Guest guest Posted April 18, 2007 Report Share Posted April 18, 2007 I hope you are right but it won't be that easy. All the moneyed powerful interests, including most at AS are cheering Gerberding on. What you consider lies they see as courageous and forthright, in the face of unreliable anecdotes about the efficacy of chelation. Until we have at least one study showing chelation improves cognitive performance and/or other improvements we have little chance of succeeding. That is why it is so suspicious that the IRB shut down the NIMH chelation study on the basis of a crap rat chelation study. The researchers know this and yet the study will now be delayed almost a year at a crucial time. Do not underestimate the forces that support Gerberding. Remember that a number of Board members at AS and SAB members at AS are cheering her on and rooting for her. And AS claims to be our community. The way they fight against kids successfully recovery from mercury poisoning is by denying our reality, challenging our credibility, hyping their view in the media, hijacking our community, and exhausting our resources. Sorry, our view of the world is not the prevailing one even if we know, as we do, what is helping to heal our kids. Remember the Bushites who claim they can create reality. Same thing is true with Gerberding and company. Oh, by the way, the CDC director before Gerberding, Koplan (the one who started the IOM immunization review process that whitewashed vaccines) is on the Marcus Foundation board of directors. Mr. Marcus is a Board member of AS, and according to Bob , asked Mr. to start AS and provided the $25million seed money. Any question whose corner AS is in? Clearly not. On Apr 17, 2007, at 11:37 PM, wrote: If Gerberding has become so twisted that she has to resort to outright lies then it will not be long before all CDC credibility is destroyed. I am surprised by this because of all the people that have been in trouble recently because of recorded public statements being used against them. You would think she knows better than this but it looks like she is extremely desperate and frightened and is acting irrationally. I bet the success of all the kids being chelated has the CDC peeing their pants. How can you fight against kids who are sucessfully recovering from mercury poisoning? Posted by: " Kim " delicateflower_kk@... delicateflower_kk Tue Apr 17, 2007 4:07 pm (PST) You mentioned that Gerberding lied repeatedly. I don't know the facts or science behind all of this, but perhaps someone who does could write a rebuttal and send it to the senators who were present at the hearing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2007 Report Share Posted April 18, 2007 CDC stands for U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Invention. > > > If Gerberding has become so twisted that she has to resort to outright > lies then it will not be long before all CDC credibility is destroyed. > I am surprised by this because of all the people that have been in > trouble recently because of recorded public statements being used > against them. > You would think she knows better than this but it looks like she is > extremely desperate and frightened and is acting irrationally. > I bet the success of all the kids being chelated has the CDC peeing > their pants. How can you fight against kids who are sucessfully > recovering from mercury poisoning? > > > > > Posted by: " Kim " delicateflower_kk@... delicateflower_kk > Tue Apr 17, 2007 4:07 pm (PST) > You mentioned that Gerberding lied repeatedly. I > don't know the facts or science behind all of > this, but perhaps someone who does could write a > rebuttal and send it to the senators who were > present at the hearing. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2007 Report Share Posted April 18, 2007 What I see is very encouraging 1. Larry King Show 2. Oprah Show 3.CDC admission of 1 in 150 4.katie statements 5.CDC resorting to lies 6. VICP hearings being made public 7.eoh movie on the horizon 8.science proving mercury in the bodies of autistic kids 9.hundreds of chelated kids getting better and the whole chelation treatment being modified to become more effective 10.michael moore movie sicko causing others to question pharma(not a fan of his) 11.election coming which will guarantee someone pandering to our cause and possibly wanting to use this issue as a weapon 12.discover news article The tobacco industry had power,influence and money and they got brought down without the internet. I see one big hole in the mercury dike that is getting bigger by the day, add to that a growing number of angry families who grow even more angry as the evidence continues to unfold and you have an increasing powerful force that I would not want to be against me. I believe that as the truth comes out you will see people like Bob turning against the CDC as well and there will be a tremendous powerful outcry when it becomes clear that some willfully hurt millions of children for financial gain so they could make a few extra bucks of blood money. > > > If Gerberding has become so twisted that she has to resort to outright > lies then it will not be long before all CDC credibility is destroyed. > I am surprised by this because of all the people that have been in > trouble recently because of recorded public statements being used > against them. > You would think she knows better than this but it looks like she is > extremely desperate and frightened and is acting irrationally. > I bet the success of all the kids being chelated has the CDC peeing > their pants. How can you fight against kids who are sucessfully > recovering from mercury poisoning? > > > > Posted by: " Kim " delicateflower_kk@... delicateflower_kk > Tue Apr 17, 2007 4:07 pm (PST) > You mentioned that Gerberding lied repeatedly. I > don't know the facts or science behind all of > this, but perhaps someone who does could write a > rebuttal and send it to the senators who were > present at the hearing. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2007 Report Share Posted April 18, 2007 I hope you are right. On Apr 18, 2007, at 1:15 AM, wrote: What I see is very encouraging 1. Larry King Show 2. Oprah Show 3.CDC admission of 1 in 150 4.katie statements 5.CDC resorting to lies 6. VICP hearings being made public 7.eoh movie on the horizon 8.science proving mercury in the bodies of autistic kids 9.hundreds of chelated kids getting better and the whole chelation treatment being modified to become more effective 10.michael moore movie sicko causing others to question pharma(not a fan of his) 11.election coming which will guarantee someone pandering to our cause and possibly wanting to use this issue as a weapon 12.discover news article The tobacco industry had power,influence and money and they got brought down without the internet. I see one big hole in the mercury dike that is getting bigger by the day, add to that a growing number of angry families who grow even more angry as the evidence continues to unfold and you have an increasing powerful force that I would not want to be against me. I believe that as the truth comes out you will see people like Bob turning against the CDC as well and there will be a tremendous powerful outcry when it becomes clear that some willfully hurt millions of children for financial gain so they could make a few extra bucks of blood money. > > > If Gerberding has become so twisted that she has to resort to outright > lies then it will not be long before all CDC credibility is destroyed. > I am surprised by this because of all the people that have been in > trouble recently because of recorded public statements being used > against them. > You would think she knows better than this but it looks like she is > extremely desperate and frightened and is acting irrationally. > I bet the success of all the kids being chelated has the CDC peeing > their pants. How can you fight against kids who are sucessfully > recovering from mercury poisoning? > > > > Posted by: " Kim " delicateflower_kk@... delicateflower_kk > Tue Apr 17, 2007 4:07 pm (PST) > You mentioned that Gerberding lied repeatedly. I > don't know the facts or science behind all of > this, but perhaps someone who does could write a > rebuttal and send it to the senators who were > present at the hearing. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2007 Report Share Posted April 18, 2007 RE: If Gerberding has become so twisted that she has to resort to outright lies then it will not be long before all CDC credibility is destroyed. I am surprised by this because of all the people that have been in trouble recently because of recorded public statements being used against them. Would someone who attended the meeting, or listened to it, please detail Dr. Gerberding's lies. It would be helpful to document them and refute each and every one. Simply repeating over and over that she lied, does no good. We need to vigorously address them. Harry H.See what's free at AOL.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2007 Report Share Posted April 18, 2007 Choice Gerberding? Knowing better or collapsing in a fit of hysteria for having to admit to the worst iatrogenic scandal in the history of medicine. So, what are a few/many lies? the beginning of the end for the CDC If Gerberding has become so twisted that she has to resort to outright lies then it will not be long before all CDC credibility is destroyed. I am surprised by this because of all the people that have been in trouble recently because of recorded public statements being used against them.You would think she knows better than this but it looks like she is extremely desperate and frightened and is acting irrationally.I bet the success of all the kids being chelated has the CDC peeing their pants. How can you fight against kids who are sucessfully recovering from mercury poisoning?Posted by: "Kim" delicateflower_kk delicateflower_kk Tue Apr 17, 2007 4:07 pm (PST) You mentioned that Gerberding lied repeatedly. Idon't know the facts or science behind all ofthis, but perhaps someone who does could write arebuttal and send it to the senators who werepresent at the hearing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2007 Report Share Posted April 18, 2007 THE BIRD FLU IS COMING! THE BIRD FLU IS COMING! Re: the beginning of the end for the CDC CDC stands for U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Invention.>> > If Gerberding has become so twisted that she has to resort to outright > lies then it will not be long before all CDC credibility is destroyed. > I am surprised by this because of all the people that have been in > trouble recently because of recorded public statements being used > against them.> You would think she knows better than this but it looks like she is > extremely desperate and frightened and is acting irrationally.> I bet the success of all the kids being chelated has the CDC peeing > their pants. How can you fight against kids who are sucessfully > recovering from mercury poisoning?> > > > > Posted by: "Kim" delicateflower_kk@... delicateflower_kk > Tue Apr 17, 2007 4:07 pm (PST) > You mentioned that Gerberding lied repeatedly. I> don't know the facts or science behind all of> this, but perhaps someone who does could write a> rebuttal and send it to the senators who were> present at the hearing.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2007 Report Share Posted April 18, 2007 Another: The fact that they had to nail Imus for something he has been doing for 30 years- because they couldn't shut him up any other way. Re: the beginning of the end for the CDC What I see is very encouraging1. Larry King Show2. Oprah Show3.CDC admission of 1 in 1504.katie statements5.CDC resorting to lies6. VICP hearings being made public7.eoh movie on the horizon 8.science proving mercury in the bodies of autistic kids9.hundreds of chelated kids getting better and the whole chelation treatment being modified to become more effective10.michael moore movie sicko causing others to question pharma(not a fan of his)11.election coming which will guarantee someone pandering to our cause and possibly wanting to use this issue as a weapon12.discover news articleThe tobacco industry had power,influence and money and they got brought down without the internet.I see one big hole in the mercury dike that is getting bigger by the day, add to that a growing number of angry families who grow even more angry as the evidence continues to unfold and you have an increasing powerful force that I would not want to be against me.I believe that as the truth comes out you will see people like Bob turning against the CDC as well and there will be a tremendous powerful outcry when it becomes clear that some willfully hurt millions of children for financial gain so they could make a few extra bucks of blood money.> > > If Gerberding has become so twisted that she has to resort to outright> lies then it will not be long before all CDC credibility is destroyed.> I am surprised by this because of all the people that have been in> trouble recently because of recorded public statements being used> against them.> You would think she knows better than this but it looks like she is> extremely desperate and frightened and is acting irrationally.> I bet the success of all the kids being chelated has the CDC peeing> their pants. How can you fight against kids who are sucessfully> recovering from mercury poisoning?> > > > Posted by: "Kim" delicateflower_kk@... delicateflower_kk> Tue Apr 17, 2007 4:07 pm (PST)> You mentioned that Gerberding lied repeatedly. I> don't know the facts or science behind all of> this, but perhaps someone who does could write a> rebuttal and send it to the senators who were> present at the hearing.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2007 Report Share Posted April 18, 2007 To my knowledge-there is no decision on whether or not the June 11th hearing will be made public. anybody????????hcoleman <stratpat@...> wrote: Another: The fact that they had to nail Imus for something he has been doing for 30 years- because they couldn't shut him up any other way. Re: the beginning of the end for the CDC What I see is very encouraging1. Larry King Show2. Oprah Show3.CDC admission of 1 in 1504.katie statements5.CDC resorting to lies6. VICP hearings being made public7.eoh movie on the horizon 8.science proving mercury in the bodies of autistic kids9.hundreds of chelated kids getting better and the whole chelation treatment being modified to become more effective10.michael moore movie sicko causing others to question pharma(not a fan of his)11.election coming which will guarantee someone pandering to our cause and possibly wanting to use this issue as a weapon12.discover news articleThe tobacco industry had power,influence and money and they got brought down without the internet.I see one big hole in the mercury dike that is getting bigger by the day, add to that a growing number of angry families who grow even more angry as the evidence continues to unfold and you have an increasing powerful force that I would not want to be against me.I believe that as the truth comes out you will see people like Bob turning against the CDC as well and there will be a tremendous powerful outcry when it becomes clear that some willfully hurt millions of children for financial gain so they could make a few extra bucks of blood money.> > > If Gerberding has become so twisted that she has to resort to outright> lies then it will not be long before all CDC credibility is destroyed.> I am surprised by this because of all the people that have been in> trouble recently because of recorded public statements being used> against them.> You would think she knows better than this but it looks like she is> extremely desperate and frightened and is acting irrationally.> I bet the success of all the kids being chelated has the CDC peeing> their pants. How can you fight against kids who are sucessfully> recovering from mercury poisoning?> > > > Posted by: "Kim" delicateflower_kk@... delicateflower_kk> Tue Apr 17, 2007 4:07 pm (PST)> You mentioned that Gerberding lied repeatedly. I> don't know the facts or science behind all of> this, but perhaps someone who does could write a> rebuttal and send it to the senators who were> present at the hearing.> Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check out new cars at Autos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2007 Report Share Posted April 18, 2007 > From: > Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 11:37 PM > > I bet the success of all the kids being chelated has the CDC peeing > their pants. How can you fight against kids who are sucessfully > recovering from mercury poisoning? By outlawing their treatment? Just a thought. Marty -- Asperger's/High Functioning Autism Homeschooler's discussion list as-hfa-homeschool/ Webmaster's Bulletin Board - http://bbs.face2interface.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2007 Report Share Posted April 18, 2007 Think outlaw. Think Codex! Re: the beginning of the end for the CDC > From: > Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 11:37 PM>> I bet the success of all the kids being chelated has the CDC peeing> their pants. How can you fight against kids who are sucessfully> recovering from mercury poisoning?By outlawing their treatment?Just a thought.Marty-- Asperger's/High Functioning Autism Homeschooler's discussion listas-hfa-homeschool/Webmaster's Bulletin Board - http://bbs.face2interface.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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