Guest guest Posted April 1, 2007 Report Share Posted April 1, 2007 wouldn't matter. Bush can't read.schaferatsprynet <schafer@...> wrote: And how do you know they're not on this list? The golden rule stillworks pretty good, but you can get away with alot more with humor --as long as you're willing to take what you dish out.LennyEOHarm List Den Mother> > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Diane,> > This list is overtly political in nature. Political debate and> > discussion often comes with negative vibes. In this case what> > happened to our kids is pretty darn negative. Don't be flakey. Get for Mobile and always stay connected to friends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2007 Report Share Posted April 1, 2007 You never know where that excretory opening is going to show up. Lenny > > >> > > > >> > I live in Illinois, and have no idea who this Dr Yasko is, and > I can > > >> > understand where everyones comments and concerns come from. Now > > >> > having said that, I wonder if people have considered that someone > > >> > else, or the doctor herself will catch wind of all this, and there > > >> > may be legal consequenses here. Also, the site may lose > members b/c > > >> > they don't want to be in a site where negative vibes exist, > thus not > > >> > getting the information for their kids, and maybe they then will > > >> > subsequently come across some new or vital info to help everybody > > >> > elses kids. Again I don't have an opinion one way or another about > > >> > this doctor, BUT have seen these very things happen on other Autism > > >> > web groups, and I can take reading anything positive or > negative- but > > >> > others who are in a more desparate state of mind or are already > upset > > >> > and nervous may find all of this too much to handle. > > >> > > > >> > Diane > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2007 Report Share Posted April 1, 2007 I believe Bush personally reads every post himself before allowing them to be posted to the board. He promised the board at Eli Lilly hewould look after us pesky autism parents. So on days when the messages are real slow in posting old G W is having a hard time with the big words- the ones people like Lenny like to use. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Diane, > > > This list is overtly political in nature. Political debate and > > > discussion often comes with negative vibes. In this case what > > > happened to our kids is pretty darn negative. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2007 Report Share Posted April 1, 2007 I laughed out loud at that one - too funny, Maurine! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Diane, > > > This list is overtly political in nature. Political debate and > > > discussion often comes with negative vibes. In this case what > > > happened to our kids is pretty darn negative. > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Don't be flakey. Get for Mobile and > always stay connected to friends. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2007 Report Share Posted April 1, 2007 Yea, your “background” puts you in another league honey. Have you read them all? if so, can you recommend one for the person without a biochem fetish? From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of Hooker Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2007 4:08 PM EOHarm Subject: Re: OT: Dr. Yasko I liked Genetic Bypass a lot. I also think that the Nutrigenomics starter kit was good. It will give you a good feel for the genetic testing which is at the heart of the Yasko protocol. My background is biochemistry so I have a bit of a leg up. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't understand. What happened in New York? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In general, I don't understand why there can't be honest > > > > > > > communication, including criticism, of our experiences > > with > > > > > health > > > > > > > care providers. I for one ESPECIALLY want to hear about > > > > > anything > > > > > > > negative; it is by hearing only good about vaccines and > > > > > traditional > > > > > > > medicine that many us find ourselves in the mess we are > in > > > > now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I asked my DAN, one of the top ones, about Yasko, and he > > was > > > > > very > > > > > > > disappointed with her secretiveness about certain > issues, > > > > > thought > > > > > > her > > > > > > > program was extremely expensive and was not advocating > use > > > of > > > > > her > > > > > > > protocols until more information was known about her > > methods > > > > and > > > > > > > thinking. I posted this info on a board (without > > > identifying > > > > my > > > > > > DAN) > > > > > > > because this is the type of info I myself find useful in > > > > > evaluating > > > > > > > whether to proceed down a certain path. I was scolded > so > > > > > > forcefully > > > > > > > by the moderator I thought I'd be kicked off the board. > > > Why? > > > > > If > > > > > > > we're only allowed to say good things about DAN, isn't > > that > > > > > > > equivalent to only being allowed to say good things > about > > > > > > mainstream > > > > > > > medicine and physicians? Sharing negative as well as > > > positive > > > > > > > experiences doesn't invalidate or denigrate the whole > DAN > > > > > movement. > > > > > > > It enables parents with precious little time for " due > > > > diligence " > > > > > to > > > > > > > make the best choices, and actually adds credibility to > > our > > > > > voices > > > > > > in > > > > > > > that we're not seen as desperados blindly buying > anything > > > > served > > > > > up > > > > > > > by DAN or other providers in the biomed community. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2007 Report Share Posted April 1, 2007 I know offit is here --at least I have a good inkling. After an interview of his once I stated here that I caleld up a Offit that I found in the phone book ready to rip him a new one... but when a women answered and it WAS right after the interview, I realized he wouldn't be home and it might not be the right . So I hung up... well later he mentioned how someone called his house after the interview. ok so it might not have been that case, maybe someone else called, but it left me wondering. anyway, in case he is here.... Hi , I hope you fall and break a hip! soulless prick! On 4/1/07, searchingforserenity111 <searchingforserenity111@...> wrote: C'mon - you don't think Offitt is a lurking member of this board : )> >> >> >> > I live in Illinois, and have no idea who this Dr Yasko is, and I can> >> > understand where everyones comments and concerns come from. Now> >> > having said that, I wonder if people have considered that someone> >> > else, or the doctor herself will catch wind of all this, and there > >> > may be legal consequenses here. Also, the site may losemembers b/c> >> > they don't want to be in a site where negative vibes exist,thus not> >> > getting the information for their kids, and maybe they then will > >> > subsequently come across some new or vital info to help everybody> >> > elses kids. Again I don't have an opinion one way or another about> >> > this doctor, BUT have seen these very things happen on other Autism > >> > web groups, and I can take reading anything positive ornegative- but> >> > others who are in a more desparate state of mind or are alreadyupset> >> > and nervous may find all of this too much to handle. > >> > > >> > Diane> >> > > > > > > >> -- M. Webster814-644-3564 Autism IS Treatablehttp://www.generationrescue.orghttp://www.putchildrenfirst.orgBe ashamed to die until you have won some victory for humanity. --Horace Mann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2007 Report Share Posted April 1, 2007 OMG- I was trying to make a profound statement that if we can’t make personal attacks on ANYONE -then we need to know that. No bashing- Bush, Clintons, Offit, CDC, NAAR, AS, DAN, etc...... And then we get “break a hip-soulless prick” and “excretory opening”. No wonder people love to hate us. You guys crack me up. “Bush can’t read” On 4/1/07 5:05 PM, " Webster " <jwebs94@...> wrote: I know offit is here --at least I have a good inkling. After an interview of his once I stated here that I caleld up a Offit that I found in the phone book ready to rip him a new one... but when a women answered and it WAS right after the interview, I realized he wouldn't be home and it might not be the right . So I hung up... well later he mentioned how someone called his house after the interview. ok so it might not have been that case, maybe someone else called, but it left me wondering. anyway, in case he is here.... Hi , I hope you fall and break a hip! soulless prick! On 4/1/07, searchingforserenity111 <searchingforserenity111@...> wrote: C'mon - you don't think Offitt is a lurking member of this board : ) > >> > > >> > I live in Illinois, and have no idea who this Dr Yasko is, and I can > >> > understand where everyones comments and concerns come from. Now > >> > having said that, I wonder if people have considered that someone > >> > else, or the doctor herself will catch wind of all this, and there > >> > may be legal consequenses here. Also, the site may lose members b/c > >> > they don't want to be in a site where negative vibes exist, thus not > >> > getting the information for their kids, and maybe they then will > >> > subsequently come across some new or vital info to help everybody > >> > elses kids. Again I don't have an opinion one way or another about > >> > this doctor, BUT have seen these very things happen on other Autism > >> > web groups, and I can take reading anything positive or negative- but > >> > others who are in a more desparate state of mind or are already upset > >> > and nervous may find all of this too much to handle. > >> > > >> > Diane > >> > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2007 Report Share Posted April 2, 2007 I heard Soulless Prick was 's nickname at the frat house back in his college days.... > >>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>> > >> > I live in Illinois, and have no idea who this Dr Yasko is, and > >> I can > >>>>>> > >> > understand where everyones comments and concerns come from. Now > >>>>>> > >> > having said that, I wonder if people have considered that someone > >>>>>> > >> > else, or the doctor herself will catch wind of all this, and there > >>>>>> > >> > may be legal consequenses here. Also, the site may lose > >> members b/c > >>>>>> > >> > they don't want to be in a site where negative vibes exist, > >> thus not > >>>>>> > >> > getting the information for their kids, and maybe they then will > >>>>>> > >> > subsequently come across some new or vital info to help everybody > >>>>>> > >> > elses kids. Again I don't have an opinion one way or another about > >>>>>> > >> > this doctor, BUT have seen these very things happen on other > >>>>>> Autism > >>>>>> > >> > web groups, and I can take reading anything positive or > >> negative- but > >>>>>> > >> > others who are in a more desparate state of mind or are already > >> upset > >>>>>> > >> > and nervous may find all of this too much to handle. > >>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>> > >> > Diane > >>>>>> > >> > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > >> > >> > >> > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2007 Report Share Posted April 2, 2007 Lenny, Does this no rudeness or personal attacks include neurodiverse moles who infest the list? > >>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>> > >> > I live in Illinois, and have no idea who this Dr Yasko is, and > >> I can > >>>>>> > >> > understand where everyones comments and concerns come from. Now > >>>>>> > >> > having said that, I wonder if people have considered that someone > >>>>>> > >> > else, or the doctor herself will catch wind of all this, and there > >>>>>> > >> > may be legal consequenses here. Also, the site may lose > >> members b/c > >>>>>> > >> > they don't want to be in a site where negative vibes exist, > >> thus not > >>>>>> > >> > getting the information for their kids, and maybe they then will > >>>>>> > >> > subsequently come across some new or vital info to help everybody > >>>>>> > >> > elses kids. Again I don't have an opinion one way or another about > >>>>>> > >> > this doctor, BUT have seen these very things happen on other > >>>>>> Autism > >>>>>> > >> > web groups, and I can take reading anything positive or > >> negative- but > >>>>>> > >> > others who are in a more desparate state of mind or are already > >> upset > >>>>>> > >> > and nervous may find all of this too much to handle. > >>>>>> > >> > > >>>>>> > >> > Diane > >>>>>> > >> > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > >> > >> > >> > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2007 Report Share Posted April 2, 2007 you may or may not believe how much I censored myself in my note to Offit!! lol I wish I could say what I really wanted to say... but I swear to you, I am trying to be a nicer ... not a door mat, just trying to get more bees with honey... you know, instead of the napalm I usually use. hmmm maybe not nicer... more tactful. but, no seriously... I hope he breaks a hip and then ends up in a nursing home, and I hope he does NOT succumb to Alzheimer's (why would he?? I bet the prick has been special ordering thimerosal free vaccines for two decades.) yes I hope his mind stays fully sharp while his body withers away in some neglectful nursing home environment where HE HAS to wear diapers!! It's only fair. Honey... tastes sweet... But Napalm for . I wonder if he would do a boxing match for charity with me? ding ding ding... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2007 Report Share Posted April 2, 2007 Yasko is no longer taking new patients it is all done thru her website. She does comment on all of the testing thru her and you can send her some other tests you have done that may help her figure out where you are. It seems to be working fine for us and many others. Her parent discussion group is where you get the answers from many parents who know the procol very well. --- Becky Grant-Widen <bgrantwiden@...> wrote: > For those of you that use Dr. Yasko, do you all just > use the web-based > service or do you actually go and see her in person? > > > > > Just curious. I am pretty much in her backyard, she > is only 45 minutes > away from me here in Maine. I've wanted to find out > more but last I knew > the wait list was years long. My son is in good > shape, but I do wonder > if there is something we may be missing. > > > > Becky > > Our providers are human, just like us and can make > mistakes. > Fortunately, Dr. Yasko is rather candid about what > she can and can't > do and (unlike a lot of physicians) has a good grasp > on her > own " humanity " . That, in it of itself, is extremely > refreshing. > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by " Green Rating " at Autos' Green Center. http://autos./green_center/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2007 Report Share Posted April 2, 2007 > > Lenny, Does this no rudeness or personal attacks include neurodiverse > moles who infest the list? > It isn't gentlemanly to attack the unarmed. Lenny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2007 Report Share Posted April 2, 2007 Hi , I was fascinated by these too. A good friend let me borrow these for a couple of months and I learned a lot that made sense and gives you a better understanding of predisposition and toxin synergy. We have biomed gatherings whenever we can manage it and have been discussing Yasko along with DAN! protocols. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't understand. What happened in New York? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In general, I don't understand why there can't be > honest > > > > > > > > communication, including criticism, of our experiences > > > with > > > > > > health > > > > > > > > care providers. I for one ESPECIALLY want to hear > about > > > > > > anything > > > > > > > > negative; it is by hearing only good about vaccines > and > > > > > > traditional > > > > > > > > medicine that many us find ourselves in the mess we > are > > in > > > > > now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I asked my DAN, one of the top ones, about Yasko, and > he > > > was > > > > > > very > > > > > > > > disappointed with her secretiveness about certain > > issues, > > > > > > thought > > > > > > > her > > > > > > > > program was extremely expensive and was not advocating > > use > > > > of > > > > > > her > > > > > > > > protocols until more information was known about her > > > methods > > > > > and > > > > > > > > thinking. I posted this info on a board (without > > > > identifying > > > > > my > > > > > > > DAN) > > > > > > > > because this is the type of info I myself find useful > in > > > > > > evaluating > > > > > > > > whether to proceed down a certain path. I was scolded > > so > > > > > > > forcefully > > > > > > > > by the moderator I thought I'd be kicked off the > board. > > > > Why? > > > > > > If > > > > > > > > we're only allowed to say good things about DAN, isn't > > > that > > > > > > > > equivalent to only being allowed to say good things > > about > > > > > > > mainstream > > > > > > > > medicine and physicians? Sharing negative as well as > > > > positive > > > > > > > > experiences doesn't invalidate or denigrate the whole > > DAN > > > > > > movement. > > > > > > > > It enables parents with precious little time for " due > > > > > diligence " > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > make the best choices, and actually adds credibility > to > > > our > > > > > > voices > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > that we're not seen as desperados blindly buying > > anything > > > > > served > > > > > > up > > > > > > > > by DAN or other providers in the biomed community. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2007 Report Share Posted April 2, 2007 Nope - But I believe the Nutriswitch book is very good if you have the time to wade through it, especially if you get the nutrigenomics intro book as a " primer " . B > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't understand. What happened in New York? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In general, I don't understand why there can't be > honest > > > > > > > > communication, including criticism, of our experiences > > > with > > > > > > health > > > > > > > > care providers. I for one ESPECIALLY want to hear > about > > > > > > anything > > > > > > > > negative; it is by hearing only good about vaccines > and > > > > > > traditional > > > > > > > > medicine that many us find ourselves in the mess we > are > > in > > > > > now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I asked my DAN, one of the top ones, about Yasko, and > he > > > was > > > > > > very > > > > > > > > disappointed with her secretiveness about certain > > issues, > > > > > > thought > > > > > > > her > > > > > > > > program was extremely expensive and was not advocating > > use > > > > of > > > > > > her > > > > > > > > protocols until more information was known about her > > > methods > > > > > and > > > > > > > > thinking. I posted this info on a board (without > > > > identifying > > > > > my > > > > > > > DAN) > > > > > > > > because this is the type of info I myself find useful > in > > > > > > evaluating > > > > > > > > whether to proceed down a certain path. I was scolded > > so > > > > > > > forcefully > > > > > > > > by the moderator I thought I'd be kicked off the > board. > > > > Why? > > > > > > If > > > > > > > > we're only allowed to say good things about DAN, isn't > > > that > > > > > > > > equivalent to only being allowed to say good things > > about > > > > > > > mainstream > > > > > > > > medicine and physicians? Sharing negative as well as > > > > positive > > > > > > > > experiences doesn't invalidate or denigrate the whole > > DAN > > > > > > movement. > > > > > > > > It enables parents with precious little time for " due > > > > > diligence " > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > make the best choices, and actually adds credibility > to > > > our > > > > > > voices > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > that we're not seen as desperados blindly buying > > anything > > > > > served > > > > > > up > > > > > > > > by DAN or other providers in the biomed community. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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