Re: The Autism Movement has been Hijacked

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>

>

> First, let me state very clearly that I have nothing but disdain for the

> organization(s) Autism Speaks/NAAR/CAN and many of their actions. Now

> allow me to clarify that my disdain does not apply to some individuals

> associated with those organizations such Sallie Bernard, former

> president of Cure Autism Now Board of Directors. I consider Sallie a

> friend and she has proven time and time again her loyalty and commitment

> to our children. I do not hold her personally responsible for any of

> the seemingly nefarious actions of CAN. She is but one person on that

> Board. After almost four years of interacting with her, I would like to

> think I know Sallie's heart; and it is in the right place, good and

> pure. Another fine man associated with the CAN Board is Dr.

> Baskin, whose research and published papers regarding the acute toxicity

> of Thimerosal are phenomenal. I do not hold Dr. Baskin responsible for

> the poor choices of CAN. Bell, aka " Mr. Risperdal " is another

> matter all together but that is another kettle of fish for another time.

>

> Furthermore, I bear no ill will personally towards Bob and Suzanne

> . My heart aches for them as it does for any genuinely grieving

> grandparent, parent, family member or friend that has or knows an

> " autistic " child.

>

> Bob is in a difficult position whereby his professional life may

> be an impediment to his expressing his personal belief regarding what

> happened to his grandson. I say " may be an impediment " because

> I have never personally spoken to Bob and can not say with

> certainty whether or not he believes his grandson has mercury poisoning.

> If he in fact believes mercury was involved, one would have thought he

> would contact me or NoMercury considering our extensive scientific and

> forensic accounting investigation into the matter but perhaps others

> have already presented him with some of my workproduct (certainly

> wouldn't be the first time that our workproduct was not properly

> credited so that is likely). Having learned my lesson in that regard it

> is rare that I disclose any information except with a select few

> trustworthy and loyal individuals. Am I the only one to think that

> sometimes our community is its own worst enemy? Sometimes, I still

> struggle to understand why some choose to do the most duplicitous and

> counter-productive actions that destroy friendships, trust and morale in

> our community for the sake of a few minutes attention, fame or adoration

> (or perhaps even financial gain). Is it really worth it in the end?

> Not to me. Pardon me for digressing with those personal observations

> and my mini-rant.

>

> Now let's look at the FACTS. The following is a small part of a

> February 2005 investigation into this matter by myself and two other

> parents (I would be happy to give them equal credit but having just

> returned from a trip testifying for the Nebraska mercury ban, I have not

> yet spoken to them this morning so I will not divulge their identity

> without their permission though most of you who know me and this

> community can easily surmise who my investigative colleagues are in this

> matter). Their assistance, friendship, support, guidance, intelligence,

> humor and committment is always appreciated and is often what helps me

> get through the day. My failure to name them in this message is in no

> way meant to diminish their contribution to this investigation.

>

> BOB WRIGHT is Vice Chairman and Executive Officer, GE Chairman and Chief

> Executive Officer, NBC Universal.

> http://www.nbcuni.com/About_NBC_Universal/Executive_Bios/wright_bob.shtm\

> l

> <http://www.nbcuni.com/About_NBC_Universal/Executive_Bios/wright_bob.sht\

> ml>

>

> NBC is owned by General Electric (GE). As the #1 man at NBC and the #2

> man at GE, Mr. has a legal fiduciary duty (and many would say a

> moral) to protect his company, its subsidiaries and stockholders from

> financial harm. Bob owes a fiduciary duty to only one group: GE

> shareholders. That is his legal obligation.

>

> NBC Universal owns CNBC, which during 's tenure has become the

> global leader in business news, providing real-time financial-market

> information to more than 86 million households in the United States and

> 340 million homes worldwide. In addition, MSNBC, NBC's joint venture

> with Microsoft, reaches 83 million U.S. cable subscribers and up to 24

> million unique users each month on the Internet.

>

> (Remember, Microsoft is owned by Bill Gates who started and largely

> financed GAVI with donations from the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation

> of well over one billion dollars. GAVI is an acyronym which stands for

> Global Alliance for Vaccines and Immunizations of which CDC, FDA, WHO

> and PhaRMA are partners and " stakeholders " along with World Bank among

> others. But GAVI and " friends " is yet another investigation and way too

> comlicated to discuss in this format so pardon the digression)

>

> Prior to his association with NBC and now NBC Universal, served

> as president of General Electric Financial Services and, before that, as

> president of Cable Communications. He has had a diversified career

> in general management, marketing, and broadcasting. Much of it has been

> with General Electric, NBC Universal's parent company.

>

> NBC, led by Bob , has a major financial influence worldwide.

> has had one of the longest and most successful tenures of any

> media company chief executive. Under his leadership, NBC was transformed

> from a broadcast network into a global media powerhouse with leadership

> in television programming, station ownership, and television production.

> With the formation of NBC Universal, takes the reins of one of

> the world's fastest-growing and most-profitable media and entertainment

> companies, and a leader in the development, production, and marketing of

> entertainment, news, and information to a global audience.

> http://www.ge.com/en/company/companyinfo/executivebios/eb_wright.htm

> <http://www.ge.com/en/company/companyinfo/executivebios/eb_wright.htm>

>

> GE is a huge behemoth conglomerate of companies.

>

> General Electric (GE) also owns GE Healthcare. GE Healthcare is a $14

> billion unit of General Electric Company (NYSE: GE) that is

> headquartered in the United Kingdom. Worldwide, GE Healthcare employs

> more than 42,500 people committed to serving healthcare professionals

> and their patients in more than 100 countries.

> http://www.gehealthcare.com/portal/ge_factsheet.html

> <http://www.gehealthcare.com/portal/ge_factsheet.html>

>

> " Imagine a small town where one person not only owns the hardware

> store, but is also the banker and the doctor's most trusted adviser. In

> a sense, General Electric is trying to play such a role in the nation's

> $2 trillion health care industry. … Some critics ask, however, if

> what is good for G.E. is always good for the nation's health care

> system. Medical technology, the company's specialty, is a leading

> contributor to runaway health care costs, and some medical professionals

> and consumer groups say the conglomerate's growing influence among

> hospitals and doctors raises issues about the way scarce dollars are

> being spent. " " The Conglomerate Will See You Now " by

> Abelson and Milt Freudenheim, The New York Times

>

> GE Healthcare makes protein separations chromatography purification

> systems used in the manufacture of over 90 percent of all

> biopharmaceuticals (including vaccines).

> http://www.gehealthcare.com/portal/protein_separations.html

> <http://www.gehealthcare.com/portal/protein_separations.html>

>

> GE also owns Amersham Biosciences – a leading global provider of

> products and services used in gene, protein and cell research, drug

> discovery and development, and biopharmaceutical manufacturing.

>

> http://www.amersham.com/businesses/Biosciences.html

> <http://www.amersham.com/businesses/Biosciences.html>

>

> Amersham Bioscience does supply/use Thimerosal (most likely one of the

> reasons is for the protein separations chromatography purification

> systems as mentioned above). Thus it is unlikely they (GE) or any of

> their employees will state for the record the inherent dangers of a

> product they supply/use. http://www.usbweb.com/msds/22215A.pdf

> <http://www.usbweb.com/msds/22215A.pdf>

>

> NBC often partners with CDC. AUTISM: THE HIDDEN EPIDEMIC was a

> week-long series of programming presented by The NETWORKS OF NBC/CNBC

> and Telemundo during the week of February 21-25, 2005.

> http://www.ahany.org/in_tv.htm <http://www.ahany.org/in_tv.htm> This

> was a national campaign led by the CDC and partner organizations (such

> as NBC) that launched a campaign called " Learn the Signs, Act Early

> <http://www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/autism/actearly/> " It aims to educate

> parents of young children about developmental milestones, signs of

> developmental delays such as autism and the need to discuss concerns

> with their child's doctor or nurse.

>

> Another such NBC/CDC partnership is through " Hollywood, Health &

> Society " Funded by the CDC and NCI. Hollywood, Health & Society

> provides entertainment industry professionals with accurate and timely

> information for health storylines, including free consultations and

> briefings with CDC and NCI experts. The project is based at the USC

> Annenberg School's Norman Lear Center as a one-stop-shop for

> writers, producers and others in search of credible information on a

> wide range of public health topics. For more information about resources

> for writers, go to the Hollywood, Health & Society Web site at

> www.usc.edu/hhs.

>

> The Norman Lear Center is a multidisciplinary research and public policy

> center exploring implications of the convergence of entertainment,

> commerce and society. Based at the USC Annenberg School for

> Communication, the Lear Center works to bridge the gap between the

> entertainment industry and academia, and between them and the public.

> For more information, visit www.learcenter.org

> <http://www.learcenter.org/> .

>

> Located in Los Angeles at the University of Southern California, the USC

> Annenberg School for Communication is among the nation's leading

> institutions devoted to the study of journalism and communication, and

> their impact on politics, culture and society. With an enrollment of

> more than 1,900 graduate and undergraduate students, USC Annenberg

> offers Bachelor's, Master's and doctoral degrees in journalism,

> communication, public diplomacy and public relations. For more

> information, please visit www.annenberg.usc.edu.

>

> " The CDC recognizes the power of popular entertainment in shaping

> the perceptions and practices of its viewers. Television shows, movies,

> and music not only command the attention of their audiences, but also

> reinforce existing behavior, demonstrate new behavior, and affect

> audience emotions. The CDC often partners with Hollywood executives and

> academic, public health, and advocacy organizations to share information

> with writers and producers about the nation's pressing health

> issues. "

> http://www.cdc.gov/communication/entertainment_education.htm

> <http://www.cdc.gov/communication/entertainment_education.htm>

>

> This is but a small sample of our findings. If you think these

> financial conflicts of interest are troubling then they pale in

> comparison to the COI at Autism Speaks/NAAR, CAN!!! But any overview of

> my forensic investigation into that matter would be 10 times longer than

> this post and Lenny would be ready to strangle me for using that much

> space. Considering that Lenny is one of my heroes, I try not to get on

> his bad side. J

>

> Thanks for reading this long post. Hope it helps clear up some matters

> for those of you struggling to understand why Bob and AS seem to

> be working against our children and our community. Personally, I think

> Bob is merely stuck between a rock and a hard place; I believe

> him to be a sincere grandfather, hurting for the grandson whom he

> obviously adores but his legal fiduciary duty to GE and its stockholders

> have him over the proverbial barrel as long as he is their employee and

> those legal obligations outweigh ability to express what may be his

> personal beliefs regarding Thimerosal. I would not want to be in his

> shoes (although as a widow with a mercury-injured child, I sure could

> use his paycheck for one day.)

>

> Regards,

>

> Lujene

> President

> NoMercury

>

>

> --- In EOHarm , " Kendra Pettengill " <achsel@> wrote

> {excerpt}:

> >

> > In my opinion Autism Speaks has hijacked the National Autism movement

> and agenda. They throw themselves out there as representative of the

> parent driven 'grandparent' driven movement, but they are not. They

> represent Big Money and Big Money interests. There is nothing Grass

> Roots about Autism Speaks. They talk about fair research fund

> distribution while they give voice to those like Grinker, and pretend

> there is an honest debate there, and still no money for vaccine

> research.

>

> I don't remember voting for them, I don't remember giving them

> permission to steer the agenda from the real cause and potential cures,

> and I don't remember them even freaking asking me. They don't care and

> they don't have to, they can afford not to.

>

> Everyone feels like they have to find something positive to say, why I

> don't know, but they will point out 1) Yes they have taken control over

> the national agenda 2) Yes they have taken control of political lobbying

> 3) Yes, they refuse to take a stand on the vaccine issue 4) Yes they

> refuse to discuss biomedical intervention 5) Yes, at the same time they

> secretly use it for their own children (and grandchildren) 6) Yes, they

> continue to throw funding down the gentic theory rat hole 7) Yes, they

> refuse to fund real vaccine or environmental causes research 8) Yes,

> they refuse to push the idea it is an ignored epidemic.

>

> <snip>

> Kendra

>As to Mr. being " between a rock and a hard place " , This another example

of

business getting in the way truth (or atleast trying to prove a truth). I

understand GE is a

multibillion dollar conglomerate. But if he believes even slightly in the

mercury/vaccine

connection and he is getting pressure to not expose this... then sorry he is no

hero.

If he resigned his position and used his lucritive power to tout the need for

evironmental

research(including vaccines) that would be hero status to his grandson and the

whole

community, Craig

[Guest guest]

But vaccine injury program wont pay since there is no " proof " that

the vaccinces cause autism...yet. Autism isn't even on the list of

conditions it covers. I don't think anyone has one an autim case

yet, right??

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In my opinion Autism Speaks has hijacked the National

> Autism

> > > > > > movement and agenda. They throw themselves out there as

> > > > > > representative of the parent driven 'grandparent' driven

> > > > movement,

> > > > > > but they are not. They represent Big Money and Big Money

> > > > > > interests. There is nothing Grass Roots about Autism

> > Speaks.

> > > > They

> > > > > > talk about fair research fund distribution while they

give

> > > voice

> > > > to

> > > > > > those like Grinker, and pretend there is an honest

debate

> > > there,

> > > > > and

> > > > > > still no money for vaccine research.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I don't remember voting for them, I don't remember

giving

> > them

> > > > > > permission to steer the agenda from the real cause and

> > > potential

> > > > > > cures, and I don't remember them even freaking asking

me.

> > They

> > > > > > don't care and they don't have to, they can afford not

to.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Everyone feels like they have to find something positive

to

> > > say,

> > > > > why

> > > > > > I don't know, but they will point out 1) Yes they have

> taken

> > > > > control

> > > > > > over the national agenda 2) Yes they have taken control

of

> > > > > political

> > > > > > lobbying 3) Yes, they refuse to take a stand on the

vaccine

> > > > issue

> > > > > 4)

> > > > > > Yes they refuse to discuss biomedical intervention 5)

Yes,

> at

> > > > the

> > > > > > same time they secretly use it for their own children

(and

> > > > > > grandchildren) 6) Yes, they continue to throw funding

down

> > the

> > > > > > gentic theory rat hole 7) Yes, they refuse to fund real

> > > vaccine

> > > > or

> > > > > > environmental causes research 8) Yes, they refuse to

push

> the

> > > > idea

> > > > > > it is an ignored epidemic.

> > > > > > BUT THEY HAVE DONE A LOT FOR AWARENESS!

> > > > > > Does that really make up for all those other things.

They

> > have

> > > > ads

> > > > > > that state the obvious, what we already know and the CDC

> had

> > to

> > > > > > finally admit, that 1 in every 166 have Autism. In the

mean

> > > > time

> > > > > > they have stolen our voices, silenced our advances,

frozen

> > > years

> > > > of

> > > > > > progress that were starting to steamroll in the right

> > direction

> > > > > > before Autism Speaks came along. Us chronic conspiracy

> > > > theorists

> > > > > > might theorize that the s and their organization

were

> > > just

> > > > a

> > > > > > pharmaceutical plant from day one, and hey it's working.

> > > Before

> > > > > > Autism Speaks I felt like we were on a roller coaster

ride

> > and

> > > > > while

> > > > > > it sometime went up and sometimes down, we were moving

at a

> > > > pretty

> > > > > > good clip. Now I feel like I am on the spinning teacup

> ride,

> > > > and

> > > > > > it's about to make me vomit.

> > > > > > Screw awareness, Autism Speaks has hijacked the Autism

> > > > > Movement " for

> > > > > > the children and for the truth " . Now the question is how

to

> > > take

> > > > it

> > > > > > back.

> > > > > > Kendra

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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there are right now about(may be more now) 5,500 autism cases filed in Vaccine Court. On June 11, 2007 there will be a causation hearing at the Federal Court in DC to hear the cases. I would imagine they will use a couple of cases as examples. I plan to be there along with hundreds of other families(I hope) as least for the first few days. They espect it could last 2-4 weeks. anyone correct me if I am wrong. Maurinemarkautismcharge <mark.connolly.cgb5@...> wrote: But vaccine injury program wont pay since there is no "proof" that the vaccinces cause autism...yet. Autism isn't even on the list of conditions it covers. I don't think anyone has one an autim case yet, right??> > > > > >> > > > > > In my opinion Autism Speaks has hijacked the National > Autism > > > > > > movement and agenda. They throw themselves out there as > > > > > > representative of the parent driven 'grandparent' driven

> > > > movement, > > > > > > but they are not. They represent Big Money and Big Money > > > > > > interests. There is nothing Grass Roots about Autism > > Speaks. > > > > They > > > > > > talk about fair research fund distribution while they give > > > voice > > > > to > > > > > > those like Grinker, and pretend there is an honest debate > > > there, > > > > > and > > > > > > still no money for vaccine research.> > > > > > > > > > > > I don't remember voting for them, I don't remember giving > > them > > > > > > permission to steer the agenda from the real cause and > > > potential > > > > > > cures, and I don't remember them even freaking

asking me. > > They > > > > > > don't care and they don't have to, they can afford not to. > > > > > > > > > > > > Everyone feels like they have to find something positive to > > > say, > > > > > why > > > > > > I don't know, but they will point out 1) Yes they have > taken > > > > > control > > > > > > over the national agenda 2) Yes they have taken control of > > > > > political > > > > > > lobbying 3) Yes, they refuse to take a stand on the vaccine > > > > issue > > > > > 4) > > > > > > Yes they refuse to discuss biomedical intervention 5) Yes, > at > > > > the > > > > > > same time they secretly use it for their own children

(and > > > > > > grandchildren) 6) Yes, they continue to throw funding down > > the > > > > > > gentic theory rat hole 7) Yes, they refuse to fund real > > > vaccine > > > > or > > > > > > environmental causes research 8) Yes, they refuse to push > the > > > > idea > > > > > > it is an ignored epidemic.> > > > > > BUT THEY HAVE DONE A LOT FOR AWARENESS!> > > > > > Does that really make up for all those other things. They > > have > > > > ads > > > > > > that state the obvious, what we already know and the CDC > had > > to > > > > > > finally admit, that 1 in every 166 have Autism. In the mean > > > > time > > > > > > they have stolen our

voices, silenced our advances, frozen > > > years > > > > of > > > > > > progress that were starting to steamroll in the right > > direction > > > > > > before Autism Speaks came along. Us chronic conspiracy > > > > theorists > > > > > > might theorize that the s and their organization were > > > just > > > > a > > > > > > pharmaceutical plant from day one, and hey it's working. > > > Before > > > > > > Autism Speaks I felt like we were on a roller coaster ride > > and > > > > > while > > > > > > it sometime went up and sometimes down, we were moving at a > > > > pretty > > > > > > good clip. Now I feel like I am on the spinning teacup > ride, >

> > > and > > > > > > it's about to make me vomit.> > > > > > Screw awareness, Autism Speaks has hijacked the Autism > > > > > Movement "for > > > > > > the children and for the truth". Now the question is how to > > > take > > > > it > > > > > > back.> > > > > > Kendra> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------> Never miss an email again!> Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. Check it out.>

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,

Please understand, I was not defending Mr. 's choices merely

explaining with facts why he may have made certain choices regarding his

failure to publicly acknowledge the connection Thimerosal and his

grandson's " autism. "

For me personally, there is no job, power or amount of money that would

make me turn my back on what happened to my son. But I am not Bob

and not responsible for his choices. However, even though I

strongly disagree with his choices, I can at least intellectually

acknowledge some of the reasons (such as a legal fiduciary duty to GE

stockholders) behind HIS choices. I did not say I AGREED with his

choices nor has his choices earned him or AS my respect. I hope that

through his future choices that will change and I will keep the

invitation open if and when he wishes to use his money and influence to

truly help our mercury-poisoned children. I have not given up on him as

a human being I just remain skeptical about his willingness to TRULY

make a positive differnce for mercury-injured children by putting his

money at power to work towards a solution.

I certainly have never called him a hero as I have not personally viewed

any of his actions to be particularly heroic or praise-worthy in respect

to helping ALL " autistic " children getting the help they need to have

the highest quality of life and health. To me, Dr. Bernie Rimland was a

hero and Mr. , thus far, is certainly no Bernie Rimland, not even

in his league despite his wealth and power. However, I can acknowledge

his pain as a grandfather and hope he makes better choices in the future

regarding the best use of his wealth and influence.

Lujene

As to Mr. being " between a rock and a hard place " , This another

example of business getting in the way truth (or atleast trying to prove

a truth). I understand GE is a multibillion dollar conglomerate. But if

he believes even slightly in the mercury/vaccine connection and he is

getting pressure to not expose this... then sorry he is no hero.

If he resigned his position and used his lucritive power to tout the

need for evironmental research(including vaccines) that would be hero

status to his grandson and the whole community, Craig

[Guest guest]

Yes, they'll be making money from Thimerosal licenses until 2010?

Time will tell...

>

[Guest guest]

Lujene, This has nothing to do with what you or anyone else here wrote, but if one were to do a bit of "digging", interesting connections between General Electric and mercury may emerge.... http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/hac/PHA/grand/gsm_p1.html Aasa General Electric may have played a part in creating the Grand Steet Mercury Superfund Site in Hoboken, New Jersey. I also read that that they have done their part in fouling up the Hudson River, and do not want to participate in the cleanup. lujene_clark <lujene@...> wrote: ,Please understand, I was not defending Mr. 's choices merelyexplaining with facts why he may have made certain choices regarding hisfailure to publicly acknowledge the connection Thimerosal and hisgrandson's "autism."For me personally, there is no job, power or amount of money that wouldmake me turn my back on what happened to my son. But I am not Bob and not responsible for his choices. However, even though Istrongly disagree with his choices, I can at least intellectuallyacknowledge some of the reasons (such as a legal fiduciary duty to GEstockholders) behind HIS choices. I did not say I AGREED with hischoices nor has his choices earned him or AS my respect. I hope

thatthrough his future choices that will change and I will keep theinvitation open if and when he wishes to use his money and influence totruly help our mercury-poisoned children. I have not given up on him asa human being I just remain skeptical about his willingness to TRULYmake a positive differnce for mercury-injured children by putting hismoney at power to work towards a solution.I certainly have never called him a hero as I have not personally viewedany of his actions to be particularly heroic or praise-worthy in respectto helping ALL "autistic" children getting the help they need to havethe highest quality of life and health. To me, Dr. Bernie Rimland was ahero and Mr. , thus far, is certainly no Bernie Rimland, not evenin his league despite his wealth and power. However, I can acknowledgehis pain as a grandfather and hope he makes better choices in the futureregarding the best use of his wealth and

influence.LujeneAs to Mr. being" between a rock and a hard place", This anotherexample of business getting in the way truth (or atleast trying to provea truth). I understand GE is a multibillion dollar conglomerate. But ifhe believes even slightly in the mercury/vaccine connection and he isgetting pressure to not expose this... then sorry he is no hero.If he resigned his position and used his lucritive power to tout theneed for evironmental research(including vaccines) that would be herostatus to his grandson and the whole community, Craig

[Guest guest]

Here's another link related to 'GE Misdeeds': http://www.cleanupge.org/gemisdeeds.html . I find this eerie and interesting because I am in the midst of wading my way through Hooper's "The River", and today read pages 137 to 144. The Hanford incident was also mentioned in "The River", amongst those pages. AasaAasa <penas7ar@...> wrote: Lujene, This has

nothing to do with what you or anyone else here wrote, but if one were to do a bit of "digging", interesting connections between General Electric and mercury may emerge.... http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/hac/PHA/grand/gsm_p1.html Aasa General Electric may have played a part in creating the Grand Steet Mercury Superfund Site in Hoboken, New Jersey. I also read that that they have done their part in fouling up the Hudson River, and do not want to participate in the cleanup. lujene_clark <lujeneerworld> wrote: ,Please understand, I was not defending Mr. 's choices merelyexplaining with facts why he may have

made certain choices regarding hisfailure to publicly acknowledge the connection Thimerosal and hisgrandson's "autism."For me personally, there is no job, power or amount of money that wouldmake me turn my back on what happened to my son. But I am not Bob and not responsible for his choices. However, even though Istrongly disagree with his choices, I can at least intellectuallyacknowledge some of the reasons (such as a legal fiduciary duty to GEstockholders) behind HIS choices. I did not say I AGREED with hischoices nor has his choices earned him or AS my respect. I hope thatthrough his future choices that will change and I will keep theinvitation open if and when he wishes to use his money and influence totruly help our mercury-poisoned children. I have not given up on him asa human being I just remain skeptical about his willingness to TRULYmake a positive differnce for mercury-injured children by putting

hismoney at power to work towards a solution.I certainly have never called him a hero as I have not personally viewedany of his actions to be particularly heroic or praise-worthy in respectto helping ALL "autistic" children getting the help they need to havethe highest quality of life and health. To me, Dr. Bernie Rimland was ahero and Mr. , thus far, is certainly no Bernie Rimland, not evenin his league despite his wealth and power. However, I can acknowledgehis pain as a grandfather and hope he makes better choices in the futureregarding the best use of his wealth and influence.LujeneAs to Mr. being" between a rock and a hard place", This anotherexample of business getting in the way truth (or atleast trying to provea truth). I understand GE is a multibillion

dollar conglomerate. But ifhe believes even slightly in the mercury/vaccine connection and he isgetting pressure to not expose this... then sorry he is no hero.If he resigned his position and used his lucritive power to tout theneed for evironmental research(including vaccines) that would be herostatus to his grandson and the whole community, Craig

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>

> As to Mr. being " between a rock and a hard place " , This another

> example of business getting in the way truth (or atleast trying to prove

> a truth). I understand GE is a multibillion dollar conglomerate. But if

> he believes even slightly in the mercury/vaccine connection and he is

> getting pressure to not expose this... then sorry he is no hero.

>

> If he resigned his position and used his lucritive power to tout the

> need for evironmental research(including vaccines) that would be hero

> status to his grandson and the whole community, Craig

>

Lujene, thanks for the response, I am an angry armchair activist, but you

channel your

anger(I assume) to positive hard earned research please keep posting.

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A self-fulfilling prophesy... Autism is not

recognized by established medical heirarchy as a

vaccine adverse event. Therefore, no case of autism

are reported thru VAERs so as to qualify for NVICP.

Therefore any case filed in vaccine court should be

summarily dismissed with prejudice for being an

unsupported claim. Therefore the medical heirarchy is

vindicated that the NVICP process weeds out all the

fraudulant claims. Next case please.

Re: The Autism Movement has been Hijacked

Posted by: " markautismcharge "

mark.connolly.cgb5@... markautismcharge

Sat Jan 27, 2007 2:09 pm (PST)

But vaccine injury program wont pay since there is no

" proof " that the vaccinces cause autism...yet. Autism

isn't even on the list of conditions it covers. I

don't think anyone has one an autim case yet, right??

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It will be fascinating to see how corrupt and rotted the empire truly is.

If they can spend $1.2 trillion on a voluntary war in Iraq, and for them to then find no liability on the vaccines, is to put the empire in jeopardy.

We hope they find a way to do the right thing.

Re: Re: The Autism Movement has been Hijacked

there are right now about(may be more now) 5,500 autism cases filed in Vaccine Court. On June 11, 2007 there will be a causation hearing at the Federal Court in DC to hear the cases. I would imagine they will use a couple of cases as examples. I plan to be there along with hundreds of other families(I hope) as least for the first few days. They espect it could last 2-4 weeks. anyone correct me if I am wrong.

Maurinemarkautismcharge <mark.connolly.cgb5statefarm> wrote:

But vaccine injury program wont pay since there is no "proof" that the vaccinces cause autism...yet. Autism isn't even on the list of conditions it covers. I don't think anyone has one an autim case yet, right??> > > > > >> > > > > > In my opinion Autism Speaks has hijacked the National > Autism > > > > > > movement and agenda. They throw themselves out there as > > > > > > representative of the parent driven 'grandparent' driven > > > > movement, > > > > > > but they are not. They represent Big Money and Big Money > > > > > > interests. There is nothing Grass Roots about Autism > > Speaks. > > > > They > > > > > > talk about fair research fund distribution while they give > > > voice > > > > to > > > > > > those like Grinker, and pretend there is an honest debate > > > there, > > > > > and > > > > > > still no money for vaccine research.> > > > > > > > > > > > I don't remember voting for them, I don't remember giving > > them > > > > > > permission to steer the agenda from the real cause and > > > potential > > > > > > cures, and I don't remember them even freaking asking me. > > They > > > > > > don't care and they don't have to, they can afford not to. > > > > > > > > > > > > Everyone feels like they have to find something positive to > > > say, > > > > > why > > > > > > I don't know, but they will point out 1) Yes they have > taken > > > > > control > > > > > > over the national agenda 2) Yes they have taken control of > > > > > political > > > > > > lobbying 3) Yes, they refuse to take a stand on the vaccine > > > > issue > > > > > 4) > > > > > > Yes they refuse to discuss biomedical intervention 5) Yes, > at > > > > the > > > > > > same time they secretly use it for their own children (and > > > > > > grandchildren) 6) Yes, they continue to throw funding down > > the > > > > > > gentic theory rat hole 7) Yes, they refuse to fund real > > > vaccine > > > > or > > > > > > environmental causes research 8) Yes, they refuse to push > the > > > > idea > > > > > > it is an ignored epidemic.> > > > > > BUT THEY HAVE DONE A LOT FOR AWARENESS!> > > > > > Does that really make up for all those other things. They > > have > > > > ads > > > > > > that state the obvious, what we already know and the CDC > had > > to > > > > > > finally admit, that 1 in every 166 have Autism. In the mean > > > > time > > > > > > they have stolen our voices, silenced our advances, frozen > > > years > > > > of > > > > > > progress that were starting to steamroll in the right > > direction > > > > > > before Autism Speaks came along. Us chronic conspiracy > > > > theorists > > > > > > might theorize that the s and their organization were > > > just > > > > a > > > > > > pharmaceutical plant from day one, and hey it's working. > > > Before > > > > > > Autism Speaks I felt like we were on a roller coaster ride > > and > > > > > while > > > > > > it sometime went up and sometimes down, we were moving at a > > > > pretty > > > > > > good clip. Now I feel like I am on the spinning teacup > ride, > > > > and > > > > > > it's about to make me vomit.> > > > > > Screw awareness, Autism Speaks has hijacked the Autism > > > > > Movement "for > > > > > > the children and for the truth". Now the question is how to > > > take > > > > it > > > > > > back.> > > > > > Kendra> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------> Never miss an email again!> Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. Check it out.>

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The Hudson River debacle, was primarily PCB's.

Re: Re: The Autism Movement has been Hijacked

Lujene,

This has nothing to do with what you or anyone else here wrote, but if one were to do a bit of "digging", interesting connections between General Electric and mercury may emerge....

http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/hac/PHA/grand/gsm_p1.html

Aasa

General Electric may have played a part in creating the Grand Steet Mercury Superfund Site in Hoboken, New Jersey. I also read that that they have done their part in fouling up the Hudson River, and do not want to participate in the cleanup. lujene_clark <lujeneerworld> wrote:

,Please understand, I was not defending Mr. 's choices merelyexplaining with facts why he may have made certain choices regarding hisfailure to publicly acknowledge the connection Thimerosal and hisgrandson's "autism."For me personally, there is no job, power or amount of money that wouldmake me turn my back on what happened to my son. But I am not Bob and not responsible for his choices. However, even though Istrongly disagree with his choices, I can at least intellectuallyacknowledge some of the reasons (such as a legal fiduciary duty to GEstockholders) behind HIS choices. I did not say I AGREED with hischoices nor has his choices earned him or AS my respect. I hope thatthrough his future choices that will change and I will keep theinvitation open if and when he wishes to use his money and influence totruly help our mercury-poisoned children. I have not given up on him asa human being I just remain skeptical about his willingness to TRULYmake a positive differnce for mercury-injured children by putting hismoney at power to work towards a solution.I certainly have never called him a hero as I have not personally viewedany of his actions to be particularly heroic or praise-worthy in respectto helping ALL "autistic" children getting the help they need to havethe highest quality of life and health. To me, Dr. Bernie Rimland was ahero and Mr. , thus far, is certainly no Bernie Rimland, not evenin his league despite his wealth and power. However, I can acknowledgehis pain as a grandfather and hope he makes better choices in the futureregarding the best use of his wealth and influence.LujeneAs to Mr. being" between a rock and a hard place", This anotherexample of business getting in the way truth (or atleast trying to provea truth). I understand GE is a multibillion dollar conglomerate. But ifhe believes even slightly in the mercury/vaccine connection and he isgetting pressure to not expose this... then sorry he is no hero.If he resigned his position and used his lucritive power to tout theneed for evironmental research(including vaccines) that would be herostatus to his grandson and the whole community, Craig

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The genesis of the novel "Catch-22".

Re: The Autism Movement has been Hijacked

A self-fulfilling prophesy... Autism is notrecognized by established medical heirarchy as avaccine adverse event. Therefore, no case of autismare reported thru VAERs so as to qualify for NVICP. Therefore any case filed in vaccine court should besummarily dismissed with prejudice for being anunsupported claim. Therefore the medical heirarchy isvindicated that the NVICP process weeds out all thefraudulant claims. Next case please.Re: The Autism Movement has been Hijacked Posted by: "markautismcharge"mark.connolly.cgb5statefarm markautismcharge Sat Jan 27, 2007 2:09 pm (PST) But vaccine injury program wont pay since there is no"proof" that the vaccinces cause autism...yet. Autismisn't even on the list of conditions it covers. Idon't think anyone has one an autim case yet, right??__________________________________________________________Cheap talk?Check out Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates.http://voice.

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> Well, we still got AutismOne, SAFEMINDS, the NAA, F.A.I.R., A-CHAMP,

NoMercury,

> MomsAgainstMercury, DadsAgainstMercury, Generation Rescue, etc.

>

> Autism Speaks can't absorb all of us. (But if they wish to make fat

donations... hey hey!)

>

>

> FAIR Autism Media

> http://www.autismmedia.org/

SafeMinds has been awfully quiet.

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The term " biomedical " is being hijacked, as well.

I heard a psychologist say that antipsychotic medications were a form

of biomedical interventions. He does not believe in the mercury causation.

I think people need to be aware that not everyone has the same

understanding of the interpretation of what biomedical intervention

entails.

When responding to newspaper articles, blogs, etc., I really believe

it is important for us to not just throw the word biomedical

interventions around without attempting to explain and provide some

descriptive details of what is meant by biomedical interventions in

case some people are for the first time reading about biomedical

interventions (not that anyone here does that).

Personally, I don't believe we need more autism awareness, but more

awareness and education regarding biomedical interventions. For a

parent new to autism, or a parent just reading responses to an article

or blog that speaks about biomedical interventions in a general sense

– they may go back to their mainstream doc and be informed that

antipsychotic pharmaceuticals ARE what is meant by biomedical

interventions.

I just think it's important to remember that people and orgs. with

other agendas have been, and probably will increasingly be exploiting

the term " biomed " .

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Excellent point. The hijacking is pervasive and extends to

appropriation of language. We saw that at the celebration over the

approval of Risperdal as the first " autism " drug even though it does

nothing to treat autism. I will be mindful to always place " biomedical "

into the proper context and explain precisely what that means.

On Jan 29, 2007, at 2:25 PM, searchingforserenity111 wrote:

> The term " biomedical " is being hijacked, as well.

>

> I heard a psychologist say that antipsychotic medications were a form

> of biomedical interventions. He does not believe in the mercury

> causation.

>

> I think people need to be aware that not everyone has the same

> understanding of the interpretation of what biomedical intervention

> entails.

> When responding to newspaper articles, blogs, etc., I really believe

> it is important for us to not just throw the word biomedical

> interventions around without attempting to explain and provide some

> descriptive details of what is meant by biomedical interventions in

> case some people are for the first time reading about biomedical

> interventions (not that anyone here does that).

>

> Personally, I don't believe we need more autism awareness, but more

> awareness and education regarding biomedical interventions. For a

> parent new to autism, or a parent just reading responses to an article

> or blog that speaks about biomedical interventions in a general sense

> – they may go back to their mainstream doc and be informed that

> antipsychotic pharmaceuticals ARE what is meant by biomedical

> interventions.

>

> I just think it's important to remember that people and orgs. with

> other agendas have been, and probably will increasingly be exploiting

> the term " biomed " .

>

>

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