Were old vaccines sent to Africa??? ...ROBERT K.

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I was told you may know the answer to this...What happened to old lots

of vaccines? What does Africa have?

Thanks,

Marisha

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I am not saying it differs from the US-I am only commenting on what the movie is about.H <stratpat@...> wrote:  And you're saying this differs from the United States because..... Oh, of course, now I know: They force vaccinations on uninformed people for experimental purposes. Huh? Re: Re: Were old vaccines sent to Africa??? ...ROBERT K. In that movie, it's actually more

than that. It's forced vaccines on an uninformed population for experimental purposes. King <medfordkings1 > wrote: Please don't get angry with this reference, because it is a sensationalized, somewhat formulaic Hollywood movie. " The Constant Gardener" touches on the issue of bad, expired lots being widely distributed throughout Africa. Of course they don't mention thimerosal, but I think it is a given with those vaccines.> > > I was told you may know the answer to this...What happened to old lots> > of vaccines? What does Africa have?> >> > Thanks,> > Marisha> >> > > J. Krakow> Attorney At Law> 2001 Marcus Avenue, Suite N125> Lake Success, New York 11042> (516) 354-3300> (646) 349-1771 (fax)> (212) 227-0600 (NYC telephone)> No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with for Mobile. Get started.

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Thanks Bob...Will you be at A1 this year?

Marisha

>

> Hi Marisha,

>

> I have a partial answer †"

>

> The most recent reference I have for this was a comment made by

Mike

> Papantonio's partner on RFK's show, Ring of FIre. I can dig out

the

> name of the lawyer who made the statement about thimerosal-

containing

> vaccines being dumped in the developing world, almost certainly

> including Africa. The entire segment was on dumping old drug

products

> on the developing world. I do not know if he meant " old lots " or

> simply that the 25 microgram versions of vaccines re being pushed

on

> developing nations. We also know that WHO and GAVI have established

> plans for vaccine production in the developing nations, and that

these

> vaccines would contain thimerosal in part because of cold-chain

> distribution problems.

>

> There is a related issue of why WHO would push for keeping

thimerosal

> in vaccines in the U.S., they actually used the words " advocacy

> campaign " in their documents. The reason is that if thimerosal is

> banned in the U.S. developing nations would reject

> thimerosal-containing vaccines as second-rate products. So we had

to

> keep thimerosal in the vaccines here (US) so that the

> thimerosal-containing vaccines would be accepted over there.

>

> We know this is a politically hot issue because the analogous thing

> happened with the first Rotavirus vaccine that was taken off the

> market. Developing nations, where the vaccine might have better

> justification because rotavirus does kill some infants, refused the

> vaccine once it was banned here. Public officials in the

developing

> world are rightly sensitive to dual and inconsistent vaccine

policies.

>

> Lujene and I made a fuller presentation on this issue at last

> year's Autism One conference. Lujene is extremely knowledgable on

these

> issues.

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Big Boob!H <stratpat@...> wrote: I know. I'm just being a smartass. My sincerest apologies for call you a ..... Feel free to fill in the blank! Re: Re: Were old vaccines sent to Africa??? ...ROBERT K. In that movie, it's actually more than that. It's forced vaccines on an uninformed population for experimental purposes. King <medfordkings1 > wrote: Please don't get angry with this reference, because it is a sensationalized, somewhat formulaic Hollywood movie. " The Constant Gardener"

touches on the issue of bad, expired lots being widely distributed throughout Africa. Of course they don't mention thimerosal, but I think it is a given with those vaccines.> > > I was told you may know the answer to this...What happened to old lots> > of vaccines? What does Africa have?> >> > Thanks,> > Marisha> >> > > J. Krakow> Attorney At Law> 2001 Marcus Avenue, Suite N125> Lake Success, New York 11042> (516) 354-3300> (646) 349-1771 (fax)> (212) 227-0600 (NYC telephone)> No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with for Mobile. Get started. Never miss an email again! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. Check it out.

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Yes. See you there.

On Apr 10, 2007, at 5:06 PM, Marisha wrote:

> Thanks Bob...Will you be at A1 this year?

>

> Marisha

>

>

> >

> > Hi Marisha,

> >

> > I have a partial answer †"

> >

> > The most recent reference I have for this was a comment made by

> Mike

> > Papantonio's partner on RFK's show, Ring of FIre. I can dig out

> the

> > name of the lawyer who made the statement about thimerosal-

> containing

> > vaccines being dumped in the developing world, almost certainly

> > including Africa. The entire segment was on dumping old drug

> products

> > on the developing world. I do not know if he meant " old lots " or

> > simply that the 25 microgram versions of vaccines re being pushed

> on

> > developing nations. We also know that WHO and GAVI have established

> > plans for vaccine production in the developing nations, and that

> these

> > vaccines would contain thimerosal in part because of cold-chain

> > distribution problems.

> >

> > There is a related issue of why WHO would push for keeping

> thimerosal

> > in vaccines in the U.S., they actually used the words " advocacy

> > campaign " in their documents. The reason is that if thimerosal is

> > banned in the U.S. developing nations would reject

> > thimerosal-containing vaccines as second-rate products. So we had

> to

> > keep thimerosal in the vaccines here (US) so that the

> > thimerosal-containing vaccines would be accepted over there.

> >

> > We know this is a politically hot issue because the analogous thing

> > happened with the first Rotavirus vaccine that was taken off the

> > market. Developing nations, where the vaccine might have better

> > justification because rotavirus does kill some infants, refused the

> > vaccine once it was banned here. Public officials in the

> developing

> > world are rightly sensitive to dual and inconsistent vaccine

> policies.

> >

> > Lujene and I made a fuller presentation on this issue at last

> > year's Autism One conference. Lujene is extremely knowledgable on

> these

> > issues.

>

>

J. Krakow

Attorney At Law

2001 Marcus Avenue, Suite N125

Lake Success, New York 11042

(516) 354-3300

(646) 349-1771 (fax)

(212) 227-0600 (NYC telephone)

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Now isn't "big boobs" sexist?

I should just make a tape and hit replay...

My sincerest apologies for calling you Big Boobs!

Unless, of course, you like that name.

In which case, that would be ok.

At the end of the day, I can't keep any of this straight!

Re: Re: Were old vaccines sent to Africa??? ...ROBERT K.

In that movie, it's actually more than that. It's forced vaccines on an uninformed population

for experimental purposes. King <medfordkings1 > wrote:

Please don't get angry with this reference, because it is a sensationalized, somewhat formulaic Hollywood movie. " The Constant Gardener" touches on the issue of bad, expired lots being widely distributed throughout Africa. Of course they don't mention thimerosal, but I think it is a given with those vaccines.> > > I was told you may know the answer to this...What happened to old lots> > of vaccines? What does Africa have?> >> > Thanks,> > Marisha> >> > > J. Krakow> Attorney At Law> 2001 Marcus Avenue, Suite N125> Lake Success, New York 11042> (516) 354-3300> (646) 349-1771 (fax)> (212) 227-0600 (NYC telephone)>

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Now we'll see the rate of Autism in Africa climb sky high and they'll STILL deny that thimerisol had anything to do with it. Does anyone have a pulse on the AS numbers where this "old vaccine" may have been sent? Why not destroy it? Because it would cost pharma 33 cents? Rather destroy the life of a child than waste 33 cents? Oh please... King <medfordkings1@...> wrote: Good point.> > > > > I was told you may know the answer to this...What happened to old lots> > > of vaccines? What does Africa have?> > >> > > Thanks,> > > Marisha> > >> >

> > > J. Krakow> > Attorney At Law> > 2001 Marcus Avenue, Suite N125> > Lake Success, New York 11042> > (516) 354-3300> > (646) 349-1771 (fax)> > (212) 227-0600 (NYC telephone)> >> > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------> No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go > with for Mobile. Get started.>

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definitely sexist, but I thought it kind of went with all the Rutgers stuff and seemed appropriate or rather inappropriate. (and I am losing it anyway after 4 days being stuffed in my apartment with my chicken poxed grandson)H <stratpat@...> wrote: Now isn't "big boobs" sexist? I should just make a tape and hit replay... My sincerest apologies for calling you Big Boobs! Unless, of course, you like that name. In which case, that would be ok. At the end of the day, I can't keep any of this straight! Re: Re: Were old vaccines sent to Africa??? ...ROBERT K. In that movie, it's actually more than that. It's forced vaccines on an uninformed population for experimental purposes. King <medfordkings1 > wrote: Please don't get angry with this

reference, because it is a sensationalized, somewhat formulaic Hollywood movie. " The Constant Gardener" touches on the issue of bad, expired lots being widely distributed throughout Africa. Of course they don't mention thimerosal, but I think it is a given with those vaccines.> > > I was told you may know the answer to this...What happened to old lots> > of vaccines? What does Africa have?> >> > Thanks,> > Marisha> >> > > J. Krakow> Attorney At Law> 2001 Marcus Avenue, Suite N125> Lake Success, New York 11042> (516)

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