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Dear Gail,

Some pharmacies carry them.

I have them for sale at $2 each plus mailing.

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Dr. Saul Pressman

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> Some pharmacies carry them.

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>Saul, does one need a scrip when buying them at a pharmacy? Gail

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Dear Gail,

Most places not, but phone around.

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> > Some pharmacies carry them.

> > I have them for sale at $2 each plus mailing.

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> >Saul, does one need a scrip when buying them at a pharmacy? Gail

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are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing

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own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to

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Hello All,

All my life, I've been going to the bathroom " on demand " . I've reached a

point where it is simply becoming too onerous for me to be transferred on

and off a commode chair due to difficult- to- access attendant care.

I'd like to hear from some of our female group members as to their

experiences with catheterization; in particular, the pros and cons of the

process. I'm interested in knowing things like is it difficult to bathe, is

pain ever an issue, and what other issues have you come across? I don't know

anyone who uses a catheter and I am keen to learn from some first-hand

users.

Any suggestions/advice/recommendations you might have for someone

considering embarking on such a journey would be greatly appreciated. I'm

hoping this change will improve my quality of life even by allowing me to

drink more fluids which is always a good thing.

Thanks in advance.

Karyna

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Karyna,

I had my supra pubic catheter placed in May 2003. It's a surgically placed

stoma between my naval and pubic bone that goes directly to my bladder. This is

what I wrote to someone else on this list in 2005, and I have updated it a bit:

" In this 2nd year I don't feel it there. I take 2.5 mg of oxybutynin (generic

for Ditropan) to prevent bladder spasms. This is a very low dose - 1/2 for a

child but seems to be enough. It's painful when I have infections or don't drink

enough, and can hurt to change under those circumstances. It hurt during the 1st

year (a 2-3 on a scale of 1-10). My friend said it's very much like a G-tube in

that regard. Asshole surgeon told me it wouldn't hurt at all, but all his

patients are paralyzed...duh. They tried to make me go in monthly to have a

nurse change it, but it's not hard to do so I had my quadriplegic friend teach

me, and I taught my PAs to do it. I remember a urethral catheter hurting lots

more and being constantly uncomfortable. The supra pubic catheter thankfully

doesn't interfere with my sex life. I only regret I didn't get it sooner to

avoid the kidney stones that began developing in my early 20s because I didn't

drink/pee enough. "

The surgery went very well because I arranged with the intake nurse, surgeon,

and the operating room supervisor (most important) to allow my attendant to be

in there with me. Without her there, I likely would have had injuries like

did (check with Geary on this list about her experience). My attendant did

a great job being my protector while at the same time being being very liked and

appreciated by the staff who eventually understood how fragile I am. On the

other hand, the surgeon was rough and careless with my legs and didn't think it

mattered because I was unconscious. My attendant had to shove her hand between

him and me because he ignored her concerns about him leaning on my foot. The

anesthesiologist was great. He tried to do a spinal to avoid putting my under,

but my tail bone was too decalcified and my face went numb instead of going numb

from the waist down.

I was allowed to go home the same day, but chose to stay 1 night because I was

so exhausted. I was up in my chair the next day, and back to work 7 days later.

I keep my catheter drainage bag in a very pretty bag tied to the side of my

wheelchair. No one can see it and it holds 2000cc so I only have to empty it at

the end of the day. It's so wonderful not having to depend on an attendant to

help me pee, and it's great to not be distracted constantly by a full bladder.

I stopped taking the oxybutynin about 2 years ago because it affected my

short-term memory, a common but rarely disclosed side effect. The spasms are

minor and rare if I stay hydrated. Still no regrets 8 years later.

A friend of mine, also with SMA, had a different procedure done called the

Mitrofanoff Procedure. If you have the mobility to manage catheterizing

yourself via your bely button, this may be a good option. See:

http://newmobility.com/articleViewIE.cfm?id=11693

Good luck!

Alana

>

> Hello All,

>

> All my life, I've been going to the bathroom " on demand " . I've reached a

> point where it is simply becoming too onerous for me to be transferred on

> and off a commode chair due to difficult- to- access attendant care.

>

> I'd like to hear from some of our female group members as to their

> experiences with catheterization; in particular, the pros and cons of the

> process. I'm interested in knowing things like is it difficult to bathe, is

> pain ever an issue, and what other issues have you come across? I don't know

> anyone who uses a catheter and I am keen to learn from some first-hand

> users.

>

> Any suggestions/advice/recommendations you might have for someone

> considering embarking on such a journey would be greatly appreciated. I'm

> hoping this change will improve my quality of life even by allowing me to

> drink more fluids which is always a good thing.

>

> Thanks in advance.

>

> Karyna

>

>

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Hi Alana,

So glad this has helped you. I, too, have kidney stones now (I'm 34) and may

need to consider my options. Is there an odor from the urine bag? ~a

From: althegrrl <alanarutht@...>

Subject: Re: catheters

Date: Sunday, August 7, 2011, 4:20 PM

 

Karyna,

I had my supra pubic catheter placed in May 2003. It's a surgically placed

stoma between my naval and pubic bone that goes directly to my bladder. This is

what I wrote to someone else on this list in 2005, and I have updated it a bit:

" In this 2nd year I don't feel it there. I take 2.5 mg of oxybutynin (generic

for Ditropan) to prevent bladder spasms. This is a very low dose - 1/2 for a

child but seems to be enough. It's painful when I have infections or don't drink

enough, and can hurt to change under those circumstances. It hurt during the 1st

year (a 2-3 on a scale of 1-10). My friend said it's very much like a G-tube in

that regard. Asshole surgeon told me it wouldn't hurt at all, but all his

patients are paralyzed...duh. They tried to make me go in monthly to have a

nurse change it, but it's not hard to do so I had my quadriplegic friend teach

me, and I taught my PAs to do it. I remember a urethral catheter hurting lots

more and being constantly uncomfortable. The supra pubic catheter thankfully

doesn't interfere with my sex life. I only regret I didn't get it sooner to

avoid the kidney stones that began developing in my early 20s because I didn't

drink/pee enough. "

The surgery went very well because I arranged with the intake nurse, surgeon,

and the operating room supervisor (most important) to allow my attendant to be

in there with me. Without her there, I likely would have had injuries like

did (check with Geary on this list about her experience). My attendant did

a great job being my protector while at the same time being being very liked and

appreciated by the staff who eventually understood how fragile I am. On the

other hand, the surgeon was rough and careless with my legs and didn't think it

mattered because I was unconscious. My attendant had to shove her hand between

him and me because he ignored her concerns about him leaning on my foot. The

anesthesiologist was great. He tried to do a spinal to avoid putting my under,

but my tail bone was too decalcified and my face went numb instead of going numb

from the waist down.

I was allowed to go home the same day, but chose to stay 1 night because I was

so exhausted. I was up in my chair the next day, and back to work 7 days later.

I keep my catheter drainage bag in a very pretty bag tied to the side of my

wheelchair. No one can see it and it holds 2000cc so I only have to empty it at

the end of the day. It's so wonderful not having to depend on an attendant to

help me pee, and it's great to not be distracted constantly by a full bladder.

I stopped taking the oxybutynin about 2 years ago because it affected my

short-term memory, a common but rarely disclosed side effect. The spasms are

minor and rare if I stay hydrated. Still no regrets 8 years later.

A friend of mine, also with SMA, had a different procedure done called the

Mitrofanoff Procedure. If you have the mobility to manage catheterizing

yourself via your bely button, this may be a good option. See:

http://newmobility.com/articleViewIE.cfm?id=11693

Good luck!

Alana

>

> Hello All,

>

> All my life, I've been going to the bathroom " on demand " . I've reached a

> point where it is simply becoming too onerous for me to be transferred on

> and off a commode chair due to difficult- to- access attendant care.

>

> I'd like to hear from some of our female group members as to their

> experiences with catheterization; in particular, the pros and cons of the

> process. I'm interested in knowing things like is it difficult to bathe, is

> pain ever an issue, and what other issues have you come across? I don't know

> anyone who uses a catheter and I am keen to learn from some first-hand

> users.

>

> Any suggestions/advice/recommendations you might have for someone

> considering embarking on such a journey would be greatly appreciated. I'm

> hoping this change will improve my quality of life even by allowing me to

> drink more fluids which is always a good thing.

>

> Thanks in advance.

>

> Karyna

>

>

>

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Hi a,

There is no odor from the bag. I use 2 of them (day/night) and wash them with a

10% bleach solution and then plain water. I hang them open over an empty basin

in the bathroom to dry. Many people I know use a vinegar solution instead. I

use bleach because of antibiotic-resistant urinary tract infections I get

regularly because of the kidney stones. Vinegar is usually sufficient for most

people.

Alana

>

> >

>

> > Hello All,

>

> >

>

> > All my life, I've been going to the bathroom " on demand " . I've reached a

>

> > point where it is simply becoming too onerous for me to be transferred on

>

> > and off a commode chair due to difficult- to- access attendant care.

>

> >

>

> > I'd like to hear from some of our female group members as to their

>

> > experiences with catheterization; in particular, the pros and cons of the

>

> > process. I'm interested in knowing things like is it difficult to bathe, is

>

> > pain ever an issue, and what other issues have you come across? I don't know

>

> > anyone who uses a catheter and I am keen to learn from some first-hand

>

> > users.

>

> >

>

> > Any suggestions/advice/recommendations you might have for someone

>

> > considering embarking on such a journey would be greatly appreciated. I'm

>

> > hoping this change will improve my quality of life even by allowing me to

>

> > drink more fluids which is always a good thing.

>

> >

>

> > Thanks in advance.

>

> >

>

> > Karyna

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

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Thanks!! ~a

From: althegrrl <alanarutht@...>

Subject: Re: catheters

Date: Sunday, August 7, 2011, 11:30 PM

 

Hi a,

There is no odor from the bag. I use 2 of them (day/night) and wash them with a

10% bleach solution and then plain water. I hang them open over an empty basin

in the bathroom to dry. Many people I know use a vinegar solution instead. I

use bleach because of antibiotic-resistant urinary tract infections I get

regularly because of the kidney stones. Vinegar is usually sufficient for most

people.

Alana

>

> >

>

> > Hello All,

>

> >

>

> > All my life, I've been going to the bathroom " on demand " . I've reached a

>

> > point where it is simply becoming too onerous for me to be transferred on

>

> > and off a commode chair due to difficult- to- access attendant care.

>

> >

>

> > I'd like to hear from some of our female group members as to their

>

> > experiences with catheterization; in particular, the pros and cons of the

>

> > process. I'm interested in knowing things like is it difficult to bathe, is

>

> > pain ever an issue, and what other issues have you come across? I don't know

>

> > anyone who uses a catheter and I am keen to learn from some first-hand

>

> > users.

>

> >

>

> > Any suggestions/advice/recommendations you might have for someone

>

> > considering embarking on such a journey would be greatly appreciated. I'm

>

> > hoping this change will improve my quality of life even by allowing me to

>

> > drink more fluids which is always a good thing.

>

> >

>

> > Thanks in advance.

>

> >

>

> > Karyna

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

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