Re: MSNBC-Family said he was autistic

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Don't you think more and more children on the spectrum that are

becoming adults without any intervetions, services, support or help

are going to become more of a " problem " for society? I don't think

his autism (or Asperger's) caused the rampage, but maybe the

relentless depression for not getting any help, along with the toxins

causing other problems with his brain, etc. pushed him over the edge.

I belive some people are evil, but some are just sick. Not sure where

he was, but I think we're going to have more and more issues with

young ASD adults. Then society will turn against our kids even more.

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It was the Van Zandt guy who the anchor was talking to, the anchor

said the aunt said thats why the family came here. Only mentioned

once, no emphasis placed on it at all, just that he " slipped thru the

cracks " .

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Yes, and it already has happened. Suzanne

From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of patriciaa_67

Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007

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said he was autistic

Don't you think more and more children on the spectrum

that are

becoming adults without any intervetions, services, support or help

are going to become more of a " problem " for society? I don't think

his autism (or Asperger's) caused the rampage, but maybe the

relentless depression for not getting any help, along with the toxins

causing other problems with his brain, etc. pushed him over the edge.

I belive some people are evil, but some are just sick. Not sure where

he was, but I think we're going to have more and more issues with

young ASD adults. Then society will turn against our kids even more.

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> you have got to be kidding.. now I can just see it all over the

news

> headlines... this is not good.. Lia

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I would be willing to bet he was placed on some sort of drug that absolutely "skewed" his view of the world. Just another pharma "collateral damage" issue. They will never stop. God help us all. Debbiedeverelementary <kearneysix@...> wrote: It was the Van Zandt guy who the anchor was talking to, the anchor said the aunt said thats why the family came here. Only mentioned once, no emphasis placed on it at all, just that he "slipped thru the cracks". >

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just my thought but I also think the uni boomer has Asperger'sdeverelementary <kearneysix@...> wrote: It was the Van Zandt guy who the anchor was talking to, the anchor said the aunt said thats why the family came here. Only mentioned once, no emphasis placed on it at all, just that he "slipped thru the cracks". > >> > you have got to be kidding.. now I can just see it all over the > news > > headlines... this is not good.. Lia> > > >

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" Autism " has become such a trivilized term in some quarters that it

gets pinned on anyone weird going postal, by anyone else shopping for

a gentler, kinder label. Let's just say the guy was neuro diverse.

Lenny

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Anti-depressant drugs, school campus, autism, guns,timing, and the

Wizard of Oz.

So many distractions for the public and so many agendas to fulfill.

The killer was reported to have had an expressionless look - like a

Mind Controlled Assassin. How many people with Asperger's/HFA do you

know who have an expressionless look ALL the time, especially under

stress/duress? Asperger's/HFA will become the new convenient disorder

to blame for violent crimes - lots of agendas to fulfill there.

http://www.whale.to/b/mind_control.html

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It's a catch-all phrase for the people that missed out on being in

1980's 12-step groups...

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You figure he probably worked after school, weekends and summers at the

dry cleaner as well.

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> Just on MSNBC aunt in Korea said he was autistic!

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It's easy to see how the cult of Neuroinsanity can recruit people

like this by making them think they fit in someplace. I wonder if

Kathleen Seidel is celebrating this guy's diversity. I wonder if

this would have happened if he had been on Lupron.

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This is a major problem. While everyone is looking for the reason for autism. which BTW I believe it is mercury amongst other toxins in injections. What are the older kids going to do? There are NO services for them after 21. Some states such as Florida have waiting list with the numbers in the thousands. While I have an excellent job I am the single mom with NO help from the X so it is left up to me. Now I fight for due process over 100K with little progress I am now in the 3 rd circuit court. But who do I fight when my child is 21? Can someone out there answer this question for me? "Autism" has become such a trivilized term in some quarters that itgets pinned on anyone weird going postal, by anyone else shopping fora gentler, kinder label. Let's just say the guy was neuro diverse.Lenny> >> > you have got to be kidding.. now I can just see it all over the > news > > headlines... this is not good.. Lia> > > > > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > http://www.aol. <http://www.aol.com.> com.> >>

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> But who do I fight when my child is 21? Can someone out there

answer this question for me?

Nancie,

You are not alone in your question. There is a tidal wave of autistic

young adults aging out of the education system. The answers vary from

state-to-state. Those of us with older children will always be on the

leading edge of advocacy for them and those who come after.

Not all parents will be able to tend to their adult autistic children

and they will have to go into some sort of state-funded care. This is

a very costly bill that will soon come due to state legislatures and

taxpayers.

Then we will find the question " where is all this autism coming from? "

not such an academic one. We can answer, " why don't you ask the

pharamcuetical companies who have been given immunity for dirty

vaccines this question? Maybe you'll get the straighter answers than

what we got from the tobacco companies about their products not so

long ago. "

Lenny

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I had a feeling. And you know what I don't mind them talking about

him having Autism because truthfully I do worry the future of these

kids. Many of the kids who are on the " higher " end of the spectrum

struggle with depression, ocd, suicidal thoughts. But people don't

want to look at what the future may be 18 years from now when 1 in 150

college students/adults will be on the spectrum. Maybe this will

create a sense of urgency for this country!!!! Maybe people will

" wake the hell up " and look at the " flippin " evidence, before it's too

late!!!!!

And please don't think I'm saying it's ok for people to think that

" all " children with Autism could end up being mass murderers. I don't

think that way at all. I know in my son's case he is very high

functioning. You wouldn't be able to pick him out a crowd as the kid

on the spectrum. But he getting help for social/emotional issues

which now that he is preparing to enter Jr. High are becoming a

problem for him. He has even talked about just wanting to go to

heaven. It's heart breaking....but I know that he has us. So many

parents aren't getting their kids help for whatever reason (lack of

funds, denial etc.). And those are the kids I worry about when it

comes to stories like this.

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Dirty little secret about 12-step programs is that they mostly don't

work. Last study I saw of AA efficacy placed the number at 5% recovery

tops. I will add that if you are in that 5%, it's a lifesaver. But

if you think 5% is all that great, just remember you have a 25% of

getting alzehiemers in your 80s. tic tic tic.

Lenny

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That explains a lot... hic'

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Thanks for the response Lenny, years ago a support I belonged to a support group that did a cost analysis of what it would cost to raise a child with autism, that was in the 90's done by the late son & Jame Mulick. The cost has risen more now in the 00's and even though my child is 14 i wonder the what if's I am scared of sexual abuse, over medication & state run group homes. So do we start something now for our kids because mindeis never leaving my side. Unless our government own up and take responsibility. I need dollars for their mistake!schaferatsprynet <schafer@...> wrote: > But who do I fight when my child is 21? Can someone out thereanswer this question for me? Nancie,You are not alone in your question. There is a tidal wave of autisticyoung adults aging out of the education system. The answers vary fromstate-to-state. Those of us with older children will always be on theleading edge of advocacy for them and those who come after. Not all parents will be able to tend to their adult autistic childrenand they will have to go into some sort of state-funded care. This isa very costly bill that will soon come due to state legislatures andtaxpayers. Then we

will find the question "where is all this autism coming from?"not such an academic one. We can answer, "why don't you ask thepharamcuetical companies who have been given immunity for dirtyvaccines this question? Maybe you'll get the straighter answers thanwhat we got from the tobacco companies about their products not solong ago."Lenny

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Just got this from Autism Link:Brought to you by AutismLink

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CNN has pulled the reference to the shooter at Virginia Tech's

being diagnosed with autism in 1992.

Originally presented on the website at approximately 4 p.m., CNN

pulled the reference to autism later in the day at approximately

4:45 p.m.

We're not sure exactly what this means -- likely a mistranslation on

the part of CNN.

FWIW,

-Trish

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If NBC promptly gave the evidence to federal investigative authorities

like good citizens should always do what the heck were they

broadcasting?

They would never show the streaking golden casio guy running across mid-

field at a football game because it encourages others, but they can

completely and insensitively show a mass murderer fully knowing that

families are mourning their children.

It doesn't make any sense at all.

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And to think NBC fired Imus because because of his 4 words!

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Seriously, I wish someone would do a study on that...i.e, where does the mercury vapor in those who imbibe alcoholic drinks (especially wine, which at least has some recognized "health benefits" in moderation) end up? A few years ago, I even heard Dr. Boyd Haley mention that those who drink alcohol, are less likely to end up with Alzheimer's. Is it because the alcohol thins your blood somehow, and prevents the mercury vapor from getting into the bloodstream (as some forms of mercury are aquaphobic), or is it because those who drink succumb to other ailments or accidents before Alzheimer's would catch up with them? I'd be curious to find out more about this, Cheers, Aasa Hooker <brian@...> wrote: That explains a lot... hic'> > > > >> > > > > you have got to be kidding.. now I can just see

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It could have been a " boarder-line personality " , " paranoia " , or some

other " psychosis " . But ot autism.

In EOHarm , nancie f <njladygolfer57@...> wrote:

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> just my thought but I also think the uni boomer has Asperger's

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> deverelementary <kearneysix@...> wrote: It was the Van

Zandt guy who the anchor was talking to, the anchor

> said the aunt said thats why the family came here. Only mentioned

> once, no emphasis placed on it at all, just that he " slipped thru

the

> cracks " .

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> > > you have got to be kidding.. now I can just see it all over

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> > news

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Yes Nancie, you start now planning and one of the best ways to

provide for your child's future is not always a group home, but

through a plan called Self-Determination. What state do you live

in? I can send a link about what to do to get the process going now.

In the meantime, check out my site below and there are lots of links

on this federal program and a FAQ section as well.

Sally Colletti

www.advocateforautism.com

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> > But who do I fight when my child is 21? Can someone out there

> answer this question for me?

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> Nancie,

> You are not alone in your question. There is a tidal wave of

autistic

> young adults aging out of the education system. The answers vary

from

> state-to-state. Those of us with older children will always be on

the

> leading edge of advocacy for them and those who come after.

> Not all parents will be able to tend to their adult autistic

children

> and they will have to go into some sort of state-funded care. This

is

> a very costly bill that will soon come due to state legislatures and

> taxpayers.

>

> Then we will find the question " where is all this autism coming

from? "

> not such an academic one. We can answer, " why don't you ask the

> pharamcuetical companies who have been given immunity for dirty

> vaccines this question? Maybe you'll get the straighter answers than

> what we got from the tobacco companies about their products not so

> long ago. "

>

> Lenny

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How about anarchist? How about " manchurian " stooge who successfully

completed one crime, returned to his master, then sent on another

mission? There are sleepers and then there are walkers.

Who knows???? Maybe he was egocentric enough to kill in order to have

his face on NBC? Maybe he feasted on 's movie?

All I can think of is if he was autistic somebody here would have to

know him, worked with him. This essentially was not forth-coming.

When the guy ran Gov. Corzine off the road we knew all about him in a

couple days. This guy leaves lots and lots of stuff for you to soak

up. That's what he wanted. He wanted you worshipping at his feet.

The label of autism came from South Korea and not from his teachers,

therapists, etc. I place pin the tail on autism in the arena with

bird flu for journalistic integrity.

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