Re: Lee Grossman (homes in Hawaii)

[Guest guest]

Hmmm. Well he lives in Hawaii and did so before his involvement with

ASA.

I don't have an opinion on it. b/c I don't know how many houses nor

have I seen the ASA books, or his salary.

I used to defend ASA –but I am starting to get miffed. Actually I

just got another one of those emails asking me for my donation gift…

honesty, do they think we families of autistic kids have any money? I

am over drawn for the month already, and it's the 4th. Give me a

break.

ASA in my mind has become this useless group. There website seems to

gloss over the unimportant issues and not even bother on the

important ones. They should tell parents to immediately seek out a

DAN! Doc and to start the GF/CF diet and ABA with a diagnosis, these

things takes a while, maybe in the end a parent will decided that is

not the way to go (foolishly) but at least the ball gets rolling.

When I think of ASA these days I see it as a place parents start for

info, there is some basic stuff, but they are on the wrong path, and

leading parents down the wrong path. Also on the important issues, I

picture a person trying to pick a serious wedge out of there butt

caused by the fences they are sitting on.

They need to pick a cause instead of what ever the hell it is they

are doing. But that is the last you will hear be compain about it,

b/c truth is ASA could be changed by us if we don't like its

direction. Nothing good comes easy.

W.

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> I think I read somewhere that Lee Grossman has several homes in

Hawaii

> can anyone confirm this? I am very suspicious of many nonprofits as

I

> was approached by somemone to start a non-profit and give 1% of the

> money to the actual cause and keep the rest and was told this is

legal

> and the cause will go along with it because 1% of something is

better

> than 100% of nothing.I declined this businesss opportunity.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Lee Grossman is scheduled to speak at the

upcoming DAN! Conference.

Pamela

" Courage is doing

what you're afraid to do. There can be no courage unless you're scared. "

Eddie Rickenbacker,

top US

fighter ace, WWI

From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of F

Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007

3:28 PM

EOHarm

Subject: Lee Grossman (homes in Hawaii)

I think I read somewhere

that Lee Grossman has several homes

in Hawaii

can anyone confirm this? I am very suspicious of many nonprofits as I

was approached by somemone to start

a non-profit and give 1% of the

money to the actual cause and keep the rest and was told this is legal

and the cause will go along with it because 1% of something

is better

than 100% of nothing.I declined this businesss opportunity.

[Guest guest]

If you attend the DAN! Conference, I urge you to hear Lee Grossman

speak. He spoke last year at Autism One, and I attended. There were

approximately 15 people who attended his presentation -- I was

so000000000 disappointed in the attendance. He spoke from the heart;

some of his comments touched me deeply. He is one person who knows what

we live with day in and day out, who sees the struggles of siblings of

children with autism in addition to what our children with autism deal

with, and he is committed to creating change for all of our children,

even if it has to come in baby steps.

Penny

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> Lee Grossman is scheduled to speak at the upcoming DAN! Conference.

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> Pamela

[Guest guest]

I would say there was a reason only 15 people showed- Could have

something to do with the general discontentment people have with ASA.

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> > Lee Grossman is scheduled to speak at the upcoming DAN!

Conference.

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> > Pamela

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[Guest guest]

Penny, my love: Baby steps? Just how long has ASA been around? Try

1965. Longer than some of the parents on this list have been alive I

assume. The attendance matched the interest of the DAN! community

with what ASA has to offer in the way of genuine hands on help.

Maybe this year he'll get 12 people. And the message. OK, I need to

go kick a cat or something now. Maybe a cocktail.

KS

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> > Lee Grossman is scheduled to speak at the upcoming DAN!

Conference.

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> > Pamela

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[Guest guest]

I am in no way defending ASA for past transgressions of only being an "advocate" agency.I do want to defend them for their current position on Environmental Toxins. Because many of you are NOT members any longer, you would not have received their recent Advocate magazine which is dedicated soley to ETs (including thimersol) and biomedical treatments. I asked for 50 of these magazines so that I could strategically place them in schools SE depts., doctor's offices and send them to parents who just don't get what autism is. ASA sent me two cases of magazines. My thinking is that, ASA is the oldest (Bernie Rimland founded) autism organization who enjoys more respect (even now) than AS,CAN, NAAR, etc. When teachers and doctors see who published this information, it is given credence. I for one, am using these people to my advantage because now that they have taken a position on the environmental stuff, my legislators take notice

and some of you might want to do same.Since I have met all but two board members in the past year, I am totally convinced that I would rather bring them to my side than CAN. They have shifted the paradigm by getting new district board people elected who "get it." It is not as fast as I would have hoped but I have talked to these people to find out what they are about. Just remember, these people also have the current adult autism population that they must figure in to their lobbying, etc. Did you know they pay a bunch of lobbyists to get your kids what they need in schools with those funds? $40 a year for membership is a pittance for that service alone. From what I have hear, they have to pay those lobbyists a ton.I think if more people on this group would do some writing of approval/disapproval, ASA would see that they have interest from someone other than those current adults with autism.Hey - it takes

alot to impress me -- but that issue of ASA Advocate blew me away.Rox Webster <jenny@...> wrote: Hmmm. Well he lives in Hawaii and did so before his involvement with ASA. I don't have an opinion on it. b/c I don't know how many houses nor have I seen the ASA books, or his salary. I used to defend ASA –but I am starting to get miffed. Actually I just got another one of those emails asking me for my donation gift… honesty, do they think we families of autistic kids

have any money? I am over drawn for the month already, and it's the 4th. Give me a break. ASA in my mind has become this useless group. There website seems to gloss over the unimportant issues and not even bother on the important ones. They should tell parents to immediately seek out a DAN! Doc and to start the GF/CF diet and ABA with a diagnosis, these things takes a while, maybe in the end a parent will decided that is not the way to go (foolishly) but at least the ball gets rolling. When I think of ASA these days I see it as a place parents start for info, there is some basic stuff, but they are on the wrong path, and leading parents down the wrong path. Also on the important issues, I picture a person trying to pick a serious wedge out of there butt caused by the fences they are sitting on. They need to pick a cause instead of what ever the hell it is they are doing. But that is

the last you will hear be compain about it, b/c truth is ASA could be changed by us if we don't like its direction. Nothing good comes easy. W. > > I think I read somewhere that Lee Grossman has several homes in Hawaii > can anyone confirm this? I am very suspicious of many nonprofits as I > was approached by somemone to start a non-profit and give 1% of the > money to the actual cause and keep the rest and was told this is legal > and the cause will go along with it because 1% of something is better > than 100% of nothing.I declined this businesss opportunity. > > >

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[Guest guest]

" Baby steps " was *my* term, not his.

He's on Capital Hill every day. He talked about that a bit. I know

others who have spent YEARS building relationships with legislators, and

that kind of change comes way too slowly (baby steps, my term). I

believe he works very hard, he is sincere, and the ASA board has a tough

job. At Autism One, he took some hard questions from the audience and

was ready to answer lots more, but almost no one showed up to voice an

opinion or ask a question.

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> Penny, my love: Baby steps? Just how long has ASA been around? Try

> 1965. Longer than some of the parents on this list have been alive I

> assume. The attendance matched the interest of the DAN! community

> with what ASA has to offer in the way of genuine hands on help.

> Maybe this year he'll get 12 people. And the message. OK, I need to

> go kick a cat or something now. Maybe a cocktail.

>

> KS

[Guest guest]

Fabulous web site and films! Is there a mailing address to send a cont. to? Nora G

Re: Lee Grossman (homes in Hawaii)

You're absolutely welcome to donate to FAIR (Foundation for Autism Information & Research, Inc.)http://www.autismmedia.org/donate.htmlNone of us are compensated as we're entirely a volunteer organization, we have very low overhead and all the money we take in goes into supporting our educational media programs or toward research projects that we believe in. (We've begun allocating some research funds early this year)FAIR accomplishes a LOT for very little. :-) NanstielFoundation for Autism Information & Research, Inc.(aka FAIR Autism Media, a 501c3 organization)http://www.autismmedia.org/--- In EOHarm , " F" <rng777@...> wrote:>> I think I read somewhere that Lee Grossman has several homes in Hawaii > can anyone confirm this? I am very suspicious of many nonprofits as I > was approached by somemone to start a non-profit and give 1% of the > money to the actual cause and keep the rest and was told this is legal > and the cause will go along with it because 1% of something is better > than 100% of nothing.I declined this businesss opportunity.> > >