Re: My prediction came true-bones did what I expected him too.

[Guest guest]

Here is his swan song last post to the list, which I had held up until

now:

----------------------

Yeah, Len, thanks for avoiding my questions, and allowing others to

slam me and my family. Quite the intellectual discourse you have

here. You should be most proud.

By-the-by...my real name is Lilly Merck Kline, I am the bastard

child of Verstraeten & Gerberdine. How's that?

----------------------

My response:

There is no shame in being a bastard, no matter who your parents are.

Lenny

>

[Guest guest]

Here is his swan song last post to the list, which I had held up until

now:

----------------------

Yeah, Len, thanks for avoiding my questions, and allowing others to

slam me and my family. Quite the intellectual discourse you have

here. You should be most proud.

By-the-by...my real name is Lilly Merck Kline, I am the bastard

child of Verstraeten & Gerberdine. How's that?

----------------------

My response:

There is no shame in being a bastard, no matter who your parents are.

Lenny

>

[Guest guest]

Leitch uses a website called snapshot.compete.com to compare his blog's traffic

with other

websites, including evidenceofharm.com

So I tried his site against AutismMedia.org

WAY OFF.

It is far under-estimating traffic results for AutismMedia.org. By about an

order of 20!

But I'm sure it makes Leitch happy as a propoganda tool...

> " Doesn't his alias,bones0504, have something to do with boning his

> mother before she died? Maybe his real name is Norman. Thank you, I'm

> here all week, dark Sundays. "

>

> [my response…]

> Mark, if you weren't so feebleminded, I'd actually be mad, Although,

> I have to admit, I'm losing I.Q. points merely responding to this.

> Perhaps, you'd like to blame it on the vaccines I received some 30

> yrs ago.

>

> Mr. Schaffer, you should be ashamed of yourself for allowing such

> drivel (fyi: childish, silly, or meaningless talk or thinking;

> nonsense; twaddle) on your supposed insightful forum. All I've done

> is respond to questions posed to me, and all I've received in return

> are ad hominem attacks (def: appealing to one's prejudices, emotions,

> or special nterests rather than to one's intellect or reason;

> attacking an opponent's character rather than answering his

> argument). A debater commits the Ad Hominem Fallacy when he

> introduces irrelevant personal premisses about his opponent. Such red

> herrings

> may successfully distract the opponent or the audience from the topic

> of the debate.

>

> Tell me Mr. Schaffer…if thimerosal = autism, then why doesn't evryone

> just chelate their child? It works doesn't it? Or is it MMR that

> causes autism? Or is it environmental toxins = autism, or is it

> microsoft = autism, or maybe it's aluminum = autism…etc.

>

> I suppose it was only matter of time that I got booted as Mark

> Connolly and about 10 others of his hypocritical ilk dictate the flow

> and tenor of the posts (Len " Papa Bear " Schafer being the enabler). I

> truly believe, however, that they are not a true representation of

> the purpoted 1776 members.

>

> The Leninator told me he needed more information in order to verify

> my identity (go figure). I told him that my name is actually Lilly

> Merck Kline, the bastard love child of Verstraeten and

> Gerberdine.

>

> I don't think he found the humor in that….----

>

>

> hasn't " patted " bones0504 on the head yet for a job well done,

> but I'm sure it's coming.

>

>

>

> PS. Leninator, did he really tell you that was his name- Lilly Merck

> Kline? bones0504 what a pathetic excuse for a human being you are. So

> glad you think children suffering with health problems from their

> vaccines is something to make fun of...

>

[Guest guest]

Leitch uses a website called snapshot.compete.com to compare his blog's traffic

with other

websites, including evidenceofharm.com

So I tried his site against AutismMedia.org

WAY OFF.

It is far under-estimating traffic results for AutismMedia.org. By about an

order of 20!

But I'm sure it makes Leitch happy as a propoganda tool...

> " Doesn't his alias,bones0504, have something to do with boning his

> mother before she died? Maybe his real name is Norman. Thank you, I'm

> here all week, dark Sundays. "

>

> [my response…]

> Mark, if you weren't so feebleminded, I'd actually be mad, Although,

> I have to admit, I'm losing I.Q. points merely responding to this.

> Perhaps, you'd like to blame it on the vaccines I received some 30

> yrs ago.

>

> Mr. Schaffer, you should be ashamed of yourself for allowing such

> drivel (fyi: childish, silly, or meaningless talk or thinking;

> nonsense; twaddle) on your supposed insightful forum. All I've done

> is respond to questions posed to me, and all I've received in return

> are ad hominem attacks (def: appealing to one's prejudices, emotions,

> or special nterests rather than to one's intellect or reason;

> attacking an opponent's character rather than answering his

> argument). A debater commits the Ad Hominem Fallacy when he

> introduces irrelevant personal premisses about his opponent. Such red

> herrings

> may successfully distract the opponent or the audience from the topic

> of the debate.

>

> Tell me Mr. Schaffer…if thimerosal = autism, then why doesn't evryone

> just chelate their child? It works doesn't it? Or is it MMR that

> causes autism? Or is it environmental toxins = autism, or is it

> microsoft = autism, or maybe it's aluminum = autism…etc.

>

> I suppose it was only matter of time that I got booted as Mark

> Connolly and about 10 others of his hypocritical ilk dictate the flow

> and tenor of the posts (Len " Papa Bear " Schafer being the enabler). I

> truly believe, however, that they are not a true representation of

> the purpoted 1776 members.

>

> The Leninator told me he needed more information in order to verify

> my identity (go figure). I told him that my name is actually Lilly

> Merck Kline, the bastard love child of Verstraeten and

> Gerberdine.

>

> I don't think he found the humor in that….----

>

>

> hasn't " patted " bones0504 on the head yet for a job well done,

> but I'm sure it's coming.

>

>

>

> PS. Leninator, did he really tell you that was his name- Lilly Merck

> Kline? bones0504 what a pathetic excuse for a human being you are. So

> glad you think children suffering with health problems from their

> vaccines is something to make fun of...

>

[Guest guest]

Bones shows his true colors,he does not want to be accountable for

his actions(bomb throwing and mocking). I am happy that this board

will no longer be his playground although it would not surprise me if

he creates another alias and tries to get back in.

> " Doesn't his alias,bones0504, have something to do with boning his

> mother before she died? Maybe his real name is Norman. Thank you,

I'm

> here all week, dark Sundays. "

>

> [my response…]

> Mark, if you weren't so feebleminded, I'd actually be mad,

Although,

> I have to admit, I'm losing I.Q. points merely responding to this.

> Perhaps, you'd like to blame it on the vaccines I received some 30

> yrs ago.

>

> Mr. Schaffer, you should be ashamed of yourself for allowing such

> drivel (fyi: childish, silly, or meaningless talk or thinking;

> nonsense; twaddle) on your supposed insightful forum. All I've done

> is respond to questions posed to me, and all I've received in

return

> are ad hominem attacks (def: appealing to one's prejudices,

emotions,

> or special nterests rather than to one's intellect or reason;

> attacking an opponent's character rather than answering his

> argument). A debater commits the Ad Hominem Fallacy when he

> introduces irrelevant personal premisses about his opponent. Such

red

> herrings

> may successfully distract the opponent or the audience from the

topic

> of the debate.

>

> Tell me Mr. Schaffer…if thimerosal = autism, then why doesn't

evryone

> just chelate their child? It works doesn't it? Or is it MMR that

> causes autism? Or is it environmental toxins = autism, or is it

> microsoft = autism, or maybe it's aluminum = autism…etc.

>

> I suppose it was only matter of time that I got booted as Mark

> Connolly and about 10 others of his hypocritical ilk dictate the

flow

> and tenor of the posts (Len " Papa Bear " Schafer being the enabler).

I

> truly believe, however, that they are not a true representation of

> the purpoted 1776 members.

>

> The Leninator told me he needed more information in order to verify

> my identity (go figure). I told him that my name is actually Lilly

> Merck Kline, the bastard love child of Verstraeten and

> Gerberdine.

>

> I don't think he found the humor in that….----

>

>

> hasn't " patted " bones0504 on the head yet for a job well

done,

> but I'm sure it's coming.

>

>

>

> PS. Leninator, did he really tell you that was his name- Lilly

Merck

> Kline? bones0504 what a pathetic excuse for a human being you are.

So

> glad you think children suffering with health problems from their

> vaccines is something to make fun of...

>

[Guest guest]

Bones shows his true colors,he does not want to be accountable for

his actions(bomb throwing and mocking). I am happy that this board

will no longer be his playground although it would not surprise me if

he creates another alias and tries to get back in.

> " Doesn't his alias,bones0504, have something to do with boning his

> mother before she died? Maybe his real name is Norman. Thank you,

I'm

> here all week, dark Sundays. "

>

> [my response…]

> Mark, if you weren't so feebleminded, I'd actually be mad,

Although,

> I have to admit, I'm losing I.Q. points merely responding to this.

> Perhaps, you'd like to blame it on the vaccines I received some 30

> yrs ago.

>

> Mr. Schaffer, you should be ashamed of yourself for allowing such

> drivel (fyi: childish, silly, or meaningless talk or thinking;

> nonsense; twaddle) on your supposed insightful forum. All I've done

> is respond to questions posed to me, and all I've received in

return

> are ad hominem attacks (def: appealing to one's prejudices,

emotions,

> or special nterests rather than to one's intellect or reason;

> attacking an opponent's character rather than answering his

> argument). A debater commits the Ad Hominem Fallacy when he

> introduces irrelevant personal premisses about his opponent. Such

red

> herrings

> may successfully distract the opponent or the audience from the

topic

> of the debate.

>

> Tell me Mr. Schaffer…if thimerosal = autism, then why doesn't

evryone

> just chelate their child? It works doesn't it? Or is it MMR that

> causes autism? Or is it environmental toxins = autism, or is it

> microsoft = autism, or maybe it's aluminum = autism…etc.

>

> I suppose it was only matter of time that I got booted as Mark

> Connolly and about 10 others of his hypocritical ilk dictate the

flow

> and tenor of the posts (Len " Papa Bear " Schafer being the enabler).

I

> truly believe, however, that they are not a true representation of

> the purpoted 1776 members.

>

> The Leninator told me he needed more information in order to verify

> my identity (go figure). I told him that my name is actually Lilly

> Merck Kline, the bastard love child of Verstraeten and

> Gerberdine.

>

> I don't think he found the humor in that….----

>

>

> hasn't " patted " bones0504 on the head yet for a job well

done,

> but I'm sure it's coming.

>

>

>

> PS. Leninator, did he really tell you that was his name- Lilly

Merck

> Kline? bones0504 what a pathetic excuse for a human being you are.

So

> glad you think children suffering with health problems from their

> vaccines is something to make fun of...

>

[Guest guest]

<< There is no shame in being a bastard, no matter who your parents

are. >>

That is brilliant. Copyright it, and submit it claiming authorship to

one of those online quotation anthologies!

--Chitra

[Guest guest]

<< There is no shame in being a bastard, no matter who your parents

are. >>

That is brilliant. Copyright it, and submit it claiming authorship to

one of those online quotation anthologies!

--Chitra

[Guest guest]

>

>

> << There is no shame in being a bastard, no matter who your parents

> are. >>

>

>

> That is brilliant. Copyright it, and submit it claiming authorship to

> one of those online quotation anthologies!

>

> --Chitra

Thank you Chitra, for the applause.

I must most humbly warn that when one comes on to me with repartee,

you're swordfighting with Zorro. Now I must make the sign of the " Z "

Z-Z-Z-z-z-z

Lenny

[Guest guest]

u can't make this stuff up.

I WOULD like to congratulate the members of the list who pegged this guy from the get go.

Heidi

From: "andrea52521991" <mkeller@...>Reply-EOHarm To: EOHarm Subject: My prediction came true-bones did what I expected him too.Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 14:41:52 -0000

In all the "bones0504" "Jack Torrance" hoopla over the last few days I asked the group- how long it would take him to go run over to Neuro-diversity Insanity-land. Not long....Here is his post just a little over 2 hours old:bones.0504 : 2 hours, 43 minutes ago Hey Kev,Well it happened. I was booted from the EoH goup for being an antagonist.

[Guest guest]

Sad thing is we want these types here so we have documentary evidence

of discourse, unfortunately the herd mentality here prevents true

documented debate.

If a tree falls and noone is there to hear it (or make money) to prove

it?

We need to welcome the Jack Torrances and slay them with proof,

otherwise we are nothing but a group of Don Quixote's tilting at

windmills.

And we need to do it in a way that will be acceptable to others,

meaning professional courtesy's (even if not felt) apply.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.....

[Guest guest]

Sad thing is we want these types here so we have documentary evidence

of discourse, unfortunately the herd mentality here prevents true

documented debate.

If a tree falls and noone is there to hear it (or make money) to prove

it?

We need to welcome the Jack Torrances and slay them with proof,

otherwise we are nothing but a group of Don Quixote's tilting at

windmills.

And we need to do it in a way that will be acceptable to others,

meaning professional courtesy's (even if not felt) apply.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.....

[Guest guest]

Chis,

since you are big on debate,I thought I would check out the debates you

have been involved in on this board,I could not find any posts that

show debate under chapdoggy.Have you debated here under a different

name?

unfortunately the herd mentality here prevents true

documented debate.

>

> Sad thing is we want these types here so we have documentary evidence

> of discourse, unfortunately the herd mentality here prevents true

> documented debate.

>

> If a tree falls and noone is there to hear it (or make money) to

prove

> it?

>

> We need to welcome the Jack Torrances and slay them with proof,

> otherwise we are nothing but a group of Don Quixote's tilting at

> windmills.

>

> And we need to do it in a way that will be acceptable to others,

> meaning professional courtesy's (even if not felt) apply.

>

> Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.....

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Sad thing is we want these types here so we have documentary evidence

> of discourse, unfortunately the herd mentality here prevents true

> documented debate.

-snip-

>

> Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.....

>

Let me rob you of your sad burden. Lilly Bones didn't document Jack.

Lenny

[Guest guest]

>

> Sad thing is we want these types here so we have documentary evidence

> of discourse, unfortunately the herd mentality here prevents true

> documented debate.

-snip-

>

> Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.....

>

Let me rob you of your sad burden. Lilly Bones didn't document Jack.

Lenny

[Guest guest]

, I know Chris' wife - we have NO problems at all here. I have

had cocktails with Chris' wife. I chat with her DAILY. She is on this

list and many others. I repeat, is in no way any sort of

problem. Please don't hassle him.

Kim

>

> since you are big on debate,I thought I would check out the debates

you

> have been involved in on this board,I could not find any posts that

> show debate under chapdoggy.Have you debated here under a different

> name?

[Guest guest]

, I know Chris' wife - we have NO problems at all here. I have

had cocktails with Chris' wife. I chat with her DAILY. She is on this

list and many others. I repeat, is in no way any sort of

problem. Please don't hassle him.

Kim

>

> since you are big on debate,I thought I would check out the debates

you

> have been involved in on this board,I could not find any posts that

> show debate under chapdoggy.Have you debated here under a different

> name?

[Guest guest]

Excuse me Kim, but I believe Chris' comments to the group intiated

's comments.

's comments seem reactionary to Chris' post.

So I think you got it backwards.

At least that is my perception.

>

> , I know Chris' wife - we have NO problems at all here. I have

> had cocktails with Chris' wife. I chat with her DAILY. She is on

this

> list and many others. I repeat, is in no way any sort of

> problem. Please don't hassle him.

>

> Kim

>

> >

> > since you are big on debate,I thought I would check out the debates

> you

> > have been involved in on this board,I could not find any posts that

> > show debate under chapdoggy.Have you debated here under a different

> > name?

>

[Guest guest]

Excuse me Kim, but I believe Chris' comments to the group intiated

's comments.

's comments seem reactionary to Chris' post.

So I think you got it backwards.

At least that is my perception.

>

> , I know Chris' wife - we have NO problems at all here. I have

> had cocktails with Chris' wife. I chat with her DAILY. She is on

this

> list and many others. I repeat, is in no way any sort of

> problem. Please don't hassle him.

>

> Kim

>

> >

> > since you are big on debate,I thought I would check out the debates

> you

> > have been involved in on this board,I could not find any posts that

> > show debate under chapdoggy.Have you debated here under a different

> > name?

>

[Guest guest]

Well, it would be nice if more helped out. Still, you have to be

careful for what you wish for.

For instance, I'd bet chapdoggy doesn't know the mercury toxicity of

a Mc's cheeseburger nor how many it'd take to equal one

thimerosal-containing vaccine exposure anon.

Still we are expected to believe people with no sense that it is

these ambient resources of neurotoxic sustenance causing the brain

reactions in infants and toddlers and not the direct, needled in

neurotoxin.

It has been historically the crime to not document anything more

significant than loose teeth and assorted vomits and gushing bowels.

Yes, there are doctors, even today, who actually believe that putting

mercury into babies is an essential part of a balanced diet. You

can't make this stuff up. Look who's fighting the continued efforts

to ban the stuff?

Putting mercury into babies is stupid, stupid, stupid, dumb.

> >

> > Sad thing is we want these types here so we have documentary

evidence

> > of discourse, unfortunately the herd mentality here prevents true

> > documented debate.

> >

> > If a tree falls and noone is there to hear it (or make money) to

> prove

> > it?

> >

> > We need to welcome the Jack Torrances and slay them with proof,

> > otherwise we are nothing but a group of Don Quixote's tilting at

> > windmills.

> >

> > And we need to do it in a way that will be acceptable to others,

> > meaning professional courtesy's (even if not felt) apply.

> >

> > Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.....

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Well, it would be nice if more helped out. Still, you have to be

careful for what you wish for.

For instance, I'd bet chapdoggy doesn't know the mercury toxicity of

a Mc's cheeseburger nor how many it'd take to equal one

thimerosal-containing vaccine exposure anon.

Still we are expected to believe people with no sense that it is

these ambient resources of neurotoxic sustenance causing the brain

reactions in infants and toddlers and not the direct, needled in

neurotoxin.

It has been historically the crime to not document anything more

significant than loose teeth and assorted vomits and gushing bowels.

Yes, there are doctors, even today, who actually believe that putting

mercury into babies is an essential part of a balanced diet. You

can't make this stuff up. Look who's fighting the continued efforts

to ban the stuff?

Putting mercury into babies is stupid, stupid, stupid, dumb.

> >

> > Sad thing is we want these types here so we have documentary

evidence

> > of discourse, unfortunately the herd mentality here prevents true

> > documented debate.

> >

> > If a tree falls and noone is there to hear it (or make money) to

> prove

> > it?

> >

> > We need to welcome the Jack Torrances and slay them with proof,

> > otherwise we are nothing but a group of Don Quixote's tilting at

> > windmills.

> >

> > And we need to do it in a way that will be acceptable to others,

> > meaning professional courtesy's (even if not felt) apply.

> >

> > Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.....

> >

>

[Guest guest]

, I'm simply trying to point out that is a good guy, not a

lurker. He's the father of an ASD child and the husband of a warrior

in our community.

K

[Guest guest]

, I'm simply trying to point out that is a good guy, not a

lurker. He's the father of an ASD child and the husband of a warrior

in our community.

K

[Guest guest]

I realize that Kim. I am just saying posted something admonishing

the group for not engaging bones in a intelligent debtate. bones was

not here to debate anything in an intelligent manner.

His presence on this list was solely to antagonize and initiate

arguments. A far cry from -intelligent debate.

His comments on Kev Letich's blog clearly show that. I mean I'm still

laughing at the bastard child comment of Verstraten and

Gerberding comment- Lilly Merck Kline. I mean isn't that funny?

If someone comes here respectfully attempting to engage the group in an

intelligent debate I believe they will be treated in the manner in

which they present themself. Otherwise they will be treated as bones

was. He got what he gave. IMO.

>

> , I'm simply trying to point out that is a good guy, not

a

> lurker. He's the father of an ASD child and the husband of a

warrior

> in our community.

>

> K

>

[Guest guest]

,

It is true that I am not the most active poster here as I tend to use

it as a site to educate myself mostly. As well as keep up with my

wife who is a very active poster here and on many other

boards/groups so I know what she is talking about when I get home

from work and can talk intelligently about that day's big story with

her.

My wife does most of the heavy lifting on the bio-med, education, and

treatment front for our son CJ. While I do the heavy lifting on

running my company and paying the bills so she can be a stay at home

mom to him and our two daughters and be a full time Autism

researcher/advocate.

My point was that I would rather see people allowed here to debate

contrarian views and not wind up treated in a way that kindergartners

would behave. I think it would make the site more educational for all

of us that sit in the background and read and educate ourselves,

which I think are way more then the regular ten to twenty folks that

post repeatedly.

Chris

> >

> > Sad thing is we want these types here so we have documentary

evidence

> > of discourse, unfortunately the herd mentality here prevents true

> > documented debate.

> >

> > If a tree falls and noone is there to hear it (or make money) to

> prove

> > it?

> >

> > We need to welcome the Jack Torrances and slay them with proof,

> > otherwise we are nothing but a group of Don Quixote's tilting at

> > windmills.

> >

> > And we need to do it in a way that will be acceptable to others,

> > meaning professional courtesy's (even if not felt) apply.

> >

> > Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.....

> >

>