Guest guest Posted October 18, 2000 Report Share Posted October 18, 2000 , that is great! I have been trying to figure out how we can make movies that also teaches then maybe Trisha would learn more. She loves movies so much! I have tried using movies as rewards but that doesn't work, she will just sit and cry if we take a movie away. She doesn't seem to understand the movie is a reward, she seems to think we are just taking away something she really loves. Carol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2000 Report Share Posted October 18, 2000 hi carol,iit seems to me her teachers were working against her instead of with her!!you build on a child s strengths and go from there.if she fed herself and they stopped her and even if her signs were sloppy all they had to do was model it correctlyas you did.makes you wonder who should really be the teacher?i think i see why so many people home school. we have been lucky with my grandson s regular teacher she is great as are the aides who all sign.his pre school ex was not as good they promised signing but the turnover was unreal 3 diff teachers and 5 diff aides!!is there another school available for her?maybe you could observe some others and think about a change? good luck carole hu Csvillars@... wrote: Carole, Trisha seemed to start losing her skills the second year she was in school. Before she started school she was saying moma, up, baby, bye, she said aproximation of lay down (more like ay oown but we understood her) I know that wasn't alot of words but it was a start, we also had her eating with both fork and spoon depending on the food, after going to school they insisted on her eating with a spoon because they said they thought that was better for her , I finally insisted that they allow her to use the appropriate untensil, how was she going to learn if they didn't allow it. Their believe was that one day she might stab someone with the fork, well she never did or has, she knows what the fork is used for. I also informed them that she could just as easily poke the spoon in someones eye as she could stab them with a fork. She never showed any tendancy to do either. I sometimes wonder if they could get by with it, would they have our kids eating with their fingers but then if you wanted to really go over board they could poke with fingers too. Trisha had been eating by herself long before she started school and I kept getting reports that she couldn't feed herself, when I went down to observe her eating I found out why, everytime she picked up the spoon to eat they kept taking it away and re-arranging it in her hand, she got so frustrated, I asked them why they did that and they said it was because she wasn't holding the spoon the right way and they wanted her to hold it correctly. I told them if she was able to get food to her mouth the way she was holding it, then leave her alone, at least she was feeding herself her way and with their way, she was being fed. I also noticed her signing was regressing, again when observing the teacher, they would hand-over-hand sign with her and she would get upset and refuse to sign, at home we just sat in front of her showing her the sign and saying the word and she would attempt to sign, she also signed more at home than she did at school. I have come to the conclusion that Trisha does not do well with being expected to do something on demand. I believe that we let her do things her way so at least she is doing it and then work on correcting once she is familiar with the signs. Maybe I am wrong in this but if you keep on demanding her to do it your way she just shuts down and refuses to do it, so to me, Ifeel it's better to let her try her way and then keep showing her the correct way when you sign back and she will eventually change (which is what she has done with signing the word hurt, it took me several months to get her to sign it correctly but I didn't demand, just kept showing her and finally one day she did it correctly and has been doing so at least at home ever since) Carol eGroups Sponsor --------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2000 Report Share Posted October 18, 2000 <<. I used to get so tired of teachers and baby sitters telling me all the bad things did. >> Same here Lori! I write back and say " Surely Ted did something positive today, perhaps you could also share that " Now I get only " We worked on Ted's challenging behaviors today with minimal success " . okay? My attorney tells me not to read the daily... Gail, mom to Ted (9) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2000 Report Share Posted October 18, 2000 also gets upset when I turn off the movie. Unless it is family time in the evening (she's used to that) Right now I'm in the process of taking my video camera around our farm and making an alphabet movie of her own. I'm using familiar objects that she already knows the name of (A is for Apple, B is for boat, C is for and cat, etc..) I'm not finished yet, but since she does love to watch our home movies, I'm hoping she'll like this one as well. I've also thought about reading stories to her on video. When I get motivated enough to do it, I'll let you know if likes them or not. Re: autism eval > , > that is great! I have been trying to figure out how we can make movies that > also teaches then maybe Trisha would learn more. She loves movies so much! > I have tried using movies as rewards but that doesn't work, she will just sit > and cry if we take a movie away. She doesn't seem to understand the movie is > a reward, she seems to think we are just taking away something she really > loves. > > Carol > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2000 Report Share Posted October 18, 2000 wow!!! lori that was insightful, ive never thought of it that way, thanks!!! has never had an IQ test just developmental type tests, and they range greatly depending on the area, i remember learning how to figure out IQ something about developmental divided by age or something to that effect, and i got around 70 when nathan was a toddler, but as he gets older and the tasks get harder and take longer to learn it seems like he is getting more mentally ret. or the IQ scoures would be dropping. But i feel no matter our kids IQ or developmental scores, they know much more than they let on, and i often know nathan knows info, but he doesnt apply it, maybe he hasnt made that step yet? If a child shows autistic features, i would deffinately get the Dx too, so that way one can be sure to get the needed assistance for isolated areas, and if the school is allready appropriately or positvely doing stuff for the good, maybe increase on those services remember many only do sessions for 15-30 min anywhere 1-3 times a week, id get the most you could. I remember one year we had them focus only on communication verbal/sign and socializtion, and boy did that make a diff.shawna. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2000 Report Share Posted October 18, 2000 you go girl!!!! We all have to be one of the dreaded moms to have at the school, the ones that make thier( school faculty) lives a living h----. otherwise our kids would never learn anything, shawna. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2000 Report Share Posted October 18, 2000 way to go kristin!!! we learned that when nathan was a toddler and still use it, first -----, then ----- (something they really want or like) and boy does he work quickly! shawna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2000 Report Share Posted October 18, 2000 oh that is GREat!!!! nathan loves to watch our home videos, he actually watches them and laughs etc. gets all excited!!! i would eagerly promote this when possible. shawna. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2000 Report Share Posted October 18, 2000 In a message dated 10/18/00 12:45:17 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jk-harding@... writes: << also gets upset when I turn off the movie. Unless it is family time in the evening (she's used to that) Right now I'm in the process of taking my video camera around our farm and making an alphabet movie of her own. I'm using familiar objects that she already knows the name of (A is for Apple, B is for boat, C is for and cat, etc..) I'm not finished yet, but since she does love to watch our home movies, I'm hoping she'll like this one as well. I've also thought about reading stories to her on video. When I get motivated enough to do it, I'll let you know if likes them or not. >> Cool idea ! I make videos of me doing Seth's finger songs that he loves hoping that he will try and do it too. Like wheels on the bus and itsy bitsy spider. Gail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2000 Report Share Posted October 18, 2000 well happy birthday, enjoy those brownies, they are one of my favs too. shawna. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2000 Report Share Posted October 18, 2000 Happy Birthday ! I bet those are the best brownies anyone has ever had. Carol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2000 Report Share Posted October 18, 2000 Great idea. Maybe I'll try the songs too. sings along with the barney song " I love you..... " and she opens up and yells when I'm listening to Barbara Strisand, but she won't sing along with anything else. (She does do the finger motions though). But maybe if she's sees me singing on the tv, she'll want to join in. Heck, I'll try anything! Oh, I forgot to tell everyone that today is Caire's 5th birthday! We're having brownies after dinner that helped to make. She cracked the eggs and said egg (first time I've heard that!) all by herself. The recipe called for two, but she enjoyed it so much that our brownies got three eggs. Thanks for letting me brag. I'm proud of her tonight! Re: autism eval > In a message dated 10/18/00 12:45:17 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > jk-harding@... writes: > > << also gets upset when I turn off the movie. Unless it is family time > in the evening (she's used to that) Right now I'm in the process of taking > my video camera around our farm and making an alphabet movie of her > own. I'm using familiar objects that she already knows the name of (A is > for Apple, B is for boat, C is for and cat, etc..) I'm not finished > yet, but since she does love to watch our home movies, I'm hoping she'll > like this one as well. I've also thought about reading stories to her on > video. When I get motivated enough to do it, I'll let you know if > likes them or not. > >> > > Cool idea ! I make videos of me doing Seth's finger songs that he > loves hoping that he will try and do it too. Like wheels on the bus and itsy > bitsy spider. > Gail > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2000 Report Share Posted October 19, 2000 happy birthday claire......hey she can come help out at my house, can she vacuum and fold mountains of piles of laundry......monster in law will be here on tuesday......ikees Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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