Re: Early Detection of Autism in Babies

May 16, 2007

Good for you Becky. I would also consider

refusing the ultrasounds. After the first

tri-mester, they're not accurate at all in

determining fetal size/age. Often these tests

are used late in pregnancy to convince the mother

into early inducement/c-section because the baby

might be " too big "

Many doctors also love to give ultrasounds, which

may cause problems these docs don't realize.

Check the info out online.

Kim

--- Becky Grant-Widen

<bgrantwiden@...> wrote:

> Being pregnant, I have been very disturbed by

> all I have heard about the

> high rate of abortion of DS babies due to the

> newer testing. The

> implications for autism are indeed chilling.

>

> At my last appt the OB was pushing hard this

> new test done between 12

> and 14 weeks that is a blood/Ultrasound combo

> that can supposedly tell

> if a baby has Down's. I'm an old bird now it

> seems, they said they do it

> for mothers of 'Advanced Maternal Age'. LOL

>

> I said I wouldn't terminate no matter what the

> outcome so the test seems

> irrelevant. He said they would treat the

> pregnancy differently, which

> may be true. I let them make the appointment

> and cancelled the next day.

> The guy at the medical center that does the

> test was so disappointed, it

> was odd. I told him I have high deductible

> insurance, so would have to

> foot the entire bill ($600-800). I said I'd

> rather spend the money on my

> child with autism. He offered a payment plan

> and said it's not like I

> make any money off of this.

>

> Weird comment to make. I was very polite and

> friendly about the whole

> thing so don't know why he would say that.

>

> The more I think about it, I don't want to

> support this type of testing

> by participating if the outcome is destroying

> DS babies. That is what

> I'll be telling the OB Thursday at my next

> appt. when he asks why I

> didn't do the test.

>

> Becky

>

> Re: Re: Early Detection of

> Autism in Babies

>

> This is the resurgence of eugenics, only this

> time the " War Against The

> Weak " will be waged against the unborn child

> and then, if born, the

> world will blame the child and his/her parents

> for existing, thereby

> justifying their suffering.

>

> This historical thread is extremely dangerous

> and has a strong precedent

> in our culture. It follows an ideology that

> elevates a theory of

> genetics (little to do with science) above

> other values.

>

> On May 15, 2007, at 3:51 PM, andrea52521991

> wrote:

>

> Your post gave me chills. I think you are very

> right about the path

> we are being led down.

>

> >

> > Follow up - the letters to the editor after

> the NYT article talking

> > about trying to " drum up " support for kids

> with Down Syndrome ran

> 10 -

> > 1 with a theme of " Why SHOULD a parent HAVE

> to have a child with a

> > defect? " Even doctors were writing in saying

> with this tone.

> >

> > I foresee society telling parents, " You knew

> you were having a

> > defective child, you deal with it, you pay

> for it, we told you to

> abort

> > it. "

> >

> > Disclaimer!

> >

> > I'm pro-choice. I am not sad that Jerry

> Falwell has died and I hope

> he

> > brought a portable AC unit when he went (he

> once looked my sister

> in

> > the eye and told her she was wrong for being

> a Catholic.) But I

> am

> > horrified at the prospect of being " expected "

> to abort a child who

> MAY

> > or MAY NOT need today's standards of

> acceptability.

> >

> > K

> >

>

> J. Krakow

> Attorney At Law

> 2001 Marcus Avenue, Suite N125

> Lake Success, New York 11042

> (516) 354-3300

> (646) 349-1771 (fax)

> (212) 227-0600 (NYC telephone)

>

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May 16, 2007

Hey, - I apologize if I offended you, or your religion.

Kim

May 16, 2007

Hey, - I apologize if I offended you, or your religion.

Kim

May 16, 2007

I just checked out the comments people are leaving about the article.

It's so transparent; let's get kids on meds at an even earlier age.

Carolyn

p.s. to . Just ignore that chump on our " other " list.

Apparently, he likes to fight and then play innocent.

> >

> > Last night in the wee hours of the night on CNN they reported that

> > there is new early detection of Autism for babies.

> >

> > This morning I've searched all over the CNN website and can't

locate

> > the story.

> >

> > If anyone has come across this story, please share the website.

> >

> > My family and I just spent the weekend with my niece who is 8

months

> > old and is showing some characteristics to autism or some other

> > neurological issues. She is not making eye contact, not smiling,

not

> > responding to her name, not crawling or sitting up. She is still

> > spitting up badly and is very sensitive and gets easily upsets at

> loud

> > noises.

> >

> > This is very distressing to the family. I am perplexed on whether

> > there is still mercury in the vaccines or the amount of vaccines

> > itself that a baby is given at one visit is causing this.

> >

> > One thing the whole family has agreed on is that her father has

some

> > form of Asperger. He is literally a rocket scientist and has all

the

> > checklist of Asperger. So there is some genetics to this.

> >

> > Any info on the above that anyone would like to share will be

> greatly

> > appreciated.

> >

> > Jacky

> >

>

May 16, 2007

I just checked out the comments people are leaving about the article.

It's so transparent; let's get kids on meds at an even earlier age.

Carolyn

p.s. to . Just ignore that chump on our " other " list.

Apparently, he likes to fight and then play innocent.

> >

> > Last night in the wee hours of the night on CNN they reported that

> > there is new early detection of Autism for babies.

> >

> > This morning I've searched all over the CNN website and can't

locate

> > the story.

> >

> > If anyone has come across this story, please share the website.

> >

> > My family and I just spent the weekend with my niece who is 8

months

> > old and is showing some characteristics to autism or some other

> > neurological issues. She is not making eye contact, not smiling,

not

> > responding to her name, not crawling or sitting up. She is still

> > spitting up badly and is very sensitive and gets easily upsets at

> loud

> > noises.

> >

> > This is very distressing to the family. I am perplexed on whether

> > there is still mercury in the vaccines or the amount of vaccines

> > itself that a baby is given at one visit is causing this.

> >

> > One thing the whole family has agreed on is that her father has

some

> > form of Asperger. He is literally a rocket scientist and has all

the

> > checklist of Asperger. So there is some genetics to this.

> >

> > Any info on the above that anyone would like to share will be

> greatly

> > appreciated.

> >

> > Jacky

> >

>

May 16, 2007

Yes, I noticed that. That's where the OK... smiley face came from.

I saw your post about the TIme magazine article and the child with

Down Syndrome being starved to death. I'm going to go read it now.

Thanks Carolyn.

> > >

> > > Last night in the wee hours of the night on CNN they reported

that

> > > there is new early detection of Autism for babies.

> > >

> > > This morning I've searched all over the CNN website and can't

> locate

> > > the story.

> > >

> > > If anyone has come across this story, please share the website.

> > >

> > > My family and I just spent the weekend with my niece who is 8

> months

> > > old and is showing some characteristics to autism or some other

> > > neurological issues. She is not making eye contact, not

smiling,

> not

> > > responding to her name, not crawling or sitting up. She is still

> > > spitting up badly and is very sensitive and gets easily upsets

at

> > loud

> > > noises.

> > >

> > > This is very distressing to the family. I am perplexed on

whether

> > > there is still mercury in the vaccines or the amount of vaccines

> > > itself that a baby is given at one visit is causing this.

> > >

> > > One thing the whole family has agreed on is that her father has

> some

> > > form of Asperger. He is literally a rocket scientist and has

all

> the

> > > checklist of Asperger. So there is some genetics to this.

> > >

> > > Any info on the above that anyone would like to share will be

> > greatly

> > > appreciated.

> > >

> > > Jacky

> > >

> >

>

May 16, 2007

>

> I¹m sorry. But, Planned Parenthood¹s mission is not to kill all the

> non-white babies.

Never said that. No, it is not Planned Parenthood's mission to kill

" all the non-white babies " . Their original mission was to reduce more

minority babies than white babies, however. Planned Parenthood

intentionally set up all their mills in urban ethnic ghettos first,

and not in white, suburban neighborhoods. Their racist, eugenics

origins are no secret, not even to the post modern white suburban

feminists who later came along to help.

Lenny

May 16, 2007

>

> I¹m sorry. But, Planned Parenthood¹s mission is not to kill all the

> non-white babies.

Never said that. No, it is not Planned Parenthood's mission to kill

" all the non-white babies " . Their original mission was to reduce more

minority babies than white babies, however. Planned Parenthood

intentionally set up all their mills in urban ethnic ghettos first,

and not in white, suburban neighborhoods. Their racist, eugenics

origins are no secret, not even to the post modern white suburban

feminists who later came along to help.

Lenny

May 16, 2007

apology excepted

>

> Hey, - I apologize if I offended you, or your religion.

>

> Kim

>

May 16, 2007

apology excepted

>

> Hey, - I apologize if I offended you, or your religion.

>

> Kim

>

May 16, 2007

As repugnant as eugenics is- and there is no more vile philosophy than that...

They don't even know what they're doing!

Re: Early Detection of Autism in Babies

> That's what the founder of PP (Margaret Sanger) was all about -- shewas a Hitler worshiper.Actually, it was the other way around. Hitler was inspired by theAmerican Planned Parenthood movement, which started out beingexpressly about eugenics. The German extermination camps were allabout "fourth term" abortions, after all, in the service of eugenics. A much higher percentage of minority pregnancies get terminated inabortion (33%) than do white pregnancies (25%). Planned Parenthood isfulfilling its mission.The minute the Autism "The Borg" Speaks researchers come up with aprenatal genetic blood test for "autism", all further research intoautism will grind to a halt -- just as it did for Down Syndrom whenthey developed the prenatal test for it. Lenny

May 16, 2007

As repugnant as eugenics is- and there is no more vile philosophy than that...

They don't even know what they're doing!

Re: Early Detection of Autism in Babies

> That's what the founder of PP (Margaret Sanger) was all about -- shewas a Hitler worshiper.Actually, it was the other way around. Hitler was inspired by theAmerican Planned Parenthood movement, which started out beingexpressly about eugenics. The German extermination camps were allabout "fourth term" abortions, after all, in the service of eugenics. A much higher percentage of minority pregnancies get terminated inabortion (33%) than do white pregnancies (25%). Planned Parenthood isfulfilling its mission.The minute the Autism "The Borg" Speaks researchers come up with aprenatal genetic blood test for "autism", all further research intoautism will grind to a halt -- just as it did for Down Syndrom whenthey developed the prenatal test for it. Lenny

May 16, 2007

Jacky,

There are things

you can do right away to help a child who looks possibly on the spectrum at 8

months. Removal of dairy (no soy either), making sure each food it tested

by itself to see any reactions that include excessive crying or sleep

disturbances, do not introduce gluten products, no food dyes, etc. Start

early intervention, put the baby on it’s belly and place desired objects

out of their reach slightly to help initiate a creep and later the crawl.

These are all things that can help as well as getting a DAN would be like

Maureen suggested.

As far as

genetics, I know my genetic situation is do to environmental exposures to

mercury (industry, living at the top of a hill right where a paper plant spewed

it’s treasures), my mother had a thermometer break in her mouth, she grew

up in a town with a thermometer factory that is just now settling lawsuits for

the workers because they are all sick and high levels of mercury were found in

their homes and in the water. Genetic predisposition is also toxic exposure

and muting genes in my opinion. The vaccines with live viruses and

thimerosal are the triggers to send them over the edge. Did your niece’s

mother receive a flu shot while pregnant, have dental work when she had

amalgams? There are so many things to set these kids up for immune

malfunction. The trick is to recognize it and start the process of

healing as early as possible.

Good luck, it

always kills me to hear of and see new cases. My friend just had a baby

and she has a daughter with Aspergers. I’m secretly already worried

about him and he’s 1 month. He would not look at me and seemed

unresponsive to verbal cues even close up to his ear but went crazy (kicking

and looking) at a picture of a monkey. I’m praying more than

anything that I am wrong!! -

From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of jackiecat3

Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 2:30

PM

EOHarm

Subject: Early Detection

of Autism in Babies

Last night in the wee hours of the night on CNN they reported that

there is new early detection of Autism for babies.

This morning I've searched all over the CNN website and can't locate

the story.

If anyone has come across this story, please share the website.

My family and I just spent the weekend with my niece who is 8 months

old and is showing some characteristics to autism or some other

neurological issues. She is not making eye contact, not smiling, not

responding to her name, not crawling or sitting up. She is still

spitting up badly and is very sensitive and gets easily upsets at loud

noises.

This is very distressing to the family. I am perplexed on whether

there is still mercury in the vaccines or the amount of vaccines

itself that a baby is given at one visit is causing this.

One thing the whole family has agreed on is that her father has some

form of Asperger. He is literally a rocket scientist and has all the

checklist of Asperger. So there is some genetics to this.

Any info on the above that anyone would like to share will be greatly

appreciated.

Jacky

May 16, 2007