Re: Re: Advice - deep infection or ?

[Guest guest]

Gracie,

ph's differential would USUALLY shift as if it were a SEVERE bacterial

infection. His WBC's would sometimes go as high as 59,000. That is part of

the reason from 6 months until 18 months old he ended up having 3 spinal

taps... They ALWAYS feared bacterial meningitis as well as endocarditis.

I was always petrified. His shift was drastic too....

It ended up ALWAYS being .

It is SOOOOOOOOOO confusing because some kids get drastic lab changes with

WBCs ... some with Sed Rate and CRP and some get all of the lab changes...

Still... others get no change or very little. The clinical presentation is

so different in many of the kids labeled with .

One thing I have noticed... since ph had his tonsils removed at 2ys 10

mths old... his WBC's NEVER have gone REALLY high. They might elevate to

14,000 at the most... but not usually even that high. The shift still

occurs.... but in less severity. His temps also almost always elevated to

107.5 and stayed around 105 medicated around the clock.... before his

surgery. Since the tonsils were removed... he usually goes to 104... and

Motrin will actually bring down his fever to almost normal....

NOT sure if this was simply time for a change or the result of his tonsil

removal??

Thought that might interest you.

God Bless,

Fran

Fran A Bulone

Mom to ph 5 yrs old

Waxhaw, NC

Owner & Moderator Group

[Guest guest]

Gracie,

ph's differential would USUALLY shift as if it were a SEVERE bacterial

infection. His WBC's would sometimes go as high as 59,000. That is part of

the reason from 6 months until 18 months old he ended up having 3 spinal

taps... They ALWAYS feared bacterial meningitis as well as endocarditis.

I was always petrified. His shift was drastic too....

It ended up ALWAYS being .

It is SOOOOOOOOOO confusing because some kids get drastic lab changes with

WBCs ... some with Sed Rate and CRP and some get all of the lab changes...

Still... others get no change or very little. The clinical presentation is

so different in many of the kids labeled with .

One thing I have noticed... since ph had his tonsils removed at 2ys 10

mths old... his WBC's NEVER have gone REALLY high. They might elevate to

14,000 at the most... but not usually even that high. The shift still

occurs.... but in less severity. His temps also almost always elevated to

107.5 and stayed around 105 medicated around the clock.... before his

surgery. Since the tonsils were removed... he usually goes to 104... and

Motrin will actually bring down his fever to almost normal....

NOT sure if this was simply time for a change or the result of his tonsil

removal??

Thought that might interest you.

God Bless,

Fran

Fran A Bulone

Mom to ph 5 yrs old

Waxhaw, NC

Owner & Moderator Group

[Guest guest]

Hi,

My daughter gets a red throat with each episode and also the severe

headache this last time.

I believe the bad headaches are common with these fever syndromes.

Up until this last episode she didn't have any of the other symptoms

either.

Her WBC is also always elevated with each fever.

Good luck, I will be praying for your family.

Tracey

mom to Maddie, 5 yrs old

Brent, 9 yrs old

League City, TX

On Wednesday, July 7, 2004, at 09:39 AM, tomj_debj wrote:

> The Ped said the shift in the WBC counts on the differential can

> indicate viral vs. bacterial infections (I can't remember which one

> was elevated)...  however, only one type of WBC was elevated and it

> was the same one as in June when we had a similiar sick appointment

> (fever off schedule, red throat, elevated WBC).  In the past

> Gracie's WBC diff's were all over the map with her fevers (always

> elevated but not indicating one shift or the other) but the last two

> have been almost identical.  It was also interesting, looking back

> at my records this morning that when she was treated for an ear

> infection in April, she skipped her next fever...  I just found out

> that we were able to get an appointment back at Duke Children's

> tomorrow afternoon so hopefully we will get some answers.  My

> biggest concern is the headaches and " different " fevers.  I also

> need to ask them about a tick bite she received a few months ago... 

> Have you heard of others with the really bad headaches?  Thanks!

> Debbie

> Mom to Gracie (5.5)

> and TJ (4)

> Raleigh, NC

>

>

>

>

> > Hi Debbie,

> > What indicators are the doctors using to call this bacterial??

> > Fran

> > Fran A Bulone

> > Mom to ph 5 yrs old

> > Waxhaw, NC

> >

> > Owner & Moderator Group

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Hi,

My daughter gets a red throat with each episode and also the severe

headache this last time.

I believe the bad headaches are common with these fever syndromes.

Up until this last episode she didn't have any of the other symptoms

either.

Her WBC is also always elevated with each fever.

Good luck, I will be praying for your family.

Tracey

mom to Maddie, 5 yrs old

Brent, 9 yrs old

League City, TX

On Wednesday, July 7, 2004, at 09:39 AM, tomj_debj wrote:

> The Ped said the shift in the WBC counts on the differential can

> indicate viral vs. bacterial infections (I can't remember which one

> was elevated)...  however, only one type of WBC was elevated and it

> was the same one as in June when we had a similiar sick appointment

> (fever off schedule, red throat, elevated WBC).  In the past

> Gracie's WBC diff's were all over the map with her fevers (always

> elevated but not indicating one shift or the other) but the last two

> have been almost identical.  It was also interesting, looking back

> at my records this morning that when she was treated for an ear

> infection in April, she skipped her next fever...  I just found out

> that we were able to get an appointment back at Duke Children's

> tomorrow afternoon so hopefully we will get some answers.  My

> biggest concern is the headaches and " different " fevers.  I also

> need to ask them about a tick bite she received a few months ago... 

> Have you heard of others with the really bad headaches?  Thanks!

> Debbie

> Mom to Gracie (5.5)

> and TJ (4)

> Raleigh, NC

>

>

>

>

> > Hi Debbie,

> > What indicators are the doctors using to call this bacterial??

> > Fran

> > Fran A Bulone

> > Mom to ph 5 yrs old

> > Waxhaw, NC

> >

> > Owner & Moderator Group

> >

> >

> >

> >