Guest guest Posted February 3, 2007 Report Share Posted February 3, 2007 On 2/3/07 12:41 PM, " elevatordance " <elevatordance@...> wrote: Why do we think that the author of these messages is actually Rosie? She’s been doing it for years. She talks about being online and her blog all the time. If you read her blog, she’s got hundreds of personal photos on there. She also makes these BORING ass movies of her life with Imovie (since her the Rosie show). So, I know she is on a computer & knows how to use it. Plus, she write in lower case because she says she’s too lazy- which I totally believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2007 Report Share Posted February 3, 2007 Also, She said in one of her autism responses that she has friends who have children with autism, that is why she wanted to do a show. I wonder what her friends think of the show? My son is 11, he was diagnosed at 2. I am so tired of awareness. We are more than aware of autism. We are so over awareness. I understand that her friends children may be young and they are not as far along as we are. However, I don't really see what it was about that show that was so damn orignal in the awareness realm? They offered a misleading picture that children can be artistic- autistic (I've had people say oh, your child is artistic and assume he is good in art). And, the most misleading part of the show was the mother who wrote the book about how they normalized her son with ABA. She made it sound like you just call up the ABA people and they'll fix your kid for free. Now all of us know how hard it is to get good ABA and it certainly doesn't come for free. Some have been lucky to get good services through their schools but that is the exception. Geez, I bet all those other parents felt like losers for not being able to fix their kids with that free ABA. She offered false hope on that one. The only part I thought was decent was the parents at the end with the 17 year old and how there is nothing for adults with autism and they will have to support her because their is not enough funding to help all these soon to be adults. So, where do they go from there? Maybe Rosie could do something about that? Just telling people look this is really a bad situtaion, oh well. Show over. Oh and Temple Grandin praising anxiety meds wasn't a big help either. I think parents are pressured enough to put their kids on meds. I'm not a fan of meds and I know it's a topic people get all passionate about. But allowing Temple to talk about meds and not allowing someone to talk about diets and supplements was not balanced view of how to treat autism. I wonder why she even wanted Kirby there? What was the point? There is no way she read EOH because if she did, she would never tell she " liked " it. That is the last thing anybody would say after reading EOH. > > > > > So this was my exchange with Rosie: > > > > -------------- > > writes: > > Rosie, " The View " avoided any discussion of Autism's causality, and only picks > > orgs as > > resources who have no interest in the thimerosal controversy. Why? Have you > > been > > pressured? > > > > pressured? by who > > listen > > I ROSIE ODONNELL > > chose not to do causation > > ME > > ------------------ > > > > So I guess that's it. But I sense a real reticence...a fear of exploring the > > topic, which comes > > out in the defensive tone of her several responses on this. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2007 Report Share Posted February 3, 2007 What if they had not researched causation with lung cancer or foetal alcohol syndrome, or syphilis or thalidomide ......... Re: Rosie's Blog UNBELIEVABLE So this was my exchange with Rosie:-------------- writes:Rosie, "The View" avoided any discussion of Autism's causality, and only picks orgs as resources who have no interest in the thimerosal controversy. Why? Have you been pressured?pressured? by wholistenI ROSIE ODONNELLchose not to do causationME------------------So I guess that's it. But I sense a real reticence...a fear of exploring the topic, which comes out in the defensive tone of her several responses on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2007 Report Share Posted February 3, 2007 Seems like nobody has the balls to touch this subject but Imus. Re: Re: Rosie's Blog UNBELIEVABLE Wait. Rosie decided that a WHOLE show about autism would not include mercury, thimerosal, vaccines, cause, or biomedical treatments? As a host she has THAT much power? I thought a producer makes that decision. When you have a show like Oprah or Montel- it’s THEIR show. But, the View had been around for about 8 years or so. It’s not the Rosie show- like someone else wrote- it’s THE VIEW--- it’s supposed to be 4 women from different ages and backgrounds sharing their views on different subjects. Damn you Meredith Viera!On 2/3/07 12:31 PM, " Nanstiel" <erikautismmedia (DOT) org> wrote: So this was my exchange with Rosie:-------------- writes:Rosie, "The View" avoided any discussion of Autism's causality, and only picks orgs as resources who have no interest in the thimerosal controversy. Why? Have you been pressured?pressured? by wholistenI ROSIE ODONNELLchose not to do causationME------------------So I guess that's it. But I sense a real reticence...a fear of exploring the topic, which comes out in the defensive tone of her several responses on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2007 Report Share Posted February 3, 2007 She has a pronounced style. It would not be so hard to do her. Lenny > > I believe it. Sure sounds like her. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2007 Report Share Posted February 3, 2007 Hi Just for the record 1) Rosie said she thought the book was “very good,” not that she liked it. 2) She told me it was the producers who decided to focus only on families, and not get into causation. She said it wasn’t “her” show, and added: “When you are in someone else’s living room, you don’t move around the furniture.” That doesn’t seem to jive with what she wrote on her blog, but I am just reporting what I heard. PS: Arthur and I had a really good discussion yesterday, moderated by Ackerman for Autism One Radio. It will be webcast Feb 9th, I think. Most of the talk was about rising numbers vs better reporting, but we also addressed the California numbers Hope you can tune in. Cheers DK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2007 Report Share Posted February 3, 2007 I think the producers that called DK knew at that point they were not going there but they also knew that all of the DK fans would be tuning in to see if he was on. Marketing scheme. From: "andrea52521991" <mkeller@...>Reply-EOHarm To: EOHarm Subject: Re: Rosie's Blog UNBELIEVABLEDate: Sat, 03 Feb 2007 18:26:36 -0000 Also, She said in one of her autism responses that she has friends who have children with autism, that is why she wanted to do a show. I wonder what her friends think of the show?My son is 11, he was diagnosed at 2. I am so tired of awareness. We are more than aware of autism. We are so over awareness. I understand that her friends children may be young and they are not as far along as we are. However, I don't really see what it was about that show that was so damn orignal in the awareness realm?They offered a misleading picture that children can be artistic-autistic (I've had people say oh, your child is artistic and assume he is good in art).And, the most misleading part of the show was the mother who wrote the book about how they normalized her son with ABA. She made it sound like you just call up the ABA people and they'll fix your kid for free. Now all of us know how hard it is to get good ABA and it certainly doesn't come for free. Some have been lucky to get good services through their schools but that is the exception. Geez, I bet all those other parents felt like losers for not being able to fix their kids with that free ABA. She offered false hope on that one. The only part I thought was decent was the parents at the end with the 17 year old and how there is nothing for adults with autism and they will have to support her because their is not enough funding to help all these soon to be adults. So, where do they go from there?Maybe Rosie could do something about that? Just telling people look this is really a bad situtaion, oh well. Show over.Oh and Temple Grandin praising anxiety meds wasn't a big help either. I think parents are pressured enough to put their kids on meds. I'm not a fan of meds and I know it's a topic people get all passionate about. But allowing Temple to talk about meds and not allowing someone to talk about diets and supplements was not balanced view of how to treat autism.I wonder why she even wanted Kirby there? What was the point? There is no way she read EOH because if she did, she would never tell she "liked" it. That is the last thing anybody would say after reading EOH.> > > > > So this was my exchange with Rosie:> > > > --------------> > writes:> > Rosie, "The View" avoided any discussion of Autism's causality, and only picks> > orgs as > > resources who have no interest in the thimerosal controversy. Why? Have you> > been > > pressured?> > > > pressured? by who> > listen> > I ROSIE ODONNELL> > chose not to do causation> > ME> > ------------------> > > > So I guess that's it. But I sense a real reticence...a fear of exploring the> > topic, which comes> > out in the defensive tone of her several responses on this.> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2007 Report Share Posted February 3, 2007 Yeah, , that's right. I remember you saying that she told you it wasn't her show... then she responds to MY message saying it was HER DECISION. So she either lied to you, or she lied in her reply to me. > > Hi > > Just for the record > > 1) Rosie said she thought the book was " very good, " not that she liked > it. > > 2) She told me it was the producers who decided to focus only on > families, and not get into causation. She said it wasn't " her " show, and > added: " When you are in someone else's living room, you don't move > around the furniture. " > > That doesn't seem to jive with what she wrote on her blog, but I am just > reporting what I heard. > > PS: Arthur and I had a really good discussion yesterday, moderated > by Ackerman for Autism One Radio. It will be webcast Feb 9th, I > think. > > Most of the talk was about rising numbers vs better reporting, but we > also addressed the California numbers > > Hope you can tune in. > > Cheers > > DK > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2007 Report Share Posted February 3, 2007 I've seen smaller network affiliates throughout the country (not in the major cities) do balanced reporting on the controversy. But you're right, Imus is one of the few well known media personas that will address it honestly. > > > > > So this was my exchange with Rosie: > > -------------- > writes: > Rosie, " The View " avoided any discussion of Autism's causality, and only picks orgs as > resources who have no interest in the thimerosal controversy. Why? Have you been > pressured? > > pressured? by who > listen > I ROSIE ODONNELL > chose not to do causation > ME > ------------------ > > So I guess that's it. But I sense a real reticence...a fear of exploring the topic, which comes > out in the defensive tone of her several responses on this. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2007 Report Share Posted February 3, 2007 Lenny, my love, I think it would impossible for YOU to do her.... > > > > I believe it. Sure sounds like her. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2007 Report Share Posted February 4, 2007 > > Lenny, my love, I think it would impossible for YOU to do her.... > Careful, some folks don't find the subject matter funny in any way. But nothing is impossible. Besides, I might really be a lesbian trapped inside a man's body. Running and ducking. . . Lennie xox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2007 Report Share Posted February 4, 2007 Nice DK. Thanks for the info. Look forward to hearing it. Baxter's mom recoverd in 2005 > > Hi > > Just for the record > > 1) Rosie said she thought the book was " very good, " not that she liked > it. > > 2) She told me it was the producers who decided to focus only on > families, and not get into causation. She said it wasn't " her " show, and > added: " When you are in someone else's living room, you don't move > around the furniture. " > > That doesn't seem to jive with what she wrote on her blog, but I am just > reporting what I heard. > > PS: Arthur and I had a really good discussion yesterday, moderated > by Ackerman for Autism One Radio. It will be webcast Feb 9th, I > think. > > Most of the talk was about rising numbers vs better reporting, but we > also addressed the California numbers > > Hope you can tune in. > > Cheers > > DK > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2007 Report Share Posted February 4, 2007 I tell ya reading those postings on autism makes me want to hunt those people down and slap them in the face. Then have them live a few months with my son. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2007 Report Share Posted February 4, 2007 I don't know, for me, it appeared to be more a physical/mechanical thing than a sexual preference thing. Re: Rosie's Blog UNBELIEVABLE >> Lenny, my love, I think it would impossible for YOU to do her....> Careful, some folks don't find the subject matter funny in any way.But nothing is impossible. Besides, I might really be a lesbiantrapped inside a man's body.Running and ducking. . .Lenniexox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2007 Report Share Posted February 4, 2007 I'm sort of glad you said that! I told other advocates that I was not afraid to talk to the ACIP personally because I KNEW not one of them would last a weekend in my home (I have 3 vaccine-injured boys). >From: Lake260@... >Reply-EOHarm >EOHarm >Subject: Re: Rosie's Blog UNBELIEVABLE >Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 14:11:07 EST > >I tell ya reading those postings on autism makes me want to hunt those >people down and slap them in the face. Then have them live a few months >with my >son. _________________________________________________________________ Search for grocery stores. Find gratitude. Turn a simple search into something more. http://click4thecause.live.com/search/charity/default.aspx?source=hmemtagline_gr\ atitude & FORM=WLMTAG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2007 Report Share Posted February 4, 2007 Neurodiversity must be bored... I swear these people live vicariously through us... http://www.kevinleitch.co.uk/wp/?p=502#comments > > I'm sort of glad you said that! I told other advocates that I was not > afraid to talk to the ACIP personally because I KNEW not one of them would > last a weekend in my home (I have 3 vaccine-injured boys). > > > >From: Lake260@... > >Reply-EOHarm > >EOHarm > >Subject: Re: Rosie's Blog UNBELIEVABLE > >Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 14:11:07 EST > > > >I tell ya reading those postings on autism makes me want to hunt those > >people down and slap them in the face. Then have them live a few months > >with my > >son. > > _________________________________________________________________ > Search for grocery stores. Find gratitude. Turn a simple search into > something more. > http://click4thecause.live.com/search/charity/default.aspx? source=hmemtagline_gratitude & FORM=WLMTAG > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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