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In a message dated 11/7/00 10:28:33 AM Central Standard Time,

Imaddenmom@... writes:

<< Maureen,

is a " hair puller " too. It has been included in his behavior

management plan at school because he is constantly pulling the teacher,

aides

and other kids hair. I asked the Psychiatrist about it and he says that he

feels that it is an " obsessive-compulsive " behavior that is beyond 's

control. >>

Terry, I've been thinking about this lately too as perhaps being an

" obsessive-compulsive " behavior that is beyond 's control. She almost

seems robotic about it at times. I'm going to run this by her docs to keep

in mind with the upcoming med changes. Sounds like and have

this hair obsession in common! Thanks for your input,

Maureen

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Loriann,

I tried the same method with . When all other methods failed, I tried

pulling her hair a few times so that she would know what it felt like. I

don't think she really got the message. In fact, I worried that the mixed

message I was sending her - Mommy tells me " no " when I pull her hair, but

then she pulls mine - would confuse her. This method worked for my oldest

daughter when she was a toddler and would hit me while I changed her diaper.

I lightly slapped her arm after she hit me and that was the end of it - she

never hit me again. I truly believe she didn't know how it felt. This

method worked for , but not for . Thanks anyway,

Maureen

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In a message dated 11/7/00 10:50:19 AM Central Standard Time,

Imaddenmom@... writes:

<< He sees hair and thinks it's for pulling, I think.

:( He is just fascinated with it and doesn't seem to comprehend or care

that

he is hurting someone. >>

Exactly, Terry! This is where is at, I think.

Maureen

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Well, not everything works with all kids. That's why this list is so great for

me. Some things that other people come up with my friends with " Normal "

children would never think of. I tried to reserve actual spankings with

for when he did something that actually caused danger, not just irritated me

(like when he pulled the knitting needle out of a sweater dress with a very

complicated pattern of chains and colors because it looked like a good sword).

Sometimes you just gotta keep a sense of humor or you'd kill them (figuratively,

of course).

Loriann

Wife to Dewight

Mom to , 10 years, DS-ASD, ADHD, ODD

And , 16 months and Strong Willed

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lmao lori,

david might have messed up the figure eight sweater, but he had the

creativity to think of the knitting needle as another object a sword.....very

artistic to me....:-)

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In a message dated 11/7/00 4:06:19 PM Eastern Standard Time, JVal987@...

writes:

<< Now if the " dogooders " who actually made those phone calls walked only 5

minutes in our shoes...need I say more! >>

I remember one Sunday when Maddie was two years old, I had just given her a

bath and put her in the TV room while I went to get her clothes. I came back

to dress her and she was gone. I ran all around the house, getting everybody

running to look for her. She was outside, naked, staring at her swing!!!

AND it was 40 degrees outside...........dh had said... " Gee, I hope DHS wasn't

watching " ...LOL

Donna

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In a message dated 11/7/00 11:36:30 PM Eastern Standard Time, MRASMUS@...

writes:

<< << He sees hair and thinks it's for pulling, I think.

:( He is just fascinated with it and doesn't seem to comprehend or care

that

he is hurting someone. >>

Exactly, Terry! This is where is at, I think. >>

This is what makes it so hard, and why the pulling back won't work.

sounds like Maddie, and Terry's boy. She totally lacks that emotion thing.

She doesn't get it if you're mad, sad, or scared!! She finally has the happy

emotion down and we can tell because she smiles back at us when we smile at

her. Very appropriate!! Took years to get there though, and it's not

consistent. However, it does make me think that the rest will come. It

probably will with your guys too!!!

Donna

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In a message dated 11/7/00 11:41:41 PM Eastern Standard Time, MRASMUS@...

writes:

<<

Terry, I've been thinking about this lately too as perhaps being an

" obsessive-compulsive " behavior that is beyond 's control. She almost

seems robotic about it at times. >>

I think all our kids have a tendency towards this. It comes under

repetitive behaviors. Maddie is obsessive about soap eating right now. I

can't keep soap in the soap dishes anywhere in the house. Even when they're

empty, she wets her mouth and wipes up any residue she can. Soap and

poop!! GROSS!!! We have it a lot easier than many though, because she is

not aggressive and can be distracted.

Donna

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In a message dated 11/7/00 11:29:00 PM Eastern Standard Time,

hsmyangel@... writes:

<< Well, not everything works with all kids. That's why this list is so

great for me. Some things that other people come up with my friends with

" Normal " children would never think of. I tried to reserve actual spankings

with for when he did something that actually caused danger, not just

irritated me (like when he pulled the knitting needle out of a sweater dress

with a very complicated pattern of chains and colors because it looked like a

good sword). >>

LOLOL Loriann!!!! Smart kid there!!!

You're right though. I did try smacking Maddie's hand once. She had been

eating the dog food and we couldn't keep her out of it. So I tried giving

her hand a crack and she giggled hysterically and put her hand out for more.

What finally ending up working was that I moved the dog bowl to the other

side of the room. She fogot about it.....LOLOL

Donna

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loolo donna, i can see maddie butt naked..... ashton got into the pool

yesterday, it was like 45 degrees......she broke two chain locks, went out of

garage and climbed over fence to get into pool....... i heard this noise from

the side of the house as camerons bus pulls up, i go and look over the other

side and her little butt in her pink bathing suit is screaming " cold cold

cold " ......lmao she couldnt get out because i took the ladder out to

winterize it..... damn maybe i should have left her butt in there a little

longer to " freeze dry " her brain......lmao i know i sound like a mean mom,

but maybe if she would suffer she would stop and think...... her obcession

with cold is driving me nuts......she will let her bath water out and put in

freezing butt cold...... ikes ikes ikes, anyone want a nine year old

playmate, she is house trained adn loves table scraps

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