Guest guest Posted December 17, 2006 Report Share Posted December 17, 2006 Whoever operates on you will hopefully be a surgeon (and not a salesperson for a medical device manufacturer, which has happened in the past). As far as medical people are concerned, most surgeons are relatively neutral (noting the industry/professional bias) on the mercury vaccine issue compared with say, public health officials who vehemently deny any connection and pediatricians, who are simply in denial. There are many other issues upon which concern can be based, but mercury in surgery is not high on the list. If the person is a good surgeon and does a good job, what they think about mercury in vaccines is simply something to lobby them about (but only after the surgery is done). frightening thought It just dawned on me that if I get hurt and need surgery that the person that will operate on me probably would be stupid enough to stand before an audience and defend injecting mercury into infants and pregnant women for the greater good.My mind is having a hard time dealing with this insanity in the medical community. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2006 Report Share Posted December 17, 2006 I appreciate the reassurance but the people I find most resistant to discussing mercury and vaccine safety tend to be those in the medical community,I would like to think you are correct about surgeons being neutral.My point is that I consider it insane to defend injecting mercury into infants and pregnant woman so it is frightening to think that a person who is so mentally screwed up with that line of thinking would be making life and death decisions on my body!!!!!!!!! Re: frightening thought Posted by: " hcoleman " stratpat@... henrycoleman99 Sun Dec 17, 2006 3:33 am (PST) Whoever operates on you will hopefully be a surgeon (and not a salesperson for a medical device manufacturer, which has happened in the past). As far as medical people are concerned, most surgeons are relatively neutral (noting the industry/professional bias) on the mercury vaccine issue compared with say, public health officials who vehemently deny any connection and pediatricians, who are simply in denial. There are many other issues upon which concern can be based, but mercury in surgery is not high on the list. If the person is a good surgeon and does a good job, what they think about mercury in vaccines is simply something to lobby them about (but only after the surgery is done). frightening thought It just dawned on me that if I get hurt and need surgery that the person that will operate on me probably would be stupid enough to stand before an audience and defend injecting mercury into infants and pregnant women for the greater good.My mind is having a hard time dealing with this insanity in the medical community. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2006 Report Share Posted December 17, 2006 I appreciate the reassurance but the people I find most resistant to discussing mercury and vaccine safety tend to be those in the medical community,I would like to think you are correct about surgeons being neutral.My point is that I consider it insane to defend injecting mercury into infants and pregnant woman so it is frightening to think that a person who is so mentally screwed up with that line of thinking would be making life and death decisions on my body!!!!!!!!! Re: frightening thought Posted by: " hcoleman " stratpat@... henrycoleman99 Sun Dec 17, 2006 3:33 am (PST) Whoever operates on you will hopefully be a surgeon (and not a salesperson for a medical device manufacturer, which has happened in the past). As far as medical people are concerned, most surgeons are relatively neutral (noting the industry/professional bias) on the mercury vaccine issue compared with say, public health officials who vehemently deny any connection and pediatricians, who are simply in denial. There are many other issues upon which concern can be based, but mercury in surgery is not high on the list. If the person is a good surgeon and does a good job, what they think about mercury in vaccines is simply something to lobby them about (but only after the surgery is done). frightening thought It just dawned on me that if I get hurt and need surgery that the person that will operate on me probably would be stupid enough to stand before an audience and defend injecting mercury into infants and pregnant women for the greater good.My mind is having a hard time dealing with this insanity in the medical community. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2006 Report Share Posted December 17, 2006 http://www.newstarget.com/021295.htmlFDA panel on stent safety includes six doctors with strong financial ties to stent manufacturers; FDA waives ethics rulesThursday, December 14, 2006 by: Fraser`````The surgeon still may have a financial conflict of interest with a chosen surgical device he/she uses though. >> It just dawned on me that if I get hurt and need surgery that the > person that will operate on me probably would be stupid enough to stand > before an audience and defend injecting mercury into infants and > pregnant women for the greater good.My mind is having a hard time > dealing with this insanity in the medical community.> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2006 Report Share Posted December 17, 2006 Absolutely. And that is what drives this group for change. Perhaps it is not surprising that the medical profession was the last to abandon "bloodletting", the use of heavy metal antibiotics (arsenicals, etc. for syphillus and the like), and attacked Semmelweiss on the issue of sanitation in surgical practices mercilessly until they were forced to eventually say "nevermind" like Miss Litella (played by Gilda Radner on Saturday Night Live) when they were shown to be so wrong. Given that history, it should not be taken as a surprise that many in that profession are either in denial or exhibit a very closed, entrenched group think which has made the profession financially successful, but not open to change/common sense, when it comes to the use of toxic levels of mercury in vaccines. It's a very tough issue. I guess you just have to choose your battles accordingly and fight them when they matter (for example, when someone tries to force a thimeroal-containing flu vaccine into your arm) and let it be when an otherwise creative surgeon turns out to be am ignoramus on an issue which you find very important but will not be relevant to the care (or absence thereof) he/she provides. There are some very real idiot doctors, but also doctors who are quite exceptional. The best are those who are most open, the worst those who are closed minded. frightening thoughtIt just dawned on me that if I get hurt and need surgery that the person that will operate on me probably would be stupid enough to stand before an audience and defend injecting mercury into infants and pregnant women for the greater good.My mind is having a hard time dealing with this insanity in the medical community. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2006 Report Share Posted December 18, 2006 A surgeon will perform the procedure, but if you have a device implanted, like a hip joint or knee, a surgical rep. from the manufacturer will be in the OR to insure that the device is properly implanted. It helps to mitagate responsibility should there be problems later on. (you know, like if the surgoen should drop it on the floor before he implants it). Even with this safeguard in place one of our ortho doc.s put a hip in backwards. OOOPS!! Well the manufacturer wasn't at fault, but their rep. lost his job, for goofing off & not doing it. jbb > > Whoever operates on you will hopefully be a surgeon (and not a salesperson for a medical device manufacturer, which has happened in the past). As far as medical people are concerned, most surgeons are relatively neutral (noting the industry/professional bias) on the mercury vaccine issue compared with say, public health officials who vehemently deny any connection and pediatricians, who are simply in denial. > There are many other issues upon which concern can be based, but mercury in surgery is not high on the list. If the person is a good surgeon and does a good job, what they think about mercury in vaccines is simply something to lobby them about (but only after the surgery is done). > > frightening thought > > > It just dawned on me that if I get hurt and need surgery that the > person that will operate on me probably would be stupid enough to stand > before an audience and defend injecting mercury into infants and > pregnant women for the greater good.My mind is having a hard time > dealing with this insanity in the medical community. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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