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Lauri,

Over the years, we have tried a variety of meds for , including the

SSRIs, Prozac and Zoloft. Neither one helped . In fact, they

actually made his attention span worse and he started having " manic " episodes

where he would make really loud noises (he is non-verbal) like screaming.

That stopped as soon as we took him off the medication. We also tried

Catapres (Clonidine) which was supposed to stop all the stimming so that his

attention span would improve. Although it did calm him down, it also sedated

him and didn't do much for his attention span overall. Of all the

medications we have tried, Risperdal (Risperidone) has been the most

beneficial for . We actually started using it for behavior control

(self-injurious and aggressive behaviors). In addition to having a

remarkable effect on those behaviors, his attention span has increased

considerably. There are side-effects and potential side-effects with any of

the psychotropic drugs but in 's case, it is worth dealing with the

ones he has and risking the ones he might have. In March of last year he had

an episode that the doctors felt was related to Respirdal side-effects and

they took him off of it. The behaviors returned with a vengeance and his

attention span was nil. Eight months later, our insurance changed and we

started seeing a new doctor. He felt that the episode that had in

March was probably NOT related to the Risperdal and that we should try it

again. We did and saw an improvement in behaviors and attention almost

immediately. Like I mentioned, it is not without side-effects, but in

's case we feel that the benefits outweigh the side-effects he does

have and the ones he might develop in the future.

Terry

Mom to , 14 yrs.

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Dear Terry,

Thanks for your answer. I really appreciate it. Just curious...but did you

see an increase in his self stimming, lack of attention and aggressive

behavior once he entered puberty. I believe I have definately seen this in

Gene.

Lauri

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Hi Lauri,

Yep, absolutely saw an increase in the last 18 months to 2 years. I asked

his former Neurologist if there was a relationship between puberty and the

increase in behaviors and he said, " No. " In my opinion, he was wrong! At

our last visit, the Psychiatrist who treats him now (behavior meds) told me

that puberty definitely has a role in increasing the behaviors. His opinion

is that as the kids get older, they get more frustrated at their lack of

ability in certain situations and that plays out in behaviors. I don't know

if I buy all that, but I certainly wouldn't rule it out entirely. Whatever

the reason, practically as soon as started to get pubic hair, we

started to see an increase in his SIB and aggression.

Terry

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a,

Thanks very much for your reply. I have been thinking about Ritalin...this

is one med I am certain the pediatrician could prescibe herself ( among

others in this category) without sending us to a psychiatrist. How old is

?

Lauri

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Hi Leah,

Thanks for answering. I have been hearing really good things about Seraquel.

I read your post about your son, Cameron. That is tough. I hope everything

works out well for him.

Lauri

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Lauri,

It occurs to me that along with puberty also comes an increase in size and

strength, albeit subtle. I think we don't realize how much bigger/stronger

they have become because we spend so much time with them. Then the behaviors

that they had at 9/10 are magnified at 12/13 due to size and strength. Does

that make sense?

Terry

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Terry,

Makes ALOT of sense to me. At 9 or 10 overall, Gene was just a much happier

kid than he is now that he is fully into puberty. He just seems like he

wants to crash into things more and his NOs !!! are alot louder.

Lauri

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lauri,

i will say seroquel overall has been a lifesaver to me in regards to ashton.

i actually have regained some sanity.....:-)

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>

>Subject: Another med question

>Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 16:43:17 EST

>

>

>Dear everyone,

>

>I am seriously looking into a medication for my son, Gene, who is 12,

>almost

>13. To me, his biggest difficulty is " focusing " on work at school or home.

>I see this as a real sensory issue with his shaking things, shaking his

>head,

>etc. Have those of you who have had your children on medication found that

>the SSRI group helped improve their focus and ability to stay on track?

>or.....has something else worked better. We will be going to the Dr. on

>Fri,

>but she is his general pediatrician. I am just trying to get some ideas

>together. Thanks.

>

>Lauri in MI

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Well nathan takes ritalin 3x's dly and the school can tell a huge difference

within about 20min after taking the med, and we can too, he is mauch calmer

not hyping out as we say, and gets more work done, but there are many drugs

similair to this they may try too, like clonidine or adderal or imipramine

etc. it will be a trial and error thing at first but you may get lucky eith

the first med you try. will prya that things go well what ever you decide to

do. shawna.

Another med question

>

> Dear everyone,

>

> I am seriously looking into a medication for my son, Gene, who is 12,

almost

> 13. To me, his biggest difficulty is " focusing " on work at school or

home.

> I see this as a real sensory issue with his shaking things, shaking his

head,

> etc. Have those of you who have had your children on medication found

that

> the SSRI group helped improve their focus and ability to stay on track?

> or.....has something else worked better. We will be going to the Dr. on

Fri,

> but she is his general pediatrician. I am just trying to get some ideas

> together. Thanks.

>

> Lauri in MI

>

>

>

>

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hey did you know soon they will be coming out with a new drug like

resperdone (nathan took with bad side effects for aggressive and SIB too)

but its not suppose to have the side effects as respersone does. Ive heard

this a couple different times from the psychologists and psychiritrists too.

soo maaayyybeee, we'll see i guess, but is rather interesting huh. shawna.

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> Lauri,

> Over the years, we have tried a variety of meds for , including the

> SSRIs, Prozac and Zoloft. Neither one helped . In fact, they

> actually made his attention span worse and he started having " manic "

episodes

> where he would make really loud noises (he is non-verbal) like screaming.

> That stopped as soon as we took him off the medication. We also tried

> Catapres (Clonidine) which was supposed to stop all the stimming so that

his

> attention span would improve. Although it did calm him down, it also

sedated

> him and didn't do much for his attention span overall. Of all the

> medications we have tried, Risperdal (Risperidone) has been the most

> beneficial for . We actually started using it for behavior control

> (self-injurious and aggressive behaviors). In addition to having a

> remarkable effect on those behaviors, his attention span has increased

> considerably. There are side-effects and potential side-effects with any

of

> the psychotropic drugs but in 's case, it is worth dealing with the

> ones he has and risking the ones he might have. In March of last year he

had

> an episode that the doctors felt was related to Respirdal side-effects and

> they took him off of it. The behaviors returned with a vengeance and his

> attention span was nil. Eight months later, our insurance changed and we

> started seeing a new doctor. He felt that the episode that had in

> March was probably NOT related to the Risperdal and that we should try it

> again. We did and saw an improvement in behaviors and attention almost

> immediately. Like I mentioned, it is not without side-effects, but in

> 's case we feel that the benefits outweigh the side-effects he does

> have and the ones he might develop in the future.

> Terry

> Mom to , 14 yrs.

>

>

>

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is 9yrs now,and has been taking ritalin successfully since around 3-4

years, a word of warning, at times he tends to get moody, this can be called

a coming off effect, but it doesnt happen all the time, and lately the luvox

hs been helping his mood stay in a happy one, tantrums are much less but

continues to obsess etc. . The main thing i like about ritalin ohter than it

works for nathan is that its short lived, only stays in the body aobut 3-4

hours and then its gone, no building up or slow reduction as with soo many

of the psychotropic meds our kids try. During the summer we only use it as a

prn med since he soesnt really need to sit still and focus when swimming and

sunning and playing, and this seems to work for nathan and for us. The med

is a narcotic and you can only get one month's supply at a time and many say

its highly addictive but the doctors say when it comes to hyperactivity

thats not even a factor, because it slows everything down doesnt give them a

" high " as it would me or you. So its reletively safe, and there is a close

reletive of ritalin called adderall (sp?) that isnt suppose to have the side

effects of ritalin but do similar things. We have never tried it because the

ritalin works so well for nathan and many other meds have not. But, we have

friends who use it when the ritalin failed and are equally happy with the

results. shawna.

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> a,

>

> Thanks very much for your reply. I have been thinking about

Ritalin...this

> is one med I am certain the pediatrician could prescibe herself ( among

> others in this category) without sending us to a psychiatrist. How old

is

> ?

>

> Lauri

>

>

>

>

>

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