Guest guest Posted February 2, 2007 Report Share Posted February 2, 2007 OH yeah! I have been reading it and it is pissing me off! I used to be a Rosie Supporter but for some reason, she doesn't really want to talk about Causation! Who is paying her! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2007 Report Share Posted February 2, 2007 Have you guys looked at her blog lately? there are quite a few new comments on autism/the show...here's one comment: writes: Rosie - Everyone keeps coming after you for not speaking of causation on the autism show. No one is mentioning that thimerosal has been removed from shots, but autism diagnosis haven't declined. and here we go ego this is about ego cause no one knows 4 sure IS SHE SERIOUS!?!?! This is not the only post, I just have got to walk away from this before I have a heart attack. I mean it. Kim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2007 Report Share Posted February 2, 2007 This is Rosie's response? and here we go ego this is about ego cause no one knows 4 sure ??????? > > Have you guys looked at her blog lately? there are quite a few new > comments on autism/the show...here's one comment: > > writes: > > Rosie - Everyone keeps coming after you for not speaking of causation > on the autism show. No one is mentioning that thimerosal has been > removed from shots, but autism diagnosis haven't declined. > > and here we go > ego > this is about ego > cause no one knows > 4 sure > > IS SHE SERIOUS!?!?! This is not the only post, I just have got to > walk away from this before I have a heart attack. I mean it. > Kim > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2007 Report Share Posted February 2, 2007 Too bad our kids are autistic and not gay.... We could have show after show on anything we wanted. > > Have you guys looked at her blog lately? there are quite a few new > comments on autism/the show...here's one comment: > > writes: > > Rosie - Everyone keeps coming after you for not speaking of causation > on the autism show. No one is mentioning that thimerosal has been > removed from shots, but autism diagnosis haven't declined. > > and here we go > ego > this is about ego > cause no one knows > 4 sure > > IS SHE SERIOUS!?!?! This is not the only post, I just have got to > walk away from this before I have a heart attack. I mean it. > Kim > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2007 Report Share Posted February 2, 2007 It’s about ego???? I thought it was about poop. Pamela " Courage is doing what you're afraid to do. There can be no courage unless you're scared. " Eddie Rickenbacker, top US fighter ace, WWI From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of kimsense Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 5:46 PM EOHarm Subject: Rosie's Blog UNBELIEVABLE Have you guys looked at her blog lately? there are quite a few new comments on autism/the show...here's one comment: writes: Rosie - Everyone keeps coming after you for not speaking of causation on the autism show. No one is mentioning that thimerosal has been removed from shots, but autism diagnosis haven't declined. and here we go ego this is about ego cause no one knows 4 sure IS SHE SERIOUS!?!?! This is not the only post, I just have got to walk away from this before I have a heart attack. I mean it. Kim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2007 Report Share Posted February 3, 2007 YES...there's also someone who contributes a comment who says that finding a cause is all about blame and how we need to focus on the positive (i'm not quoting)...Rosie AGREES. finding a cause is about PREVENTION!!! She's clearly lost her mind > > > > Have you guys looked at her blog lately? there are quite a few > new > > comments on autism/the show...here's one comment: > > > > writes: > > > > Rosie - Everyone keeps coming after you for not speaking of > causation > > on the autism show. No one is mentioning that thimerosal has been > > removed from shots, but autism diagnosis haven't declined. > > > > and here we go > > ego > > this is about ego > > cause no one knows > > 4 sure > > > > IS SHE SERIOUS!?!?! This is not the only post, I just have got to > > walk away from this before I have a heart attack. I mean it. > > Kim > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2007 Report Share Posted February 3, 2007 On 2/2/07 7:59 PM, " kimsense " <kimrspencer@...> wrote: YES...there's also someone who contributes a comment who says that finding a cause is all about blame and how we need to focus on the positive (i'm not quoting)...Rosie AGREES. finding a cause is about PREVENTION!!! She's clearly lost her mind I think we should give her a pop quiz on Evidence of Harm. No person who read that book would be writing such crap. I think she lied to about reading it. She probably has a lot of money invested.... Connect the dots. Montel said he would be doing another show on autism and vaccines- I think we should focus our attention on him and support his next show. The View/Rosie (they are one in the same) is a dead end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2007 Report Share Posted February 3, 2007 I think we should not read her blogs because she has other motivations than to help our children and even if she were educated on this subject(which I very much doubt) since she said to DK " It's a very good book" or something to that effect--what a dumb ass comment to make. She is not going to be our saviour-so forget her-she counts for nada in our lives---she has a huge ego and I never liked her before and I like her even less now. I think we should take our energies to where it counts- Rosie is yesterday's bad news. Maurinekimsense <kimrspencer@...> wrote: YES...there's also someone who contributes a comment who says that finding a cause is all about blame and how we need to focus on the positive (i'm not quoting)...Rosie AGREES. finding a cause is about PREVENTION!!! She's clearly lost her mind> >> > Have you guys looked at her blog lately? there are quite a few > new > > comments on autism/the show...here's one comment:> > > > writes:> > > > Rosie - Everyone keeps coming after you for not speaking of > causation > > on the autism show. No one is mentioning that thimerosal has been > > removed from shots, but autism diagnosis haven't declined.> > > > and here we go> > ego> > this is about ego> > cause no one knows> > 4 sure > > > > IS SHE SERIOUS!?!?! This is not the only post, I just have got to > > walk away from this before I have a heart attack. I mean it.> > Kim> >> Check out the all-new beta - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2007 Report Share Posted February 3, 2007 , I don’t know if she read the book but when I read the comment attributed to her “I read the book and I liked it”, I thought “you are LYING”. I have read the book several times and I hate it. not because didn’t do an excellent job but because it made me sick to my stomach. I have never heard anyone say they “liked” that book. I puked the first time I read it and I was there and lived every page of it. I knew every player. I remember Lyn sitting at the Orlando Conference, I remember introducing Andy to speak. I was at every hearing in DC. I remembered every scene from my memories and to see it in print was excruciating. It still is. No one likes that book. No one should. But it’s a very important book and I hate to see it pissed away like it was by these idiots. Screw em all. Holly From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of christine heeren Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 8:13 PM EOHarm Subject: Re: Re: Rosie's Blog UNBELIEVABLE On 2/2/07 7:59 PM, " kimsense " <kimrspencerhotmail> wrote: YES...there's also someone who contributes a comment who says that finding a cause is all about blame and how we need to focus on the positive (i'm not quoting)...Rosie AGREES. finding a cause is about PREVENTION!!! She's clearly lost her mind I think we should give her a pop quiz on Evidence of Harm. No person who read that book would be writing such crap. I think she lied to about reading it. She probably has a lot of money invested.... Connect the dots. Montel said he would be doing another show on autism and vaccines- I think we should focus our attention on him and support his next show. The View/Rosie (they are one in the same) is a dead end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2007 Report Share Posted February 3, 2007 Montel does that commercial for pharma now...I'm not counting on him! > > > > YES...there's also someone who contributes a comment who says that > > finding a cause is all about blame and how we need to focus on the > > positive (i'm not quoting)...Rosie AGREES. finding a cause is about > > PREVENTION!!! She's clearly lost her mind > > > I think we should give her a pop quiz on Evidence of Harm. No person who > read that book would be writing such crap. I think she lied to about > reading it. She probably has a lot of money invested.... Connect the dots. > Montel said he would be doing another show on autism and vaccines- I think > we should focus our attention on him and support his next show. The > View/Rosie (they are one in the same) is a dead end. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2007 Report Share Posted February 3, 2007 On 2/2/07 9:35 PM, " kimsense " <kimrspencer@...> wrote: Montel does that commercial for pharma now...I'm not counting on him! I thought the same thing until I saw that episode that ran around xmas. I posted the transcript on this list. He is still upset about mercury in vaccines. Surprised the hell out of me. He’s got more balls than Rosie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2007 Report Share Posted February 3, 2007 You people are so critical! It's not about the cause or the blame. It's about puppy dogs, and candy and love and teddy bears and Barney. Where's my hammer! Re: Re: Rosie's Blog UNBELIEVABLE On 2/2/07 7:59 PM, "kimsense" <kimrspencerhotmail> wrote: YES...there's also someone who contributes a comment who says that finding a cause is all about blame and how we need to focus on the positive (i'm not quoting)...Rosie AGREES. finding a cause is about PREVENTION!!! She's clearly lost her mindI think we should give her a pop quiz on Evidence of Harm. No person who read that book would be writing such crap. I think she lied to about reading it. She probably has a lot of money invested.... Connect the dots. Montel said he would be doing another show on autism and vaccines- I think we should focus our attention on him and support his next show. The View/Rosie (they are one in the same) is a dead end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2007 Report Share Posted February 3, 2007 Evidence of Harm is the principal seminal book on this issue. It was the icebreaker and it is still its most important piece. It will be viewed historically as a fundamental treatise on health, medical care, personal freedom, the intersection of government, corruption and health as business and the way this society treats its most precious asset, its children. It will be recognized as a turning point in this society and how this society moved forward. It is that brilliant. And yet, it is extremely painful. But revel in its power, because a book that can cause such a visceral response is extremely powerful. And it evokes that response in all who touch its pages. You cannot say enough about Kirby, the courage he had to write this book, his tireless efforts to address this issue and his continued efforts on behalf of us and on behalf of this country and on behalf of the children of this planet. Indeed, the pen is mightier than the sword. And , you have one helluva pen. RE: Re: Rosie's Blog UNBELIEVABLE , I don’t know if she read the book but when I read the comment attributed to her “I read the book and I liked it”, I thought “you are LYING”. I have read the book several times and I hate it. not because didn’t do an excellent job but because it made me sick to my stomach. I have never heard anyone say they “liked” that book. I puked the first time I read it and I was there and lived every page of it. I knew every player. I remember Lyn sitting at the Orlando Conference, I remember introducing Andy to speak. I was at every hearing in DC. I remembered every scene from my memories and to see it in print was excruciating. It still is. No one likes that book. No one should. But it’s a very important book and I hate to see it pissed away like it was by these idiots. Screw em all. Holly From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of christine heerenSent: Friday, February 02, 2007 8:13 PMEOHarm Subject: Re: Re: Rosie's Blog UNBELIEVABLE On 2/2/07 7:59 PM, "kimsense" <kimrspencerhotmail> wrote: YES...there's also someone who contributes a comment who says that finding a cause is all about blame and how we need to focus on the positive (i'm not quoting)...Rosie AGREES. finding a cause is about PREVENTION!!! She's clearly lost her mind I think we should give her a pop quiz on Evidence of Harm. No person who read that book would be writing such crap. I think she lied to about reading it. She probably has a lot of money invested.... Connect the dots. Montel said he would be doing another show on autism and vaccines- I think we should focus our attention on him and support his next show. The View/Rosie (they are one in the same) is a dead end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2007 Report Share Posted February 3, 2007 Relying on clowns to solve your problems gets you no more than a seat on a midget car in a three ring circus. Re: Re: Rosie's Blog UNBELIEVABLE OH yeah! I have been reading it and it is pissing me off! I used to be a Rosie Supporter but for some reason, she doesn't really want to talk about Causation! Who is paying her! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2007 Report Share Posted February 3, 2007 AMEN, Holly! I too threw up a few chapters in. I couldn't finish it for weeks because it made me so angry and upset that I couldn't focus on taking care of my children or myself. I still hold it and cry. Most of that book took place BEFORE my daughter was conceived! NO ONE should "like" that book. NO ONE. -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Holly Bortfeld" <maximom@...> , I don’t know if she read the book but when I read the comment attributed to her “I read the book and I liked it”, I thought “you are LYING”. I have read the book several times and I hate it. not because didn’t do an excellent job but because it made me sick to my stomach. I have never heard anyone say they “liked” that book. I puked the first time I read it and I was there and lived every page of it. I knew every player. I remember Lyn sitting at the Orlando Conference, I remember introducing Andy to speak. I was at every hearing in DC. I remembered every scene from my memories and to see it in print was excruciating. It still is. No one likes that book. No one should. But it’s a very important book and I hate to see it pissed away like it was by these idiots. Screw em all. Holly From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of christine heerenSent: Friday, February 02, 2007 8:13 PMEOHarm Subject: Re: Re: Rosie's Blog UNBELIEVABLE On 2/2/07 7:59 PM, "kimsense" <kimrspencerhotmail> wrote: YES...there's also someone who contributes a comment who says that finding a cause is all about blame and how we need to focus on the positive (i'm not quoting)...Rosie AGREES. finding a cause is about PREVENTION!!! She's clearly lost her mind I think we should give her a pop quiz on Evidence of Harm. No person who read that book would be writing such crap. I think she lied to about reading it. She probably has a lot of money invested.... Connect the dots. Montel said he would be doing another show on autism and vaccines- I think we should focus our attention on him and support his next show. The View/Rosie (they are one in the same) is a dead end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2007 Report Share Posted February 3, 2007 Well, I LOVE the book, but I hate the story it has to tell. Difference. > > YES...there's also someone who contributes a comment who says that > finding a cause is all about blame and how we need to focus on the > positive (i'm not quoting)...Rosie AGREES. finding a cause is about > PREVENTION!!! She's clearly lost her mind > > > I think we should give her a pop quiz on Evidence of Harm. No person who read that book would be writing such crap. I think she lied to about reading it. She probably has a lot of money invested.... Connect the dots. > Montel said he would be doing another show on autism and vaccines- I think we should focus our attention on him and support his next show. The View/Rosie (they are one in the same) is a dead end. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2007 Report Share Posted February 3, 2007 Also, someone said she got it the night before or the week before - how did she have time to read that entire book before the show. It too me forever, because I would read parts and then have to put it down and avoid it for a bit because it was soooo upsetting. Even if she skimmed like other talk show hosts, how can you avoid the tables and graphs of evidence? > > YES...there's also someone who contributes a comment who says that > finding a cause is all about blame and how we need to focus on the > positive (i'm not quoting)...Rosie AGREES. finding a cause is about > PREVENTION!!! She's clearly lost her mind > > > I think we should give her a pop quiz on Evidence of Harm. No person who read that book would be writing such crap. I think she lied to about reading it. She probably has a lot of money invested.... Connect the dots. > Montel said he would be doing another show on autism and vaccines- I think we should focus our attention on him and support his next show. The View/Rosie (they are one in the same) is a dead end. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2007 Report Share Posted February 3, 2007 It took me three weeks of reading it every time I had five minutes to steal. I was in a hurry to read it in preparation for FAIR's May 2005 interview with Mr. Kirby... so I don't see Rosie reading it that quickly with her busy schedule.... > > > > YES...there's also someone who contributes a comment who says that > > finding a cause is all about blame and how we need to focus on the > > positive (i'm not quoting)...Rosie AGREES. finding a cause is > about > > PREVENTION!!! She's clearly lost her mind > > > > > > I think we should give her a pop quiz on Evidence of Harm. No > person who read that book would be writing such crap. I think she > lied to about reading it. She probably has a lot of money > invested.... Connect the dots. > > Montel said he would be doing another show on autism and vaccines- > I think we should focus our attention on him and support his next > show. The View/Rosie (they are one in the same) is a dead end. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2007 Report Share Posted February 3, 2007 How do i get to this blog? I may have to become unprofessional with this. From: " Gilmore" <yogilmore@...>Reply-EOHarm To: EOHarm Subject: Re: Rosie's Blog UNBELIEVABLEDate: Fri, 02 Feb 2007 23:10:09 -0000 This is Rosie's response?and here we goegothis is about egocause no one knows4 sure???????>> Have you guys looked at her blog lately? there are quite a few new > comments on autism/the show...here's one comment:> > writes:> > Rosie - Everyone keeps coming after you for not speaking of causation > on the autism show. No one is mentioning that thimerosal has been > removed from shots, but autism diagnosis haven't declined.> > and here we go> ego> this is about ego> cause no one knows> 4 sure > > IS SHE SERIOUS!?!?! This is not the only post, I just have got to > walk away from this before I have a heart attack. I mean it.> Kim> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2007 Report Share Posted February 3, 2007 So this was my exchange with Rosie: -------------- writes: Rosie, " The View " avoided any discussion of Autism's causality, and only picks orgs as resources who have no interest in the thimerosal controversy. Why? Have you been pressured? pressured? by who listen I ROSIE ODONNELL chose not to do causation ME ------------------ So I guess that's it. But I sense a real reticence...a fear of exploring the topic, which comes out in the defensive tone of her several responses on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2007 Report Share Posted February 3, 2007 Why do we think that the author of these messages is actually Rosie? From: " Nanstiel" <erik@...>Reply-EOHarm To: EOHarm Subject: Re: Rosie's Blog UNBELIEVABLEDate: Sat, 03 Feb 2007 17:31:27 -0000 So this was my exchange with Rosie:-------------- writes:Rosie, "The View" avoided any discussion of Autism's causality, and only picks orgs as resources who have no interest in the thimerosal controversy. Why? Have you been pressured?pressured? by wholistenI ROSIE ODONNELLchose not to do causationME------------------So I guess that's it. But I sense a real reticence...a fear of exploring the topic, which comes out in the defensive tone of her several responses on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2007 Report Share Posted February 3, 2007 I believe it. Sure sounds like her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2007 Report Share Posted February 3, 2007 Maybe she got the Cliff Notes.....:-) > > > > > > YES...there's also someone who contributes a comment who says that > > > finding a cause is all about blame and how we need to focus on the > > > positive (i'm not quoting)...Rosie AGREES. finding a cause is > > about > > > PREVENTION!!! She's clearly lost her mind > > > > > > > > > I think we should give her a pop quiz on Evidence of Harm. No > > person who read that book would be writing such crap. I think she > > lied to about reading it. She probably has a lot of money > > invested.... Connect the dots. > > > Montel said he would be doing another show on autism and vaccines- > > I think we should focus our attention on him and support his next > > show. The View/Rosie (they are one in the same) is a dead end. > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2007 Report Share Posted February 3, 2007 O'Donnell, if this is her view, misses the point. By presenting ABA and a nonsensical statement by an MD about " looking at the Y chromosome " the show did present a view on causation. Nothing about non-pharmaceutical biomedical treatment - next to nothing about physiological disorders many of us know as autism. O'Donnel is ill-informed and arrogant to believe that she knows enough to make sound judgments on the issues. On Feb 3, 2007, at 12:41 PM, elevatordance wrote: Why do we think that the author of these messages is actually Rosie? > From: " Nanstiel " <erik@...> > Reply-EOHarm > EOHarm > Subject: Re: Rosie's Blog UNBELIEVABLE > Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2007 17:31:27 -0000 > > > So this was my exchange with Rosie: > > -------------- > writes: > Rosie, " The View " avoided any discussion of Autism's causality, and > only picks orgs as > resources who have no interest in the thimerosal controversy. Why? > Have you been > pressured? > > pressured? by who > listen > I ROSIE ODONNELL > chose not to do causation > ME > ------------------ > > So I guess that's it. But I sense a real reticence...a fear of > exploring the topic, which comes > out in the defensive tone of her several responses on this. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2007 Report Share Posted February 3, 2007 Wait. Rosie decided that a WHOLE show about autism would not include mercury, thimerosal, vaccines, cause, or biomedical treatments? As a host she has THAT much power? I thought a producer makes that decision. When you have a show like Oprah or Montel- it’s THEIR show. But, the View had been around for about 8 years or so. It’s not the Rosie show- like someone else wrote- it’s THE VIEW--- it’s supposed to be 4 women from different ages and backgrounds sharing their views on different subjects. Damn you Meredith Viera! On 2/3/07 12:31 PM, " Nanstiel " <erik@...> wrote: So this was my exchange with Rosie: -------------- writes: Rosie, " The View " avoided any discussion of Autism's causality, and only picks orgs as resources who have no interest in the thimerosal controversy. Why? Have you been pressured? pressured? by who listen I ROSIE ODONNELL chose not to do causation ME ------------------ So I guess that's it. But I sense a real reticence...a fear of exploring the topic, which comes out in the defensive tone of her several responses on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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