Guest guest Posted May 4, 2007 Report Share Posted May 4, 2007 Yup - that's why posting should be done sparingly. Oddly, the CDC has turned up with EOH information in the past. > > > > Great, > > I rarely post anything, and now I'll probably be quoted on some > neurodiverse website or group for calling Fombonne a desperate fool > who as a psychiatrist attempted to do a toxicological study. > > I hate lurkers. I really hate them. How do they not have anything > better to do than harrass people? > > > > > > --------- Re: No Link Between Mercury And Autism: Study > > > > Ok. Got it. You need to admister a chelator in order to accurately > > determine overall body burden. You guys have been very helpful, > > thanks. > > > > Once you get that number (or level), how do you then go about > > determining what amount is ethyl-Hg (ie, from the vax) as opposed > to > > methyl-Hg? > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell? > > > > > Check outnew cars at Autos. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2007 Report Share Posted May 4, 2007 If you go back and look after Fombonne’s last study there were many posts with the same types of questions from twoweassles. Gauging what our response to Fombonne would be, these questions just feel very much the same…However it’s possible Henry views are just rubbing off on me…. From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of Gilmore Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 10:38 AM EOHarm Subject: Re: No Link Between Mercury And Autism: Study What do yo mean? > > I agree Henry. Same thing happened after Fombonne's last study with > twoweassles. > > > > _____ > > From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of H > > Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 9:31 AM > EOHarm > Subject: Re: Re: No Link Between Mercury And Autism: Study > > > > I detect a probe. > > > > > > Re: No Link Between Mercury And Autism: Study > > > > Ok. Got it. You need to admister a chelator in order to accurately > determine overall body burden. You guys have been very helpful, > thanks. > > Once you get that number (or level), how do you then go about > determining what amount is ethyl-Hg (ie, from the vax) as opposed to > methyl-Hg? > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell? > > > > Check outnew cars at Autos. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2007 Report Share Posted May 4, 2007 , Do you still like cheese? > > > > > > Great, > > > I rarely post anything, and now I'll probably be quoted on some > > neurodiverse website or group for calling Fombonne a desperate fool > > who as a psychiatrist attempted to do a toxicological study. > > > I hate lurkers. I really hate them. How do they not have anything > > better to do than harrass people? > > > > > > > > > --------- Re: No Link Between Mercury And Autism: Study > > > > > > Ok. Got it. You need to admister a chelator in order to > accurately > > > determine overall body burden. You guys have been very helpful, > > > thanks. > > > > > > Once you get that number (or level), how do you then go about > > > determining what amount is ethyl-Hg (ie, from the vax) as opposed > > to > > > methyl-Hg? > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell? > > > > > > Check outnew cars at Autos. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2007 Report Share Posted May 4, 2007 No - My son's casomorphin case back off the charts. However, spare ribs with GFCF bbq sauce are still fair game... > > > > > > > > Great, > > > > I rarely post anything, and now I'll probably be quoted on some > > > neurodiverse website or group for calling Fombonne a desperate > fool > > > who as a psychiatrist attempted to do a toxicological study. > > > > I hate lurkers. I really hate them. How do they not have > anything > > > better to do than harrass people? > > > > > > > > > > > > --------- Re: No Link Between Mercury And Autism: Study > > > > > > > > Ok. Got it. You need to admister a chelator in order to > > accurately > > > > determine overall body burden. You guys have been very helpful, > > > > thanks. > > > > > > > > Once you get that number (or level), how do you then go about > > > > determining what amount is ethyl-Hg (ie, from the vax) as > opposed > > > to > > > > methyl-Hg? > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell? > > > > > > > Check outnew cars at Autos. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2007 Report Share Posted May 4, 2007 It was suggested that this " bones " fella is actually Leitch of the UK. Sad. > > Great, > I rarely post anything, and now I'll probably be quoted on some neurodiverse website or group for calling Fombonne a desperate fool who as a psychiatrist attempted to do a toxicological study. > I hate lurkers. I really hate them. How do they not have anything better to do than harrass people? > > > --------- Re: No Link Between Mercury And Autism: Study > > Ok. Got it. You need to admister a chelator in order to accurately > determine overall body burden. You guys have been very helpful, > thanks. > > Once you get that number (or level), how do you then go about > determining what amount is ethyl-Hg (ie, from the vax) as opposed to > methyl-Hg? > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell? > > > > Check outnew cars at Autos. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2007 Report Share Posted May 4, 2007 First, let me apologize if I have offended anyone. Certainly not my intention. As I stated in my profile, I am new to all this, and am learning the ropes, as it were. I thought this was a place where I could have some questions answered that no one else sems to be able to answer. I am at a loss... > > Great, > I rarely post anything, and now I'll probably be quoted on some neurodiverse website or group for calling Fombonne a desperate fool who as a psychiatrist attempted to do a toxicological study. > I hate lurkers. I really hate them. How do they not have anything better to do than harrass people? > > > --------- Re: No Link Between Mercury And Autism: Study > > Ok. Got it. You need to admister a chelator in order to accurately > determine overall body burden. You guys have been very helpful, > thanks. > > Once you get that number (or level), how do you then go about > determining what amount is ethyl-Hg (ie, from the vax) as opposed to > methyl-Hg? > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell? > > > > Check outnew cars at Autos. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2007 Report Share Posted May 4, 2007 Didn't bones just take a spaceship ride to spend eternity in orbit? Or was that y? > > > > Great, > > I rarely post anything, and now I'll probably be quoted on some neurodiverse website or > group for calling Fombonne a desperate fool who as a psychiatrist attempted to do a > toxicological study. > > I hate lurkers. I really hate them. How do they not have anything better to do than > harrass people? > > > > > > --------- Re: No Link Between Mercury And Autism: Study > > > > Ok. Got it. You need to admister a chelator in order to accurately > > determine overall body burden. You guys have been very helpful, > > thanks. > > > > Once you get that number (or level), how do you then go about > > determining what amount is ethyl-Hg (ie, from the vax) as opposed to > > methyl-Hg? > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell? > > > > > Check outnew cars at Autos. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2007 Report Share Posted May 4, 2007 OK. Got it. Like the skull and crossBONES found on a bottle of the poisonous neurotoxin Thimerosal. > > > > > > I agree Henry. Same thing happened after Fombonne's last study > > with > > > twoweassles. > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On > > Behalf Of H > > > > > > Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 9:31 AM > > > EOHarm > > > Subject: Re: Re: No Link Between Mercury And Autism: > Study > > > > > > > > > > > > I detect a probe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Re: No Link Between Mercury And Autism: Study > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok. Got it. You need to admister a chelator in order to > accurately > > > determine overall body burden. You guys have been very helpful, > > > thanks. > > > > > > Once you get that number (or level), how do you then go about > > > determining what amount is ethyl-Hg (ie, from the vax) as > opposed > > to > > > methyl-Hg? > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell? > > > > > > Check outnew cars at Autos. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2007 Report Share Posted May 4, 2007 No one is offended, just wary... Re: No Link Between Mercury And Autism: Study> > Ok. Got it. You need to admister a chelator in order to accurately > determine overall body burden. You guys have been very helpful, > thanks.> > Once you get that number (or level), how do you then go about > determining what amount is ethyl-Hg (ie, from the vax) as opposed to > methyl-Hg?> > > > ---------------------------------> > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell?> > > > Check outnew cars at Autos.> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2007 Report Share Posted May 4, 2007 If you are looking for treatment options for a child you may be better off visiting other sites such as generation rescue, autism- mercury group, ARI, autismmedia, etc. > > > > Great, > > I rarely post anything, and now I'll probably be quoted on some > neurodiverse website or group for calling Fombonne a desperate fool > who as a psychiatrist attempted to do a toxicological study. > > I hate lurkers. I really hate them. How do they not have anything > better to do than harrass people? > > > > > > --------- Re: No Link Between Mercury And Autism: Study > > > > Ok. Got it. You need to admister a chelator in order to accurately > > determine overall body burden. You guys have been very helpful, > > thanks. > > > > Once you get that number (or level), how do you then go about > > determining what amount is ethyl-Hg (ie, from the vax) as opposed > to > > methyl-Hg? > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell? > > > > > Check outnew cars at Autos. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2007 Report Share Posted May 4, 2007 Considering the ethyl mercury has been found to convert to elemental mercury once in storage it may be relatively easy if you have the right equipment. Most labs will probably not differentiate between different forms of organic mercury (I know the lab we used did not). Really it matters little unless you are trying to specifically sue or defend for a single exposure source. My opinion is that ALL forms of mercury are deleterious and ALL sources of exposure need to share in the burden of cleaning up their mess and paying for their damages. Re: No Link Between Mercury And Autism: Study Posted by: " bones.0504 " bones.0504@... bones.0504 Fri May 4, 2007 6:16 am (PST) Ok. Got it. You need to admister a chelator in order to accurately determine overall body burden. You guys have been very helpful, thanks. Once you get that number (or level), how do you then go about determining what amount is ethyl-Hg (ie, from the vax) as opposed to methyl-Hg? __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2007 Report Share Posted May 4, 2007 Thank you. > > > > > > Great, > > > I rarely post anything, and now I'll probably be quoted on some > > neurodiverse website or group for calling Fombonne a desperate > fool > > who as a psychiatrist attempted to do a toxicological study. > > > I hate lurkers. I really hate them. How do they not have > anything > > better to do than harrass people? > > > > > > > > > --------- Re: No Link Between Mercury And Autism: Study > > > > > > Ok. Got it. You need to admister a chelator in order to > accurately > > > determine overall body burden. You guys have been very helpful, > > > thanks. > > > > > > Once you get that number (or level), how do you then go about > > > determining what amount is ethyl-Hg (ie, from the vax) as > opposed > > to > > > methyl-Hg? > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell? > > > > > > Check outnew cars at Autos. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2007 Report Share Posted May 4, 2007 Bones, Just wondering what the significance of today's date is in your screen name? thanks,Heidi From: "markautismcharge" <mark.connolly.cgb5@...>Reply-EOHarm To: EOHarm Subject: Re: No Link Between Mercury And Autism: StudyDate: Fri, 04 May 2007 17:50:31 -0000 If you are looking for treatment options for a child you may be better off visiting other sites such as generation rescue, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2007 Report Share Posted May 4, 2007 No offense, but I don't think that you do got it OK. There's a lot of information in the archives of the listserv. Folks there are typically most helpful. / > > > > > > > > > No Link Between Mercury And Autism: Study > > > > > > > > > > http://tinyurl.com/2coju5 > > > > > > > > > > Mercury levels have no relationship to the development of > > > > > autism, a developmental disorder whose cause remains unclear, > > > > > according to a Canadian study published Thursday. > > > > > " In recent years, hypotheses have been raised concerning a > > > > > possible relationship between mercury exposure and autism, " > > said > > > > > > > > Fombonne, head researcher and director of pediatric > psychiatry > > > at the > > > > > Montreal Children's Hospital. > > > > > " Specifically, the concerns have been related to childhood > > > > > thimerosal-containing vaccines, dental amalgams, and > > > methylmercury in > > > > > food, " he said in a statement. > > > > > The research team examined mercury levels in hair and blood > > > > > samples provided by autistic children and their mothers and > > > concluded > > > > > that the levels observed did not differ largely from those > > taken > > > from > > > > > children without autism. > > > > > The study also " demonstrated that there was no correlation > > > > > between the mercury level and the severity of symptoms and > > level > > > of > > > > > functioning of autistic children. " > > > > > Children with autism, a growing developmental concern which > > > > > appears before age three, often avoid physical contact and > > > communicate > > > > > with gestures rather than speech. > > > > > A February study by the US Centers for Disease Control and > > > > > Prevention suggested that autism is more common in the > United > > > States > > > > > than previously believed, affecting one child in 150. > > > > > The Canadian study was performed on 71 autistic children and > 75 > > > > > children without the disorder. > > > > > Fombonne said the study's findings also implied > that " chelation > > > > > therapies, whereby heavy metals are removed from the body > using > > > > > specific compounds, are not useful in the treatment of > autism. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > J. Krakow > > > > Attorney At Law > > > > 2001 Marcus Avenue, Suite N125 > > > > Lake Success, New York 11042 > > > > (516) 354-3300 > > > > (646) 349-1771 (fax) > > > > (212) 227-0600 (NYC telephone) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell? > > > > Check outnew cars at Autos. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2007 Report Share Posted May 5, 2007 My mother passed away May 4, 1985. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2007 Report Share Posted May 5, 2007 And now she's bones? What a touching tribute. My grandmother died in 1999 but we cremated her. I think I'll change my screen name to ashydirt99. We have more plants on this list than my local garden center. I shall call you " Lilly " for the, uh, flower, OK? Cheerio and ta ta! > > My mother passed away May 4, 1985. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2007 Report Share Posted May 5, 2007 Lol,ba da bum (rim shot) either a plant or a desperate cry for human interaction. > > > > My mother passed away May 4, 1985. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2007 Report Share Posted May 5, 2007 Actually, " bones " is a nickname I got in high school because of my lanky stature, but thanks for being presumptious. Say, are you always this rude? Or did you just run out of scotch too early this morning? > > > > > > My mother passed away May 4, 1985. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2007 Report Share Posted May 5, 2007 Kendra asked where your name came from and you said your grandmother who passed away. You didn’t say anything about a high school nickname. Give Kendra a break- plus if you belong to this group, you need to be warned that you need a sense of humor & a big grain of salt... because “rude” comments are as common as flu vaccines at a Senior Center. On 5/5/07 10:44 AM, " bones.0504 " <bones.0504@...> wrote: Actually, " bones " is a nickname I got in high school because of my lanky stature, but thanks for being presumptious. Say, are you always this rude? Or did you just run out of scotch too early this morning? > > > > > > My mother passed away May 4, 1985. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2007 Report Share Posted May 5, 2007 Why would you announce your mother died may 4 1985? What does that have to do with the legal issues of autsim? > > > > > > > > My mother passed away May 4, 1985. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2007 Report Share Posted May 5, 2007 Because his alias has that date in it. > > > > > > > > > > My mother passed away May 4, 1985. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2007 Report Share Posted May 5, 2007 Ah, of course, my bad > > > > > > > > > > > > My mother passed away May 4, 1985. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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