Guest guest Posted February 9, 2001 Report Share Posted February 9, 2001 The first out of pulic school palcement could be an IU setting - either a class run by an IU or a school run by the IU. After that could be the Approved Private School. there is a list of these on the PDE site. My son went that route and is now in a APS , funded 60% by the state and 40% by the SD. It could have been avoided if the LSD wanted to create an appropriate setting for his education, but the did't and I would ot want my son in a class where the teachers and the LSD had o intention of allowing him to suceed. Sara _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2001 Report Share Posted February 9, 2001 cindy, well there is a self contained classroom setting, and there are also special ed schools out there too, there is one only 16 miles from where I live, where many of the adults with disabilities around here have gone, but they started ECSE and integration before nathan started school and he went to ECSE and reg preschool, then into public school, but I think it depends wheather or not the school can handle the child's needs etc. I know of a few from here who go to those schools over there, even a little girl w/ds but low functioning and is probably around 11-12 now, she was a few years older than nathan but not as functioning as nathan even at the ECSE the teacher had never tought a child w/ds who learned as fast as nathan did back then. I see her now and then, I think she may be autistic too, she doesnt talk, aggressive behavior, just sits there in her saggy diaper on the floor, but i have been told her parents never did anything with her etc, and I never see her parents etc, so who knows, some families are like that. a. Placements > Can someone tell me, is there anyone who's child is in a different type of > placement educational wise other then a public school setting? They are > beginning to look into other placement options for the student that I work > with, and I was wondering if anyone could give me some input of what other > kinds of placements situations they have experienced or evn what other kind > of placements are there even available. I am not sure what they are looking > for, ( just a Para no one asks my opinions ) and I dont get a lot of > feedback into what they are looking for. what other olacements are there? > > thanks for any information > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2001 Report Share Posted February 10, 2001 In a message dated 2/9/01 10:35:52 AM Eastern Standard Time, texasbluebonnets@... writes: << Can someone tell me, is there anyone who's child is in a different type of placement educational wise other then a public school setting? They are beginning to look into other placement options for the student that I work with, and I was wondering if anyone could give me some input of what other kinds of placements situations they have experienced or evn what other kind of placements are there even available. I am not sure what they are looking for, ( just a Para no one asks my opinions ) and I dont get a lot of feedback into what they are looking for. what other olacements are there? thanks for any information >> Hi , My daughter Madison (7, DS/ASD) goes to what is called an approved private school, paid for by our SD. APS's are funded by the state, but Maddie's is highly endowed with private monies also. It's a special needs school, educating mostly kids with autism these days. However, it initially was opened by parents of a child with DS and most of the students/residents had DS. It continues to be a mostly residential facility, but Maddie is just a day student. There are also private Catholic schools here in Philly for special needs students, but so far I've yet to meet someone who has it paid for by the SD. Then there are what are called charter schools, Montessori (again private) and then even some known as alternative schools.....although I personally don't know of any alternative schools dealing with special needs. Hope this helps. Donna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2001 Report Share Posted February 10, 2001 Elie is also in an approved private shool. Not the same one as Maddie, but not far from her. Ours also has a private endowment and was originally for people who were deaf and feble mined. It too is mostly a residential school, but Elie is bussed each day by the school district. It is also in the Philly area. In PA, APS at the school district's recommendation with state agreement is funded 605% by the state and 40% by the school district. I personally feel that PA lets the school district off the hook for local shooling but my son is benefitting by their stupidity. Sara _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2001 Report Share Posted June 8, 2001 In a message dated 6/8/01 3:46:44 AM Eastern Daylight Time, crtreadwell@... writes: > I am trying to make a decision whether to keep my son in a public school or > change him over to a school here that is for Autistic Children . has > anyone here done that? If so, could you share with me please your thoughts > on the differances good or bad? I am leaning towards placing him in the > autistic school. it is my idea, just wanting to see. it has been a struggle > for Danny from day one. NO matter what we do. > > thanks > Carolyn > Carolyn, This is such a personal decision and obviously not a one size fits all thing. Inclusion and public school environments work great for many kids, but naturally it all depends on where you live, that particular year, that particular teacher, that particular school/program. Lots of variables. Even if we lived in an area with an excellent reputation for inclusion (we don't), or in an area with excellent public schools (we don't), Maddie would not be able to do it. It has taken us YEARS just to get her to tolerate being in a classroom setting with 5 other children. She is now 7 and goes to an approved private school where they implement ABA. We really need to address her autism, first and foremost. You have to determine what you feel your child's most important needs are at the moment. It's not always as clear as it is to us, I realize that. I would absolutely recommend that you go and visit any and all schools that are within the realm of possibility for your consideration. Certainly, sometimes you just like a particular teacher, but for the most part, you get a gist of the philosophy of the school when you personally visit. Good luck, Donna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2001 Report Share Posted June 8, 2001 In a message dated 6/8/01 3:46:44 AM Eastern Daylight Time, crtreadwell@... writes: > I am trying to make a decision whether to keep my son in a public school or > change him over to a school here that is for Autistic Children . has > anyone here done that? If so, could you share with me please your thoughts > on the differances good or bad? I am leaning towards placing him in the > autistic school. it is my idea, just wanting to see. it has been a struggle > for Danny from day one. NO matter what we do. > > thanks > Carolyn > Carolyn, This is such a personal decision and obviously not a one size fits all thing. Inclusion and public school environments work great for many kids, but naturally it all depends on where you live, that particular year, that particular teacher, that particular school/program. Lots of variables. Even if we lived in an area with an excellent reputation for inclusion (we don't), or in an area with excellent public schools (we don't), Maddie would not be able to do it. It has taken us YEARS just to get her to tolerate being in a classroom setting with 5 other children. She is now 7 and goes to an approved private school where they implement ABA. We really need to address her autism, first and foremost. You have to determine what you feel your child's most important needs are at the moment. It's not always as clear as it is to us, I realize that. I would absolutely recommend that you go and visit any and all schools that are within the realm of possibility for your consideration. Certainly, sometimes you just like a particular teacher, but for the most part, you get a gist of the philosophy of the school when you personally visit. Good luck, Donna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2001 Report Share Posted June 8, 2001 This year, my son went from regular public school in a Life Skills class of 7 with a teacher and 2 aids to a quasi-public school for only kids with disabilities in a Life Skills level class with 9 kids and 3 aids plus 1 teacher, to a private school in a Life Skills class where PECS, socialization, behavior modeling are the major modes of education plus lots of speech and OT as well as dance and music therapy - also 7 kids, one teacher, 3 aids plus a fantastic behavior manager. My decision was based on the public school placement - horrible choice in a very large public high school, the quasi-public that met no needs except a new way to siphon money out of special ed, or a class education in a private school paid for with public money. Have you been to the autistic school? Did you like what you saw? Why aren't you happy with the current placement? Sara _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2001 Report Share Posted June 9, 2001 > Have you been to the autistic school? Did you like > what you saw? Why > aren't you happy with the current placement? > > Sara Hi Sara, Yes, I have been out to visit the school for Autistic children. And really, I did like what I saw. The reason why I'm not really happy with Danny being in the placement he is currently in , which is a public school, is that " He " doesn't seem to be happy. He started out in regular Kindergarten, and really he didn't do to well. He had a great teacher, and a great aide that really worked with him, but he was always fighting like he was trying to get out of that classroom. The kids were great with him, always inviting him to join them, but if they asked to much, he became agressive to them. he has had such extreme behaviors that have just gotten worse over the years. We have tried so many things. Now he is in a Special Ed classroom half the day and they try to get him into a regular classroom as often as possible. sometimes he will go, but most times he won't. They also do like some others of you have mentioned, the recess, lunch, art.. music too I think. He will eat lunch with them, sometimes, most times he would prefer to stay in the Sped Ed classroom to eat. and he fights them going to the other classes too. It's just that a friend here of mine had suggested this other school and I did go check it out, and I just am ready and wondering, would this other school be better for him? Am I making to right choices for my son? I want so badly to walk into a school and see my son smiling, and happy, and getting some happiness out of life, instead of this constant fight. I know he has a right to be in the public system, but does he want to be in the public system? God forgive me, but most times, it just doesnt seem so. Well forgive me, I am just in a depressed state tonight. it's late, and I am stressing over making a decision. I think I shall go to bed, and sleep on it. take care and talk more later. Carolyn __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2001 Report Share Posted June 9, 2001 In a message dated 6/9/01 2:52:22 AM Eastern Daylight Time, crtreadwell@... writes: << He started out in regular Kindergarten, and really he didn't do to well. He had a great teacher, and a great aide that really worked with him, but he was always fighting like he was trying to get out of that classroom. The kids were great with him, always inviting him to join them, but if they asked to much, he became agressive to them. he has had such extreme behaviors that have just gotten worse over the years. We have tried so many things. >> Carolyn, Have they done a functional behavior assessment? Do you know " why " he doesn't seem to like it? I think it is really important to try to figure out the " why " . My experiences with my son have been that when he has struggled the most, screamed alot at school, etc, that someone isn't doing something just right there. During the past two years, it has been a combination of several aides and other staff who have not understood his disability and " why " he is getting upset and the need to really structure his environment within an inclusive setting. Pulling it all together takes a pretty willing and open school district in this day and age....and ALOT of work on the part of a parent. I think you really need to do what you think is best for your child...every child is different. Lauri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2001 Report Share Posted June 9, 2001 Just so you know - it took YEARS for Elie to eat in a cafeteria instead of in the classroom or in the hall. Not the school making him different - he just is different. It took YEARS for him to enter an art room - let alone touch anything in it or get any pleasure from art. So I am not sure it being the RIGHT of the child to be in public school, integrated is the best thing for some of our children. It certainly has ceased to be for our son. And he is happier most of the time being in his special place. It is a tough decision. And each time we let go of another piece of the dream of " normal " it is tough. Who ever said life was easy??? Sara _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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