Re: OT: a holy crap moment, Vit B6

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That is wonderful, .Thank God for holy crap.Rox" M. Webster" <jenny@...> wrote: I don't know why really... why I have never done high dose B6 with Gavin before. I guess when I first heard about it it was a NO GO, Gavin would no take a pill. I tired... couldn't make it happen. Later, 1.5 years ago we started seeing a DAN! and I decided to PILL HIM by any

means. After three days of what can only be described at WWE wrestling... he caved in. Not pills, but he would drink this nasty mix of all his supplements in a noni/grape juice mixture. AND thanks to the introduction of a very bitter seizure pill, he learned to actually swallow them 6 months ago! WELL.... yesterday it hit me that while he gets enough Magnesium in all his supplements he is only getting 10 mg of B^, so I went straight to GNC and picked some up. Today was his second day at 600 mg (85 pounds). And an hour ago, instead of throwing a HUGE freaking fit when he had a computer problem ( smashing the mouse and key board, screaming for help and crying), he calmly opened the door (and did not scream when the knob was sticking), came down stairs and said, "May I please to have some help with the 137 videos?" (he loves youtube.... there must have been some video with "137" in the title) i about fell out of my flipping chair! It not that he has never said that before... he does on occassion, but I promise you he has had such a bad year, I have not heard a nice "May I please to have some help" in over a year --its always just the screaming fit!! AND then when I couldn't fix the problem... he was simply OK with it... I didn't get

hit or screamed at. Holy Crap. .

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Don't get me wrong, I am not usually this quick to associate one thing to another, I will give it several days and play around with doseage etc until I am sure its working.

Just now I heard the cat leave his room, Gavin likes the door shut and when the cat leave the door gets opened and he usually SCREAMS, "DOOR SHUT DOOR SHUT" over and over until I shut his door... I heard the cat, and heard Gavin say "Uh-oh" and then he got up and shut his own door!!!

holy crap again!

jenny.

Re: OT: a holy crap moment, Vit B6

That is wonderful, .Thank God for holy crap.Rox" M. Webster" <jennyfaceofautism> wrote:

I don't know why really... why I have never done high dose B6 with Gavin before. I guess when I first heard about it it was a NO GO, Gavin would no take a pill. I tired... couldn't make it happen.

Later, 1.5 years ago we started seeing a DAN! and I decided to PILL HIM by any means. After three days of what can only be described at WWE wrestling... he caved in. Not pills, but he would drink this nasty mix of all his supplements in a noni/grape juice mixture.

AND thanks to the introduction of a very bitter seizure pill, he learned to actually swallow them 6 months ago!

WELL....

yesterday it hit me that while he gets enough Magnesium in all his supplements he is only getting 10 mg of B^, so I went straight to GNC and picked some up. Today was his second day at 600 mg (85 pounds).

And an hour ago, instead of throwing a HUGE freaking fit when he had a computer problem ( smashing the mouse and key board, screaming for help and crying), he calmly opened the door (and did not scream when the knob was sticking), came down stairs and said,

"May I please to have some help with the 137 videos?"

(he loves youtube.... there must have been some video with "137" in the title)

i about fell out of my flipping chair! It not that he has never said that before... he does on occassion, but I promise you he has had such a bad year, I have not heard a nice "May I please to have some help" in over a year --its always just the screaming fit!!

AND then when I couldn't fix the problem... he was simply OK with it... I didn't get hit or screamed at.

Holy Crap.

.

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I’m soooo happy for you. We have had so many “holy crap moments” in the last year- I know how it feels.

You might want to start writing this stuff down (if you don’t already). I have to keep a blog, because I forget everything

On 4/28/07 8:53 PM, " M. Webster " <jenny@...> wrote:

Don't get me wrong, I am not usually this quick to associate one thing to another, I will give it several days and play around with doseage etc until I am sure its working.

Just now I heard the cat leave his room, Gavin likes the door shut and when the cat leave the door gets opened and he usually SCREAMS, " DOOR SHUT DOOR SHUT " over and over until I shut his door... I heard the cat, and heard Gavin say " Uh-oh " and then he got up and shut his own door!!!

holy crap again!

jenny.

Re: OT: a holy crap moment, Vit B6

That is wonderful, .

Thank God for holy crap.

Rox

" M. Webster " <jenny@...> wrote:

I don't know why really... why I have never done high dose B6 with Gavin before. I guess when I first heard about it it was a NO GO, Gavin would no take a pill. I tired... couldn't make it happen.

Later, 1.5 years ago we started seeing a DAN! and I decided to PILL HIM by any means. After three days of what can only be described at WWE wrestling... he caved in. Not pills, but he would drink this nasty mix of all his supplements in a noni/grape juice mixture.

AND thanks to the introduction of a very bitter seizure pill, he learned to actually swallow them 6 months ago!

WELL....

yesterday it hit me that while he gets enough Magnesium in all his supplements he is only getting 10 mg of B^, so I went straight to GNC and picked some up. Today was his second day at 600 mg (85 pounds).

And an hour ago, instead of throwing a HUGE freaking fit when he had a computer problem ( smashing the mouse and key board, screaming for help and crying), he calmly opened the door (and did not scream when the knob was sticking), came down stairs and said,

" May I please to have some help with the 137 videos? "

(he loves youtube.... there must have been some video with " 137 " in the title)

i about fell out of my flipping chair! It not that he has never said that before... he does on occassion, but I promise you he has had such a bad year, I have not heard a nice " May I please to have some help " in over a year --its always just the screaming fit!!

AND then when I couldn't fix the problem... he was simply OK with it... I didn't get hit or screamed at.

Holy Crap.

.

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, curious to know how old your son is?????????? maurinechristine <christine@...> wrote: -I’m soooo happy for you. We have had so many “holy crap moments” in the last year- I know how it feels. You might want to start writing this stuff down (if you don’t already). I have to keep a blog, because I forget everything

:)On 4/28/07 8:53 PM, " M. Webster" <jennyfaceofautism> wrote: :)Don't get me wrong, I am not usually this quick to associate one thing to another, I will give it several days and play around with doseage etc until I am sure its working.Just now I heard the cat leave his room, Gavin likes the door shut and when the cat leave the door gets opened and he usually SCREAMS, "DOOR SHUT DOOR SHUT" over and over until I shut his door... I heard the cat, and heard Gavin say "Uh-oh" and then he got up and shut his own door!!!holy crap again!jenny. Re: OT: a holy crap moment, Vit B6 That is wonderful, .Thank God for holy crap.Rox" M. Webster" <jennyfaceofautism> wrote: I don't know why really... why I have never done high dose B6 with Gavin before. I guess when I first heard about it it was a NO

GO, Gavin would no take a pill. I tired... couldn't make it happen. Later, 1.5 years ago we started seeing a DAN! and I decided to PILL HIM by any means. After three days of what can only be described at WWE wrestling... he caved in. Not pills, but he would drink this nasty mix of all his supplements in a noni/grape juice mixture. AND thanks to the introduction of a very bitter seizure pill, he learned to actually swallow them 6 months ago! WELL.... yesterday it hit me that while he gets enough Magnesium in all his supplements he is only

getting 10 mg of B^, so I went straight to GNC and picked some up. Today was his second day at 600 mg (85 pounds). And an hour ago, instead of throwing a HUGE freaking fit when he had a computer problem ( smashing the mouse and key board, screaming for help and crying), he calmly opened the door (and did not scream when the knob was sticking), came down stairs and said, "May I please to have some help with the 137 videos?" (he loves youtube.... there must have been some video with "137" in the title) i about fell out of my flipping

chair! It not that he has never said that before... he does on occassion, but I promise you he has had such a bad year, I have not heard a nice "May I please to have some help" in over a year --its always just the screaming fit!! AND then when I couldn't fix the problem... he was simply OK with it... I didn't get hit or screamed at. Holy Crap. . Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell?Check out new cars at

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10 and a half!!

we started DAN! about 1.5 years ago and still trying to tweak things with him, he has had a very bad year or so... (never looked and acted more autistic in his life, know what I mean? )so this was encouraging tonight.. a glimpse of a calmer gavin.

Re: OT: a holy crap moment, Vit B6 That is wonderful, .Thank God for holy crap.Rox" M. Webster" <jennyfaceofautism> wrote:

I don't know why really... why I have never done high dose B6 with Gavin before. I guess when I first heard about it it was a NO GO, Gavin would no take a pill. I tired... couldn't make it happen. Later, 1.5 years ago we started seeing a DAN! and I decided to PILL HIM by any means. After three days of what can only be described at WWE wrestling... he caved in. Not pills, but he would drink this nasty mix of all his supplements in a noni/grape juice mixture. AND thanks to the introduction of a very bitter seizure pill, he learned to actually swallow them 6 months ago! WELL.... yesterday it hit me that while he gets enough Magnesium in all his supplements he is only getting 10 mg of B^, so I went straight to GNC and picked some up. Today was his second day at 600 mg (85 pounds). And an hour ago, instead of throwing a HUGE freaking fit when he had a computer problem ( smashing the mouse and key board, screaming for help and crying), he calmly opened the door (and did not scream when the knob was sticking), came down stairs and said, "May I please to have some help with the 137 videos?" (he loves youtube.... there must have been some video with "137" in the title) i about fell out of my flipping chair! It not that he has never said that before... he does on occassion, but I promise you he has had such a bad year, I have not heard a nice "May I please to have some help" in over a year --its always just the screaming fit!! AND then when I couldn't fix the problem... he was simply OK with it... I didn't get hit or screamed at. Holy Crap. .

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what a blessing... you will see more... he is young.. it will only get better.. LiaSee what's free at AOL.com.

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It's funny, when we started supplements in Nov 05, one of the first things we were given by our DAN was Kirkman's B6/magnesium. , at the time was a few days away from turning 10. Wehad been experiencing the same types of behaviors...screaming over the tiniest things. I immediately noticed that calmness when things didn't go right for him. As as an extra bonus...historically he had been experiencing seasonal affect disorder from Nov-Feb since he was 4. NO SEASONAL AFFECT AFTER WE STARTED SUPPLEMENTS!! Another thing, .... always wants the door shut too, and when I walk in (MY ROOM...where he's watching tv) he immediately puts the channel guide on so I can't see what cartoon he is watching! , mom to , 11.5, aspergers" M. Webster" <jenny@...> wrote: 10 and a half!! we started DAN! about 1.5 years ago and still trying to tweak things with him, he has had a very bad year or so... (never looked and acted more autistic in his life, know what I mean? )so this was encouraging tonight.. a glimpse of a calmer gavin. Re: OT: a holy crap moment, Vit B6 That is wonderful, .Thank God for holy crap.Rox" M. Webster" <jennyfaceofautism> wrote: I don't know why really... why I have never done high dose B6 with Gavin before. I guess when I first heard about it it was a NO GO, Gavin would no take a pill. I tired... couldn't make it happen. Later, 1.5 years ago we started seeing a DAN! and I decided to PILL HIM by any means. After three days of what can only be described at WWE wrestling... he caved in. Not pills, but he would drink this nasty mix of all his supplements in a noni/grape juice mixture. AND thanks to the introduction of a very bitter seizure pill, he learned to actually swallow them 6 months ago! WELL.... yesterday it hit me that while he gets enough Magnesium in all his supplements he is only getting 10 mg of B^, so I went straight to GNC and picked some up. Today was his second day at 600 mg (85 pounds). And an hour ago, instead of throwing a HUGE freaking fit when he had a computer problem ( smashing the mouse and key board, screaming for help and crying), he calmly opened the door (and did not scream when the knob was sticking), came down stairs and said, "May I please to have some help with the 137 videos?" (he loves youtube.... there must have been some video with "137" in the title) i about fell out of my flipping chair! It not that he has never said that before... he does on occassion, but I promise you he has had such a bad year, I have not heard a nice "May I please to have some help" in over a year --its always just the screaming fit!! AND then when I couldn't fix the problem... he was simply OK with it... I didn't get hit or screamed at. Holy Crap. . Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell?Check out new cars at Autos. <http://us.rd./evt=48245/*http://autos./new_cars.html;_ylc=X3oDMTE1YW1jcXJ2BF9TAzk3MTA3MDc2BHNlYwNtYWlsdGFncwRzbGsDbmV3LWNhcnM-> Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell?Check out new cars at Autos.

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lol, that is funny about the channel guide!!

This morning Gavin corrected his brother when Liam hit the cat... "Don't hit Daisy" and then Gavin got up and pet daisy and asked her if she was ok... NEVER has he done that.

Also, today was free of one of his psychotic-schedule-scripting moments... which usually occur twice a day at least, 20 minutes of "first dr. brads, then ride in the car, then joan, then sleep all night, then go see christy, then long ride.." (etc) to which we reply Yes or no.

If the answer is no this still goes on for 20 minutes... if the answer is yes this still goes on for 20 minutes.

Sometimes ending in tears and hitting --but always ending ugly...

we didn't do that today... not once.... holding my breath...

Re: OT: a holy crap moment, Vit B6 That is wonderful, .Thank God for holy crap.Rox" M. Webster" <jennyfaceofautism> wrote:

I don't know why really... why I have never done high dose B6 with Gavin before. I guess when I first heard about it it was a NO GO, Gavin would no take a pill. I tired... couldn't make it happen. Later, 1.5 years ago we started seeing a DAN! and I decided to PILL HIM by any means. After three days of what can only be described at WWE wrestling... he caved in. Not pills, but he would drink this nasty mix of all his supplements in a noni/grape juice mixture. AND thanks to the introduction of a very bitter seizure pill, he learned to actually swallow them 6 months ago! WELL.... yesterday it hit me that while he gets enough Magnesium in all his supplements he is only getting 10 mg of B^, so I went straight to GNC and picked some up. Today was his second day at 600 mg (85 pounds). And an hour ago, instead of throwing a HUGE freaking fit when he had a computer problem ( smashing the mouse and key board, screaming for help and crying), he calmly opened the door (and did not scream when the knob was sticking), came down stairs and said, "May I please to have some help with the 137 videos?" (he loves youtube.... there must have been some video with "137" in the title) i about fell out of my flipping chair! It not that he has never said that before... he does on occassion, but I promise you he has had such a bad year, I have not heard a nice "May I please to have some help" in over a year --its always just the screaming fit!! AND then when I couldn't fix the problem... he was simply OK with it... I didn't get hit or screamed at. Holy Crap. .

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