > Hi Col,

> > > >

> > > > May I ask what Pediatrician did that to you?? They are no longer

> > > > holding their oath to do no harm by leaving you without care! That

> > > > is absolutely outrageous! On another note, I use Sewickley Valley

> > > > Pediatrics. They have 4 offices. One in wexford by 79, one in

> > > > Sewickley Valley Hospital, one in Rochester and one in Moon. We

> > > > visit the wexford location and see Dr. Graff. He is not a DAN

> > > > doctor but he is pretty well informed and up to date. He is

> actually

> > > > the one that caught the autism in my son at a sick visit. He has

> > > > done everything that I have asked for since my sons diagnosis. I

> > > > have to say that I do not yet know how he feels about vaccines

> as my

> > > > son is not due as of yet. He was vaccinated prior to the dx and has

> > > > not had any due since. I ahve also heard great things about a

> > > > pediatric group in the north hills called pediatric alliance? from

> > > > other spectrum parents. try and google it. Hope that helps. natalie

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

The PA in the North Hills is okay -- but others are not. Dr. Coppula

from the North Hills Pediatric Alliance will refer to our local " dan "

doctor and will not give you a hard time if you don't vaccinate.

However, the PA in the south hills is the one that booted several of

our members for refusal to vaccinate.

Glad I could help. Dr. Coppula's office is across from the Autism

Center, stop in and say hi.

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi Col,

> > > > >

> > > > > May I ask what Pediatrician did that to you?? They are no

longer

> > > > > holding their oath to do no harm by leaving you without

care! That

> > > > > is absolutely outrageous! On another note, I use Sewickley

Valley

> > > > > Pediatrics. They have 4 offices. One in wexford by 79, one in

> > > > > Sewickley Valley Hospital, one in Rochester and one in Moon. We

> > > > > visit the wexford location and see Dr. Graff. He is not a DAN

> > > > > doctor but he is pretty well informed and up to date. He is

> > actually

> > > > > the one that caught the autism in my son at a sick visit. He

has

> > > > > done everything that I have asked for since my sons

diagnosis. I

> > > > > have to say that I do not yet know how he feels about vaccines

> > as my

> > > > > son is not due as of yet. He was vaccinated prior to the dx

and has

> > > > > not had any due since. I ahve also heard great things about a

> > > > > pediatric group in the north hills called pediatric

alliance? from

> > > > > other spectrum parents. try and google it. Hope that helps.

natalie

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Where are you??

>

> Does anyone know where I can go to find a new Pediatrician? One

that is flexible with

> vaccines? A website maybe?

>

> , I registered today with AutismLink hoping someone might help

me there but I

> haven't gotten my ok to start posting yet.

>

> Some of you know already, I have a 6 month old. My daughter is 12

years old and my son

> (aspergers) is 11. I am not against vaccines entirely, but

extremely cautious about some

> and certainly I don't want them all at once.

>

> I did get my daughter the Tdap recently because it helps to protect

my 6 month old and

> the ped told us that they were seeing cases of whooping cough in

our area. I did, however,

> refuse the HPV.

>

> The baby is getting some vaccines but very slowly and one at a

time. She has gotten 1

> DTaP, 1 Polio, 2 prevnar and 2 Hib. I spoke to Mark Geier at length

about which to get and

> which to avoid, how to get them, etc.

>

> The baby had a reaction to the DTaP. Two days later, she went pale

and cried nonstop for

> several hours. We called the doctor and were referred to children's

hospital. They almost

> brought her into the ER, but she was not having seizures and

finally fell asleep, exhausted.

> She showed no signs of anything the following day.

>

> I also spoke to Mark specifically about this since he knows a lot

specifically about the DTP

> and DTaP.

>

> We have refused the pertussis component since then but did agree to

give her the DT.

> They said they would have to get that for her.

>

> Today, I went in for her 6 month visit. She was due for a second

polio vaccine today. The

> pediatrician, one my children have been seeing for 12 years, told

me that they were not

> going to get the DT for her and that I could check with the county

health department if I

> wanted. Further, unless I agreed to give her the DTaP (as they do

not believe she had a

> reaction) and EVERY SINGLE VACCINE ON THE SCHEDULE, regardless if

it is required for

> school or not, we can leave.

>

> Long story short...they booted us today because I did not want her

to get the Pertussis

> again. The only other vaccines we even discussed in delaying or

skipping was the Hep B to

> be skipped and delaying chicken pox as I would rather her get it on

her own. I refused the

> HPV for my 12 year old several months ago.

>

> I checked, BTW, with the dept of health for PA and there is no

notice of a whooping cough

> outbreak. I believe they were lying to us to force us into it. He

told me that I don't have to

> agree with them, but that they will not treat my children unless

they get every single

> vaccination recommended by the CDC. He said he cannot force me into

the vaccines, so I

> have the choice of going elsewhere.

>

> Now I have a 6 month old, along with my older kids (including a son

with a heart

> condition) and no pediatrician. If they get sick tomorrow, I have

no where to go.

>

> Anyone know where I can find a doctor fast that will not give me

the same grief? A website

> maybe that gives info about doctors?

>

> Col

>

[Guest guest]

Col,

Why must it be a Ped? Since I was called crazy and a nutcase by my

son's last Ped,for not wanting to dose up my kid with Ritalin and

treat his problems via nutrition, I have used a wonderful GP. How did

I find him? I have a friend who is a medical transcriptionist. She

transcribes all of his Doctor's notes into the patient files. She

knows whether a doctor listens to his patients or not. If you know of

anyone who does this work, or have a friend who knows someone, it is

a great way to get a referrral to an open minded doc.

Houston Tx

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hi Col,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > May I ask what Pediatrician did that to you?? They are

no

> > longer

> > > > > > > holding their oath to do no harm by leaving you without

> > care! That

> > > > > > > is absolutely outrageous! On another note, I use

Sewickley

> > Valley

> > > > > > > Pediatrics. They have 4 offices. One in wexford by 79,

one in

> > > > > > > Sewickley Valley Hospital, one in Rochester and one in

Moon. We

> > > > > > > visit the wexford location and see Dr. Graff. He is

not a DAN

> > > > > > > doctor but he is pretty well informed and up to date.

He is

> > > > actually

> > > > > > > the one that caught the autism in my son at a sick

visit. He

> > has

> > > > > > > done everything that I have asked for since my sons

> > diagnosis. I

> > > > > > > have to say that I do not yet know how he feels about

vaccines

> > > > as my

> > > > > > > son is not due as of yet. He was vaccinated prior to

the dx

> > and has

> > > > > > > not had any due since. I ahve also heard great things

about a

> > > > > > > pediatric group in the north hills called pediatric

> > alliance? from

> > > > > > > other spectrum parents. try and google it. Hope that

helps.

> > natalie

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

,

That is a great suggestion! Thank you. I will ask around and see if I can't find

someone.

My own doctor is a GP. I have stuck with her for years for several reasons.

1) She always says she is sorry if she missed something or makes a mistake. She

doesn't

care about lawsuits as much as she believes in us trusting her. She often says,

" We are

practicing medicine. That means we are doing just that...practicing and forever

learning. "

No god-like know it all personality from her.

2) After 25 years, she knows me better than most. She knows that I avoid all

medications

unless absolutely neccesary, that I don't want any new medications until they

have been on

the market for at least 5 years, (I learned my lesson the hard way through

vioxx, thank

you) and she knows my concerns about vaccines, as I have reacted badly to every

one I

was ever given.

3) She completely trust my instincts. At the age of 34, I had a gut feeling I

had breast

cancer. I had no lump, no symptoms at all, but I knew it. She trusted my

instinct and sent

me for a mammogram. I was diagnosed that day, 6 years ago.

For now, I believe my kids are in good hands. I would prefer a pediatrician

close to home,

as my doctor is a 25 minute ride away. My son's heart condition forces me to

want a closer

doctor.

Thanks again for the suggestion, though.

Col

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Hi Col,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > May I ask what Pediatrician did that to you?? They are

> no

> > > longer

> > > > > > > > holding their oath to do no harm by leaving you without

> > > care! That

> > > > > > > > is absolutely outrageous! On another note, I use

> Sewickley

> > > Valley

> > > > > > > > Pediatrics. They have 4 offices. One in wexford by 79,

> one in

> > > > > > > > Sewickley Valley Hospital, one in Rochester and one in

> Moon. We

> > > > > > > > visit the wexford location and see Dr. Graff. He is

> not a DAN

> > > > > > > > doctor but he is pretty well informed and up to date.

> He is

> > > > > actually

> > > > > > > > the one that caught the autism in my son at a sick

> visit. He

> > > has

> > > > > > > > done everything that I have asked for since my sons

> > > diagnosis. I

> > > > > > > > have to say that I do not yet know how he feels about

> vaccines

> > > > > as my

> > > > > > > > son is not due as of yet. He was vaccinated prior to

> the dx

> > > and has

> > > > > > > > not had any due since. I ahve also heard great things

> about a

> > > > > > > > pediatric group in the north hills called pediatric

> > > alliance? from

> > > > > > > > other spectrum parents. try and google it. Hope that

> helps.

> > > natalie

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>