Guest guest Posted March 30, 2007 Report Share Posted March 30, 2007 Hi , I am new here !! and just what to add something !!! it is not just the mercury in the shots, that damage the kids, it is the viruses it self that can cause a big problems .A looot of our children live every day w/t measles ,mumps,Rubeola in their little bodies that can hold on to the environmental mercury ,lead ....etc.And we wouldn't know it,unless we spend a bunch a money to do special tests !! Shots are just a way ,Big Pharma to create costumers from the moment they are born !! Some may say ,shots help to prevent Global epidemics ,ha ha ha ha ha !! The epidemics are preventable without shots .We prevent them just been more informed,the hygiene of the new century is just sooo much better ,That is just just one way to prevent Epidemics !! Yes ,some kids may never take shots and still regress,What about all the shots that their mothers had ,what about all this mercury filings that the mothers have .We breath the mercury ,we drink it ,we eat it .That is how kids that don't have shots are still regress.Just some individuals are more susceptible than others ,genetically . But how can a person that is ready to have a baby to know that it could happens to Anybody ! It happened to may child (and no body from bough sides of the family never had problems w/t development ,EVER ) The truth is that the SHOTS have to GO !!!They only creates evil !! Sorry for been long! Nora Kim <delicateflower_kk@...> wrote: I just joined this group and was thinking aboutmy situation in regards to vaccines. I have twochildren on the spectrum. Both developednormally and then regressed about 12-18 mos.The difference between them is that one wasimmunized and the other hasn't had any shots.This is not to say that I don't think the mercuryin vaccines is poison. I do. It's just clearfrom my personal experience that there might bemore going on than problems caused by vaccines.Kim --- <reneereprogfx> wrote:> ,> neither here nor there.. but the million dollar> question... were they > (all 5 kids) all immunized?> > > > >> > > > I can provide evidence that those who> have researched this > issue > > at great lengths do not > > > know of a single child who has regressed> into autism after normal > > development other than > > > through vaccine challenge.> > > > > > Henry,> > > > > > That jerk over at "Not Mercury" blog claims> to have a second son > > who regressed into > > > autism without vaccination. > > > > > >>http://notmercury.blogspot.com/2006_02_01_archive.html> > > See "I Was Wrong"> > > > > > My son had "classic" autism - but that> isn't to say he wasn't > > injured early. HepB on day one > > > or the 6 he got at 2 months could have done> it. I'll never know > > for sure. I just know that > > > looking back at video - I can see signs as> early as 3 months old. > > And before that he had > > > extreme colic.> > > > > > My second son was not vaccinated at all. He> is 10 months - and > > perfectly NT. So different > > > than his brother. An amazingly different> experience for us! I get > > nervous when I hear > > > about regressive autism...but I feel like> we are safe. I feel > like > > he would have presented the > > > same as his brother if it were going to> happen "genetically". > > > > > > I would be interested to know in families> where there is more > than > > one autistic child - if all > > > were regressive or a mix of regressive and> classic. I've never > > seen that discussed before.> > > > > > Sara> > >> >> > > __________________________________________________________Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by "Green Rating" at Autos' Green Center.http://autos./green_center/Nora Bunis -Stuart 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time with the Search movie showtime shortcut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2007 Report Share Posted March 30, 2007 I have the situation you were asking about. 1 child with Aspergers who received all of his vaccines. He developed normally until about 15 months or so, then stopped developing language, etc. The DSM was different then (1985). By today's criteria he had classic autism. I now have a 2 1/2 year old that received no vaccines who developed normally until about 15 mos, then stopped developing language, etc. He fits the criteria for classic autism. I feel pretty confident that my second child was not vaxed without my consent, because I went over the hospital forms and crossed the consent for vax out and wrote in if he was vaxed I would press assault and battery charges. I was VERY adamant about him not being vaxed, or getting those stupid eye drops, since I've never had gonerrehea, but that's another story. The only commonality I can think of is me as their mother and that I received Demerol during both of their labors. My sons have different fathers. --- foxhairdo38 <wendtworth68@...> wrote: > Hospitals have been known to vaccinate the Hep > B shot without the > parents consent, so how do these people even > know for sure that their > child was never vaccinated? > > > > > > > > > I can provide evidence that those who have > researched this issue > at great lengths do not > > know of a single child who has regressed into > autism after normal > development other than > > through vaccine challenge. > > > > Henry, > > > > That jerk over at " Not Mercury " blog claims > to have a second son > who regressed into > > autism without vaccination. > > > > > http://notmercury.blogspot.com/2006_02_01_archive.html > > See " I Was Wrong " > > > > My son had " classic " autism - but that isn't > to say he wasn't > injured early. HepB on day one > > or the 6 he got at 2 months could have done > it. I'll never know for > sure. I just know that > > looking back at video - I can see signs as > early as 3 months old. > And before that he had > > extreme colic. > > > > My second son was not vaccinated at all. He > is 10 months - and > perfectly NT. So different > > than his brother. An amazingly different > experience for us! I get > nervous when I hear > > about regressive autism...but I feel like we > are safe. I feel like > he would have presented the > > same as his brother if it were going to > happen " genetically " . > > > > I would be interested to know in families > where there is more than > one autistic child - if all > > were regressive or a mix of regressive and > classic. I've never seen > that discussed before. > > > > Sara > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains. http://farechase./promo-generic-14795097 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2007 Report Share Posted March 31, 2007 Hya Kim! I too am in WV and face the same challenge with my 3 year old! Are you up for fighting the state of WV to give us our religious rights back that we are entitled to?? Let me know and maybe we can fight it together!!! HUGS! Tammy Mommy of 11 Re: [sPAM?] Re: katie wright I know what you're saying. Believe me, if Icould take back every can of tuna I ate whilepregnant, I would. Dummy me, I knew about therisks of thermirisol, which is why I haven'tvaxed the baby, but didn't think about themercury in the fish. I live in the country in West Virginia. Noplants or factories nearby, but who knows. I dohave alot of fillings. Really, I didn't come on here to challenge thefact that mercury is dangerous and has nobusiness being injected into our innocentchildren. I believe that whole-heartedly. If I didn't, I would have vaxed my son and savedmyself the time I spent trying to convince myhusband we should vax (he understands now). Iwould have done it and saved myself the headacheI see peering right over the horizon at me. Our state is one of only 2 in the nation thatwon't allow a parent not to vax forphilisophical/religious reasons. Once ages out of Birth to Three next December, I caneither vax him (not going to happen), fake hisimmunization record and hope I don't get caught,because if I do, I could face charges not onlyfor faking the record, but also for "endangering"my child, or I can keep him home and try to getservices without him being in the school system. My family lives on a limited income, so payingfor these services will just not be possible, norcan I afford a lawyer to sue the school systemfor services.Sorry to be so long winded. I just want to makeit clear that I'm against vaccines because I knowthey're dangerous. I'm so against them, I'mwilling to possibly go to prison to keep my childfrom getting them.Kim--- Webster <jwebs94gmail> wrote:> Kim, where do you live? There is more mercury> pollution in the air in> certain places (east texas, central PA... Ohio,> etc...) and god what ever> you do dont eat the fish in these places!> That could play a part. If you are living> close to a plant that is spewing> mercury into the air that could be a huge> factor... check it out at> scorecard.org and you can check it out.> > > On 3/29/07, Kim <delicateflower_kk >> wrote:> >> > I have the situation you were asking about.> 1> > child with Aspergers who received all of his> > vaccines. He developed normally until about> 15> > months or so, then stopped developing> language,> > etc. The DSM was different then (1985). By> > today's criteria he had classic autism.> >> > I now have a 2 1/2 year old that received no> > vaccines who developed normally until about> 15> > mos, then stopped developing language, etc.> He> > fits the criteria for classic autism.> >> > I feel pretty confident that my second child> was> > not vaxed without my consent, because I went> over> > the hospital forms and crossed the consent> for> > vax out and wrote in if he was vaxed I would> > press assault and battery charges. I was VERY> > adamant about him not being vaxed, or getting> > those stupid eye drops, since I've never had> > gonerrehea, but that's another story.> >> > The only commonality I can think of is me as> > their mother and that I received Demerol> during> > both of their labors.> >> > My sons have different fathers.> > --- foxhairdo38 <wendtworth68aol> <wendtworth68%40aol.com>> wrote:> >> > > Hospitals have been known to vaccinate the> Hep> > > B shot without the> > > parents consent, so how do these people> even> > > know for sure that their> > > child was never vaccinated?> > >> > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > I can provide evidence that those who> have> > > researched this issue> > > at great lengths do not> > > > know of a single child who has regressed> into> > > autism after normal> > > development other than> > > > through vaccine challenge.> > > >> > > > Henry,> > > >> > > > That jerk over at "Not Mercury" blog> claims> > > to have a second son> > > who regressed into> > > > autism without vaccination.> > > >> > > >> > >> >>http://notmercury.blogspot.com/2006_02_01_archive.html> > > > See "I Was Wrong"> > > >> > > > My son had "classic" autism - but that> isn't> > > to say he wasn't> > > injured early. HepB on day one> > > > or the 6 he got at 2 months could have> done> > > it. I'll never know for> > > sure. I just know that> > > > looking back at video - I can see signs> as> > > early as 3 months old.> > > And before that he had> > > > extreme colic.> > > >> > > > My second son was not vaccinated at all.> He> > > is 10 months - and> > > perfectly NT. So different> > > > than his brother. An amazingly different> > > experience for us! I get> > > nervous when I hear> > > > about regressive autism...but I feel like> we> > > are safe. I feel like> > > he would have presented the> > > > same as his brother if it were going to> > > happen "genetically".> > > >> > > > I would be interested to know in families> > > where there is more than> > > one autistic child - if all> > > > were regressive or a mix of regressive> and> > > classic. I've never seen> > > that discussed before.> > > >> > > > Sara> > > >> > >> > >> > >> >> >>__________________________________________________________> > Finding fabulous fares is fun.> > Let FareChase search your favorite> travel sites to find flight and> > hotel bargains.> >>http://farechase./promo-generic-14795097> >> > > >> > > > -- > M. Webster> 814-644-3564> Autism IS Treatable> http://www.generationrescue.org> http://www.putchildrenfirst.org> > Be ashamed to die until you have won some> victory for humanity.> --Horace Mann> __________________________________________________________Get your own web address. Have a HUGE year through Small Business.http://smallbusiness./domains/?p=BESTDEAL No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.22/739 - Release Date: 3/29/2007 1:36 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2007 Report Share Posted March 31, 2007 I would love to do just this!!! Any ideas one where to start??? HUGS! Tammy Mommy of 11 [sPAM?] Re: katie wright I am not a lawyer but I have a hard time thinking that West Virginia'sno exception policy could withstand judicial scrutiny. TheConstitutional underpinning for mandatory vaccination is a century oldand concerned small pox, a deadly and highly communicable disease, notsexually transmitted diseases like hepatitis b or diseases where thereis no evidence that the disease is worse than the vaccine like chickenpox. I think it may be an appropriate time for we as a community to startchallenging in court mandatory vaccination laws. I think this issomething that a growing number of health rights groups would support. You might want to start thinking about whether you would want to filesuch a suit. And we need to think about how we could support suchj asuit materially and politically.> > > > >> > > > > > I can provide evidence that those who> > have> > > > researched this issue> > > > at great lengths do not> > > > > know of a single child who has regressed> > into> > > > autism after normal> > > > development other than> > > > > through vaccine challenge.> > > > >> > > > > Henry,> > > > >> > > > > That jerk over at "Not Mercury" blog> > claims> > > > to have a second son> > > > who regressed into> > > > > autism without vaccination.> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> http://notmercury.blogspot.com/2006_02_01_archive.html> > > > > See "I Was Wrong"> > > > >> > > > > My son had "classic" autism - but that> > isn't> > > > to say he wasn't> > > > injured early. HepB on day one> > > > > or the 6 he got at 2 months could have> > done> > > > it. I'll never know for> > > > sure. I just know that> > > > > looking back at video - I can see signs> > as> > > > early as 3 months old.> > > > And before that he had> > > > > extreme colic.> > > > >> > > > > My second son was not vaccinated at all.> > He> > > > is 10 months - and> > > > perfectly NT. So different> > > > > than his brother. An amazingly different> > > > experience for us! I get> > > > nervous when I hear> > > > > about regressive autism...but I feel like> > we> > > > are safe. I feel like> > > > he would have presented the> > > > > same as his brother if it were going to> > > > happen "genetically".> > > > >> > > > > I would be interested to know in families> > > > where there is more than> > > > one autistic child - if all> > > > > were regressive or a mix of regressive> > and> > > > classic. I've never seen> > > > that discussed before.> > > > >> > > > > Sara> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> >> __________________________________________________________> > > Finding fabulous fares is fun.> > > Let FareChase search your favorite> > travel sites to find flight and> > > hotel bargains.> > >> >> http://farechase./promo-generic-14795097> > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > -- > > M. Webster> > 814-644-3564> > Autism IS Treatable> > http://www.generationrescue.org> > http://www.putchildrenfirst.org> > > > Be ashamed to die until you have won some> > victory for humanity.> > --Horace Mann> > > > > > >__________________________________________________________> Get your own web address. > Have a HUGE year through Small Business.> http://smallbusiness./domains/?p=BESTDEAL> No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.22/739 - Release Date: 3/29/2007 1:36 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2007 Report Share Posted March 31, 2007 There is aluminum in vaccines and it has been proven to cause neurological damage. HUGS! Tammy Mommy of 11 Re: [sPAM?] Re: katie wright You have to consider your mercury load also while you were pregnant, too. Did you have fillings? did you eat tuna? Did your child get antibiotics? I don't think it is just the shots in all cases. My son's shots were "mercury free" yet he regressed. I just don't see how a healthy child (my son was 9 lbs. at birth) that develops normally for 18 months suddenly regresses into this world called autism. There has to be something that triggers it! Be a PS3 game guru.Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Games. No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.22/739 - Release Date: 3/29/2007 1:36 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2007 Report Share Posted March 31, 2007 All of my kids (and I as well) have HIGH aluminum. It seems to be posing more of a problem than mercury... at this point, anyway. > > There is aluminum in vaccines and it has been proven to cause neurological damage. > > > HUGS! > Tammy > Mommy of 11 > > > Re: [sPAM?] Re: katie wright > > > You have to consider your mercury load also while you were pregnant, too. Did you have fillings? did you eat tuna? Did your child get antibiotics? I don't think it is just the shots in all cases. My son's shots were " mercury free " yet he regressed. I just don't see how a healthy child (my son was 9 lbs. at birth) that develops normally for 18 months suddenly regresses into this world called autism. There has to be something that triggers it! > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------- > Be a PS3 game guru. > Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Games. > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------- > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.22/739 - Release Date: 3/29/2007 1:36 PM > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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