Re: Need help in PA fast...please

May 30, 2007

What part of PA are you in? I'll help you find someone -- email me at

cindy @ autismlink . com (minus the spaces)

>

> Does anyone know where I can go to find a new Pediatrician? One that

is flexible with

> vaccines? A website maybe?

>

> , I registered today with AutismLink hoping someone might help

me there but I

> haven't gotten my ok to start posting yet.

>

> Some of you know already, I have a 6 month old. My daughter is 12

years old and my son

> (aspergers) is 11. I am not against vaccines entirely, but extremely

cautious about some

> and certainly I don't want them all at once.

>

> I did get my daughter the Tdap recently because it helps to protect

my 6 month old and

> the ped told us that they were seeing cases of whooping cough in our

area. I did, however,

> refuse the HPV.

>

> The baby is getting some vaccines but very slowly and one at a time.

She has gotten 1

> DTaP, 1 Polio, 2 prevnar and 2 Hib. I spoke to Mark Geier at length

about which to get and

> which to avoid, how to get them, etc.

>

> The baby had a reaction to the DTaP. Two days later, she went pale

and cried nonstop for

> several hours. We called the doctor and were referred to children's

hospital. They almost

> brought her into the ER, but she was not having seizures and finally

fell asleep, exhausted.

> She showed no signs of anything the following day.

>

> I also spoke to Mark specifically about this since he knows a lot

specifically about the DTP

> and DTaP.

>

> We have refused the pertussis component since then but did agree to

give her the DT.

> They said they would have to get that for her.

>

> Today, I went in for her 6 month visit. She was due for a second

polio vaccine today. The

> pediatrician, one my children have been seeing for 12 years, told me

that they were not

> going to get the DT for her and that I could check with the county

health department if I

> wanted. Further, unless I agreed to give her the DTaP (as they do

not believe she had a

> reaction) and EVERY SINGLE VACCINE ON THE SCHEDULE, regardless if it

is required for

> school or not, we can leave.

>

> Long story short...they booted us today because I did not want her

to get the Pertussis

> again. The only other vaccines we even discussed in delaying or

skipping was the Hep B to

> be skipped and delaying chicken pox as I would rather her get it on

her own. I refused the

> HPV for my 12 year old several months ago.

>

> I checked, BTW, with the dept of health for PA and there is no

notice of a whooping cough

> outbreak. I believe they were lying to us to force us into it. He

told me that I don't have to

> agree with them, but that they will not treat my children unless

they get every single

> vaccination recommended by the CDC. He said he cannot force me into

the vaccines, so I

> have the choice of going elsewhere.

>

> Now I have a 6 month old, along with my older kids (including a son

with a heart

> condition) and no pediatrician. If they get sick tomorrow, I have no

where to go.

>

> Anyone know where I can find a doctor fast that will not give me the

same grief? A website

> maybe that gives info about doctors?

>

> Col

>

May 30, 2007

What part of PA are you in? I'll help you find someone -- email me at

cindy @ autismlink . com (minus the spaces)

>

> Does anyone know where I can go to find a new Pediatrician? One that

is flexible with

> vaccines? A website maybe?

>

> , I registered today with AutismLink hoping someone might help

me there but I

> haven't gotten my ok to start posting yet.

>

> Some of you know already, I have a 6 month old. My daughter is 12

years old and my son

> (aspergers) is 11. I am not against vaccines entirely, but extremely

cautious about some

> and certainly I don't want them all at once.

>

> I did get my daughter the Tdap recently because it helps to protect

my 6 month old and

> the ped told us that they were seeing cases of whooping cough in our

area. I did, however,

> refuse the HPV.

>

> The baby is getting some vaccines but very slowly and one at a time.

She has gotten 1

> DTaP, 1 Polio, 2 prevnar and 2 Hib. I spoke to Mark Geier at length

about which to get and

> which to avoid, how to get them, etc.

>

> The baby had a reaction to the DTaP. Two days later, she went pale

and cried nonstop for

> several hours. We called the doctor and were referred to children's

hospital. They almost

> brought her into the ER, but she was not having seizures and finally

fell asleep, exhausted.

> She showed no signs of anything the following day.

>

> I also spoke to Mark specifically about this since he knows a lot

specifically about the DTP

> and DTaP.

>

> We have refused the pertussis component since then but did agree to

give her the DT.

> They said they would have to get that for her.

>

> Today, I went in for her 6 month visit. She was due for a second

polio vaccine today. The

> pediatrician, one my children have been seeing for 12 years, told me

that they were not

> going to get the DT for her and that I could check with the county

health department if I

> wanted. Further, unless I agreed to give her the DTaP (as they do

not believe she had a

> reaction) and EVERY SINGLE VACCINE ON THE SCHEDULE, regardless if it

is required for

> school or not, we can leave.

>

> Long story short...they booted us today because I did not want her

to get the Pertussis

> again. The only other vaccines we even discussed in delaying or

skipping was the Hep B to

> be skipped and delaying chicken pox as I would rather her get it on

her own. I refused the

> HPV for my 12 year old several months ago.

>

> I checked, BTW, with the dept of health for PA and there is no

notice of a whooping cough

> outbreak. I believe they were lying to us to force us into it. He

told me that I don't have to

> agree with them, but that they will not treat my children unless

they get every single

> vaccination recommended by the CDC. He said he cannot force me into

the vaccines, so I

> have the choice of going elsewhere.

>

> Now I have a 6 month old, along with my older kids (including a son

with a heart

> condition) and no pediatrician. If they get sick tomorrow, I have no

where to go.

>

> Anyone know where I can find a doctor fast that will not give me the

same grief? A website

> maybe that gives info about doctors?

>

> Col

>

May 30, 2007

I’m

in Maine so can’t help you with finding a doctor. I noticed you were

trying to get a DT vaccine for your baby. I’m not sure they make a

mercury free one. Holly Austin (aka kalebsrecovery on list) can tell you about

her son’s story with not getting the DTaP a second time because of

seizures after in her son, but the DT contained thimerosal. I think he seized

after that shot as well. I’ll cc her this in case she misses this on

list.

Her son is now autistic.

Becky

Need help in PA

fast...please

Does anyone know where I can go to find a new

Pediatrician? One that is flexible with

vaccines? A website maybe?

, I registered today with AutismLink hoping someone might help me there

but I

haven't gotten my ok to start posting yet.

Some of you know already, I have a 6 month old. My daughter is 12 years old and

my son

(aspergers) is 11. I am not against vaccines entirely, but extremely cautious

about some

and certainly I don't want them all at once.

I did get my daughter the Tdap recently because it helps to protect my 6 month

old and

the ped told us that they were seeing cases of whooping cough in our area. I

did, however,

refuse the HPV.

The baby is getting some vaccines but very slowly and one at a time. She has

gotten 1

DTaP, 1 Polio, 2 prevnar and 2 Hib. I spoke to Mark Geier at length about which

to get and

which to avoid, how to get them, etc.

The baby had a reaction to the DTaP. Two days later, she went pale and cried

nonstop for

several hours. We called the doctor and were referred to children's hospital.

They almost

brought her into the ER, but she was not having seizures and finally fell

asleep, exhausted.

She showed no signs of anything the following day.

I also spoke to Mark specifically about this since he knows a lot specifically

about the DTP

and DTaP.

We have refused the pertussis component since then but did agree to give her

the DT.

They said they would have to get that for her.

Today, I went in for her 6 month visit. She was due for a second polio vaccine

today. The

pediatrician, one my children have been seeing for 12 years, told me that they

were not

going to get the DT for her and that I could check with the county health

department if I

wanted. Further, unless I agreed to give her the DTaP (as they do not believe

she had a

reaction) and EVERY SINGLE VACCINE ON THE SCHEDULE, regardless if it is

required for

school or not, we can leave.

Long story short...they booted us today because I did not want her to get the

Pertussis

again. The only other vaccines we even discussed in delaying or skipping was

the Hep B to

be skipped and delaying chicken pox as I would rather her get it on her own. I

refused the

HPV for my 12 year old several months ago.

I checked, BTW, with the dept of health for PA and there is no notice of a

whooping cough

outbreak. I believe they were lying to us to force us into it. He told me that

I don't have to

agree with them, but that they will not treat my children unless they get every

single

vaccination recommended by the CDC. He said he cannot force me into the

vaccines, so I

have the choice of going elsewhere.

Now I have a 6 month old, along with my older kids (including a son with a

heart

condition) and no pediatrician. If they get sick tomorrow, I have no where to

go.

Anyone know where I can find a doctor fast that will not give me the same

grief? A website

maybe that gives info about doctors?

Col

May 30, 2007

I’m

in Maine so can’t help you with finding a doctor. I noticed you were

trying to get a DT vaccine for your baby. I’m not sure they make a

mercury free one. Holly Austin (aka kalebsrecovery on list) can tell you about

her son’s story with not getting the DTaP a second time because of

seizures after in her son, but the DT contained thimerosal. I think he seized

after that shot as well. I’ll cc her this in case she misses this on

list.

Her son is now autistic.

Becky

Need help in PA

fast...please

Does anyone know where I can go to find a new

Pediatrician? One that is flexible with

vaccines? A website maybe?

, I registered today with AutismLink hoping someone might help me there

but I

haven't gotten my ok to start posting yet.

Some of you know already, I have a 6 month old. My daughter is 12 years old and

my son

(aspergers) is 11. I am not against vaccines entirely, but extremely cautious

about some

and certainly I don't want them all at once.

I did get my daughter the Tdap recently because it helps to protect my 6 month

old and

the ped told us that they were seeing cases of whooping cough in our area. I

did, however,

refuse the HPV.

The baby is getting some vaccines but very slowly and one at a time. She has

gotten 1

DTaP, 1 Polio, 2 prevnar and 2 Hib. I spoke to Mark Geier at length about which

to get and

which to avoid, how to get them, etc.

The baby had a reaction to the DTaP. Two days later, she went pale and cried

nonstop for

several hours. We called the doctor and were referred to children's hospital.

They almost

brought her into the ER, but she was not having seizures and finally fell

asleep, exhausted.

She showed no signs of anything the following day.

I also spoke to Mark specifically about this since he knows a lot specifically

about the DTP

and DTaP.

We have refused the pertussis component since then but did agree to give her

the DT.

They said they would have to get that for her.

Today, I went in for her 6 month visit. She was due for a second polio vaccine

today. The

pediatrician, one my children have been seeing for 12 years, told me that they

were not

going to get the DT for her and that I could check with the county health

department if I

wanted. Further, unless I agreed to give her the DTaP (as they do not believe

she had a

reaction) and EVERY SINGLE VACCINE ON THE SCHEDULE, regardless if it is

required for

school or not, we can leave.

Long story short...they booted us today because I did not want her to get the

Pertussis

again. The only other vaccines we even discussed in delaying or skipping was

the Hep B to

be skipped and delaying chicken pox as I would rather her get it on her own. I

refused the

HPV for my 12 year old several months ago.

I checked, BTW, with the dept of health for PA and there is no notice of a

whooping cough

outbreak. I believe they were lying to us to force us into it. He told me that

I don't have to

agree with them, but that they will not treat my children unless they get every

single

vaccination recommended by the CDC. He said he cannot force me into the

vaccines, so I

have the choice of going elsewhere.

Now I have a 6 month old, along with my older kids (including a son with a

heart

condition) and no pediatrician. If they get sick tomorrow, I have no where to

go.

Anyone know where I can find a doctor fast that will not give me the same

grief? A website

maybe that gives info about doctors?

Col

May 30, 2007

Col I emailed you privately but in case it gets eaten

by -ie's spam folder, please contact me.

There are two docs not far from me that are biomed

guys, and are considered " family practice " type docs.

They see children of all ages.

Not sure where in PA you are located, but I'd be more

than happy to help.

Sophia

--- Becky Grant-Widen <bgrantwiden@...>

wrote:

> I'm in Maine so can't help you with finding a

> doctor. I noticed you were

> trying to get a DT vaccine for your baby. I'm not

> sure they make a

> mercury free one. Holly Austin (aka kalebsrecovery

> on list) can tell you

> about her son's story with not getting the DTaP a

> second time because of

> seizures after in her son, but the DT contained

> thimerosal. I think he

> seized after that shot as well. I'll cc her this in

> case she misses this

> on list.

>

> Her son is now autistic.

>

> Becky

>

> Need help in PA fast...please

>

> Does anyone know where I can go to find a new

> Pediatrician? One that is

> flexible with

> vaccines? A website maybe?

>

> , I registered today with AutismLink hoping

> someone might help me

> there but I

> haven't gotten my ok to start posting yet.

>

> Some of you know already, I have a 6 month old. My

> daughter is 12 years

> old and my son

> (aspergers) is 11. I am not against vaccines

> entirely, but extremely

> cautious about some

> and certainly I don't want them all at once.

>

> I did get my daughter the Tdap recently because it

> helps to protect my 6

> month old and

> the ped told us that they were seeing cases of

> whooping cough in our

> area. I did, however,

> refuse the HPV.

>

> The baby is getting some vaccines but very slowly

> and one at a time. She

> has gotten 1

> DTaP, 1 Polio, 2 prevnar and 2 Hib. I spoke to Mark

> Geier at length

> about which to get and

> which to avoid, how to get them, etc.

>

> The baby had a reaction to the DTaP. Two days later,

> she went pale and

> cried nonstop for

> several hours. We called the doctor and were

> referred to children's

> hospital. They almost

> brought her into the ER, but she was not having

> seizures and finally

> fell asleep, exhausted.

> She showed no signs of anything the following day.

>

> I also spoke to Mark specifically about this since

> he knows a lot

> specifically about the DTP

> and DTaP.

>

> We have refused the pertussis component since then

> but did agree to give

> her the DT.

> They said they would have to get that for her.

>

> Today, I went in for her 6 month visit. She was due

> for a second polio

> vaccine today. The

> pediatrician, one my children have been seeing for

> 12 years, told me

> that they were not

> going to get the DT for her and that I could check

> with the county

> health department if I

> wanted. Further, unless I agreed to give her the

> DTaP (as they do not

> believe she had a

> reaction) and EVERY SINGLE VACCINE ON THE SCHEDULE,

> regardless if it is

> required for

> school or not, we can leave.

>

> Long story short...they booted us today because I

> did not want her to

> get the Pertussis

> again. The only other vaccines we even discussed in

> delaying or skipping

> was the Hep B to

> be skipped and delaying chicken pox as I would

> rather her get it on her

> own. I refused the

> HPV for my 12 year old several months ago.

>

> I checked, BTW, with the dept of health for PA and

> there is no notice of

> a whooping cough

> outbreak. I believe they were lying to us to force

> us into it. He told

> me that I don't have to

> agree with them, but that they will not treat my

> children unless they

> get every single

> vaccination recommended by the CDC. He said he

> cannot force me into the

> vaccines, so I

> have the choice of going elsewhere.

>

> Now I have a 6 month old, along with my older kids

> (including a son with

> a heart

> condition) and no pediatrician. If they get sick

> tomorrow, I have no

> where to go.

>

> Anyone know where I can find a doctor fast that will

> not give me the

> same grief? A website

> maybe that gives info about doctors?

>

> Col

>

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May 30, 2007

Col I emailed you privately but in case it gets eaten

by -ie's spam folder, please contact me.

There are two docs not far from me that are biomed

guys, and are considered " family practice " type docs.

They see children of all ages.

Not sure where in PA you are located, but I'd be more

than happy to help.

Sophia

--- Becky Grant-Widen <bgrantwiden@...>

wrote:

> I'm in Maine so can't help you with finding a

> doctor. I noticed you were

> trying to get a DT vaccine for your baby. I'm not

> sure they make a

> mercury free one. Holly Austin (aka kalebsrecovery

> on list) can tell you

> about her son's story with not getting the DTaP a

> second time because of

> seizures after in her son, but the DT contained

> thimerosal. I think he

> seized after that shot as well. I'll cc her this in

> case she misses this

> on list.

>

> Her son is now autistic.

>

> Becky

>

> Need help in PA fast...please

>

> Does anyone know where I can go to find a new

> Pediatrician? One that is

> flexible with

> vaccines? A website maybe?

>

> , I registered today with AutismLink hoping

> someone might help me

> there but I

> haven't gotten my ok to start posting yet.

>

> Some of you know already, I have a 6 month old. My

> daughter is 12 years

> old and my son

> (aspergers) is 11. I am not against vaccines

> entirely, but extremely

> cautious about some

> and certainly I don't want them all at once.

>

> I did get my daughter the Tdap recently because it

> helps to protect my 6

> month old and

> the ped told us that they were seeing cases of

> whooping cough in our

> area. I did, however,

> refuse the HPV.

>

> The baby is getting some vaccines but very slowly

> and one at a time. She

> has gotten 1

> DTaP, 1 Polio, 2 prevnar and 2 Hib. I spoke to Mark

> Geier at length

> about which to get and

> which to avoid, how to get them, etc.

>

> The baby had a reaction to the DTaP. Two days later,

> she went pale and

> cried nonstop for

> several hours. We called the doctor and were

> referred to children's

> hospital. They almost

> brought her into the ER, but she was not having

> seizures and finally

> fell asleep, exhausted.

> She showed no signs of anything the following day.

>

> I also spoke to Mark specifically about this since

> he knows a lot

> specifically about the DTP

> and DTaP.

>

> We have refused the pertussis component since then

> but did agree to give

> her the DT.

> They said they would have to get that for her.

>

> Today, I went in for her 6 month visit. She was due

> for a second polio

> vaccine today. The

> pediatrician, one my children have been seeing for

> 12 years, told me

> that they were not

> going to get the DT for her and that I could check

> with the county

> health department if I

> wanted. Further, unless I agreed to give her the

> DTaP (as they do not

> believe she had a

> reaction) and EVERY SINGLE VACCINE ON THE SCHEDULE,

> regardless if it is

> required for

> school or not, we can leave.

>

> Long story short...they booted us today because I

> did not want her to

> get the Pertussis

> again. The only other vaccines we even discussed in

> delaying or skipping

> was the Hep B to

> be skipped and delaying chicken pox as I would

> rather her get it on her

> own. I refused the

> HPV for my 12 year old several months ago.

>

> I checked, BTW, with the dept of health for PA and

> there is no notice of

> a whooping cough

> outbreak. I believe they were lying to us to force

> us into it. He told

> me that I don't have to

> agree with them, but that they will not treat my

> children unless they

> get every single

> vaccination recommended by the CDC. He said he

> cannot force me into the

> vaccines, so I

> have the choice of going elsewhere.

>

> Now I have a 6 month old, along with my older kids

> (including a son with

> a heart

> condition) and no pediatrician. If they get sick

> tomorrow, I have no

> where to go.

>

> Anyone know where I can find a doctor fast that will

> not give me the

> same grief? A website

> maybe that gives info about doctors?

>

> Col

>

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I totally agree with Becky. It was after whatever version of DPT/DTaP that our son had that threw him into seizures. It was this that added to the extra hours at night that he wouldn't sleep (up watching TinkyWinky at 2:00a.m.).Have a gander at Dr. Tim O'Shea's book which has recently been updated: Sanctity of Human Blood: Vaccination is Not Immunization.He does workshops all over the country. Check it out at:oshea@...RoxSophia <sophya_lauren@...> wrote: Col I emailed you privately but in case it gets eaten by -ie's spam folder, please contact me. There are two docs not far from me that are biomed guys, and are considered "family practice" type docs. They see children of all ages. Not sure where in PA you are located, but I'd be more than happy to help. Sophia --- Becky Grant-Widen <bgrantwidenbeeline-online (DOT) net> wrote: > I'm in Maine so can't help you with finding a > doctor. I noticed you were > trying to get a DT vaccine for your baby. I'm not > sure they make a > mercury free one. Holly Austin (aka kalebsrecovery > on list) can tell you > about her son's story with not getting the DTaP a > second time because of > seizures after in her son, but the DT contained > thimerosal. I think he > seized after

that shot as well. I'll cc her this in > case she misses this > on list. > > > > Her son is now autistic. > > > > Becky > > > > Need help in PA fast...please > > > > Does anyone know where I can go to find a new > Pediatrician? One that is > flexible with > vaccines? A website maybe? > > , I registered today with AutismLink hoping > someone might help me > there but I >

haven't gotten my ok to start posting yet. > > Some of you know already, I have a 6 month old. My > daughter is 12 years > old and my son > (aspergers) is 11. I am not against vaccines > entirely, but extremely > cautious about some > and certainly I don't want them all at once. > > I did get my daughter the Tdap recently because it > helps to protect my 6 > month old and > the ped told us that they were seeing cases of > whooping cough in our > area. I did, however, > refuse the HPV. > > The baby is getting some vaccines but very slowly > and one at a time. She > has gotten 1 > DTaP, 1 Polio, 2 prevnar and 2 Hib. I spoke to Mark > Geier at length > about which to get and > which to avoid, how to get them, etc. > > The baby had a reaction to the DTaP. Two days later, > she

went pale and > cried nonstop for > several hours. We called the doctor and were > referred to children's > hospital. They almost > brought her into the ER, but she was not having > seizures and finally > fell asleep, exhausted. > She showed no signs of anything the following day. > > I also spoke to Mark specifically about this since > he knows a lot > specifically about the DTP > and DTaP. > > We have refused the pertussis component since then > but did agree to give > her the DT. > They said they would have to get that for her. > > Today, I went in for her 6 month visit. She was due > for a second polio > vaccine today. The > pediatrician, one my children have been seeing for > 12 years, told me > that they were not > going to get the DT for her and that I could check >

with the county > health department if I > wanted. Further, unless I agreed to give her the > DTaP (as they do not > believe she had a > reaction) and EVERY SINGLE VACCINE ON THE SCHEDULE, > regardless if it is > required for > school or not, we can leave. > > Long story short...they booted us today because I > did not want her to > get the Pertussis > again. The only other vaccines we even discussed in > delaying or skipping > was the Hep B to > be skipped and delaying chicken pox as I would > rather her get it on her > own. I refused the > HPV for my 12 year old several months ago. > > I checked, BTW, with the dept of health for PA and > there is no notice of > a whooping cough > outbreak. I believe they were lying to us to force > us into it. He told > me that I don't have to

> agree with them, but that they will not treat my > children unless they > get every single > vaccination recommended by the CDC. He said he > cannot force me into the > vaccines, so I > have the choice of going elsewhere. > > Now I have a 6 month old, along with my older kids > (including a son with > a heart > condition) and no pediatrician. If they get sick > tomorrow, I have no > where to go. > > Anyone know where I can find a doctor fast that will > not give me the > same grief? A website > maybe that gives info about doctors? > > Col > > > > __________________________________________________________ It's here! Your new message! Get new email alerts with the free Toolbar. http://tools.search./toolbar/features/mail/

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May 30, 2007

I totally agree with Becky. It was after whatever version of DPT/DTaP that our son had that threw him into seizures. It was this that added to the extra hours at night that he wouldn't sleep (up watching TinkyWinky at 2:00a.m.).Have a gander at Dr. Tim O'Shea's book which has recently been updated: Sanctity of Human Blood: Vaccination is Not Immunization.He does workshops all over the country. Check it out at:oshea@...RoxSophia <sophya_lauren@...> wrote: Col I emailed you privately but in case it gets eaten by -ie's spam folder, please contact me. There are two docs not far from me that are biomed guys, and are considered "family practice" type docs. They see children of all ages. Not sure where in PA you are located, but I'd be more than happy to help. Sophia --- Becky Grant-Widen <bgrantwidenbeeline-online (DOT) net> wrote: > I'm in Maine so can't help you with finding a > doctor. I noticed you were > trying to get a DT vaccine for your baby. I'm not > sure they make a > mercury free one. Holly Austin (aka kalebsrecovery > on list) can tell you > about her son's story with not getting the DTaP a > second time because of > seizures after in her son, but the DT contained > thimerosal. I think he > seized after

that shot as well. I'll cc her this in > case she misses this > on list. > > > > Her son is now autistic. > > > > Becky > > > > Need help in PA fast...please > > > > Does anyone know where I can go to find a new > Pediatrician? One that is > flexible with > vaccines? A website maybe? > > , I registered today with AutismLink hoping > someone might help me > there but I >

haven't gotten my ok to start posting yet. > > Some of you know already, I have a 6 month old. My > daughter is 12 years > old and my son > (aspergers) is 11. I am not against vaccines > entirely, but extremely > cautious about some > and certainly I don't want them all at once. > > I did get my daughter the Tdap recently because it > helps to protect my 6 > month old and > the ped told us that they were seeing cases of > whooping cough in our > area. I did, however, > refuse the HPV. > > The baby is getting some vaccines but very slowly > and one at a time. She > has gotten 1 > DTaP, 1 Polio, 2 prevnar and 2 Hib. I spoke to Mark > Geier at length > about which to get and > which to avoid, how to get them, etc. > > The baby had a reaction to the DTaP. Two days later, > she

went pale and > cried nonstop for > several hours. We called the doctor and were > referred to children's > hospital. They almost > brought her into the ER, but she was not having > seizures and finally > fell asleep, exhausted. > She showed no signs of anything the following day. > > I also spoke to Mark specifically about this since > he knows a lot > specifically about the DTP > and DTaP. > > We have refused the pertussis component since then > but did agree to give > her the DT. > They said they would have to get that for her. > > Today, I went in for her 6 month visit. She was due > for a second polio > vaccine today. The > pediatrician, one my children have been seeing for > 12 years, told me > that they were not > going to get the DT for her and that I could check >

with the county > health department if I > wanted. Further, unless I agreed to give her the > DTaP (as they do not > believe she had a > reaction) and EVERY SINGLE VACCINE ON THE SCHEDULE, > regardless if it is > required for > school or not, we can leave. > > Long story short...they booted us today because I > did not want her to > get the Pertussis > again. The only other vaccines we even discussed in > delaying or skipping > was the Hep B to > be skipped and delaying chicken pox as I would > rather her get it on her > own. I refused the > HPV for my 12 year old several months ago. > > I checked, BTW, with the dept of health for PA and > there is no notice of > a whooping cough > outbreak. I believe they were lying to us to force > us into it. He told > me that I don't have to

> agree with them, but that they will not treat my > children unless they > get every single > vaccination recommended by the CDC. He said he > cannot force me into the > vaccines, so I > have the choice of going elsewhere. > > Now I have a 6 month old, along with my older kids > (including a son with > a heart > condition) and no pediatrician. If they get sick > tomorrow, I have no > where to go. > > Anyone know where I can find a doctor fast that will > not give me the > same grief? A website > maybe that gives info about doctors? > > Col > > > > __________________________________________________________ It's here! Your new message! Get new email alerts with the free Toolbar. http://tools.search./toolbar/features/mail/

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May 30, 2007

Col,

You need a word of mouth recommendation. If no one from the list

here has one, google for a group with your hometown name,

" parenting " , and maybe a few other neutral words, and ask on the

local list. Or see if a PA DAN doctor can give you a primary care

doctor's name. You can always find a family doctor, and they tend to

be way less dogmatic about the vaccine issue.

When you are resituated, don't forget to report that b*****d to the

state medical board, and include the AAP policy that prohibits just

this sort of behavior.

May 30, 2007

Col,

You need a word of mouth recommendation. If no one from the list

here has one, google for a group with your hometown name,

" parenting " , and maybe a few other neutral words, and ask on the

local list. Or see if a PA DAN doctor can give you a primary care

doctor's name. You can always find a family doctor, and they tend to

be way less dogmatic about the vaccine issue.

When you are resituated, don't forget to report that b*****d to the

state medical board, and include the AAP policy that prohibits just

this sort of behavior.

May 30, 2007

What part of Pa?

I saw Dr. in Lansdale. He was GP and DAN. I was very happy with him.

Re: Need help in PA fast...please

Col,You need a word of mouth recommendation. If no one from the list here has one, google for a group with your hometown name, "parenting", and maybe a few other neutral words, and ask on the local list. Or see if a PA DAN doctor can give you a primary care doctor's name. You can always find a family doctor, and they tend to be way less dogmatic about the vaccine issue.When you are resituated, don't forget to report that b*****d to the state medical board, and include the AAP policy that prohibits just this sort of behavior.

May 30, 2007

What part of Pa?

I saw Dr. in Lansdale. He was GP and DAN. I was very happy with him.

Re: Need help in PA fast...please

Col,You need a word of mouth recommendation. If no one from the list here has one, google for a group with your hometown name, "parenting", and maybe a few other neutral words, and ask on the local list. Or see if a PA DAN doctor can give you a primary care doctor's name. You can always find a family doctor, and they tend to be way less dogmatic about the vaccine issue.When you are resituated, don't forget to report that b*****d to the state medical board, and include the AAP policy that prohibits just this sort of behavior.

May 30, 2007

Dr. Larry is outstanding. Sophia Bradley <pete@...> wrote: What part of Pa? I saw Dr. in Lansdale. He was GP and DAN. I was very happy with him. Re: Need help in PA fast...please Col,You need a word of mouth recommendation. If no one from the list here has one, google for a group with your hometown name, "parenting", and maybe a few other neutral words, and ask on the local list. Or see if a PA DAN doctor can give you a primary care doctor's name. You can always find a family doctor, and they tend to be way less dogmatic about the

vaccine issue.When you are resituated, don't forget to report that b*****d to the state medical board, and include the AAP policy that prohibits just this sort of behavior.

May 30, 2007

Dr. Larry is outstanding. Sophia Bradley <pete@...> wrote: What part of Pa? I saw Dr. in Lansdale. He was GP and DAN. I was very happy with him. Re: Need help in PA fast...please Col,You need a word of mouth recommendation. If no one from the list here has one, google for a group with your hometown name, "parenting", and maybe a few other neutral words, and ask on the local list. Or see if a PA DAN doctor can give you a primary care doctor's name. You can always find a family doctor, and they tend to be way less dogmatic about the

vaccine issue.When you are resituated, don't forget to report that b*****d to the state medical board, and include the AAP policy that prohibits just this sort of behavior.

May 30, 2007

Hi Becky,

The DT comes in both thimerosal containing and thimerosal free. I told them we

needed

thimerosal free.

Bottom line...it wasn't even about that. They want her to get everything despite

my wishes

or any potential harm the pertussis could do.

I knew this happened to other parents who refused vaccines but honestly, and

maybe

arrogantly, I didn't think it would happen to us. I honestly thought " they'll

never do that to

me because we ARE getting some of the vaccines...just not every single one and

we are

doing it slowly. "

Well...here I am. I am still furious.

It is amazing to me that they could just leave a parent hanging with no doctor

over this.

Col

>

> I'm in Maine so can't help you with finding a doctor. I noticed you were

> trying to get a DT vaccine for your baby. I'm not sure they make a

> mercury free one. Holly Austin (aka kalebsrecovery on list) can tell you

> about her son's story with not getting the DTaP a second time because of

> seizures after in her son, but the DT contained thimerosal. I think he

> seized after that shot as well. I'll cc her this in case she misses this

> on list.

>

> Her son is now autistic.

>

> Becky

>

> Need help in PA fast...please

>

> Does anyone know where I can go to find a new Pediatrician? One that is

> flexible with

> vaccines? A website maybe?

>

> , I registered today with AutismLink hoping someone might help me

> there but I

> haven't gotten my ok to start posting yet.

>

> Some of you know already, I have a 6 month old. My daughter is 12 years

> old and my son

> (aspergers) is 11. I am not against vaccines entirely, but extremely

> cautious about some

> and certainly I don't want them all at once.

>

> I did get my daughter the Tdap recently because it helps to protect my 6

> month old and

> the ped told us that they were seeing cases of whooping cough in our

> area. I did, however,

> refuse the HPV.

>

> The baby is getting some vaccines but very slowly and one at a time. She

> has gotten 1

> DTaP, 1 Polio, 2 prevnar and 2 Hib. I spoke to Mark Geier at length

> about which to get and

> which to avoid, how to get them, etc.

>

> The baby had a reaction to the DTaP. Two days later, she went pale and

> cried nonstop for

> several hours. We called the doctor and were referred to children's

> hospital. They almost

> brought her into the ER, but she was not having seizures and finally

> fell asleep, exhausted.

> She showed no signs of anything the following day.

>

> I also spoke to Mark specifically about this since he knows a lot

> specifically about the DTP

> and DTaP.

>

> We have refused the pertussis component since then but did agree to give

> her the DT.

> They said they would have to get that for her.

>

> Today, I went in for her 6 month visit. She was due for a second polio

> vaccine today. The

> pediatrician, one my children have been seeing for 12 years, told me

> that they were not

> going to get the DT for her and that I could check with the county

> health department if I

> wanted. Further, unless I agreed to give her the DTaP (as they do not

> believe she had a

> reaction) and EVERY SINGLE VACCINE ON THE SCHEDULE, regardless if it is

> required for

> school or not, we can leave.

>

> Long story short...they booted us today because I did not want her to

> get the Pertussis

> again. The only other vaccines we even discussed in delaying or skipping

> was the Hep B to

> be skipped and delaying chicken pox as I would rather her get it on her

> own. I refused the

> HPV for my 12 year old several months ago.

>

> I checked, BTW, with the dept of health for PA and there is no notice of

> a whooping cough

> outbreak. I believe they were lying to us to force us into it. He told

> me that I don't have to

> agree with them, but that they will not treat my children unless they

> get every single

> vaccination recommended by the CDC. He said he cannot force me into the

> vaccines, so I

> have the choice of going elsewhere.

>

> Now I have a 6 month old, along with my older kids (including a son with

> a heart

> condition) and no pediatrician. If they get sick tomorrow, I have no

> where to go.

>

> Anyone know where I can find a doctor fast that will not give me the

> same grief? A website

> maybe that gives info about doctors?

>

> Col

>

May 30, 2007

Hi Becky,

The DT comes in both thimerosal containing and thimerosal free. I told them we

needed

thimerosal free.

Bottom line...it wasn't even about that. They want her to get everything despite

my wishes

or any potential harm the pertussis could do.

I knew this happened to other parents who refused vaccines but honestly, and

maybe

arrogantly, I didn't think it would happen to us. I honestly thought " they'll

never do that to

me because we ARE getting some of the vaccines...just not every single one and

we are

doing it slowly. "

Well...here I am. I am still furious.

It is amazing to me that they could just leave a parent hanging with no doctor

over this.

Col

>

> I'm in Maine so can't help you with finding a doctor. I noticed you were

> trying to get a DT vaccine for your baby. I'm not sure they make a

> mercury free one. Holly Austin (aka kalebsrecovery on list) can tell you

> about her son's story with not getting the DTaP a second time because of

> seizures after in her son, but the DT contained thimerosal. I think he

> seized after that shot as well. I'll cc her this in case she misses this

> on list.

>

> Her son is now autistic.

>

> Becky

>

> Need help in PA fast...please

>

> Does anyone know where I can go to find a new Pediatrician? One that is

> flexible with

> vaccines? A website maybe?

>

> , I registered today with AutismLink hoping someone might help me

> there but I

> haven't gotten my ok to start posting yet.

>

> Some of you know already, I have a 6 month old. My daughter is 12 years

> old and my son

> (aspergers) is 11. I am not against vaccines entirely, but extremely

> cautious about some

> and certainly I don't want them all at once.

>

> I did get my daughter the Tdap recently because it helps to protect my 6

> month old and

> the ped told us that they were seeing cases of whooping cough in our

> area. I did, however,

> refuse the HPV.

>

> The baby is getting some vaccines but very slowly and one at a time. She

> has gotten 1

> DTaP, 1 Polio, 2 prevnar and 2 Hib. I spoke to Mark Geier at length

> about which to get and

> which to avoid, how to get them, etc.

>

> The baby had a reaction to the DTaP. Two days later, she went pale and

> cried nonstop for

> several hours. We called the doctor and were referred to children's

> hospital. They almost

> brought her into the ER, but she was not having seizures and finally

> fell asleep, exhausted.

> She showed no signs of anything the following day.

>

> I also spoke to Mark specifically about this since he knows a lot

> specifically about the DTP

> and DTaP.

>

> We have refused the pertussis component since then but did agree to give

> her the DT.

> They said they would have to get that for her.

>

> Today, I went in for her 6 month visit. She was due for a second polio

> vaccine today. The

> pediatrician, one my children have been seeing for 12 years, told me

> that they were not

> going to get the DT for her and that I could check with the county

> health department if I

> wanted. Further, unless I agreed to give her the DTaP (as they do not

> believe she had a

> reaction) and EVERY SINGLE VACCINE ON THE SCHEDULE, regardless if it is

> required for

> school or not, we can leave.

>

> Long story short...they booted us today because I did not want her to

> get the Pertussis

> again. The only other vaccines we even discussed in delaying or skipping

> was the Hep B to

> be skipped and delaying chicken pox as I would rather her get it on her

> own. I refused the

> HPV for my 12 year old several months ago.

>

> I checked, BTW, with the dept of health for PA and there is no notice of

> a whooping cough

> outbreak. I believe they were lying to us to force us into it. He told

> me that I don't have to

> agree with them, but that they will not treat my children unless they

> get every single

> vaccination recommended by the CDC. He said he cannot force me into the

> vaccines, so I

> have the choice of going elsewhere.

>

> Now I have a 6 month old, along with my older kids (including a son with

> a heart

> condition) and no pediatrician. If they get sick tomorrow, I have no

> where to go.

>

> Anyone know where I can find a doctor fast that will not give me the

> same grief? A website

> maybe that gives info about doctors?

>

> Col

>

May 30, 2007

,

I did bring up the AAP policy and article they wrote telling pediatricians not

to do this to

parents. He said, " I know. I read the article. I don't agree with them. "

Col

>

> Col,

>

> You need a word of mouth recommendation. If no one from the list

> here has one, google for a group with your hometown name,

> " parenting " , and maybe a few other neutral words, and ask on the

> local list. Or see if a PA DAN doctor can give you a primary care

> doctor's name. You can always find a family doctor, and they tend to

> be way less dogmatic about the vaccine issue.

>

> When you are resituated, don't forget to report that b*****d to the

> state medical board, and include the AAP policy that prohibits just

> this sort of behavior.

>

May 30, 2007

,

I did bring up the AAP policy and article they wrote telling pediatricians not

to do this to

parents. He said, " I know. I read the article. I don't agree with them. "

Col

>

> Col,

>

> You need a word of mouth recommendation. If no one from the list

> here has one, google for a group with your hometown name,

> " parenting " , and maybe a few other neutral words, and ask on the

> local list. Or see if a PA DAN doctor can give you a primary care

> doctor's name. You can always find a family doctor, and they tend to

> be way less dogmatic about the vaccine issue.

>

> When you are resituated, don't forget to report that b*****d to the

> state medical board, and include the AAP policy that prohibits just

> this sort of behavior.

>

May 30, 2007

Thank you everyone.

I would have posted again last night but I was exhausted and fell asleep putting

the baby

down at 9:00 pm. lol

and Sophia, I am going to check my e-mail right after I get back from

dropping my

kids off at school. (We slept in). I'll get back to both of you.

I did call my insurance company yesterday after asking here. I told them what

happened

and they said they were going to write a report on him and investigate it. Not

that I expect

anything from that. The woman on the phone was amazed he did this to us. They

also said

that I could take the kids to anyone in our insurance network if they get sick,

although it is

unlikely anyone will see them quickly if they are not patients.

I called my own doctor of the last 25 years and told them what happened and they

immediately said, " We'll take your kids, Colleen. All three of them. " They also

said, " You

are allowed to refuse any vaccines you want! He has no right to try to force you

into

getting anything, let alone all of them! You are their mother! Those are your

kids and you

make that decision! You can refuse them all if you want! "

They don't advocate for skipping all of them, but at least they understand that

they can't

try to force anyone. They will work with me.

So...thank god I at least have a place to take them for now. That was my first

priority. I

cannot have an infant without a doctor, a son with a heart condition with no

doctor, or any

child without a doctor for that matter.

And they won't make me do anything or even try to talk me out of it. My doctor

already

knows how I feel about all of this and she has already told me in the past that

she agrees

that there are way too many on the schedule.

I still want to find a pediatrician that has privledges at the children's

hospital, particularly

for my son's sake. But, really for all. But, at least I now have some time to

look without

feeling panicked.

Thank you all.

Col

> What part of Pa?

>

> I saw Dr. in Lansdale. He was GP and DAN. I was very happy with him.

>

> Re: Need help in PA fast...please

>

> Col,

>

> You need a word of mouth recommendation. If no one from the list

> here has one, google for a group with your hometown name,

> " parenting " , and maybe a few other neutral words, and ask on the

> local list. Or see if a PA DAN doctor can give you a primary care

> doctor's name. You can always find a family doctor, and they tend to

> be way less dogmatic about the vaccine issue.

>

> When you are resituated, don't forget to report that b*****d to the

> state medical board, and include the AAP policy that prohibits just

> this sort of behavior.

>

May 30, 2007

Thank you everyone.

I would have posted again last night but I was exhausted and fell asleep putting

the baby

down at 9:00 pm. lol

and Sophia, I am going to check my e-mail right after I get back from

dropping my

kids off at school. (We slept in). I'll get back to both of you.

I did call my insurance company yesterday after asking here. I told them what

happened

and they said they were going to write a report on him and investigate it. Not

that I expect

anything from that. The woman on the phone was amazed he did this to us. They

also said

that I could take the kids to anyone in our insurance network if they get sick,

although it is

unlikely anyone will see them quickly if they are not patients.

I called my own doctor of the last 25 years and told them what happened and they

immediately said, " We'll take your kids, Colleen. All three of them. " They also

said, " You

are allowed to refuse any vaccines you want! He has no right to try to force you

into

getting anything, let alone all of them! You are their mother! Those are your

kids and you

make that decision! You can refuse them all if you want! "

They don't advocate for skipping all of them, but at least they understand that

they can't

try to force anyone. They will work with me.

So...thank god I at least have a place to take them for now. That was my first

priority. I

cannot have an infant without a doctor, a son with a heart condition with no

doctor, or any

child without a doctor for that matter.

And they won't make me do anything or even try to talk me out of it. My doctor

already

knows how I feel about all of this and she has already told me in the past that

she agrees

that there are way too many on the schedule.

I still want to find a pediatrician that has privledges at the children's

hospital, particularly

for my son's sake. But, really for all. But, at least I now have some time to

look without

feeling panicked.

Thank you all.

Col

> What part of Pa?

>

> I saw Dr. in Lansdale. He was GP and DAN. I was very happy with him.

>

> Re: Need help in PA fast...please

>

> Col,

>

> You need a word of mouth recommendation. If no one from the list

> here has one, google for a group with your hometown name,

> " parenting " , and maybe a few other neutral words, and ask on the

> local list. Or see if a PA DAN doctor can give you a primary care

> doctor's name. You can always find a family doctor, and they tend to

> be way less dogmatic about the vaccine issue.

>

> When you are resituated, don't forget to report that b*****d to the

> state medical board, and include the AAP policy that prohibits just

> this sort of behavior.

>

May 30, 2007

Col- I'm Holly and what Becky wrote was accurate. My son went pale

and was seizing within 4 hours of DTaP and others. I opted for just

the DT and was told it was thimerosal free- but was last dose of a

10 dose vial with full 25 mcg of thimerosal per dose. He then

within 2 weeks stopped talking and within 2 months went from

perfactly normal to AUtistic. DO NOT VACCINATE YOUR CHILD IF YOU

ARE QUESTIONING IT- If I could go back I would move before I would

give my son any more vaccines. My son is Autistic thanks to the DT-

it may have been the straw that broke the camels back, but it was

what caused it. Don't think that it wont contain thimerosal casue it

still could. Good luck! Holly

> >

> > I'm in Maine so can't help you with finding a doctor. I noticed

you were

> > trying to get a DT vaccine for your baby. I'm not sure they make

a

> > mercury free one. Holly Austin (aka kalebsrecovery on list) can

tell you

> > about her son's story with not getting the DTaP a second time

because of

> > seizures after in her son, but the DT contained thimerosal. I

think he

> > seized after that shot as well. I'll cc her this in case she

misses this

> > on list.

> >

> > Her son is now autistic.

> >

> > Becky

> >

> > Need help in PA fast...please

> >

> > Does anyone know where I can go to find a new Pediatrician? One

that is

> > flexible with

> > vaccines? A website maybe?

> >

> > , I registered today with AutismLink hoping someone might

help me

> > there but I

> > haven't gotten my ok to start posting yet.

> >

> > Some of you know already, I have a 6 month old. My daughter is

12 years

> > old and my son

> > (aspergers) is 11. I am not against vaccines entirely, but

extremely

> > cautious about some

> > and certainly I don't want them all at once.

> >

> > I did get my daughter the Tdap recently because it helps to

protect my 6

> > month old and

> > the ped told us that they were seeing cases of whooping cough in

our

> > area. I did, however,

> > refuse the HPV.

> >

> > The baby is getting some vaccines but very slowly and one at a

time. She

> > has gotten 1

> > DTaP, 1 Polio, 2 prevnar and 2 Hib. I spoke to Mark Geier at

length

> > about which to get and

> > which to avoid, how to get them, etc.

> >

> > The baby had a reaction to the DTaP. Two days later, she went

pale and

> > cried nonstop for

> > several hours. We called the doctor and were referred to

children's

> > hospital. They almost

> > brought her into the ER, but she was not having seizures and

finally

> > fell asleep, exhausted.

> > She showed no signs of anything the following day.

> >

> > I also spoke to Mark specifically about this since he knows a lot

> > specifically about the DTP

> > and DTaP.

> >

> > We have refused the pertussis component since then but did agree

to give

> > her the DT.

> > They said they would have to get that for her.

> >

> > Today, I went in for her 6 month visit. She was due for a second

polio

> > vaccine today. The

> > pediatrician, one my children have been seeing for 12 years,

told me

> > that they were not

> > going to get the DT for her and that I could check with the

county

> > health department if I

> > wanted. Further, unless I agreed to give her the DTaP (as they

do not

> > believe she had a

> > reaction) and EVERY SINGLE VACCINE ON THE SCHEDULE, regardless

if it is

> > required for

> > school or not, we can leave.

> >

> > Long story short...they booted us today because I did not want

her to

> > get the Pertussis

> > again. The only other vaccines we even discussed in delaying or

skipping

> > was the Hep B to

> > be skipped and delaying chicken pox as I would rather her get it

on her

> > own. I refused the

> > HPV for my 12 year old several months ago.

> >

> > I checked, BTW, with the dept of health for PA and there is no

notice of

> > a whooping cough

> > outbreak. I believe they were lying to us to force us into it.

He told

> > me that I don't have to

> > agree with them, but that they will not treat my children unless

they

> > get every single

> > vaccination recommended by the CDC. He said he cannot force me

into the

> > vaccines, so I

> > have the choice of going elsewhere.

> >

> > Now I have a 6 month old, along with my older kids (including a

son with

> > a heart

> > condition) and no pediatrician. If they get sick tomorrow, I

have no

> > where to go.

> >

> > Anyone know where I can find a doctor fast that will not give me

the

> > same grief? A website

> > maybe that gives info about doctors?

> >

> > Col

> >

>

May 30, 2007