Re: No Link Between Mercury And Autism: Study

May 4, 2007

HAIR and BLOOD?????????? These people don't know their mercury chemistry!!!!!

It WON'T show up in the hair of the most toxic kids!!!!

It WON'T be in the blood of kids two weeks after exposure!

GEEESSSHHHHH!!!!!

Barb

No Link Between Mercury And Autism: Study

No Link Between Mercury And Autism: Studyhttp://tinyurl.com/2coju5Mercury levels have no relationship to the development ofautism, a developmental disorder whose cause remains unclear,according to a Canadian study published Thursday."In recent years, hypotheses have been raised concerning apossible relationship between mercury exposure and autism," said Fombonne, head researcher and director of pediatric psychiatry at theMontreal Children's Hospital."Specifically, the concerns have been related to childhoodthimerosal-containing vaccines, dental amalgams, and methylmercury infood," he said in a statement.The research team examined mercury levels in hair and bloodsamples provided by autistic children and their mothers and concludedthat the levels observed did not differ largely from those taken fromchildren without autism.The study also "demonstrated that there was no correlationbetween the mercury level and the severity of symptoms and level offunctioning of autistic children."Children with autism, a growing developmental concern whichappears before age three, often avoid physical contact and communicatewith gestures rather than speech.A February study by the US Centers for Disease Control andPrevention suggested that autism is more common in the United Statesthan previously believed, affecting one child in 150.The Canadian study was performed on 71 autistic children and 75children without the disorder.Fombonne said the study's findings also implied that "chelationtherapies, whereby heavy metals are removed from the body usingspecific compounds, are not useful in the treatment of autism."

May 4, 2007

The hair samples were taken from older children. The samples were not

first baby haircuts or baby haircuts. This study is misleading and

meaningless.

On May 3, 2007, at 5:47 PM, schaferatsprynet wrote:

> No Link Between Mercury And Autism: Study

>

> http://tinyurl.com/2coju5

>

> Mercury levels have no relationship to the development of

> autism, a developmental disorder whose cause remains unclear,

> according to a Canadian study published Thursday.

> " In recent years, hypotheses have been raised concerning a

> possible relationship between mercury exposure and autism, " said

> Fombonne, head researcher and director of pediatric psychiatry at the

> Montreal Children's Hospital.

> " Specifically, the concerns have been related to childhood

> thimerosal-containing vaccines, dental amalgams, and methylmercury in

> food, " he said in a statement.

> The research team examined mercury levels in hair and blood

> samples provided by autistic children and their mothers and concluded

> that the levels observed did not differ largely from those taken from

> children without autism.

> The study also " demonstrated that there was no correlation

> between the mercury level and the severity of symptoms and level of

> functioning of autistic children. "

> Children with autism, a growing developmental concern which

> appears before age three, often avoid physical contact and communicate

> with gestures rather than speech.

> A February study by the US Centers for Disease Control and

> Prevention suggested that autism is more common in the United States

> than previously believed, affecting one child in 150.

> The Canadian study was performed on 71 autistic children and 75

> children without the disorder.

> Fombonne said the study's findings also implied that " chelation

> therapies, whereby heavy metals are removed from the body using

> specific compounds, are not useful in the treatment of autism. "

>

J. Krakow

Attorney At Law

2001 Marcus Avenue, Suite N125

Lake Success, New York 11042

(516) 354-3300

(646) 349-1771 (fax)

(212) 227-0600 (NYC telephone)

May 4, 2007

blood samples suck too!!!!!!!!!!!!" J. Krakow" <rkrakow@...> wrote: The hair samples were taken from older children. The samples were not first baby haircuts or baby haircuts. This study is misleading and meaningless.On May 3, 2007, at 5:47 PM, schaferatsprynet wrote:> No Link Between Mercury And Autism: Study>> http://tinyurl.com/2coju5>> Mercury levels have no relationship to the development of> autism, a developmental disorder whose cause remains unclear,> according to a Canadian study published Thursday.> "In recent years, hypotheses have been raised concerning a> possible relationship between mercury exposure and autism," said > Fombonne, head researcher and director of pediatric psychiatry at the> Montreal Children's

Hospital.> "Specifically, the concerns have been related to childhood> thimerosal-containing vaccines, dental amalgams, and methylmercury in> food," he said in a statement.> The research team examined mercury levels in hair and blood> samples provided by autistic children and their mothers and concluded> that the levels observed did not differ largely from those taken from> children without autism.> The study also "demonstrated that there was no correlation> between the mercury level and the severity of symptoms and level of> functioning of autistic children."> Children with autism, a growing developmental concern which> appears before age three, often avoid physical contact and communicate> with gestures rather than speech.> A February study by the US Centers for Disease Control and> Prevention suggested that autism is more common in the United States> than

previously believed, affecting one child in 150.> The Canadian study was performed on 71 autistic children and 75> children without the disorder.> Fombonne said the study's findings also implied that "chelation> therapies, whereby heavy metals are removed from the body using> specific compounds, are not useful in the treatment of autism.">> J. KrakowAttorney At Law2001 Marcus Avenue, Suite N125Lake Success, New York 11042(516) 354-3300(646) 349-1771 (fax)(212) 227-0600 (NYC telephone)

Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check out

new cars at Autos.

May 4, 2007

I have a real problem with Fombonne. It wouldn't surprise me if he knows, and is

deliberately looking in all the wrong places. He has gone out of his way the

past few years

to try to disprove a link.

>

> HAIR and BLOOD?????????? These people don't know their mercury chemistry!!!!!

>

> It WON'T show up in the hair of the most toxic kids!!!!

>

> It WON'T be in the blood of kids two weeks after exposure!

>

> GEEESSSHHHHH!!!!!

>

> Barb

> No Link Between Mercury And Autism: Study

>

> No Link Between Mercury And Autism: Study

>

> http://tinyurl.com/2coju5

>

> Mercury levels have no relationship to the development of

> autism, a developmental disorder whose cause remains unclear,

> according to a Canadian study published Thursday.

> " In recent years, hypotheses have been raised concerning a

> possible relationship between mercury exposure and autism, " said

> Fombonne, head researcher and director of pediatric psychiatry at the

> Montreal Children's Hospital.

> " Specifically, the concerns have been related to childhood

> thimerosal-containing vaccines, dental amalgams, and methylmercury in

> food, " he said in a statement.

> The research team examined mercury levels in hair and blood

> samples provided by autistic children and their mothers and concluded

> that the levels observed did not differ largely from those taken from

> children without autism.

> The study also " demonstrated that there was no correlation

> between the mercury level and the severity of symptoms and level of

> functioning of autistic children. "

> Children with autism, a growing developmental concern which

> appears before age three, often avoid physical contact and communicate

> with gestures rather than speech.

> A February study by the US Centers for Disease Control and

> Prevention suggested that autism is more common in the United States

> than previously believed, affecting one child in 150.

> The Canadian study was performed on 71 autistic children and 75

> children without the disorder.

> Fombonne said the study's findings also implied that " chelation

> therapies, whereby heavy metals are removed from the body using

> specific compounds, are not useful in the treatment of autism. "

>

May 4, 2007

I'm relatively new to all this. Can someone explain why this is

meaningless?

>

> > No Link Between Mercury And Autism: Study

> >

> > http://tinyurl.com/2coju5

> >

> > Mercury levels have no relationship to the development of

> > autism, a developmental disorder whose cause remains unclear,

> > according to a Canadian study published Thursday.

> > " In recent years, hypotheses have been raised concerning a

> > possible relationship between mercury exposure and autism, " said

> > Fombonne, head researcher and director of pediatric psychiatry

at the

> > Montreal Children's Hospital.

> > " Specifically, the concerns have been related to childhood

> > thimerosal-containing vaccines, dental amalgams, and

methylmercury in

> > food, " he said in a statement.

> > The research team examined mercury levels in hair and blood

> > samples provided by autistic children and their mothers and

concluded

> > that the levels observed did not differ largely from those taken

from

> > children without autism.

> > The study also " demonstrated that there was no correlation

> > between the mercury level and the severity of symptoms and level

of

> > functioning of autistic children. "

> > Children with autism, a growing developmental concern which

> > appears before age three, often avoid physical contact and

communicate

> > with gestures rather than speech.

> > A February study by the US Centers for Disease Control and

> > Prevention suggested that autism is more common in the United

States

> > than previously believed, affecting one child in 150.

> > The Canadian study was performed on 71 autistic children and 75

> > children without the disorder.

> > Fombonne said the study's findings also implied that " chelation

> > therapies, whereby heavy metals are removed from the body using

> > specific compounds, are not useful in the treatment of autism. "

> >

> J. Krakow

> Attorney At Law

> 2001 Marcus Avenue, Suite N125

> Lake Success, New York 11042

> (516) 354-3300

> (646) 349-1771 (fax)

> (212) 227-0600 (NYC telephone)

>

> ---------------------------------

> Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell?

> Check outnew cars at Autos.

>

May 4, 2007

This is the equivalent of looking at someone who has been shot in

the head with a bullet and trying to determine what is wrong with

that person by studying their urine, hair and blood samples. And

then declaring that there could not possibly be a lead bullet in the

gunshot victim's head because the lead content in the urine, blood

and hair of the victim is no different than that of a normal person.

And that any attempt to remove lead from the victim's head is not

advised.

Mercury would only be detectable in blood or urine if there had been

a recent exposure and if a body was excreting mercury, and we know

that many of our children cannot excrete metals properly. Mercury

also tends to bind to fats which is why it tends to end up in the

brain becuase their is a high proportion of fat in the brain. There

is very little fat in bold or hair or urine. Mercury would only show

up in hair if there was an exposure while the hair was growing and,

again, if the body could excrete urine.

Fombonne also claims there is no evidence that the autism rate has

increased. He testifies as an expert witness for the pharmaceutical

companies in thimerosal proceedings and he receives funding from

Autism Speaks.

> >

> > > No Link Between Mercury And Autism: Study

> > >

> > > http://tinyurl.com/2coju5

> > >

> > > Mercury levels have no relationship to the development of

> > > autism, a developmental disorder whose cause remains unclear,

> > > according to a Canadian study published Thursday.

> > > " In recent years, hypotheses have been raised concerning a

> > > possible relationship between mercury exposure and autism, "

said

>

> > > Fombonne, head researcher and director of pediatric psychiatry

> at the

> > > Montreal Children's Hospital.

> > > " Specifically, the concerns have been related to childhood

> > > thimerosal-containing vaccines, dental amalgams, and

> methylmercury in

> > > food, " he said in a statement.

> > > The research team examined mercury levels in hair and blood

> > > samples provided by autistic children and their mothers and

> concluded

> > > that the levels observed did not differ largely from those

taken

> from

> > > children without autism.

> > > The study also " demonstrated that there was no correlation

> > > between the mercury level and the severity of symptoms and

level

> of

> > > functioning of autistic children. "

> > > Children with autism, a growing developmental concern which

> > > appears before age three, often avoid physical contact and

> communicate

> > > with gestures rather than speech.

> > > A February study by the US Centers for Disease Control and

> > > Prevention suggested that autism is more common in the United

> States

> > > than previously believed, affecting one child in 150.

> > > The Canadian study was performed on 71 autistic children and 75

> > > children without the disorder.

> > > Fombonne said the study's findings also implied that " chelation

> > > therapies, whereby heavy metals are removed from the body using

> > > specific compounds, are not useful in the treatment of autism. "

> > >

> > J. Krakow

> > Attorney At Law

> > 2001 Marcus Avenue, Suite N125

> > Lake Success, New York 11042

> > (516) 354-3300

> > (646) 349-1771 (fax)

> > (212) 227-0600 (NYC telephone)

> >

> > ---------------------------------

> > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell?

> > Check outnew cars at Autos.

> >

>

May 4, 2007

From montreal

In the press release :

" they also demonstrate that there is no correlation

between the mercury level and severity of symptoms and

level of functionning of autistic childreen " .

One problem with this statement relative to the prime premise of his

study , if you can't find any mercury in kids , how can you measure

the relationship between mercury level and severity of symptoms ???

It is important to note that Fombonne will be an expert witness

at the secrets trials that will start after june 14th , he will be

representing the vaccine establisment and the pharma industry

against 5000 famillies ,

Hey nice guy!!! .

> >

> > HAIR and BLOOD?????????? These people don't know their mercury

chemistry!!!!!

> >

> > It WON'T show up in the hair of the most toxic kids!!!!

> >

> > It WON'T be in the blood of kids two weeks after exposure!

> >

> > GEEESSSHHHHH!!!!!

> >

> > Barb

> > No Link Between Mercury And Autism: Study

> >

> > No Link Between Mercury And Autism: Study

> >

> > http://tinyurl.com/2coju5

> >

> > Mercury levels have no relationship to the development of

> > autism, a developmental disorder whose cause remains unclear,

> > according to a Canadian study published Thursday.

> > " In recent years, hypotheses have been raised concerning a

> > possible relationship between mercury exposure and autism, "

said

> > Fombonne, head researcher and director of pediatric psychiatry

at the

> > Montreal Children's Hospital.

> > " Specifically, the concerns have been related to childhood

> > thimerosal-containing vaccines, dental amalgams, and

methylmercury in

> > food, " he said in a statement.

> > The research team examined mercury levels in hair and blood

> > samples provided by autistic children and their mothers and

concluded

> > that the levels observed did not differ largely from those

taken from

> > children without autism.

> > The study also " demonstrated that there was no correlation

> > between the mercury level and the severity of symptoms and

level of

> > functioning of autistic children. "

> > Children with autism, a growing developmental concern which

> > appears before age three, often avoid physical contact and

communicate

> > with gestures rather than speech.

> > A February study by the US Centers for Disease Control and

> > Prevention suggested that autism is more common in the United

States

> > than previously believed, affecting one child in 150.

> > The Canadian study was performed on 71 autistic children and 75

> > children without the disorder.

> > Fombonne said the study's findings also implied that " chelation

> > therapies, whereby heavy metals are removed from the body using

> > specific compounds, are not useful in the treatment of autism. "

> >

>

May 4, 2007

First off....the man is a psychiatrist doing a toxicological study...of course he doesn't want there to be a correlation...it could mean GASP! maybe all those people with "mental" problems actually have a biochemical problem. That would be bad for his business, no?

Secondly....like you mentioned, he doesn't even know what to look for with what mercury does to a person with chronic exposure to mercury past recent exposure...certainly not blood, and only hair if you know how to identify derranged mineral transport...I'd love to see the hair tests myself.

Thirdly....I believe this gentleman already published a "study" to "disprove" the mercury "hypothesis" some time ago...one that Dr. Ayoub tore to shreads. (Could be wrong about that, but I don't think so.) If I'm right, why would someone so convinced they already knew mercury had nothing to do with it actually do a follow-up?

This "study" screams desperation to disprove an "unpleasant theory"...and it screams volumes about his ignorance of mercury. Truly, truly makes the man look like a desperate fool.

--------- No Link Between Mercury And Autism: Study

No Link Between Mercury And Autism: Studyhttp://tinyurl.com/2coju5Mercury levels have no relationship to the development ofautism, a developmental disorder whose cause remains unclear,according to a Canadian study published Thursday."In recent years, hypotheses have been raised concerning apossible relationship between mercury exposure and autism," said Fombonne, head researcher and director of pediatric psychiatry at theMontreal Children's Hospital."Specifically, the concerns have been related to childhoodthimerosal-containing vaccines, dental amalgams, and methylmercury infood," he said in a statement.The research team examined mercury levels in hair and bloodsamples provided by autistic children and their mothers and concludedthat the levels observed did not differ largely from those taken fromchildren without autism.The study also "demonstrated that t

here was no correlationbetween the mercury level and the severity of symptoms and level offunctioning of autistic children."Children with autism, a growing developmental concern whichappears before age three, often avoid physical contact and communicatewith gestures rather than speech.A February study by the US Centers for Disease Control andPrevention suggested that autism is more common in the United Statesthan previously believed, affecting one child in 150.The Canadian study was performed on 71 autistic children and 75children without the disorder.Fombonne said the study's findings also implied that "chelationtherapies, whereby heavy metals are removed from the body usingspecific compounds, are not useful in the treatment of autism."

May 4, 2007

>> I'm relatively new to all this. Can someone explain why this is > meaningless?>

This is an excerpt from Burbacher et al's 2005 study. Essentially, the researchers found that as mercury clears the blood relatively rapidly following ethylmercury exposure (thimerosal), measuring blood levels of mercury is not likely to be an accurate means of determining mercury levels in tissue or total body burden - especially months, if not years, after the exposure.

http://www.ehponline.org/members/2005/7712/7712.html

Comparison of Blood and Brain Mercury Levels in Infant Monkeys Exposed to Methylmercury or Vaccines Containing Thimerosal

M. Burbacher,1,2,3 Danny D. Shen,4 Noelle Liberato,1,2,3 S. Grant,1,2,3 Elsa Cernichiari,5 and son5

Environmental Health Perspectives Volume 113, Number 8, August 2005

A much lower brain concentration of total Hg was observed in the thimerosal monkeys compared with the MeHg monkeys, that is, a 3- to 4-fold difference for an equivalent exposure of Hg. Moreover, total Hg is cleared much more rapidly from the brain after thimerosal than after MeHg exposure (24 vs. 60 days). It appears that the difference in brain Hg exposure between thimerosal and MeHg is largely driven by their differences in systemic disposition kinetics (i.e., the blood level). The average brain-to-blood partitioning ratio of total Hg in the thimerosal group was slightly higher than that in the MeHg group (3.5 ± 0.5 vs. 2.5 ± 0.3, t-test, p = 0.11). Thus, the brain-to-blood Hg concentration ratio established for MeHg will underestimate the amount of Hg in the brain after exposure to thimerosal.

The large difference in the blood Hg half-life compared with the brain half-life for the thimerosal-exposed monkeys (6.9 days vs. 24 days) indicates that blood Hg may not be a good indicator of risk of adverse effects on the brain, particularly under conditions of rapidly changing blood levels such as those observed after vaccinations. The blood concentrations of the thimerosal-exposed monkeys in the present study are within the range of those reported for human infants after vaccination (Stajich et al. 2000). Data from the present study support the prediction that, although little accumulation of Hg in the blood occurs over time with repeated vaccinations, accumulation of Hg in the brain of infants will occur. Thus, conclusion regarding the safety of thimerosal drawn from blood Hg clearance data in human infants receiving vaccines may not be valid, given the significantly slower half-life of Hg in the brain as observed in the infant macaques. [emphasis added]

May 4, 2007

Excellent analogy, I couldn't have said it better.

> > >

> > > > No Link Between Mercury And Autism: Study

> > > >

> > > > http://tinyurl.com/2coju5

> > > >

> > > > Mercury levels have no relationship to the development of

> > > > autism, a developmental disorder whose cause remains unclear,

> > > > according to a Canadian study published Thursday.

> > > > " In recent years, hypotheses have been raised concerning a

> > > > possible relationship between mercury exposure and autism, "

> said

> >

> > > > Fombonne, head researcher and director of pediatric psychiatry

> > at the

> > > > Montreal Children's Hospital.

> > > > " Specifically, the concerns have been related to childhood

> > > > thimerosal-containing vaccines, dental amalgams, and

> > methylmercury in

> > > > food, " he said in a statement.

> > > > The research team examined mercury levels in hair and blood

> > > > samples provided by autistic children and their mothers and

> > concluded

> > > > that the levels observed did not differ largely from those

> taken

> > from

> > > > children without autism.

> > > > The study also " demonstrated that there was no correlation

> > > > between the mercury level and the severity of symptoms and

> level

> > of

> > > > functioning of autistic children. "

> > > > Children with autism, a growing developmental concern which

> > > > appears before age three, often avoid physical contact and

> > communicate

> > > > with gestures rather than speech.

> > > > A February study by the US Centers for Disease Control and

> > > > Prevention suggested that autism is more common in the United

> > States

> > > > than previously believed, affecting one child in 150.

> > > > The Canadian study was performed on 71 autistic children and 75

> > > > children without the disorder.

> > > > Fombonne said the study's findings also implied that " chelation

> > > > therapies, whereby heavy metals are removed from the body using

> > > > specific compounds, are not useful in the treatment of autism. "

> > > >

> > > J. Krakow

> > > Attorney At Law

> > > 2001 Marcus Avenue, Suite N125

> > > Lake Success, New York 11042

> > > (516) 354-3300

> > > (646) 349-1771 (fax)

> > > (212) 227-0600 (NYC telephone)

> > >

> > > ---------------------------------

> > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell?

> > > Check outnew cars at Autos.

> > >

> >

>

May 4, 2007

In his 2006 study, Fombonne did not actually "look" at his subjects' vaccine records. He went by what the official immunization schedule was in Quebec at the time. This means his subjects could have had all sorts of vaccines which aren't on the official schedule, just like here in the neighboring province of Ontario, where many young children are receiving or have received (either here or elsewhere), various vaccines which have been "recommended" but are not on any official immunization schedule in our province. In Ontario, these include infant hepatitis B, hepatitisA, Prevnar, Varivax, Japanese encephalitis, BCG, meningitis vaccines, etc. Aasamorinp2003 <morinp2003@...> wrote: From montreal In the press release :" they also demonstrate that there is no correlationbetween the mercury level and severity of symptoms andlevel of functionning of autistic childreen".One problem with this statement relative to the prime premise of his study , if you can't find any mercury in kids , how can you measure the relationship between mercury level and severity of symptoms ???It is important to note that Fombonne will be an expert witness at the secrets trials that will start after june 14th , he will be representing the vaccine establisment and the pharma industry against 5000 famillies ,Hey nice guy!!! .> >> > HAIR and BLOOD?????????? These people don't know their mercury chemistry!!!!! > > > > It WON'T show up in the hair of the most toxic kids!!!!> > > > It WON'T be in the blood of kids two weeks after exposure!> > > > GEEESSSHHHHH!!!!!> > > > Barb> > No Link Between Mercury And Autism: Study> > > > > > No Link Between Mercury And Autism: Study> > > > http://tinyurl.com/2coju5> > > > Mercury levels have no relationship to the development of> > autism, a developmental disorder whose cause remains unclear,> > according to a Canadian study published Thursday.> > "In recent years, hypotheses have been raised concerning a> > possible relationship between mercury exposure and autism," said > > Fombonne, head researcher and director of pediatric psychiatry at the> > Montreal Children's Hospital.> > "Specifically, the concerns have been related to

childhood> > thimerosal-containing vaccines, dental amalgams, and methylmercury in> > food," he said in a statement.> > The research team examined mercury levels in hair and blood> > samples provided by autistic children and their mothers and concluded> > that the levels observed did not differ largely from those taken from> > children without autism.> > The study also "demonstrated that there was no correlation> > between the mercury level and the severity of symptoms and level of> > functioning of autistic children."> > Children with autism, a growing developmental concern which> > appears before age three, often avoid physical contact and communicate> > with gestures rather than speech.> > A February study by the US Centers for Disease Control and> > Prevention suggested that autism is more common in the

United States> > than previously believed, affecting one child in 150.> > The Canadian study was performed on 71 autistic children and 75> > children without the disorder.> > Fombonne said the study's findings also implied that "chelation> > therapies, whereby heavy metals are removed from the body using> > specific compounds, are not useful in the treatment of autism."> >>

May 4, 2007

So, mercury levels can't be accurately ascertained through urine,

blood or hair samples? Is that right?

> > >

> > > > No Link Between Mercury And Autism: Study

> > > >

> > > > http://tinyurl.com/2coju5

> > > >

> > > > Mercury levels have no relationship to the development of

> > > > autism, a developmental disorder whose cause remains unclear,

> > > > according to a Canadian study published Thursday.

> > > > " In recent years, hypotheses have been raised concerning a

> > > > possible relationship between mercury exposure and autism, "

> said

> >

> > > > Fombonne, head researcher and director of pediatric

psychiatry

> > at the

> > > > Montreal Children's Hospital.

> > > > " Specifically, the concerns have been related to childhood

> > > > thimerosal-containing vaccines, dental amalgams, and

> > methylmercury in

> > > > food, " he said in a statement.

> > > > The research team examined mercury levels in hair and blood

> > > > samples provided by autistic children and their mothers and

> > concluded

> > > > that the levels observed did not differ largely from those

> taken

> > from

> > > > children without autism.

> > > > The study also " demonstrated that there was no correlation

> > > > between the mercury level and the severity of symptoms and

> level

> > of

> > > > functioning of autistic children. "

> > > > Children with autism, a growing developmental concern which

> > > > appears before age three, often avoid physical contact and

> > communicate

> > > > with gestures rather than speech.

> > > > A February study by the US Centers for Disease Control and

> > > > Prevention suggested that autism is more common in the

United

> > States

> > > > than previously believed, affecting one child in 150.

> > > > The Canadian study was performed on 71 autistic children and

75

> > > > children without the disorder.

> > > > Fombonne said the study's findings also implied

that " chelation

> > > > therapies, whereby heavy metals are removed from the body

using

> > > > specific compounds, are not useful in the treatment of

autism. "

> > > >

> > > J. Krakow

> > > Attorney At Law

> > > 2001 Marcus Avenue, Suite N125

> > > Lake Success, New York 11042

> > > (516) 354-3300

> > > (646) 349-1771 (fax)

> > > (212) 227-0600 (NYC telephone)

> > >

> > > ---------------------------------

> > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell?

> > > Check outnew cars at Autos.

> > >

> >

>

May 4, 2007

Ok, now I understand. He's speaking beyond his " expertise. " Right?

>

> First off....the man is a psychiatrist doing a toxicological

study...of course he doesn't want there to be a correlation...it

could mean GASP! maybe all those people with " mental " problems

actually have a biochemical problem. That would be bad for his

business, no?

>

> Secondly....like you mentioned, he doesn't even know what to look

for with what mercury does to a person with chronic exposure to

mercury past recent exposure...certainly not blood, and only hair if

you know how to identify derranged mineral transport...I'd love to

see the hair tests myself.

>

> Thirdly....I believe this gentleman already published a " study "

to " disprove " the mercury " hypothesis " some time ago...one that Dr.

Ayoub tore to shreads. (Could be wrong about that, but I don't

think so.) If I'm right, why would someone so convinced they already

knew mercury had nothing to do with it actually do a follow-up?

>

> This " study " screams desperation to disprove an " unpleasant

theory " ...and it screams volumes about his ignorance of mercury.

Truly, truly makes the man look like a desperate fool.

>

> --------- No Link Between Mercury And Autism: Study

>

> No Link Between Mercury And Autism: Study

>

> http://tinyurl.com/2coju5

>

> Mercury levels have no relationship to the development of

> autism, a developmental disorder whose cause remains unclear,

> according to a Canadian study published Thursday.

> " In recent years, hypotheses have been raised concerning a

> possible relationship between mercury exposure and autism, " said

> Fombonne, head researcher and director of pediatric psychiatry at

the

> Montreal Children's Hospital.

> " Specifically, the concerns have been related to childhood

> thimerosal-containing vaccines, dental amalgams, and methylmercury

in

> food, " he said in a statement.

> The research team examined mercury levels in hair and blood

> samples provided by autistic children and their mothers and

concluded

> that the levels observed did not differ largely from those taken

from

> children without autism.

> The study also " demonstrated that there was no correlation

> between the mercury level and the severity of symptoms and level of

> functioning of autistic children. "

> Children with autism, a growing developmental concern which

> appears before age three, often avoid physical contact and

communicate

> with gestures rather than speech.

> A February study by the US Centers for Disease Control and

> Prevention suggested that autism is more common in the United

States

> than previously believed, affecting one child in 150.

> The Canadian study was performed on 71 autistic children and 75

> children without the disorder.

> Fombonne said the study's findings also implied that " chelation

> therapies, whereby heavy metals are removed from the body using

> specific compounds, are not useful in the treatment of autism. "

>

May 4, 2007

Correct. You need a provoking pharmaceutical agent to try to dislodge the Hg from its tissues and then you can test mercury levels in the urine and stool.

Heidi

From: "bones.0504" <bones.0504@...>Reply-EOHarm To: EOHarm Subject: Re: No Link Between Mercury And Autism: StudyDate: Fri, 04 May 2007 02:07:50 -0000

So, mercury levels can't be accurately ascertained through urine, blood or hair samples? Is that right?>> This is the equivalent of looking at someone who has been shot in > the head with a bullet and trying to determine what is wrong with > that person by studying their urine, hair and blood samples. And > then declaring that there could not possibly be a lead bullet in the > gunshot victim's head because the lead content in the urine, blood > and hair of the victim is no different than that of a normal person. > And that any attempt to remove lead from the victim's head is not > advised.> > Mercury would only be detectable in blood or urine if there had been

May 4, 2007

Blood and urine testing for mercury may indicate mercury,

but it does not enable you to determine what an actual level of

mercury body burden exists.

Here is a portion of an article which you might deem useful and

located at:

http://www.rense.com/general46/merc.htm

ACRES U.S.A. Wasn't there a case where quite a number of people were

poisoned by accidentally eating poison-treated seeds?

MOORE. Absolutely. We sent bags and bags of seed grain to Iraq around

1974. It had a skull and crossbones on it, but many Iraqis' instead

of planting the seeds' ground it and ate it as flour. Five hundred

people died initially, and 6,526 people were hospitalized over the

next five years. The really bizarre problem here is that it took them

a year to figure out what happened, even with such a massive,

industrial-strength poisoning. The reason is that it doesn't show up

in the blood, and it doesn't show up in the urine. If I were to pick

you up and put you in a bucket of mercury bare-naked and took you out

and tried to check you for contamination' if we didn't do it

instantly, within the first two minutes' that mercury would be bound

up. It gets bound up quickly in the tissue, on the outside of the

cell, and crosses the cell membrane to go inside the cell and play

with the RNA and DNA. It changes the cell, making it a bastard cell.

Of course, in most cases with our developmentally disabled children

the form of mercury involved is believed to be vaccine mercury,

ethylmercury, as so many families saw their child regress into a

state of neurological unwellness during the period of personal mass

vaccination.

There are other logical sources of mercury exposure, but none seem to

have had a historically significant impact on autism rate changes the

way things changed when government policy-making turned our children

into pediatric dart boards.

We simply have not changed into people who can not excrete mercury,

and we certainly have not off-sprung a generation of children who

can't either.

> >

> > > No Link Between Mercury And Autism: Study

> > >

> > > http://tinyurl.com/2coju5

> > >

> > > Mercury levels have no relationship to the development of

> > > autism, a developmental disorder whose cause remains unclear,

> > > according to a Canadian study published Thursday.

> > > " In recent years, hypotheses have been raised concerning a

> > > possible relationship between mercury exposure and autism, "

said

>

> > > Fombonne, head researcher and director of pediatric psychiatry

> at the

> > > Montreal Children's Hospital.

> > > " Specifically, the concerns have been related to childhood

> > > thimerosal-containing vaccines, dental amalgams, and

> methylmercury in

> > > food, " he said in a statement.

> > > The research team examined mercury levels in hair and blood

> > > samples provided by autistic children and their mothers and

> concluded

> > > that the levels observed did not differ largely from those

taken

> from

> > > children without autism.

> > > The study also " demonstrated that there was no correlation

> > > between the mercury level and the severity of symptoms and

level

> of

> > > functioning of autistic children. "

> > > Children with autism, a growing developmental concern which

> > > appears before age three, often avoid physical contact and

> communicate

> > > with gestures rather than speech.

> > > A February study by the US Centers for Disease Control and

> > > Prevention suggested that autism is more common in the United

> States

> > > than previously believed, affecting one child in 150.

> > > The Canadian study was performed on 71 autistic children and 75

> > > children without the disorder.

> > > Fombonne said the study's findings also implied that " chelation

> > > therapies, whereby heavy metals are removed from the body using

> > > specific compounds, are not useful in the treatment of autism. "

> > >

> > J. Krakow

> > Attorney At Law

> > 2001 Marcus Avenue, Suite N125

> > Lake Success, New York 11042

> > (516) 354-3300

> > (646) 349-1771 (fax)

> > (212) 227-0600 (NYC telephone)

> >

> > ---------------------------------

> > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell?

> > Check outnew cars at Autos.

> >

>

May 4, 2007

ï»¿

With an emphasis on misleading.

Re: No Link Between Mercury And Autism: Study

The hair samples were taken from older children. The samples were not first baby haircuts or baby haircuts. This study is misleading and meaningless.On May 3, 2007, at 5:47 PM, schaferatsprynet wrote:

No Link Between Mercury And Autism: Studyhttp://tinyurl.com/2coju5Mercury levels have no relationship to the development ofautism, a developmental disorder whose cause remains unclear,according to a Canadian study published Thursday."In recent years, hypotheses have been raised concerning apossible relationship between mercury exposure and autism," said Fombonne, head researcher and director of pediatric psychiatry at theMontreal Children's Hospital."Specifically, the concerns have been related to childhoodthimerosal-containing vaccines, dental amalgams, and methylmercury infood," he said in a statement.The research team examined mercury levels in hair and bloodsamples provided by autistic children and their mothers and concludedthat the levels observed did not differ largely from those taken fromchildren without autism.The study also "demonstrated that there was no correlationbetween the mercury level and the severity of symptoms and level offunctioning of autistic children."Children with autism, a growing developmental concern whichappears before age three, often avoid physical contact and communicatewith gestures rather than speech.A February study by the US Centers for Disease Control andPrevention suggested that autism is more common in the United Statesthan previously believed, affecting one child in 150.The Canadian study was performed on 71 autistic children and 75children without the disorder.Fombonne said the study's findings also implied that "chelationtherapies, whereby heavy metals are removed from the body usingspecific compounds, are not useful in the treatment of autism." J. KrakowAttorney At Law2001 Marcus Avenue, Suite N125Lake Success, New York 11042(516) 354-3300 (646) 349-1771 (fax)(212) 227-0600 (NYC telephone)

May 4, 2007

Ok. Got it. You need to admister a chelator in order to accurately

determine overall body burden. You guys have been very helpful,

thanks.

Once you get that number (or level), how do you then go about

determining what amount is ethyl-Hg (ie, from the vax) as opposed to

methyl-Hg?

> > >

> > > > No Link Between Mercury And Autism: Study

> > > >

> > > > http://tinyurl.com/2coju5

> > > >

> > > > Mercury levels have no relationship to the development of

> > > > autism, a developmental disorder whose cause remains unclear,

> > > > according to a Canadian study published Thursday.

> > > > " In recent years, hypotheses have been raised concerning a

> > > > possible relationship between mercury exposure and autism, "

> said

> >

> > > > Fombonne, head researcher and director of pediatric

psychiatry

> > at the

> > > > Montreal Children's Hospital.

> > > > " Specifically, the concerns have been related to childhood

> > > > thimerosal-containing vaccines, dental amalgams, and

> > methylmercury in

> > > > food, " he said in a statement.

> > > > The research team examined mercury levels in hair and blood

> > > > samples provided by autistic children and their mothers and

> > concluded

> > > > that the levels observed did not differ largely from those

> taken

> > from

> > > > children without autism.

> > > > The study also " demonstrated that there was no correlation

> > > > between the mercury level and the severity of symptoms and

> level

> > of

> > > > functioning of autistic children. "

> > > > Children with autism, a growing developmental concern which

> > > > appears before age three, often avoid physical contact and

> > communicate

> > > > with gestures rather than speech.

> > > > A February study by the US Centers for Disease Control and

> > > > Prevention suggested that autism is more common in the

United

> > States

> > > > than previously believed, affecting one child in 150.

> > > > The Canadian study was performed on 71 autistic children and

75

> > > > children without the disorder.

> > > > Fombonne said the study's findings also implied

that " chelation

> > > > therapies, whereby heavy metals are removed from the body

using

> > > > specific compounds, are not useful in the treatment of

autism. "

> > > >

> > > J. Krakow

> > > Attorney At Law

> > > 2001 Marcus Avenue, Suite N125

> > > Lake Success, New York 11042

> > > (516) 354-3300

> > > (646) 349-1771 (fax)

> > > (212) 227-0600 (NYC telephone)

> > >

> > > ---------------------------------

> > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible " new car " smell?

> > > Check outnew cars at Autos.

> > >

> >

>

May 4, 2007

I detect a probe.

Re: No Link Between Mercury And Autism: Study

Ok. Got it. You need to admister a chelator in order to accurately determine overall body burden. You guys have been very helpful, thanks.Once you get that number (or level), how do you then go about determining what amount is ethyl-Hg (ie, from the vax) as opposed to methyl-Hg?> > > > > > > No Link Between Mercury And Autism: Study> > > >> > > > http://tinyurl.com/2coju5> > > >> > > > Mercury levels have no relationship to the development of> > > > autism, a developmental disorder whose cause remains unclear,> > > > according to a Canadian study published Thursday.> > > > "In recent years, hypotheses have been raised concerning a> > > > possible relationship between mercury exposure and autism," > said > > > > > > Fombonne, head researcher and director of pediatric psychiatry > > at the> > > > Montreal Children's Hospital.> > > > "Specifically, the concerns have been related to childhood> > > > thimerosal-containing vaccines, dental amalgams, and > > methylmercury in> > > > food," he said in a statement.> > > > The research team examined mercury levels in hair and blood> > > > samples provided by autistic children and their mothers and > > concluded> > > > that the levels observed did not differ largely from those > taken > > from> > > > children without autism.> > > > The study also "demonstrated that there was no correlation> > > > between the mercury level and the severity of symptoms and > level > > of> > > > functioning of autistic children."> > > > Children with autism, a growing developmental concern which> > > > appears before age three, often avoid physical contact and > > communicate> > > > with gestures rather than speech.> > > > A February study by the US Centers for Disease Control and> > > > Prevention suggested that autism is more common in the United > > States> > > > than previously believed, affecting one child in 150.> > > > The Canadian study was performed on 71 autistic children and 75> > > > children without the disorder.> > > > Fombonne said the study's findings also implied that "chelation> > > > therapies, whereby heavy metals are removed from the body using> > > > specific compounds, are not useful in the treatment of autism."> > > >> > > > > > > J. Krakow> > > Attorney At Law> > > 2001 Marcus Avenue, Suite N125> > > Lake Success, New York 11042> > > (516) 354-3300> > > (646) 349-1771 (fax)> > > (212) 227-0600 (NYC telephone)> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------> > > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell?> > > Check outnew cars at Autos.> > >> >>

May 4, 2007

>

I saw it on The autism news I recieve. This is a debate and ASD is

not caused by Mercury Mercury is a neurotoxin. the study didn't

state that sooo UM what were the age of the " children " and when did

they get their shots and why would the US CDC admit a causal

relationship to mercury poisioning. It is not the only environmental

factor but it is one. I wish I had video od ravi before and after.

That would make discussion hard to disregard. It is hard to believe

unless one has done it. as I said I did it for myself with no

results or changes of any kind. but a non-verbal child spoke after a

round of herbal chelation. perhaps they are referring to the creams

and IV which are themselves synthetic. They actually throw body

mercury across the blood brain barrier into brain tissue. Mercury is

a neurotoxin because it is attracted to Fatty tissue. The most fatty

tissue we have is in the brain. while mercury in the body isn't

great in the brain is it horrid. that is why this is such a hot

debate. Please google mercury exposure. in large quantities it

causes death--not dysfunction but death. In smaller doses madness

and in smaller doses cognitive delay. No one that knows ravi even in

the last 2 years argues that chelation has changed him. all the

teachers that i meet with even the psycologist that seems him The

neurologist says she cannot comment offocially but to keep doing what

I am doing. IQ point gains don't lie. on his report it states " Ravi

has made significant cognitive improvement " and that a gain of 15 IQ

points would have gotten him in the medical books. I have been told

by medical doctors to continue with the chelation. as I said it is

herbal and there is no risk. I cannot be disuaded by studies. i was

just hoping that if people couldn't trust my word they would trust

the CDC, But it seems that I have been trumped by Canada. It is ok

Ravi is my real true and only measure

May 4, 2007