Re: How to talk to others parents about thimerosal?

[Guest guest]

HI Ed,

You live in Ohio? So do I. E-mail me off list. I'll tell you all

about how you (and your friends) can engage other parents and

politicans in our state.

As far as talking to other parents my advice is tell them the basic

facts. if they seem interested tell them more. If they don't- you'll

never change their mind- you will be wasting your breath. And it'll

drive you crazy- and it's not worth the aggravation.

Your part is to talk - their's is to listen and ask questions and

then go and search for more info. Sometimes they are not willing or

able to do their part and there is nothing you can do about.

you need to have one conversation at a time.

Ps. E-mail me.

>

>

> A couple of weeks ago, there was an autism awareness rally in

> Columbus Ohio. The speakers included various state senators,

> psychcolgists, and a couple of adults with autism. One of the state

> senators has a son with autism and he is fighting to help families

> get the care and resources they need to help their kids. After the

> rally, I introduced myself and told him how me and my wife believe

> the thimerosal in vaccines is the main culprit in developmental

> disorders, and that the goverment covered it up on the federal

> level. I was prepared to have him either agree with me or site some

> federal whitewash epidemilogical study. To my amazement he knew

very

> little on the subject. I suggested the book Evidence of Harm by

> Kirby, he wrote it down and said he would check it out.

>

> At work I have recently got into some heated discussions about

> vaccines and Thimerosal being the root of autism. A woman screamed

> at me that I should vaccinate my 11 year old daughter with Merck's

> HPv (is that right?) vaccine. I just couldn't get her and others to

> understand. I am amazed that the majority of people think that

> government always has their best interests in mind when they up the

> vaacination schedule, even though I did have an amazing

conversation

> with a guy who at first said he thought autism was just being

> overdiagnosed, and I pointed out that there would be more adults

> with autism if this were so, and that the rate of developmental

> disorders exploded when the vaccination schedule was increased. He

> has gone from a doubter to believing that it might be possible.

>

> What I need advice on, is how should we share our beliefs in the

> small autism support group that we have joined? I think it is

> something we need to talk about, but I just don't know where to

> begin.

>

[Guest guest]

Ed, I always hand out EOH....I keep them in stock. Hey, DK can I get a discount?Ed <fordjohnson38@...> wrote: A couple of weeks ago, there was an autism awareness rally in Columbus Ohio. The speakers included various state senators, psychcolgists, and a couple of adults with autism. One of the state senators has a son with autism and he is fighting to help families get the care and resources they need to help their kids. After the

rally, I introduced myself and told him how me and my wife believe the thimerosal in vaccines is the main culprit in developmental disorders, and that the goverment covered it up on the federal level. I was prepared to have him either agree with me or site some federal whitewash epidemilogical study. To my amazement he knew very little on the subject. I suggested the book Evidence of Harm by Kirby, he wrote it down and said he would check it out.At work I have recently got into some heated discussions about vaccines and Thimerosal being the root of autism. A woman screamed at me that I should vaccinate my 11 year old daughter with Merck's HPv (is that right?) vaccine. I just couldn't get her and others to understand. I am amazed that the majority of people think that government always has their best interests in mind when they up the vaacination schedule, even though I did have an amazing conversation

with a guy who at first said he thought autism was just being overdiagnosed, and I pointed out that there would be more adults with autism if this were so, and that the rate of developmental disorders exploded when the vaccination schedule was increased. He has gone from a doubter to believing that it might be possible.What I need advice on, is how should we share our beliefs in the small autism support group that we have joined? I think it is something we need to talk about, but I just don't know where to begin.

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[Guest guest]

Hi Ed,

I have people look at me like I'm nuts all the time when I talk about Mercury.

I'm a nurse,

and doctors and other nurses will say immediatedly that there is no evidence

that it's

Thimerisol. I point out simply that my son was tested for many things, and two

of the

many things we found was, he cannot excrete mercury ( " Mercury excretory level =

0 " when

we are all excreting 2 - 3 ppm at all times) and only has 3 of the 5 antibodies.

Then I say

" So, I'm thinking that all those mercury coated vaccines didn't do him any

good. " It's

almost fun to watch their faces when it dawns on them that, yes, it probably WAS

the

Thimerisol. If you have to, follow up with the fact that Thimerisol labels have

a skull and

crossbones on them.

When someone screams at you to vaccinate their child, don't bother talking

anymore.

Zealots are rough to deal with. Hey, just look at me!

>

> >

> >

> > A couple of weeks ago, there was an autism awareness rally in

> > Columbus Ohio. The speakers included various state senators,

> > psychcolgists, and a couple of adults with autism. One of the state

> > senators has a son with autism and he is fighting to help families

> > get the care and resources they need to help their kids. After the

> > rally, I introduced myself and told him how me and my wife believe

> > the thimerosal in vaccines is the main culprit in developmental

> > disorders, and that the goverment covered it up on the federal

> > level. I was prepared to have him either agree with me or site some

> > federal whitewash epidemilogical study. To my amazement he knew

> very

> > little on the subject. I suggested the book Evidence of Harm by

> > Kirby, he wrote it down and said he would check it out.

> >

> > At work I have recently got into some heated discussions about

> > vaccines and Thimerosal being the root of autism. A woman screamed

> > at me that I should vaccinate my 11 year old daughter with Merck's

> > HPv (is that right?) vaccine. I just couldn't get her and others to

> > understand. I am amazed that the majority of people think that

> > government always has their best interests in mind when they up the

> > vaacination schedule, even though I did have an amazing

> conversation

> > with a guy who at first said he thought autism was just being

> > overdiagnosed, and I pointed out that there would be more adults

> > with autism if this were so, and that the rate of developmental

> > disorders exploded when the vaccination schedule was increased. He

> > has gone from a doubter to believing that it might be possible.

> >

> > What I need advice on, is how should we share our beliefs in the

> > small autism support group that we have joined? I think it is

> > something we need to talk about, but I just don't know where to

> > begin.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I find with many people around here I just have to mention the word “autism” and THEY are the ones to say “mercury” or “vaccines” first. I then tell them about recovery in very simple terms, how I will never vaccinate my child again and how much biomed has done for my child.... They can see for themselves the difference.

On 4/29/07 8:22 AM, " emadigan01945 " <EMadigan@...> wrote:

Hi Ed,

I have people look at me like I'm nuts all the time when I talk about Mercury. I'm a nurse,

and doctors and other nurses will say immediatedly that there is no evidence that it's

Thimerisol. I point out simply that my son was tested for many things, and two of the

many things we found was, he cannot excrete mercury ( " Mercury excretory level = 0 " when

we are all excreting 2 - 3 ppm at all times) and only has 3 of the 5 antibodies. Then I say

" So, I'm thinking that all those mercury coated vaccines didn't do him any good. " It's

almost fun to watch their faces when it dawns on them that, yes, it probably WAS the

Thimerisol. If you have to, follow up with the fact that Thimerisol labels have a skull and

crossbones on them.

When someone screams at you to vaccinate their child, don't bother talking anymore.

Zealots are rough to deal with. Hey, just look at me!

[Guest guest]

Hi, you guys. I'm in Ohio, too.

Ed, has your support group touched on Hg or chelation?

Carolyn

> >

> >

> > A couple of weeks ago, there was an autism awareness rally in

> > Columbus Ohio. The speakers included various state senators,

> > psychcolgists, and a couple of adults with autism. One of the

state

> > senators has a son with autism and he is fighting to help

families

> > get the care and resources they need to help their kids. After

the

> > rally, I introduced myself and told him how me and my wife

believe

> > the thimerosal in vaccines is the main culprit in developmental

> > disorders, and that the goverment covered it up on the federal

> > level. I was prepared to have him either agree with me or site

some

> > federal whitewash epidemilogical study. To my amazement he knew

> very

> > little on the subject. I suggested the book Evidence of Harm by

> > Kirby, he wrote it down and said he would check it out.

> >

> > At work I have recently got into some heated discussions about

> > vaccines and Thimerosal being the root of autism. A woman

screamed

> > at me that I should vaccinate my 11 year old daughter with

Merck's

> > HPv (is that right?) vaccine. I just couldn't get her and others

to

> > understand. I am amazed that the majority of people think that

> > government always has their best interests in mind when they up

the

> > vaacination schedule, even though I did have an amazing

> conversation

> > with a guy who at first said he thought autism was just being

> > overdiagnosed, and I pointed out that there would be more adults

> > with autism if this were so, and that the rate of developmental

> > disorders exploded when the vaccination schedule was increased.

He

> > has gone from a doubter to believing that it might be possible.

> >

> > What I need advice on, is how should we share our beliefs in the

> > small autism support group that we have joined? I think it is

> > something we need to talk about, but I just don't know where to

> > begin.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi, you guys. I'm in Ohio, too.

>

> Ed, has your support group touched on Hg or chelation?

> Carolyn

>

Hi Carolyn, nice ot meet you. We just took today for his

evaluation for possible ABA therapy, but I have met no parents outside

of the internet who have tried Chelation and I don't even know what Hg

is. Insurance does not pay for Chelation and I really don't understand

how it could work, because from my college classes I learned that brain

cells do not regenerate, so if the Mercury damaged the brain, how could

removing it reverse the damage? Sorry for my ignorance on this subject.

On a side note, the psychologist we met for 's evaluation had a

flyer on his tac board in his office about mercury poisoning, even

though neither of us brought it up.

Ed

[Guest guest]

Ed - At the age of eight (last year), my son began hyperbaric at what we now know as the end of chelation for him (or, overlapping with this protocol just a bit). Within a couple of weeks, he went from not knowing what his shoe was to following six-step instructions and not in any rote manner whatsoever.If they are recovering CP kids totally using Hbot, I didn't see what harm there would be in trying. Fortunately, our homepath bought a mild hyperbaric about three years ago and has offered this at a reduced price to his patients for only $55 per hour whereas others charge upward of $150 per hour and even more for hard chamber.Jim of ASU and DAN researcher for ARI has just finished a paper on what treatment methods are working on our kids. He was featured last spring on Dateline and is a good friend to my local community and has deligently been on mercury and chelation since he has a fourteen year old daughter on the spectrum. I

have watched his daughter progress. I haven't seen her in about six months, but I plan to see her this weekend at our annual picnic. My son went from sitting in the corner banging and dragging his head and crying and screaming to where he is today. He is even teasing me -- something he picked up from his dad.RoxEd <fordjohnson38@...> wrote: > > Hi, you guys. I'm in Ohio, too. > > Ed, has your support group touched on Hg or chelation? > Carolyn > Hi Carolyn, nice ot meet you. We just took today for his evaluation for possible ABA therapy, but I have met no parents outside of the internet who have tried Chelation and I don't even know what Hg is. Insurance does not pay for Chelation and I really don't understand how it could work, because from my college classes I learned that brain cells do not regenerate, so if the Mercury damaged the brain, how could removing it reverse the damage? Sorry for my ignorance on this subject. On a side note, the psychologist we met for 's evaluation had a flyer on his tac board in his office about mercury poisoning, even though neither of us brought it up. Ed

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