Re: OT/Just Forget about the Autism Epidemic with the New Forget Drugs

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I want my memories. All of them, no matter how painful. How I overcome adversity

in my life

is how I measure myself as a person. Drug away the pain of memories? No thanks.

My

experience is my badge of honor and I don't regret what I've done or have had to

endure,

because I don't regret who I am.

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> Remove the bad memories, or MIND control??? What ever happened to just

> smoking a joint - not that anyone who ever did that 20 - 30 years ago

> ever inhaled.

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> Erasing the Pain of the Past

> http://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=2964509 & page=1

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> Casper (my new moniker : )

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how very " eternal sunshine of the spotless mind "

I dont know though.. some with PTSD might appreciate such a pill.

not sure where I stand on this.

On 3/20/07, Nanstiel <erik@...> wrote:

I want my memories. All of them, no matter how painful. How I overcome adversity in my life is how I measure myself as a person. Drug away the pain of memories? No thanks. My experience is my badge of honor and I don't regret what I've done or have had to endure, because I don't regret who I am.>> Remove the bad memories, or MIND control??? What ever happened to just> smoking a joint - not that anyone who ever did that 20 - 30 years ago> ever inhaled.> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Erasing the Pain of the Past > http://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=2964509 & page=1

> > Casper (my new moniker : )> -- M. Webster814-644-3564

Autism IS Treatablehttp://www.generationrescue.orghttp://www.putchildrenfirst.orgBe ashamed to die until you have won some victory for humanity. --Horace Mann

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"Lest we forget"...therein lies the danger, Aasa Webster <jwebs94@...> wrote: how very "eternal sunshine of the spotless mind" I dont know though.. some with PTSD might appreciate such a pill. not sure where I stand on this. On 3/20/07, Nanstiel <erikautismmedia (DOT) org> wrote: I want my memories. All of them, no matter how painful. How I overcome adversity in my life is how I measure myself as a person. Drug away the pain of memories? No thanks. My experience is my badge of honor and I don't regret what I've done or have had to endure, because I don't regret who I am.>> Remove the bad memories, or MIND control??? What ever happened to just> smoking a joint - not that anyone who ever did that 20 - 30 years ago> ever inhaled.> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Erasing the Pain of the Past > http://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=2964509 & page=1 > > Casper (my new moniker : )>-- M. Webster814-644-3564 Autism IS Treatablehttp://www.generationrescue.orghttp://www.putchildrenfirst.orgBe ashamed to die until you have won some victory for humanity. --Horace Mann

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makes a good point here about memories. I just read a current

NY Times article on women who suffer post truamatic stress disorder

from being both in combat and getting sexually harassed. Aside from

the typical men are inherently pigs, women inherently innocent victims

formula bias of the writer, the description of PTSD is good. As I

read it, I recognized behavior I see in alot of parents, women and

men, of families with autism. Add divorce to autism and you end up

with people who come out of it pretty beaten up, angry, anxious and

fragile enough not to be able to handle yet one more damned iota of

stress that comes along with daily life without overreacting.

Would I take a pill to eliminate such memories? No. I might consider

a pill that would soften the memories blows, if there could be such a

thing. My theory now is only to put things inside my body that make

me stronger, not weaker. Would it make me stronger to make the impact

of past debilitating traumas weaker? Just thinking out loud. I am not

as sure as .

Lenny

ps. " eternal sunshine of the spotless mind " is an excellent movie and

I usually can't stand Jim Carey.

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Wow, I see the human spirit as stronger

than that. I am in mid-divorce, have almost 10 years of autism advocacy

behind me and many more to come. I am not anxious or fragile or any of

that shit. I will be 40 in June, and I’m looking forward to a new

chapter in my life. A new business, a new place to live, new services

battles too of course, but I’m still ready to go. Maybe it’s

because I had a shitty childhood to begin with and now my coping skills are just

different, I don’t know. But it’s sad that so many would

choose to curl up and hide away from it all. I guess I’d rather

fight. Well, at least get up and dance.

Nah, you know what, I’ve met some amazing

people in this autism community. And I can’t imagine my life

without some of them. They still inspire me daily – no matter how long

they’ve been in this fight. Bernie was one of them, Dona is

another. Their kids are older than me even and they never give/gave

up. I guess autism, or any challenge that tests your metal, makes you

choose to stay and fight or duck and run. That’s a core personality

thing more than anything else, not autism itself.

Personally, I love a good fight.

Holly

From:

EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of schaferatsprynet

Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007

6:10 PM

EOHarm

Subject: Re: OT/Just

Forget about the Autism Epidemic with the New " Forget " Drugs

makes a good point here about memories. I just

read a current

NY Times article on women who suffer post truamatic stress disorder

from being both in combat and getting sexually harassed. Aside from

the typical men are inherently pigs, women inherently innocent victims

formula bias of the writer, the description of PTSD is good. As I

read it, I recognized behavior I see in alot of parents, women and

men, of families with autism. Add divorce to autism and you end up

with people who come out of it pretty beaten up, angry, anxious and

fragile enough not to be able to handle yet one more damned iota of

stress that comes along with daily life without overreacting.

Would I take a pill to eliminate such memories? No. I might consider

a pill that would soften the memories blows, if there could be such a

thing. My theory now is only to put things inside my body that make

me stronger, not weaker. Would it make me stronger to make the impact

of past debilitating traumas weaker? Just thinking out loud. I am not

as sure as .

Lenny

ps. " eternal sunshine of the spotless mind " is an excellent movie and

I usually can't stand Jim Carey.

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Holly, well put. I think we all admire your spunk. I never thought my golden years (so called) would be as a divorced person raising an autistic grandson. I imagined moving back to Europe(my ex was from Italy) and living out my retirement there with lots of travel and good Italian food. But it wasn't to be and I am in this fight for my grandson now until my last breath. I wish you the best as you move on. MaurineHolly Bortfeld <maximom@...> wrote: Wow, I see the human spirit as stronger than that. I am in mid-divorce, have almost 10 years of autism advocacy behind me and many more to come. I am not anxious or fragile or any of that shit. I will be 40 in June, and I’m looking forward to a new chapter in my life. A new business, a new place to live, new services battles too of course, but I’m still ready to go. Maybe it’s because I had a shitty childhood to begin with and now my coping skills are just different, I don’t know. But it’s sad that so many would choose to curl up and hide away from it all. I guess I’d rather fight. Well, at least get up and dance. Nah, you know what, I’ve met some amazing people in this autism community. And I can’t imagine my life without some of them. They still inspire me daily – no matter how long they’ve been in this fight. Bernie was one of them, Dona is another. Their kids are older than me even and they never give/gave up. I guess autism, or any challenge that tests your metal, makes you choose to stay and fight or duck and run. That’s a core personality thing more than anything else, not autism itself. Personally, I love a good fight. Holly From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of schaferatsprynetSent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 6:10 PMEOHarm Subject: Re: OT/Just Forget about the Autism Epidemic with the New "Forget" Drugs makes a good point here about memories. I just read a currentNY Times article on women who suffer post

truamatic stress disorderfrom being both in combat and getting sexually harassed. Aside fromthe typical men are inherently pigs, women inherently innocent victimsformula bias of the writer, the description of PTSD is good. As Iread it, I recognized behavior I see in alot of parents, women andmen, of families with autism. Add divorce to autism and you end upwith people who come out of it pretty beaten up, angry, anxious andfragile enough not to be able to handle yet one more damned iota ofstress that comes along with daily life without overreacting. Would I take a pill to eliminate such memories? No. I might considera pill that would soften the memories blows, if there could be such athing. My theory now is only to put things inside my body that makeme stronger, not weaker. Would it make me stronger to make the impactof past debilitating traumas weaker? Just thinking out loud. I am notas sure as .Lenny

ps. "eternal sunshine of the spotless mind" is an excellent movie andI usually can't stand Jim Carey.> > >>

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I think everything is a lesson in life -- both good and bad. I too

wouldn't be the person I am today without having gone through the

good and bad. It's kindof like the old adage -- wouldn't you like

to go back to high school knowing what you know today!

Diane

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Psychological stress and oxidative stress can both affect telomere length: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4054207.stm Aasakrstagliano <KRStagliano@...> wrote: A TIME magazine article a few years back posted a study where geneticists measured the telomeres of women with chronically ill children - they mentioned autism by name -- and found the these mothers telomeres (the tips of the

chromosomes) appeared ten years older than the mother's chronological age. I have a mention of that in my novel where the mother of the autistic kids says to her sister "Isn't that great? Even my chromosomes are aging at the speed of light. By the time I hit 40 I'll look 110."KS> > > > >> > >> >>