Re: How does bones0504 become ho hum about 37,000 adverse vaccine reactions?

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Keep also in mind the great numbers of adverse reactions that went unreported. <rng777@...> wrote: Wasn't 0504 which would be May 2004 the date when the IOM finished their study and said Thimerisol is absolved lets move on? I have given bones the benefit of the doubt but now I am 100% convinced he works for the enemy or is the enemy because no normal human being could so readily rationalize and dismiss 37,000 adverse reactions to a vaccine that should not even have been given to infants that

are hours old some in extremely frail health.. In EOHarm , "bones.0504" <bones.0504@> wrote:> >> > I do not doubt that the CDC reported 37,000+ adverse reactions to > > the Hep-B, but when you take into account the subjective nature of > > the word "reaction" and the millions+ doses given...well, I'd take > > the shot. > > > > ..but that's just me. I probably didn't even aswer your question, > > but I tend to ramble. Sorry.> >

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[Guest guest]

0504...darn it!!! I knew that was too obvious. You people are just

too good for me.

> > >

> > > I do not doubt that the CDC reported 37,000+ adverse reactions

to

> > > the Hep-B, but when you take into account the subjective

nature

> of

> > > the word " reaction " and the millions+ doses given...well, I'd

> take

> > > the shot.

> > >

> > > ..but that's just me. I probably didn't even aswer your

> question,

> > > but I tend to ramble. Sorry.

> > >

>

[Guest guest]

Exactly, forget the studies for or against the thimerosal

connection. What about the 100s if not thousands of parents that saw

there child regress into autism within days in some cases hours after

receiving the shot. This can't be just considered coincidence and

wont be come June.

> > >

> > > I do not doubt that the CDC reported 37,000+ adverse reactions

to

> > > the Hep-B, but when you take into account the subjective nature

> of

> > > the word " reaction " and the millions+ doses given...well, I'd

> take

> > > the shot.

> > >

> > > ..but that's just me. I probably didn't even aswer your

> question,

> > > but I tend to ramble. Sorry.

> > >

>

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[Guest guest]

Hit the road " Jack " don't you come back, no more, no more, no more,

no more.

Hit the road " Jack "

Good song, huh?

> > >

> > > Wasn't 0504 which would be May 2004 the date when the IOM

> finished

> > > their study and said Thimerisol is absolved lets move on?

> > > I have given bones the benefit of the doubt but now I am 100%

> > > convinced he works for the enemy or is the enemy because no

> normal

> > > human being could so readily rationalize and dismiss 37,000

> > adverse

> > > reactions to a vaccine that should not even have been given to

> > > infants that are hours old some in extremely frail health..

[Guest guest]

I'm still waiting for his real name...

> > > >

> > > > Wasn't 0504 which would be May 2004 the date when the IOM

> > finished

> > > > their study and said Thimerisol is absolved lets move on?

> > > > I have given bones the benefit of the doubt but now I am 100%

> > > > convinced he works for the enemy or is the enemy because no

> > normal

> > > > human being could so readily rationalize and dismiss 37,000

> > > adverse

> > > > reactions to a vaccine that should not even have been given to

> > > > infants that are hours old some in extremely frail health..

>

[Guest guest]

, thanks for the good laugh today. maurine Nanstiel <erik@...> wrote: I'm still waiting for his real name...> > > >> > > > Wasn't 0504 which would be May 2004 the date when the IOM > > finished > > > >

their study and said Thimerisol is absolved lets move on? > > > > I have given bones the benefit of the doubt but now I am 100% > > > > convinced he works for the enemy or is the enemy because no > > normal > > > > human being could so readily rationalize and dismiss 37,000 > > > adverse > > > > reactions to a vaccine that should not even have been given to > > > > infants that are hours old some in extremely frail health..>

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[Guest guest]

A quick Google of Bones.0504 shows that Bones is playing in Mr.

Leitch's sandbox. Mr. Leitch has been kind to me recently - and Lord

knows he reads this list closer than Lenny so I will use my most

courteous Kim Stagliano language.

Now, you want to get me started on the Botox injecting doc who slammed

me on my own blog - him? I responded in kind.

Did you hear about the Botox benefit for autism? I kid you not. Check

it out at my blog. IT's a howl!

kimstagliano.blogspot.com Third post down - read the comments!!!!

KIM

>

> How long do you guys think it will take " bones " to run over to the ND

> Abyss and talk and laugh about his experience here?

[Guest guest]

The way you people have treated Bones I think is shameful, I haven't

really seen any posts from him antagonizing you all in any way. Who

cares what side he is on, or what his purpose is, at worse ignore

him.

But posting about incest is kinda childish and reee-donkelous don't

you think?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Wasn't 0504 which would be May 2004 the date when the IOM

> > > > finished

> > > > > > their study and said Thimerisol is absolved lets move on?

> > > > > > I have given bones the benefit of the doubt but now I am

> 100%

> > > > > > convinced he works for the enemy or is the enemy because

no

> > > > normal

> > > > > > human being could so readily rationalize and dismiss

37,000

> > > > > adverse

> > > > > > reactions to a vaccine that should not even have been

given

> to

> > > > > > infants that are hours old some in extremely frail

health..

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

" Bones " is what they called the doctor on Star Trek. Perhaps he's an

MD of some variety... maybe, even, a vaccinationist?

R

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Wasn't 0504 which would be May 2004 the date when the

IOM

> > > > > finished

> > > > > > > their study and said Thimerisol is absolved lets move

on?

> > > > > > > I have given bones the benefit of the doubt but now I

am

> > 100%

> > > > > > > convinced he works for the enemy or is the enemy

because

> no

> > > > > normal

> > > > > > > human being could so readily rationalize and dismiss

> 37,000

> > > > > > adverse

> > > > > > > reactions to a vaccine that should not even have been

> given

> > to

> > > > > > > infants that are hours old some in extremely frail

> health..

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I appreciate your comment denouncing using incest insinuations

against bones but where is your outcry over the 37,000 kids that had

adverse reactions to an unneccesary vaccine that bones seems to think

is a very minor acceptable loss? Where is your outcry for them? They

have no voice bones does!!!!!!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Wasn't 0504 which would be May 2004 the date when the

IOM

> > > > > finished

> > > > > > > their study and said Thimerisol is absolved lets move

on?

> > > > > > > I have given bones the benefit of the doubt but now I

am

> > 100%

> > > > > > > convinced he works for the enemy or is the enemy

because

> no

> > > > > normal

> > > > > > > human being could so readily rationalize and dismiss

> 37,000

> > > > > > adverse

> > > > > > > reactions to a vaccine that should not even have been

> given

> > to

> > > > > > > infants that are hours old some in extremely frail

> health..

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

This joking about incest is yucky!

Marie in Iowa

Re: How does bones0504 become ho hum about 37,000 adverse vaccine reactions?

I appreciate your comment denouncing using incest insinuations against bones but where is your outcry over the 37,000 kids that had adverse reactions to an unneccesary vaccine that bones seems to think is a very minor acceptable loss? Where is your outcry for them? They have no voice bones does!!!!!!> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Wasn't 0504 which would be May 2004 the date when the IOM > > > > > finished > > > > > > > their study and said Thimerisol is absolved lets move on? > > > > > > > I have given bones the benefit of the doubt but now I am > > 100% > > > > > > > convinced he works for the enemy or is the enemy because > no > > > > > normal > > > > > > > human being could so readily rationalize and dismiss > 37,000 > > > > > > adverse > > > > > > > reactions to a vaccine that should not even have been > given > > to > > > > > > > infants that are hours old some in extremely frail > health..> > > >> > >> >>

[Guest guest]

I apologize for the poor attempt at humor. My " witty " comment came

from the fact that bones said the 0504 is the day his mother died and

someone wanted to know his real name so I tied it all in with a

Norman Bates reference.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Wasn't 0504 which would be May 2004 the date when

the

> IOM

> > > > > > finished

> > > > > > > > their study and said Thimerisol is absolved lets

move

> on?

> > > > > > > > I have given bones the benefit of the doubt but now

I

> am

> > > 100%

> > > > > > > > convinced he works for the enemy or is the enemy

> because

> > no

> > > > > > normal

> > > > > > > > human being could so readily rationalize and

dismiss

> > 37,000

> > > > > > > adverse

> > > > > > > > reactions to a vaccine that should not even have

been

> > given

> > > to

> > > > > > > > infants that are hours old some in extremely frail

> > health..

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Why I lose little sleep over the Neurodiverse people.

The neurodiverse micro-movement is primarily reactionary. Their cause

exists mostly in response to the parent advocacy for the prevention,

treating and curing of " autism. " Without us to react to, they have no

cause, no agenda. Even so, they aren't really in opposition to us, but

only in opposition to their perverted, exaggerated perception of our

purpose.

The best tactical response to such silly reactionary movements is to

not feed them by even acknowledging their existence.

I will, however, break my personal blackout on these folks to point

this out in as few words as possible.

Lenny

> >

> > How long do you guys think it will take " bones " to run over to the ND

> > Abyss and talk and laugh about his experience here?

>

[Guest guest]

God forbid I talk to anyone else. As I stated before, only the

dogmatic are fearful of an opposing view.

> >

> > How long do you guys think it will take " bones " to run over to

the ND

> > Abyss and talk and laugh about his experience here?

>

[Guest guest]

,

Just so you know I am 's husband and a parent of a vaccine

injured beautiful son who is making great progress with bio-medical

treatment.

BUT this is a discussion group and I value having debate to see all

sides and learn all facts, making humalitating comments and

dismissing other opinions in a truly childish paranoid manner does

not invite true debate. The comments here have been shameful, I say

if we are all so positive in our positions we want those that will

challenge them so we can strike them down with facts, not childish

comments.

The last thing I want to be associated with is another sheeple clan

of be with us or be wrong minus debate, sorry Richie...

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Wasn't 0504 which would be May 2004 the date when the

> IOM

> > > > > > finished

> > > > > > > > their study and said Thimerisol is absolved lets move

> on?

> > > > > > > > I have given bones the benefit of the doubt but now I

> am

> > > 100%

> > > > > > > > convinced he works for the enemy or is the enemy

> because

> > no

> > > > > > normal

> > > > > > > > human being could so readily rationalize and dismiss

> > 37,000

> > > > > > > adverse

> > > > > > > > reactions to a vaccine that should not even have been

> > given

> > > to

> > > > > > > > infants that are hours old some in extremely frail

> > health..

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Can you believe that some doctors oppose taking mercury out of

children's vaccines? What are they? Complete idiots.

There are some stupid doctors who believe that putting mercury into

infants is the smart thing to do.

Mercury is a neurotoxin. Mercury creates cell changes even at trace

levels.

Putting mercury into babies stupid, stupid, stupid, dumb.

> > >

> > > How long do you guys think it will take " bones " to run over to

> the ND

> > > Abyss and talk and laugh about his experience here?

> >

>

[Guest guest]

<mark.connolly.cgb5@> wrote:

" Doesn't his alias,bones0504, have something to do with boning

his mother before she died? Maybe his real name is Norman. Thank

you, I'm here all week, dark Sundays. "

Mark, if you weren't so feebleminded, I'd actually be mad, Although,

I have to admit, I'm losing I.Q. points merely responding to this.

Perhaps, you'd like to blame it on the vaccines I received some 30

yrs ago.

Mr. Schaffer, you should be ashamed of yourself for allowing such

drivel (fyi: childish, silly, or meaningless talk or thinking;

nonsense; twaddle) on your supposed insightful forum. All I've done

is respond to questions posed to me, and all I've received in return

are ad hominem attacks (def: appealing to one's prejudices,

emotions, or special interests rather than to one's intellect or

reason; attacking an opponent's character rather than answering his

argument).

A debater commits the Ad Hominem Fallacy when he introduces

irrelevant personal premisses about his opponent. Such red herrings

may successfully distract the opponent or the audience from the

topic of the debate.

Tell me Mr. Schaffer...if thimerosal = autism, then why doesn't

evryone just chelate their child? It works doesn't it? Or is it MMR

that causes autism? Or is it environmental toxins = autism, or is it

microsoft = autism, or maybe it's aluminum = autism...etc.

" markautismcharge " <mark.connolly.cgb5@...> wrote:

>

> I apologize for the poor attempt at humor. My " witty " comment

came

> from the fact that bones said the 0504 is the day his mother died

and

> someone wanted to know his real name so I tied it all in with a

> Norman Bates reference.

>

>

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Wasn't 0504 which would be May 2004 the date

when

> the

> > IOM

> > > > > > > finished

> > > > > > > > > their study and said Thimerisol is absolved lets

> move

> > on?

> > > > > > > > > I have given bones the benefit of the doubt but

now

> I

> > am

> > > > 100%

> > > > > > > > > convinced he works for the enemy or is the enemy

> > because

> > > no

> > > > > > > normal

> > > > > > > > > human being could so readily rationalize and

> dismiss

> > > 37,000

> > > > > > > > adverse

> > > > > > > > > reactions to a vaccine that should not even have

> been

> > > given

> > > > to

> > > > > > > > > infants that are hours old some in extremely

frail

> > > health..

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

With all due respect, taking mercury out of vaccines is a different

issue altogether than whether vaccines cause autism.

Toxicity is dose dependent. Consequently, the argument becomes not

whether mercury (in general) causes autism, rather does the

thimerosal in vaccines cause autism. There is a significant

difference.

....and I'm not saying one way or the other. Only that the arguement

is different.

> > > >

> > > > How long do you guys think it will take " bones " to run over

to

> > the ND

> > > > Abyss and talk and laugh about his experience here?

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Wasn't 0504 which would be May 2004 the date

> when

> > the

> > > IOM

> > > > > > > > finished

> > > > > > > > > > their study and said Thimerisol is absolved lets

> > move

> > > on?

> > > > > > > > > > I have given bones the benefit of the doubt but

> now

> > I

> > > am

> > > > > 100%

> > > > > > > > > > convinced he works for the enemy or is the enemy

> > > because

> > > > no

> > > > > > > > normal

> > > > > > > > > > human being could so readily rationalize and

> > dismiss

> > > > 37,000

> > > > > > > > > adverse

> > > > > > > > > > reactions to a vaccine that should not even have

> > been

> > > > given

> > > > > to

> > > > > > > > > > infants that are hours old some in extremely

> frail

> > > > health..

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

"...Or is it MMR > > that causes autism? Or is it environmental toxins = autism, or is it

> > microsoft = autism, or maybe it's aluminum = autism...etc..."

A very probable YES to all, although I would rather use the word 'triggers' or 'contributes to ASD phenotype' than 'causes':

http://www.autismcalciumchannelopathy.com/

for some of the answers to your questions look under 'Dysregulating Factors' on the left.

Natasa

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "markautismcharge" <mark.connolly.cgb5@> wrote:> > >> > > I apologize for the poor attempt at humor. My "witty " comment > > came > > > from the fact that bones said the 0504 is the day his mother died > > and > > > someone wanted to know his real name so I tied it all in with a > > > Norman Bates reference. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Wasn't 0504 which would be May 2004 the date > > when > > > the > > > > IOM > > > > > > > > > finished > > > > > > > > > > > their study and said Thimerisol is absolved lets > > > move > > > > on? > > > > > > > > > > > I have given bones the benefit of the doubt but > > now > > > I > > > > am > > > > > > 100% > > > > > > > > > > > convinced he works for the enemy or is the enemy > > > > because > > > > > no > > > > > > > > > normal > > > > > > > > > > > human being could so readily rationalize and > > > dismiss > > > > > 37,000 > > > > > > > > > > adverse > > > > > > > > > > > reactions to a vaccine that should not even have > > > been > > > > > given > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > infants that are hours old some in extremely > > frail > > > > > health..> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>

[Guest guest]

You seem to like a good debate. So do I, usually.

The problem is that autism doesn't exist - that is, there is no one

entity that is autism. It is merely a label for a constellation of

symptoms. So for some children who cannot rid the body of mercury,

the mercury deposits in the brain and causes " autism. " For others

who are impaired, the mercury affects the immune system - then when

the system is weakened and the mercury-free MMR is administered, the

live measles virus takes hold and causes " autism. " For some, the

vaccine load triggers ongoing ear infections and leads to causing

leaky gut due to overuse of antibiotics, and that causes " autism. "

And sometimes, due to a child's body makeup, this doesn't

cause " autism, " but it causes some other non-disorder constallation

of symptoms, like ADHD or learning disabilities, or it triggers the

immune system to go haywire.

You say only the dogmatic are afraid of opposing views. I'd agree

with you if this were merely discussion, but it isn't. The

opposition isn't a " view " - it's action that is resulting in

neurological damage to 1 in 6 of our children, at least. It's not a

view or idea or ideal we're debating. This isn't theory.

The " opposing viewpoint " is armed with a weapon we see as a danger to

our children. We've got sick children we are trying to help.

Despite this country being in the forefront of vaccinations and

medical advances, the US ranks in 33rd place for men (tied with Cuba)

and 32nd for women (tied with Costa Rica) in life expectancy. We

are raising a generation of children who have neurological damage,

attentional issues, learning issues, unpresidented autoimmune

diseases (in the form of allergies, asthma and diabetes), and for

whom bringing a peanut butter sandwich to school is becoming a thing

of the past, because in any typical classroom, for one of their

peers, a peanut is the kiss of death.

Something is stealing the health of our children.

R

> > > > >

> > > > > How long do you guys think it will take " bones " to run over

> to

> > > the ND

> > > > > Abyss and talk and laugh about his experience here?

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Oh, Bones, I didn't intend to make you defensive. Of course you can

talk to anyone you want = but the info is public today. Nothing is

private anymore. For any of us!

But since some here thought you were Kev, and Kev is indeed an active

member of the autism community, who reads this list regularly, who

works with a type of software that is connected to your screen name in

a rather convoluted way and Google is SO easy to use: Click, click and

up you popped. That's all. I'm not tracking you down for a date or

anything. I promise.

KIM

>

> God forbid I talk to anyone else.

[Guest guest]

Stalker! hahahahha

> >

> > God forbid I talk to anyone else.

>

[Guest guest]

Bones,

Since you seem to be familiar with logical

debate, let me point this out; even if some

autism is caused by factors other than mercury in

vaccines, that still does not mean that mercury

in vaccines hasn't caused some children to

develop autism. Saying this as a form of

argument in a debate is as much a fallacy as

someone flinging ad hominems around.

Kim

" Tell me Mr. Schaffer...if thimerosal = autism,

then why doesn't

evryone just chelate their child? It works

doesn't it? Or is it MMR

that causes autism? Or is it environmental toxins

= autism, or is it

microsoft = autism, or maybe it's aluminum =

autism...etc. "

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[Guest guest]

But to simply accept the notion that all things can be equal toxins

plays right into the hand that suggests we all gave them well over

27,000 gallons of tap water very many times during the course of our

former infants first six months of life.

That's actually safer dose-wise than a single thimerosal-containing

vaccine injection.

> > > > >

> > > > > How long do you guys think it will take " bones " to run over

> to

> > > the ND

> > > > > Abyss and talk and laugh about his experience here?

> > > >

> > >

> >

>