Re: Let's Stop Whining About the CAA, Please!

[Guest guest]

I'll drink (Schlitz) to that! (hic)

>

> Let's Stop Whining About the CAA, Please!

>

> The CAA was designed by the Santorum/pharma interests and is being

> passed into law into the form it was always intended to have: more

> money for public health agency friendly " tobacco science " autism

> research, plus plenty of chunks of cash for non-threatening autism

> awareness programs designed to keep the larger autism organizations

> fat, complacent and co-opted.

>

> Bernie Rimland was right to point out that it was foolish to expect

> the perpetrators of the epidemics of chronic diseases to fund

research

> that would expose their own duplicity. Let us not mourn over the

> snakes who produce laws favoring snakes. But also let us forgive

our

> friends who were bedazzled by the snakes' rattles and charms.

>

> 1. The answer is to raise private money to fund the real relevant

and

> independent research.

> 2. Raise money for the legal and political defense of those

damaged by

> the pharma/government powers.

>

> We can continue to build an alliance of non-pharma-partisan groups

and

> individuals into a grass roots network. Autism Speaks has absorbed

the

> major status quo autism research funding organizations under one

> banner with a ten year spent-tens-of-millions, did-nothing legacy.

> They have left a terrible vaccuum for raising money for real

research

> and advocacy. We can fill that void. We have already started.

>

> Lenny

>

[Guest guest]

All whining aside, I think the skid mark comment was really

funny! :0)

Schlitz - the official beverage of Kennewick, Washington

>

> Let's Stop Whining About the CAA, Please!

>

> The CAA was designed by the Santorum/pharma interests and is being

> passed into law into the form it was always intended to have: more

> money for public health agency friendly " tobacco science " autism

> research, plus plenty of chunks of cash for non-threatening autism

> awareness programs designed to keep the larger autism organizations

> fat, complacent and co-opted.

>

> Bernie Rimland was right to point out that it was foolish to expect

> the perpetrators of the epidemics of chronic diseases to fund

research

> that would expose their own duplicity. Let us not mourn over the

> snakes who produce laws favoring snakes. But also let us forgive

our

> friends who were bedazzled by the snakes' rattles and charms.

>

> 1. The answer is to raise private money to fund the real relevant

and

> independent research.

> 2. Raise money for the legal and political defense of those

damaged by

> the pharma/government powers.

>

> We can continue to build an alliance of non-pharma-partisan groups

and

> individuals into a grass roots network. Autism Speaks has absorbed

the

> major status quo autism research funding organizations under one

> banner with a ten year spent-tens-of-millions, did-nothing legacy.

> They have left a terrible vaccuum for raising money for real

research

> and advocacy. We can fill that void. We have already started.

>

> Lenny

>

[Guest guest]

I bet your all too familiar with skid marks from pounding those

schlitz...:-?

> >

> > Let's Stop Whining About the CAA, Please!

> >

> > The CAA was designed by the Santorum/pharma interests and is

being

> > passed into law into the form it was always intended to have:

more

> > money for public health agency friendly " tobacco science " autism

> > research, plus plenty of chunks of cash for non-threatening

autism

> > awareness programs designed to keep the larger autism

organizations

> > fat, complacent and co-opted.

> >

> > Bernie Rimland was right to point out that it was foolish to

expect

> > the perpetrators of the epidemics of chronic diseases to fund

> research

> > that would expose their own duplicity. Let us not mourn over the

> > snakes who produce laws favoring snakes. But also let us

forgive

> our

> > friends who were bedazzled by the snakes' rattles and charms.

> >

> > 1. The answer is to raise private money to fund the real

relevant

> and

> > independent research.

> > 2. Raise money for the legal and political defense of those

> damaged by

> > the pharma/government powers.

> >

> > We can continue to build an alliance of non-pharma-partisan

groups

> and

> > individuals into a grass roots network. Autism Speaks has

absorbed

> the

> > major status quo autism research funding organizations under one

> > banner with a ten year spent-tens-of-millions, did-nothing

legacy.

> > They have left a terrible vaccuum for raising money for real

> research

> > and advocacy. We can fill that void. We have already started.

> >

> > Lenny

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Yeah - It's better than Metamucil and when you wake up, it's a whole

new week...

> > >

> > > Let's Stop Whining About the CAA, Please!

> > >

> > > The CAA was designed by the Santorum/pharma interests and is

> being

> > > passed into law into the form it was always intended to have:

> more

> > > money for public health agency friendly " tobacco science "

autism

> > > research, plus plenty of chunks of cash for non-threatening

> autism

> > > awareness programs designed to keep the larger autism

> organizations

> > > fat, complacent and co-opted.

> > >

> > > Bernie Rimland was right to point out that it was foolish to

> expect

> > > the perpetrators of the epidemics of chronic diseases to fund

> > research

> > > that would expose their own duplicity. Let us not mourn over

the

> > > snakes who produce laws favoring snakes. But also let us

> forgive

> > our

> > > friends who were bedazzled by the snakes' rattles and charms.

> > >

> > > 1. The answer is to raise private money to fund the real

> relevant

> > and

> > > independent research.

> > > 2. Raise money for the legal and political defense of those

> > damaged by

> > > the pharma/government powers.

> > >

> > > We can continue to build an alliance of non-pharma-partisan

> groups

> > and

> > > individuals into a grass roots network. Autism Speaks has

> absorbed

> > the

> > > major status quo autism research funding organizations under

one

> > > banner with a ten year spent-tens-of-millions, did-nothing

> legacy.

> > > They have left a terrible vaccuum for raising money for real

> > research

> > > and advocacy. We can fill that void. We have already started.

> > >

> > > Lenny

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Great points.

I'm in.

Let's Stop Whining About the CAA, Please!

Let's Stop Whining About the CAA, Please!The CAA was designed by the Santorum/pharma interests and is beingpassed into law into the form it was always intended to have: moremoney for public health agency friendly "tobacco science" autismresearch, plus plenty of chunks of cash for non-threatening autismawareness programs designed to keep the larger autism organizationsfat, complacent and co-opted. Bernie Rimland was right to point out that it was foolish to expectthe perpetrators of the epidemics of chronic diseases to fund researchthat would expose their own duplicity. Let us not mourn over thesnakes who produce laws favoring snakes. But also let us forgive ourfriends who were bedazzled by the snakes' rattles and charms.1. The answer is to raise private money to fund the real relevant andindependent research. 2. Raise money for the legal and political defense of those damaged bythe pharma/government powers.We can continue to build an alliance of non-pharma-partisan groups andindividuals into a grass roots network. Autism Speaks has absorbed themajor status quo autism research funding organizations under onebanner with a ten year spent-tens-of-millions, did-nothing legacy.They have left a terrible vaccuum for raising money for real researchand advocacy. We can fill that void. We have already started. Lenny

[Guest guest]

I thought Schlitz is Milwaukee beer?

> >

> > Let's Stop Whining About the CAA, Please!

> >

> > The CAA was designed by the Santorum/pharma interests and is being

> > passed into law into the form it was always intended to have:

more

> > money for public health agency friendly " tobacco science " autism

> > research, plus plenty of chunks of cash for non-threatening autism

> > awareness programs designed to keep the larger autism

organizations

> > fat, complacent and co-opted.

> >

> > Bernie Rimland was right to point out that it was foolish to

expect

> > the perpetrators of the epidemics of chronic diseases to fund

> research

> > that would expose their own duplicity. Let us not mourn over the

> > snakes who produce laws favoring snakes. But also let us forgive

> our

> > friends who were bedazzled by the snakes' rattles and charms.

> >

> > 1. The answer is to raise private money to fund the real relevant

> and

> > independent research.

> > 2. Raise money for the legal and political defense of those

> damaged by

> > the pharma/government powers.

> >

> > We can continue to build an alliance of non-pharma-partisan

groups

> and

> > individuals into a grass roots network. Autism Speaks has

absorbed

> the

> > major status quo autism research funding organizations under one

> > banner with a ten year spent-tens-of-millions, did-nothing legacy.

> > They have left a terrible vaccuum for raising money for real

> research

> > and advocacy. We can fill that void. We have already started.

> >

> > Lenny

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Schlitz is a malt liquor (not beer)... and is consumed in mass

quantities in many an Eastern Washington town, especially while

watching our regional sports teams lose big time.

> > >

> > > Let's Stop Whining About the CAA, Please!

> > >

> > > The CAA was designed by the Santorum/pharma interests and is

being

> > > passed into law into the form it was always intended to have:

> more

> > > money for public health agency friendly " tobacco science "

autism

> > > research, plus plenty of chunks of cash for non-threatening

autism

> > > awareness programs designed to keep the larger autism

> organizations

> > > fat, complacent and co-opted.

> > >

> > > Bernie Rimland was right to point out that it was foolish to

> expect

> > > the perpetrators of the epidemics of chronic diseases to fund

> > research

> > > that would expose their own duplicity. Let us not mourn over

the

> > > snakes who produce laws favoring snakes. But also let us

forgive

> > our

> > > friends who were bedazzled by the snakes' rattles and charms.

> > >

> > > 1. The answer is to raise private money to fund the real

relevant

> > and

> > > independent research.

> > > 2. Raise money for the legal and political defense of those

> > damaged by

> > > the pharma/government powers.

> > >

> > > We can continue to build an alliance of non-pharma-partisan

> groups

> > and

> > > individuals into a grass roots network. Autism Speaks has

> absorbed

> > the

> > > major status quo autism research funding organizations under

one

> > > banner with a ten year spent-tens-of-millions, did-nothing

legacy.

> > > They have left a terrible vaccuum for raising money for real

> > research

> > > and advocacy. We can fill that void. We have already started.

> > >

> > > Lenny

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Please. stop. really. the danger of this bill - besides that now

congress will send us packing for the next five years since we

already dipped into the well - is that our community will never come

together, never work together, never go forward until and unless the

issue of vaccines is put to rest, one way or another. we have this

enormous divide that we cannot get past.

Personally, i don't care if it's vaccines, or anything else, but

just PROVE IT or DISPROVE IT and let's move on. We can never go

forward until we resolve this.

So those who backed a bill with no environmental language, are

equally responsible for screwing this community and relegating us to

more years of bickering and unresolved issues and bipartisan crap.

Our kids and their futures are too important to keep this shit up.

How many more years, decades, are we all willing to tolerate this

divide? And what do we lose in the meantime? time. the one thing

that we can never get back. fuck the money, fuck the politics, fuck

the egos. Does this bill help my kids? no. Will it help yours?

no.

I didn't whine. I DID. I called, faxed, read, rewrote this piece

of shit legislation from the ground up. I walked the halls in DC. I

marched with signs in DC. I railed against it for over a year. I

cajoled, yelled, begged those orgs who supported the bill to no

avail. and here we still are, with a shit bill.

So Lenny, join me in a drink to what we've lost. Another shot at a

united community and years more of nothing on a federal level.

Holly

>

> Let's Stop Whining About the CAA, Please!

>

> The CAA was designed by the Santorum/pharma interests and is being

> passed into law into the form it was always intended to have: more

> money for public health agency friendly " tobacco science " autism

> research, plus plenty of chunks of cash for non-threatening autism

> awareness programs designed to keep the larger autism organizations

> fat, complacent and co-opted.

>

> Bernie Rimland was right to point out that it was foolish to expect

> the perpetrators of the epidemics of chronic diseases to fund

research

> that would expose their own duplicity. Let us not mourn over the

> snakes who produce laws favoring snakes. But also let us forgive

our

> friends who were bedazzled by the snakes' rattles and charms.

>

> 1. The answer is to raise private money to fund the real relevant

and

> independent research.

> 2. Raise money for the legal and political defense of those

damaged by

> the pharma/government powers.

>

> We can continue to build an alliance of non-pharma-partisan groups

and

> individuals into a grass roots network. Autism Speaks has absorbed

the

> major status quo autism research funding organizations under one

> banner with a ten year spent-tens-of-millions, did-nothing legacy.

> They have left a terrible vaccuum for raising money for real

research

> and advocacy. We can fill that void. We have already started.

>

> Lenny

>

[Guest guest]

I think Holly's already started drinking... Back in my drinking days

the more I had the more the f word came out.

Debi

[Guest guest]

Back in my drinking days, the more I had, the more I barfed...

>

[Guest guest]

Sounds like a real charming cultural experience

>

> Schlitz is a malt liquor (not beer)... and is consumed in mass

> quantities in many an Eastern Washington town, especially while

> watching our regional sports teams lose big time.

[Guest guest]

Yup - afterwards, we dab on a little petuli oil and go out for poetry

night at the local cowboy bar...

> >

> > Schlitz is a malt liquor (not beer)... and is consumed in mass

> > quantities in many an Eastern Washington town, especially while

> > watching our regional sports teams lose big time.

>

[Guest guest]

" Please. stop. really. the danger of this bill - besides that now

> congress will send us packing for the next five years since we

> already dipped into the well - is that our community will never

come

> together, never work together, never go forward until and unless

the

> issue of vaccines is put to rest, one way or another. we have

this

> enormous divide that we cannot get past. "

Holly, you don't know this is how it will all pan out. Below is an

excerpt from link to the bill. Looks like evironmental

research is in there to me. If you think they are going to put

something specific to vaccines in the bill come back to reality.

EXPANSION OF ACTIVITIES.—The Director

18 of NIH (in this section referred to as the `Director')

19 shall, subject to the availability of appropriations,

20 expand, intensify, and coordinate the activities of the

21 National Institutes of Health with respect to re22

search on autism spectrum disorder, including basic

23 and clinical research in fields including pathology,

24 developmental neurobiology, genetics, epigenetics,

25 pharmacology, nutrition, immunology,

26 neuroimmunology, neurobehavioral development, en-

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1 docrinology, gastroenterology, and toxicology. Such

2 research shall investigate the cause (including pos3

sible environmental causes), diagnosis or rule out,

4 early detection, prevention, services, supports, inter5

vention, and treatment of autism spectrum disorder.

> >

> > Let's Stop Whining About the CAA, Please!

> >

> > The CAA was designed by the Santorum/pharma interests and is

being

> > passed into law into the form it was always intended to have:

more

> > money for public health agency friendly " tobacco science " autism

> > research, plus plenty of chunks of cash for non-threatening

autism

> > awareness programs designed to keep the larger autism

organizations

> > fat, complacent and co-opted.

> >

> > Bernie Rimland was right to point out that it was foolish to

expect

> > the perpetrators of the epidemics of chronic diseases to fund

> research

> > that would expose their own duplicity. Let us not mourn over the

> > snakes who produce laws favoring snakes. But also let us

forgive

> our

> > friends who were bedazzled by the snakes' rattles and charms.

> >

> > 1. The answer is to raise private money to fund the real

relevant

> and

> > independent research.

> > 2. Raise money for the legal and political defense of those

> damaged by

> > the pharma/government powers.

> >

> > We can continue to build an alliance of non-pharma-partisan

groups

> and

> > individuals into a grass roots network. Autism Speaks has

absorbed

> the

> > major status quo autism research funding organizations under one

> > banner with a ten year spent-tens-of-millions, did-nothing

legacy.

> > They have left a terrible vaccuum for raising money for real

> research

> > and advocacy. We can fill that void. We have already started.

> >

> > Lenny

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I don't post here often, but I read all the digests I get and try to keep up with the discussions. I would like to add to what Lenny said about not whining over the passage of the CAA. It was a bogus bill to start with and the outcome was as predictable as a Chicago election.

I agree that the ONLY way the autism community will get satisfaction in determining the extent of environmental sources contributing to the autism pandemic is to fund the research ourselves. I'm sure there are HONEST dedicated competent scientists eager to be funded by private groups. I would like to suggest A-Champ start to identify these scientists, and raise some money for them.

The pharmaceutical companies and the pediatricians will NEVER admit they play a huge part in this. We can't really blame them for screwing up in the first place. They are under the illusion that they are the smartest people in the world. We can certainly blame them for covering up, though. Covering their tracks exposed them for the fools they really are.

I've spent over 25 years supplying materials to the scientific and medical community. The vast overwhelming majority of people in these industries that I've spoken to in the eight years since my son's diagnosis have agreed that lacing vaccines with mercury, aluminum and all the other assorted crap, and then forcing an ever increasing number of injections on an unsuspecting public is fundamentally stupid, if not criminal.

I think that after A-Champ funds the research, they need to raise money to buy some real autism friendly politicians and then we can really raise a ruckus. Where do I send my check?

Harry Hofherr

[Guest guest]

Go to www.achamp.org and click on the " donate' button.

Thanks,

>

>

> I don't post here often, but I read all the digests I get and try

to keep up

> with the discussions. I would like to add to what Lenny said about

not

> whining over the passage of the CAA. It was a bogus bill to start

with and the

> outcome was as predictable as a Chicago election.

>

> I agree that the ONLY way the autism community will get

satisfaction in

> determining the extent of environmental sources contributing to

the autism

> pandemic is to fund the research ourselves. I'm sure there are

HONEST dedicated

> competent scientists eager to be funded by private groups. I

would like to

> suggest A-Champ start to identify these scientists, and raise

some money for them.

>

> The pharmaceutical companies and the pediatricians will NEVER

admit they

> play a huge part in this. We can't really blame them for screwing

up in the

> first place. They are under the illusion that they are the

smartest people in the

> world. We can certainly blame them for covering up, though.

Covering their

> tracks exposed them for the fools they really are.

>

> I've spent over 25 years supplying materials to the scientific

and medical

> community. The vast overwhelming majority of people in these

industries that

> I've spoken to in the eight years since my son's diagnosis have

agreed that

> lacing vaccines with mercury, aluminum and all the other assorted

crap, and

> then forcing an ever increasing number of injections on an

unsuspecting public

> is fundamentally stupid, if not criminal.

>

> I think that after A-Champ funds the research, they need to raise

money to

> buy some real autism friendly politicians and then we can really

raise a

> ruckus. Where do I send my check?

>

> Harry Hofherr

>

[Guest guest]

I read most of " The Virus and The Vaccine " and they talked about

nation-wide fundraising on local levels for polio help. I think they

had balls or something like that in every major city on the same

night, same month. If we could get A-Champ or whom ever to help

organize something like that, we could raise some funds, I think. I

know our local autism org has a fund just for research. I know a few

board members <wink> who would consider donating.

Good ole Al was talking about having a video party around the country

for some tree-hugging something or another. We could do that with

autism, have some sort of in-home party, invite friends & family to

attend, watch a video, donate money. We could team up with some home

party group like tupperware, mary kay, etc. There are all sorts of

ideas out there. I know it doesn't sound like much, but if 10 parties

in one town yield $1000 or so and we do it across the country in

hundreds of towns, we're looking at some good starting funds.

Our country was founded on a group of people willing to buck the

system to make things better. I think the autism community ourselves

have a lot of those people. Waiting on the gov for anything is the

least we need to do.

Debi

>

>

> I don't post here often, but I read all the digests I get and try to

keep up

> with the discussions. I would like to add to what Lenny said about not

> whining over the passage of the CAA. It was a bogus bill to start

with and the

> outcome was as predictable as a Chicago election.

>

> I agree that the ONLY way the autism community will get satisfaction

in

> determining the extent of environmental sources contributing to the

autism

> pandemic is to fund the research ourselves. I'm sure there are

HONEST dedicated

> competent scientists eager to be funded by private groups. I would

like to

> suggest A-Champ start to identify these scientists, and raise some

money for them.

>

> The pharmaceutical companies and the pediatricians will NEVER admit

they

> play a huge part in this. We can't really blame them for screwing up

in the

> first place. They are under the illusion that they are the smartest

people in the

> world. We can certainly blame them for covering up, though.

Covering their

> tracks exposed them for the fools they really are.

>

> I've spent over 25 years supplying materials to the scientific and

medical

> community. The vast overwhelming majority of people in these

industries that

> I've spoken to in the eight years since my son's diagnosis have

agreed that

> lacing vaccines with mercury, aluminum and all the other assorted

crap, and

> then forcing an ever increasing number of injections on an

unsuspecting public

> is fundamentally stupid, if not criminal.

>

> I think that after A-Champ funds the research, they need to raise

money to

> buy some real autism friendly politicians and then we can really

raise a

> ruckus. Where do I send my check?

>

> Harry Hofherr

>

[Guest guest]

I read most of " The Virus and The Vaccine " and they talked about

nation-wide fundraising on local levels for polio help. I think they

had balls or something like that in every major city on the same

night, same month. If we could get A-Champ or whom ever to help

organize something like that, we could raise some funds, I think. I

know our local autism org has a fund just for research. I know a few

board members <wink> who would consider donating.

Good ole Al was talking about having a video party around the country

for some tree-hugging something or another. We could do that with

autism, have some sort of in-home party, invite friends & family to

attend, watch a video, donate money. We could team up with some home

party group like tupperware, mary kay, etc. There are all sorts of

ideas out there. I know it doesn't sound like much, but if 10 parties

in one town yield $1000 or so and we do it across the country in

hundreds of towns, we're looking at some good starting funds.

Our country was founded on a group of people willing to buck the

system to make things better. I think the autism community ourselves

have a lot of those people. Waiting on the gov for anything is the

least we need to do.

Debi

>

>

> I don't post here often, but I read all the digests I get and try to

keep up

> with the discussions. I would like to add to what Lenny said about not

> whining over the passage of the CAA. It was a bogus bill to start

with and the

> outcome was as predictable as a Chicago election.

>

> I agree that the ONLY way the autism community will get satisfaction

in

> determining the extent of environmental sources contributing to the

autism

> pandemic is to fund the research ourselves. I'm sure there are

HONEST dedicated

> competent scientists eager to be funded by private groups. I would

like to

> suggest A-Champ start to identify these scientists, and raise some

money for them.

>

> The pharmaceutical companies and the pediatricians will NEVER admit

they

> play a huge part in this. We can't really blame them for screwing up

in the

> first place. They are under the illusion that they are the smartest

people in the

> world. We can certainly blame them for covering up, though.

Covering their

> tracks exposed them for the fools they really are.

>

> I've spent over 25 years supplying materials to the scientific and

medical

> community. The vast overwhelming majority of people in these

industries that

> I've spoken to in the eight years since my son's diagnosis have

agreed that

> lacing vaccines with mercury, aluminum and all the other assorted

crap, and

> then forcing an ever increasing number of injections on an

unsuspecting public

> is fundamentally stupid, if not criminal.

>

> I think that after A-Champ funds the research, they need to raise

money to

> buy some real autism friendly politicians and then we can really

raise a

> ruckus. Where do I send my check?

>

> Harry Hofherr

>

[Guest guest]

Harry, thanks for your comments. I think you are right on the money.

As a matter of fact, watch in the next few days for an exciting

announcement from the Friends of A-CHAMP Research and Education

Project, Inc. regarding our Alan D. , M.D. Memorial Research Fund

and an exciting scientific research project that we are supporting.

I think you will find it interesting and pointed in the right direction.

We are absolutely not whining about CAA - we are moving on to more

important things that will truly help our kids.

Bob Krakow

On Dec 7, 2006, at 12:03 AM, hhofher@... wrote:

 

I don't post here often, but I read all the digests I get and try to

keep up with the discussions. I would like to add to what Lenny said

about not whining over the passage of the CAA. It was a bogus bill to

start with and the outcome was as predictable as a Chicago election. 

 

I agree that the ONLY way the autism community will get satisfaction in

determining the extent of environmental sources contributing to the

autism pandemic is to fund the research ourselves. I'm sure there are

HONEST dedicated competent scientists eager to be funded by private

groups. I would like to suggest A-Champ start to identify these

scientists, and raise some money for them.

 

The pharmaceutical companies and the pediatricians will NEVER admit

they play a huge part in this. We can't really blame them for screwing

up in the first place. They are under the illusion that they are the

smartest people in the world. We can certainly blame them for covering

up, though. Covering their tracks exposed them for the fools they

really are.

 

I've spent over 25 years supplying materials to the scientific and

medical community. The vast overwhelming majority of people in these

industries that I've spoken to in the eight years since my son's

diagnosis have agreed that lacing vaccines with mercury, aluminum and

all the other assorted crap, and then forcing an ever increasing number

of injections on an unsuspecting public is fundamentally stupid, if not

criminal.

 

I think that after A-Champ funds the research, they need to raise money

to buy some real autism friendly politicians and then we can really

raise a ruckus. Where do I send my check?

 

Harry Hofherr

[Guest guest]

Harry, thanks for your comments. I think you are right on the money.

As a matter of fact, watch in the next few days for an exciting

announcement from the Friends of A-CHAMP Research and Education

Project, Inc. regarding our Alan D. , M.D. Memorial Research Fund

and an exciting scientific research project that we are supporting.

I think you will find it interesting and pointed in the right direction.

We are absolutely not whining about CAA - we are moving on to more

important things that will truly help our kids.

Bob Krakow

On Dec 7, 2006, at 12:03 AM, hhofher@... wrote:

 

I don't post here often, but I read all the digests I get and try to

keep up with the discussions. I would like to add to what Lenny said

about not whining over the passage of the CAA. It was a bogus bill to

start with and the outcome was as predictable as a Chicago election. 

 

I agree that the ONLY way the autism community will get satisfaction in

determining the extent of environmental sources contributing to the

autism pandemic is to fund the research ourselves. I'm sure there are

HONEST dedicated competent scientists eager to be funded by private

groups. I would like to suggest A-Champ start to identify these

scientists, and raise some money for them.

 

The pharmaceutical companies and the pediatricians will NEVER admit

they play a huge part in this. We can't really blame them for screwing

up in the first place. They are under the illusion that they are the

smartest people in the world. We can certainly blame them for covering

up, though. Covering their tracks exposed them for the fools they

really are.

 

I've spent over 25 years supplying materials to the scientific and

medical community. The vast overwhelming majority of people in these

industries that I've spoken to in the eight years since my son's

diagnosis have agreed that lacing vaccines with mercury, aluminum and

all the other assorted crap, and then forcing an ever increasing number

of injections on an unsuspecting public is fundamentally stupid, if not

criminal.

 

I think that after A-Champ funds the research, they need to raise money

to buy some real autism friendly politicians and then we can really

raise a ruckus. Where do I send my check?

 

Harry Hofherr

[Guest guest]

Thank you for having the courage to stand on principle when it was needed.

I am proud of the people who publicly rejected supporting this bill.

They were concerned about fragmenting relationships throughout many autism

organizations. The lack of effective coalition building, communication, parental

advocacy,

organization and shoe string budgets are major reasons for us getting a bad

bill. I

appreciate the integrity and dedication of the many organizations that supported

this bill.

I am confused about seeing these groups advocate with great energy for

environmental/

vaccine issues and support this bill. It is critical that the organizations

that supported this

bill explain their position on the lack of environmental funding and why the

bill deserved

their support. This would make for some great presentations with a Q and A at

the next

DAN, AutismOne, or Autismfair type events. Failure to do so will further damage

our

ability to advocate effectively for our children. This debate within our

community needs to

happen. I hope we can have it without personal attacks and emerge stronger. I

know

many are laughing at that. We have been dealt a severe blow with the passage of

this bill.

I have read the language, consulted with many bright people on both sides and

formed a

position based on principle and not false hope of what might happen in

appropriations or

that the new congress is going to embrace autism. We should push for press

statements /

Interviews from Maloney, Burton, Weldon, , Clinton, Schumer, Ted Kennedy,

Leiberman, McCain and many others. Sorry about the whining!

> >

> >

> > I don't post here often, but I read all the digests I get and try

> to keep up

> > with the discussions. I would like to add to what Lenny said about

> not

> > whining over the passage of the CAA. It was a bogus bill to start

> with and the

> > outcome was as predictable as a Chicago election.

> >

> > I agree that the ONLY way the autism community will get

> satisfaction in

> > determining the extent of environmental sources contributing to

> the autism

> > pandemic is to fund the research ourselves. I'm sure there are

> HONEST dedicated

> > competent scientists eager to be funded by private groups. I

> would like to

> > suggest A-Champ start to identify these scientists, and raise

> some money for them.

> >

> > The pharmaceutical companies and the pediatricians will NEVER

> admit they

> > play a huge part in this. We can't really blame them for screwing

> up in the

> > first place. They are under the illusion that they are the

> smartest people in the

> > world. We can certainly blame them for covering up, though.

> Covering their

> > tracks exposed them for the fools they really are.

> >

> > I've spent over 25 years supplying materials to the scientific

> and medical

> > community. The vast overwhelming majority of people in these

> industries that

> > I've spoken to in the eight years since my son's diagnosis have

> agreed that

> > lacing vaccines with mercury, aluminum and all the other assorted

> crap, and

> > then forcing an ever increasing number of injections on an

> unsuspecting public

> > is fundamentally stupid, if not criminal.

> >

> > I think that after A-Champ funds the research, they need to raise

> money to

> > buy some real autism friendly politicians and then we can really

> raise a

> > ruckus. Where do I send my check?

> >

> > Harry Hofherr

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Clarification from 's post below:

To donate to A-CHAMP for their political action and coalition building efforts then by all means click on the donate button on the A-CHAMP site as instructed. That is certainly a worthwhile endeavor.

However, if you wish to donate for research, then it must be done through The Friends of A-CHAMP Research and Education Project, which is an authorized 501©3, non-profit organization separate but complimentary of A-CHAMP (one can engage in politic activities and one is a non-profit for research and education purposes) which has been chosen to administer the Alan D. , M.D. Memorial Research Fund.

Dr. Alan , the late husband of A-CHAMP founding Board Member Lujene , passed away on February 7, 2006. One of his final wishes was to see his work continue regarding the dangers of mercury in vaccines. It was in his honor, and as his legacy, that this fund was established to continue Alan's endeavors on behalf of children worldwide.The Alan D. , M.D. Memorial Research Fund was established by his wife, Lujene, to provide grants to physicians and researchers striving to prevent, protect and reverse the devastating effects of mercury, particularly when used in medicine. The fund will be administered through The Friends of A-CHAMP Research and Education Project.Donations may be made to The Alan D. , M.D. Memorial Research Fund, c/o US Bank, 2208 S. Grand Avenue, Carthage, Missouri 64836.

Currently donations can be made by check but we anticipate having the ability to donate via the web within the next few days.

Additionally, the community can expect an exciting announcement about the awarding of the first research grant within the next few days.

Thank you.

Lujene

> >> > > > I don't post here often, but I read all the digests I get and try > to keep up > > with the discussions. I would like to add to what Lenny said about > not > > whining over the passage of the CAA. It was a bogus bill to start > with and the > > outcome was as predictable as a Chicago election. > > > > I agree that the ONLY way the autism community will get > satisfaction in > > determining the extent of environmental sources contributing to > the autism > > pandemic is to fund the research ourselves. I'm sure there are > HONEST dedicated > > competent scientists eager to be funded by private groups. I > would like to > > suggest A-Champ start to identify these scientists, and raise > some money for them. > > > > The pharmaceutical companies and the pediatricians will NEVER > admit they > > play a huge part in this. We can't really blame them for screwing > up in the > > first place. They are under the illusion that they are the > smartest people in the > > world. We can certainly blame them for covering up, though. > Covering their > > tracks exposed them for the fools they really are. > > > > I've spent over 25 years supplying materials to the scientific > and medical > > community. The vast overwhelming majority of people in these > industries that > > I've spoken to in the eight years since my son's diagnosis have > agreed that > > lacing vaccines with mercury, aluminum and all the other assorted > crap, and > > then forcing an ever increasing number of injections on an > unsuspecting public > > is fundamentally stupid, if not criminal. > > > > I think that after A-Champ funds the research, they need to raise > money to > > buy some real autism friendly politicians and then we can really > raise a > > ruckus. Where do I send my check?> > > > Harry Hofherr> >>

[Guest guest]

Clarification from 's post below:

To donate to A-CHAMP for their political action and coalition building efforts then by all means click on the donate button on the A-CHAMP site as instructed. That is certainly a worthwhile endeavor.

However, if you wish to donate for research, then it must be done through The Friends of A-CHAMP Research and Education Project, which is an authorized 501©3, non-profit organization separate but complimentary of A-CHAMP (one can engage in politic activities and one is a non-profit for research and education purposes) which has been chosen to administer the Alan D. , M.D. Memorial Research Fund.

Dr. Alan , the late husband of A-CHAMP founding Board Member Lujene , passed away on February 7, 2006. One of his final wishes was to see his work continue regarding the dangers of mercury in vaccines. It was in his honor, and as his legacy, that this fund was established to continue Alan's endeavors on behalf of children worldwide.The Alan D. , M.D. Memorial Research Fund was established by his wife, Lujene, to provide grants to physicians and researchers striving to prevent, protect and reverse the devastating effects of mercury, particularly when used in medicine. The fund will be administered through The Friends of A-CHAMP Research and Education Project.Donations may be made to The Alan D. , M.D. Memorial Research Fund, c/o US Bank, 2208 S. Grand Avenue, Carthage, Missouri 64836.

Currently donations can be made by check but we anticipate having the ability to donate via the web within the next few days.

Additionally, the community can expect an exciting announcement about the awarding of the first research grant within the next few days.

Thank you.

Lujene

> >> > > > I don't post here often, but I read all the digests I get and try > to keep up > > with the discussions. I would like to add to what Lenny said about > not > > whining over the passage of the CAA. It was a bogus bill to start > with and the > > outcome was as predictable as a Chicago election. > > > > I agree that the ONLY way the autism community will get > satisfaction in > > determining the extent of environmental sources contributing to > the autism > > pandemic is to fund the research ourselves. I'm sure there are > HONEST dedicated > > competent scientists eager to be funded by private groups. I > would like to > > suggest A-Champ start to identify these scientists, and raise > some money for them. > > > > The pharmaceutical companies and the pediatricians will NEVER > admit they > > play a huge part in this. We can't really blame them for screwing > up in the > > first place. They are under the illusion that they are the > smartest people in the > > world. We can certainly blame them for covering up, though. > Covering their > > tracks exposed them for the fools they really are. > > > > I've spent over 25 years supplying materials to the scientific > and medical > > community. The vast overwhelming majority of people in these > industries that > > I've spoken to in the eight years since my son's diagnosis have > agreed that > > lacing vaccines with mercury, aluminum and all the other assorted > crap, and > > then forcing an ever increasing number of injections on an > unsuspecting public > > is fundamentally stupid, if not criminal. > > > > I think that after A-Champ funds the research, they need to raise > money to > > buy some real autism friendly politicians and then we can really > raise a > > ruckus. Where do I send my check?> > > > Harry Hofherr> >>

[Guest guest]

If you wish to support A-CHAMP's research agenda then it must be done through The Friends of A-CHAMP Research and Education Project, Inc., which is an authorized 501©3, non-profit organization separate but complimentary of A-CHAMP (one can engage in politic activities and one is a non-profit for research and education purposes). The Friends of A-CHAMP Research and Education Project, Inc. has been chosen to administer the Alan D. , M.D. Memorial Research Fund.

Dr. Alan , the late husband of A-CHAMP founding Board Member Lujene , passed away on February 7, 2006. One of his final wishes was to see his work continue regarding the dangers of mercury in vaccines. It was in his honor, and as his legacy, that this fund was established to continue Alan's endeavors on behalf of children worldwide.The Alan D. , M.D. Memorial Research Fund was established by his wife, Lujene, to provide grants to physicians and researchers striving to prevent, protect and reverse the devastating effects of mercury, particularly when used in medicine. As previously stated, the fund will be administered through The Friends of A-CHAMP Research and Education Project.Donations may be made to The Alan D. , M.D. Memorial Research Fund, c/o US Bank, 2208 S. Grand Avenue, Carthage, Missouri 64836.

Currently donations can be made by check but we anticipate having the ability to donate via the web within the next few days.

Additionally, the community can expect an exciting announcement about the awarding of the first research grant within the next few days.

Thank you.

Lujene > >> > > > I don't post here often, but I read all the digests I get and try to> keep up > > with the discussions. I would like to add to what Lenny said about not > > whining over the passage of the CAA. It was a bogus bill to start> with and the > > outcome was as predictable as a Chicago election. > > > > I agree that the ONLY way the autism community will get satisfaction> in > > determining the extent of environmental sources contributing to the> autism > > pandemic is to fund the research ourselves. I'm sure there are> HONEST dedicated > > competent scientists eager to be funded by private groups. I would> like to > > suggest A-Champ start to identify these scientists, and raise some> money for them. > > > > The pharmaceutical companies and the pediatricians will NEVER admit> they > > play a huge part in this. We can't really blame them for screwing up> in the > > first place. They are under the illusion that they are the smartest> people in the > > world. We can certainly blame them for covering up, though. > Covering their > > tracks exposed them for the fools they really are. > > > > I've spent over 25 years supplying materials to the scientific and > medical > > community. The vast overwhelming majority of people in these > industries that > > I've spoken to in the eight years since my son's diagnosis have > agreed that > > lacing vaccines with mercury, aluminum and all the other assorted > crap, and > > then forcing an ever increasing number of injections on an > unsuspecting public > > is fundamentally stupid, if not criminal. > > > > I think that after A-Champ funds the research, they need to raise> money to > > buy some real autism friendly politicians and then we can really> raise a > > ruckus. Where do I send my check?> > > > Harry Hofherr> >>

[Guest guest]

It would be interesting to see Clinton's interview given that she was instrumental in lobbying for and heping administer the mandatory vaccine program- yeah, the one that poisoned all of our kids.

Re: Let's Stop Whining About the CAA, Please!

Thank you for having the courage to stand on principle when it was needed.I am proud of the people who publicly rejected supporting this bill.They were concerned about fragmenting relationships throughout many autism organizations. The lack of effective coalition building, communication, parental advocacy, organization and shoe string budgets are major reasons for us getting a bad bill. I appreciate the integrity and dedication of the many organizations that supported this bill.I am confused about seeing these groups advocate with great energy for environmental/ vaccine issues and support this bill. It is critical that the organizations that supported this bill explain their position on the lack of environmental funding and why the bill deserved their support. This would make for some great presentations with a Q and A at the next DAN, AutismOne, or Autismfair type events. Failure to do so will further damage our ability to advocate effectively for our children. This debate within our community needs to happen. I hope we can have it without personal attacks and emerge stronger. I know many are laughing at that. We have been dealt a severe blow with the passage of this bill. I have read the language, consulted with many bright people on both sides and formed a position based on principle and not false hope of what might happen in appropriations or that the new congress is going to embrace autism. We should push for press statements / Interviews from Maloney, Burton, Weldon, , Clinton, Schumer, Ted Kennedy, Leiberman, McCain and many others. Sorry about the whining! > >> > > > I don't post here often, but I read all the digests I get and try > to keep up > > with the discussions. I would like to add to what Lenny said about > not > > whining over the passage of the CAA. It was a bogus bill to start > with and the > > outcome was as predictable as a Chicago election. > > > > I agree that the ONLY way the autism community will get > satisfaction in > > determining the extent of environmental sources contributing to > the autism > > pandemic is to fund the research ourselves. I'm sure there are > HONEST dedicated > > competent scientists eager to be funded by private groups. I > would like to > > suggest A-Champ start to identify these scientists, and raise > some money for them. > > > > The pharmaceutical companies and the pediatricians will NEVER > admit they > > play a huge part in this. We can't really blame them for screwing > up in the > > first place. They are under the illusion that they are the > smartest people in the > > world. We can certainly blame them for covering up, though. > Covering their > > tracks exposed them for the fools they really are. > > > > I've spent over 25 years supplying materials to the scientific > and medical > > community. The vast overwhelming majority of people in these > industries that > > I've spoken to in the eight years since my son's diagnosis have > agreed that > > lacing vaccines with mercury, aluminum and all the other assorted > crap, and > > then forcing an ever increasing number of injections on an > unsuspecting public > > is fundamentally stupid, if not criminal. > > > > I think that after A-Champ funds the research, they need to raise > money to > > buy some real autism friendly politicians and then we can really > raise a > > ruckus. Where do I send my check?> > > > Harry Hofherr> >>

[Guest guest]

Bob,

Is A-CHAMP still going to follow the

money of the CAA to see where the funds are being allocated and for which

studies? -

From: EOHarm

[mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of

Krakow

Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006

12:55 AM

EOHarm

Subject: Re: Re: Let's

Stop Whining About the CAA, Please!

Harry, thanks for your comments. I think you are right on the money.

As a matter of fact, watch in the next few days for an exciting announcement

from the Friends of A-CHAMP Research and Education Project, Inc. regarding our

Alan D. , M.D. Memorial Research Fund and an exciting scientific research

project that we are supporting.

I think you will find it interesting and pointed in the right direction.

We are absolutely not whining about CAA - we are moving on to more important

things that will truly help our kids.

Bob Krakow

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