Re: How does bones0504 become ho hum about 37,000 adverse vaccine reactions?

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I am happy to hear your son is getting better, my 7 year old son is

making progress as well.

I was a bit taking back by your reply because it sounded like you

were implying I was involved in humiliating comments and I was not.

If I were to hypothetically post something inflammatory that I know

would get people upset and

then I get attacked, does that negate the fact that what I said

was inflammatory? NO

In my critique of your post I was simply saying that in addition to

denouncing the humiliating comments to bones you should not

overlook his (imho) inflammatory remark dismissing 37,000 damaged

children.

I am very careful to not put anything on this board that is offensive

to others even though I personally do not think bomb throwers and

those that mock us should

be allowed here because in my opinion they are not interested in

serious debate.

I am not running the show,so I go with the flow.

I strongly believe in debate although I find most people that defend

mercury defend it for emotional reasons not logical ones.

-- In EOHarm , " chapdoggy " <chris@...> wrote:

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> ,

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> Just so you know I am 's husband and a parent of a vaccine

> injured beautiful son who is making great progress with bio-medical

> treatment.

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> BUT this is a discussion group and I value having debate to see all

> sides and learn all facts, making humalitating comments and

> dismissing other opinions in a truly childish paranoid manner does

> not invite true debate. The comments here have been shameful, I say

> if we are all so positive in our positions we want those that will

> challenge them so we can strike them down with facts, not childish

> comments.

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> The last thing I want to be associated with is another sheeple clan

> of be with us or be wrong minus debate, sorry Richie...

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> > > > > > > > > Wasn't 0504 which would be May 2004 the date when

the

> > IOM

> > > > > > > finished

> > > > > > > > > their study and said Thimerisol is absolved lets

move

> > on?

> > > > > > > > > I have given bones the benefit of the doubt but now

I

> > am

> > > > 100%

> > > > > > > > > convinced he works for the enemy or is the enemy

> > because

> > > no

> > > > > > > normal

> > > > > > > > > human being could so readily rationalize and

dismiss

> > > 37,000

> > > > > > > > adverse

> > > > > > > > > reactions to a vaccine that should not even have

been

> > > given

> > > > to

> > > > > > > > > infants that are hours old some in extremely frail

> > > health..

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Interesting point of view, . Thank you.

" Something is stealing the health of our children. "

-I don't doubt that for a minute.

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> > > > > > How long do you guys think it will take " bones " to run

over

> > to

> > > > the ND

> > > > > > Abyss and talk and laugh about his experience here?

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[Guest guest]

Interesting point of view, . Thank you.

" Something is stealing the health of our children. "

-I don't doubt that for a minute.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > How long do you guys think it will take " bones " to run

over

> > to

> > > > the ND

> > > > > > Abyss and talk and laugh about his experience here?

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Agreed for the most part, but the approach is not harmless.

If you research this issue, you will find any number of individuals are paid by various organizations (some private, some public) to go onto websites, to create dissension, to disrupt the flow of information, to function as "straw men" or to provide disinformation to the webgroups. It is part of their general disinformation campaigns. Historically, it has shown some effect.

This is not a surprise, it's well documented.

Bones.0504 fits that profile. As does Rhodopsin1.

Perhaps the real surprise here, is that when asked his identity, his answer, using a character from The Shining, displayed a level of competence, which is of a lower order. A more highly skilled person would have provided a much more competent answer. And would have been much less easily fisked.

He is more annoyance than threat.

Re: How does bones0504 become ho hum about 37,000 adverse vaccine reactions?

The way you people have treated Bones I think is shameful, I haven't really seen any posts from him antagonizing you all in any way. Who cares what side he is on, or what his purpose is, at worse ignore him. But posting about incest is kinda childish and reee-donkelous don't you think?> > > > > >> > > > > > Wasn't 0504 which would be May 2004 the date when the IOM > > > > finished > > > > > > their study and said Thimerisol is absolved lets move on? > > > > > > I have given bones the benefit of the doubt but now I am > 100% > > > > > > convinced he works for the enemy or is the enemy because no > > > > normal > > > > > > human being could so readily rationalize and dismiss 37,000 > > > > > adverse > > > > > > reactions to a vaccine that should not even have been given > to > > > > > > infants that are hours old some in extremely frail health..> > >> >>

[Guest guest]

Agreed for the most part, but the approach is not harmless.

If you research this issue, you will find any number of individuals are paid by various organizations (some private, some public) to go onto websites, to create dissension, to disrupt the flow of information, to function as "straw men" or to provide disinformation to the webgroups. It is part of their general disinformation campaigns. Historically, it has shown some effect.

This is not a surprise, it's well documented.

Bones.0504 fits that profile. As does Rhodopsin1.

Perhaps the real surprise here, is that when asked his identity, his answer, using a character from The Shining, displayed a level of competence, which is of a lower order. A more highly skilled person would have provided a much more competent answer. And would have been much less easily fisked.

He is more annoyance than threat.

Re: How does bones0504 become ho hum about 37,000 adverse vaccine reactions?

The way you people have treated Bones I think is shameful, I haven't really seen any posts from him antagonizing you all in any way. Who cares what side he is on, or what his purpose is, at worse ignore him. But posting about incest is kinda childish and reee-donkelous don't you think?> > > > > >> > > > > > Wasn't 0504 which would be May 2004 the date when the IOM > > > > finished > > > > > > their study and said Thimerisol is absolved lets move on? > > > > > > I have given bones the benefit of the doubt but now I am > 100% > > > > > > convinced he works for the enemy or is the enemy because no > > > > normal > > > > > > human being could so readily rationalize and dismiss 37,000 > > > > > adverse > > > > > > reactions to a vaccine that should not even have been given > to > > > > > > infants that are hours old some in extremely frail health..> > >> >>

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- Just to clarify something you wrote below: No one (child especially) can sufficiently clear the amount of mercury that has been dumped on a population of kids in the last 25 years -- thimersol, mercury in pesticides (and the other toxins), a mom's amalgam mercury passed inutero, etc. It is a matter of how that mercury will manifest as a disease state. Our kids happen to be behavioral -- that thing called "autism."The disease conditions of too many children recently tells me that they are not clearing the mercury (or other toxins).I agree with everything else you pointed out.Rox <AWROSENTHL@...> wrote: You seem to like a good debate. So do I, usually. The problem is that autism doesn't exist - that is, there is no one entity that is autism. It is merely a label for a constellation of symptoms. So for some children who cannot rid the body of mercury, the mercury deposits in the brain and causes "autism." For others who are impaired, the mercury affects the immune system - then when the system is weakened and the mercury-free MMR is administered, the live measles virus takes hold and causes "autism." For some, the vaccine load triggers ongoing ear infections and leads to causing leaky gut due to overuse of antibiotics, and that causes "autism." And sometimes, due to a child's body makeup, this doesn't cause "autism," but it causes some other non-disorder

constallation of symptoms, like ADHD or learning disabilities, or it triggers the immune system to go haywire. You say only the dogmatic are afraid of opposing views. I'd agree with you if this were merely discussion, but it isn't. The opposition isn't a "view" - it's action that is resulting in neurological damage to 1 in 6 of our children, at least. It's not a view or idea or ideal we're debating. This isn't theory. The "opposing viewpoint" is armed with a weapon we see as a danger to our children. We've got sick children we are trying to help. Despite this country being in the forefront of vaccinations and medical advances, the US ranks in 33rd place for men (tied with Cuba) and 32nd for women (tied with Costa Rica) in life expectancy. We are raising a generation of children who have neurological damage, attentional issues, learning issues, unpresidented autoimmune diseases

(in the form of allergies, asthma and diabetes), and for whom bringing a peanut butter sandwich to school is becoming a thing of the past, because in any typical classroom, for one of their peers, a peanut is the kiss of death. Something is stealing the health of our children. R > > > > > > > > > > How long do you guys think it will take "bones" to run over > to > > > the ND > > > > > Abyss and talk and laugh about his experience here? > > > > > > > > > >

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- Just to clarify something you wrote below: No one (child especially) can sufficiently clear the amount of mercury that has been dumped on a population of kids in the last 25 years -- thimersol, mercury in pesticides (and the other toxins), a mom's amalgam mercury passed inutero, etc. It is a matter of how that mercury will manifest as a disease state. Our kids happen to be behavioral -- that thing called "autism."The disease conditions of too many children recently tells me that they are not clearing the mercury (or other toxins).I agree with everything else you pointed out.Rox <AWROSENTHL@...> wrote: You seem to like a good debate. So do I, usually. The problem is that autism doesn't exist - that is, there is no one entity that is autism. It is merely a label for a constellation of symptoms. So for some children who cannot rid the body of mercury, the mercury deposits in the brain and causes "autism." For others who are impaired, the mercury affects the immune system - then when the system is weakened and the mercury-free MMR is administered, the live measles virus takes hold and causes "autism." For some, the vaccine load triggers ongoing ear infections and leads to causing leaky gut due to overuse of antibiotics, and that causes "autism." And sometimes, due to a child's body makeup, this doesn't cause "autism," but it causes some other non-disorder

constallation of symptoms, like ADHD or learning disabilities, or it triggers the immune system to go haywire. You say only the dogmatic are afraid of opposing views. I'd agree with you if this were merely discussion, but it isn't. The opposition isn't a "view" - it's action that is resulting in neurological damage to 1 in 6 of our children, at least. It's not a view or idea or ideal we're debating. This isn't theory. The "opposing viewpoint" is armed with a weapon we see as a danger to our children. We've got sick children we are trying to help. Despite this country being in the forefront of vaccinations and medical advances, the US ranks in 33rd place for men (tied with Cuba) and 32nd for women (tied with Costa Rica) in life expectancy. We are raising a generation of children who have neurological damage, attentional issues, learning issues, unpresidented autoimmune diseases

(in the form of allergies, asthma and diabetes), and for whom bringing a peanut butter sandwich to school is becoming a thing of the past, because in any typical classroom, for one of their peers, a peanut is the kiss of death. Something is stealing the health of our children. R > > > > > > > > > > How long do you guys think it will take "bones" to run over > to > > > the ND > > > > > Abyss and talk and laugh about his experience here? > > > > > > > > > >

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SO why can't you block him Lenny? I am tired of bones...hcoleman <stratpat@...> wrote: Agreed for the most part, but the approach is not harmless. If you research this issue, you will find any number of individuals are paid by various organizations (some private, some public) to go onto websites, to create dissension, to disrupt the flow of

information, to function as "straw men" or to provide disinformation to the webgroups. It is part of their general disinformation campaigns. Historically, it has shown some effect. This is not a surprise, it's well documented. Bones.0504 fits that profile. As does Rhodopsin1. Perhaps the real surprise here, is that when asked his identity, his answer, using a character from The Shining, displayed a level of competence, which is of a lower order. A more highly skilled person would have provided a much more competent answer. And would have been much less easily fisked. He

is more annoyance than threat. Re: How does bones0504 become ho hum about 37,000 adverse vaccine reactions? The way you people have treated Bones I think is shameful, I haven't really seen any posts from him antagonizing you all in any way. Who cares what side he is on, or what his purpose is, at worse ignore him. But posting about incest is kinda childish and reee-donkelous don't you think?> > > > > >> > > > > > Wasn't 0504 which would be May 2004 the date when the IOM > > > > finished > > > > > > their study and said Thimerisol is absolved lets move on? > > > > > > I have given bones the benefit of the doubt but now I am >

100% > > > > > > convinced he works for the enemy or is the enemy because no > > > > normal > > > > > > human being could so readily rationalize and dismiss 37,000 > > > > > adverse > > > > > > reactions to a vaccine that should not even have been given > to > > > > > > infants that are hours old some in extremely frail health..> > >> >>

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SO why can't you block him Lenny? I am tired of bones...hcoleman <stratpat@...> wrote: Agreed for the most part, but the approach is not harmless. If you research this issue, you will find any number of individuals are paid by various organizations (some private, some public) to go onto websites, to create dissension, to disrupt the flow of

information, to function as "straw men" or to provide disinformation to the webgroups. It is part of their general disinformation campaigns. Historically, it has shown some effect. This is not a surprise, it's well documented. Bones.0504 fits that profile. As does Rhodopsin1. Perhaps the real surprise here, is that when asked his identity, his answer, using a character from The Shining, displayed a level of competence, which is of a lower order. A more highly skilled person would have provided a much more competent answer. And would have been much less easily fisked. He

is more annoyance than threat. Re: How does bones0504 become ho hum about 37,000 adverse vaccine reactions? The way you people have treated Bones I think is shameful, I haven't really seen any posts from him antagonizing you all in any way. Who cares what side he is on, or what his purpose is, at worse ignore him. But posting about incest is kinda childish and reee-donkelous don't you think?> > > > > >> > > > > > Wasn't 0504 which would be May 2004 the date when the IOM > > > > finished > > > > > > their study and said Thimerisol is absolved lets move on? > > > > > > I have given bones the benefit of the doubt but now I am >

100% > > > > > > convinced he works for the enemy or is the enemy because no > > > > normal > > > > > > human being could so readily rationalize and dismiss 37,000 > > > > > adverse > > > > > > reactions to a vaccine that should not even have been given > to > > > > > > infants that are hours old some in extremely frail health..> > >> >>

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"God forbid I talk to anyone else. As I stated before, only the dogmatic are fearful of an opposing view."

Then Bones you are truly dogmatic. The majority here has responded to you with a collective yawn. Considering how many people are on this list. Your assumptions, feelings about, opinions and dogma have not been supported with any true data or studies that we are able to evaluate and have a discussion about. But since you have no clear reason to be a part of this debate, why are you here? Dr. King has politely asked you many times to support your views with more than your opionions and I thinks or I read. Are you afraid of Dr. King? Afraid of debate? Where did you read your supposed facts? Having a child with autism is a traumatic experience. It leaves feelings raw and you are playing with those very vulnerable feelings. Emotional responses are not always the best way to deal with your taunts, but I know the pain from which they eminate. YOU do not. You are so impressed with yourself and your glib use of the english language, there is truly no room for

anyone on this board to have a discussion with you. And we are not impressed. That must be hard for you since your wisdom seems to be so important that you impart it to us with well designed malignancy. Which shows a lack of intellect on your part. You are afraid of the debate. You are here to hurt and that is shameful. We are here to get information, disseminate staudies and discuss ideas that are critical to saving our children. This includes studies for and against the mercury connection and environmental causes. And the members of this board are quite capable of reading these studies, evaluating data and seeing the truth that you cannot or will not even consider. You are stuck on your dogma and your cruelty.Yet you seem very pleased with yourself to cause so many good people to hurt and lash back in that hurt you caused. You achieved your aim. I'm sure you laugh to yourself about the hurt you inflict. Which makes you a very despicable person. Your pious response

now is, as the rest of your posts have been, quite ridiculous and self absorbed. You have no place at this autism debate. I pity that you want to have children. But for their sakes I hope that they are nt. Now go away and let the those of us with a real reason to be here heal our children.

Sorry Lenny if this violates your list rules. (well not really just to be truthful!)

Kathleen

>> A quick Google of Bones.0504 shows that Bones is playing in Mr. > Leitch's sandbox. Mr. Leitch has been kind to me recently - and Lord

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"God forbid I talk to anyone else. As I stated before, only the dogmatic are fearful of an opposing view."

Then Bones you are truly dogmatic. The majority here has responded to you with a collective yawn. Considering how many people are on this list. Your assumptions, feelings about, opinions and dogma have not been supported with any true data or studies that we are able to evaluate and have a discussion about. But since you have no clear reason to be a part of this debate, why are you here? Dr. King has politely asked you many times to support your views with more than your opionions and I thinks or I read. Are you afraid of Dr. King? Afraid of debate? Where did you read your supposed facts? Having a child with autism is a traumatic experience. It leaves feelings raw and you are playing with those very vulnerable feelings. Emotional responses are not always the best way to deal with your taunts, but I know the pain from which they eminate. YOU do not. You are so impressed with yourself and your glib use of the english language, there is truly no room for

anyone on this board to have a discussion with you. And we are not impressed. That must be hard for you since your wisdom seems to be so important that you impart it to us with well designed malignancy. Which shows a lack of intellect on your part. You are afraid of the debate. You are here to hurt and that is shameful. We are here to get information, disseminate staudies and discuss ideas that are critical to saving our children. This includes studies for and against the mercury connection and environmental causes. And the members of this board are quite capable of reading these studies, evaluating data and seeing the truth that you cannot or will not even consider. You are stuck on your dogma and your cruelty.Yet you seem very pleased with yourself to cause so many good people to hurt and lash back in that hurt you caused. You achieved your aim. I'm sure you laugh to yourself about the hurt you inflict. Which makes you a very despicable person. Your pious response

now is, as the rest of your posts have been, quite ridiculous and self absorbed. You have no place at this autism debate. I pity that you want to have children. But for their sakes I hope that they are nt. Now go away and let the those of us with a real reason to be here heal our children.

Sorry Lenny if this violates your list rules. (well not really just to be truthful!)

Kathleen

>> A quick Google of Bones.0504 shows that Bones is playing in Mr. > Leitch's sandbox. Mr. Leitch has been kind to me recently - and Lord

Luggage? GPS? Comic books?

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There's a difference between having mercury injected into you and that which can go through the digestive process. Assuming the gut is in good condition, that mercury-laden tuna has a chance of leaving the body.kerbob1 <kerbob1@...> wrote: P.S. Does any one know the mercury content of a typicaal fastfood cheeseburger w/bun? > > > > > > > > > > > > How long do you guys think it will take "bones" to run over

> > to > > > > the ND > > > > > > Abyss and talk and laugh about his experience here? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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Kim did you see the YouTube story about a couple that were getting botox to cele brate the holidays? Apparently the "injector" who was a friend of theirs, purchased the botox from an internet source. It paralyzed them both from head to toe. The wife still cannot speak, the husband is a bit better, and going through daily intensive therapy. Bet wrinkles are the last thing on their minds. Pffft... Sophia krstagliano <KRStagliano@...> wrote: A quick Google of Bones.0504 shows that Bones is playing in Mr. Leitch's sandbox. Mr. Leitch has been kind to me recently - and Lord knows he reads this list closer than Lenny so I will use my most courteous Kim Stagliano language. Now, you want to get me started on the Botox injecting doc who slammed me on my own blog - him? I responded in kind.Did you hear about the Botox benefit for autism? I kid you not. Check it out at my blog. IT's a howl!kimstagliano.blogspot.com Third post down - read the comments!!!!KIM>> How long do you guys think it will take "bones" to run over to the ND > Abyss and talk and laugh about his experience here? 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time with the Search movie showtime shortcut.

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So do you know the mercury toxicity of a cheeseburger, or not? Is it

safe to say that several thousand cheeseburgers may safely be

devoured with mercury toxicity kept to a very extended, very small

dose?

As you do point out, even ten thousand cheeseburgers properly

ingested would not equate mercury-wise to one single thimerosal-

containing vaccine injection by-passing the ususal draught.

Putting mercury into babies is stupid, stupid, stupid, dumb.

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