Guest guest Posted July 1, 2006 Report Share Posted July 1, 2006 Hello We as parents of Mercury Poisoned children constantly make efforts to make the public aware of what the vaccines have done to our children. As we stood on the sidewalk in from of the CDC a man approach us and asked why do we feel that our children's Autism was caused by the vaccine. As we talked and another parent offered very good scientific based info this man listened carefully but seemed not to hear. He continued to speak of Autism. After about 10 min he wished us well and said " Good luck with your children " . When I watched the news that night I was surprised to see this same man on TV. He is Tom Skinner, spokesperson for the CDC. He said " We at the CDC just don't know what causes Autism " . I think we need to assess how we present our children's toxic state to the public. Autism has no apparent cause and no cure. We know what is wrong with our children and as we continue to bang on the doors of the CDC we may want to consider calling it what it is. The signs with the childrens pictures on them seem to stop the cars I noticed. People will read a sign/paper with a picture of a child. I was thinking if we can join efforts and make flyers of our own children (no names) with maybe a copy of a lab test showing mercury levels, and a caption that says something like " My child was mercury poisoned by his vaccines, request mercury free " . Pass these out at our own convience, at playgrounds, leave one in the grocery cart etc... we can reach other parents. Please send one to the CDC Tom Skinner CDC/Press Office 1600 Clifton Rd Atl Ga 30333 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 1, 2006 Report Share Posted July 1, 2006 Twins can have separate health issues. One could have diabetes and one not. I am not attacking you, please don't think that I am, but you could use the same argument on the one that is "advanced". Why is she advanced? Even if the one didn't have autism, the other would still be advanced. Why the difference?I didn't think my son's autism had anything to do with mercury. I was told that it was taken out before he received his vaccines in 2001. I even went to a web site that tells you how much mercury was in your child's vaccines. It said "none". I thought my son's problem would be from yeast overgrowth since he was on so many antibiotics for ear infections. Then I went to the Great Plains Clinic in Atlanta in April and saw Dr. West. We did a lot of testing. I expected the yeast to be sky high! After all, he had been on antibiotics 15 times! 12 in one year alone. Turns out, he did have yeast, but only 1+. I expected more. Then I got his heavy metals test. His aluminum, arsenic, antimony,tin, uranium, magnesium and zirconium were all high. The aluminum was extremely high. All the suggested places that he could have gotten this didn't apply to him. Yet there is aluminum in vaccines. Dr. West said that the body can focus on getting these metals out and leave the others (mercury, lead, etc) behind. So once we get rid of the yeast and gut inflammation that showed up on this test (measles?) then we can start chelating. I am anxious to see just how much mercury comes out of him. He may not have gotten the mercury from the vaccines. It could have come from the nasal spray that I used while pregnant. Could be from the tuna that I ate. I don't know for sure. All I know is it needs to come out. I guess what I am getting at is that these kids are really, really sick. We found so many vitamin deficiency from these tests even though he is on a multi vitamin. We are having to add more Vit. C, B-6 and we are doing B-12 injections. Your daughters autism may not have been caused by mercury but there are alot of other things that can cause it. MMR for example. As I stated before, my son had MAJOR GI inflammation. To the point where if his test results had been just a few points higher they would have suggested a colonoscopy. Why does my son have this inflammation? If they did a biopsy I would be willing to bet that they would find the measles virus. My son's ASO titer was positive. This means that there is still strep in his body. This can lead to OCD behaviors. He had Epstein Bar virus in his body. His immune system was low. These kids have several health issues that can be addressed and can help greatly in controlling their behaviors! When I took my son to the doctor for his 5 year check up, she absolutely could not believe the change in him. Her and the nurse just went on and on about how well he was doing. They asked what meds I had him on. It felt good to say "None, this is from a GFCF diet, supplements and fish oil." He is on no meds and it really shocked them. They couldn't believe the change from just altering the diet. And I can't wait until next years check up. He is going to blow their mind. Sorry this is so long, I just really wanted to get the point across that unless you test your child, you are not going to know what underlying health problems your child may have that can be treated. It is overwhelming. I just got back his organic acid test yesterday and we now have to add vitamin c and b-6 to an already long list of supplements that he takes. But it is all worth it in the end when he says to his sister "Come on, sissy. Want some ice cream?" (GFCF popsicles, of course) something that they never expected my child to do. Don't give up on your daughter. What these kids can do will amaze you. H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 1, 2006 Report Share Posted July 1, 2006 I tried to post this earlier, but didn't seem to go through. So if it pops up twice I'm sorry. This is my take on the whole Mercury Poisoning. I have a 29 month old son. He has Autism. But from the very day he was born I knew something was different about him. Okay think of it this way, if it is Mercury that has caused so many kids now days to be autistic, how come it's only been the past generation to really get hit hard by it. How come I don't have Autism, or my brother, sister, my cousins or my parents, Grandparents. We all got shots, and alot of kids had tooth fillings with Mercury in the filling. The fillings they use on kids today do not contain Mercury, and shots aren't suppose to have it either. So how come it's only been this last Generation that has it the most? I personally feel it's a DNA Genetic make up of the individual. My oldest son, he is 10yrs old. All mercury was supposibly taken out of Vacs. in 2001. Well my oldest got all his shots before 2001. My youngest was born in 2004. How come my youngest has Autism and not my oldest son? How come I don't have Autism? When my youngest was born he was showing all the signs at birth of the Classic Autism. My whole family saw this and they were all worried about him. And sure enough, later on down the road, all our thoughts were correct. Now at birth, he didn't get any shots because of the problems he was having. He didn't get any shots for the first 2 weeks. The only thing they did was the PKU. And within those first 2 weeks, you could see something was there. So I don't feel Autism is brought on by Mercury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 1, 2006 Report Share Posted July 1, 2006 You have explained exactly how I feel. I agree with you 100%. Some people are like slinkies.....................Not really good for anything, but they still bring a smile to your face when you push them down a flight of stairs. Re: Autism or Mercury Poisoning? PLEASE READ I tried to post this earlier, but didn't seem to go through. So if it pops up twice I'm sorry. This is my take on the whole Mercury Poisoning. I have a 29 month old son. He has Autism. But from the very day he was born I knew something was different about him. Okay think of it this way, if it is Mercury that has caused so many kids now days to be autistic, how come it's only been the past generation to really get hit hard by it. How come I don't have Autism, or my brother, sister, my cousins or my parents, Grandparents. We all got shots, and alot of kids had tooth fillings with Mercury in the filling. The fillings they use on kids today do not contain Mercury, and shots aren't suppose to have it either. So how come it's only been this last Generation that has it the most? I personally feel it's a DNA Genetic make up of the individual. My oldest son, he is 10yrs old. All mercury was supposibly taken out of Vacs. in 2001. Well my oldest got all his shots before 2001. My youngest was born in 2004. How come my youngest has Autism and not my oldest son? How come I don't have Autism? When my youngest was born he was showing all the signs at birth of the Classic Autism. My whole family saw this and they were all worried about him. And sure enough, later on down the road, all our thoughts were correct. Now at birth, he didn't get any shots because of the problems he was having. He didn't get any shots for the first 2 weeks. The only thing they did was the PKU. And within those first 2 weeks, you could see something was there. So I don't feel Autism is brought on by Mercury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 1, 2006 Report Share Posted July 1, 2006 It had been taken out except for " a trace " . What does that mean exactly? Just because it had been taken out the stockpiles had not been pulled. I really don't think we know if they are really being honest. They can write anything on a label. I just know the warning label the Eli Lilly has for Thimerosal is lethal. I trace might just be enough. > > Twins can have separate health issues. One could have diabetes and one not. I am not attacking you, please don't think that I am, but you could use the same argument on the one that is " advanced " . Why is she advanced? Even if the one didn't have autism, the other would still be advanced. Why the difference? > I didn't think my son's autism had anything to do with mercury. I was told that it was taken out before he received his vaccines in 2001. I even went to a web site that tells you how much mercury was in your child's vaccines. It said " none " . I thought my son's problem would be from yeast overgrowth since he was on so many antibiotics for ear infections. Then I went to the Great Plains Clinic in Atlanta in April and saw Dr. West. We did a lot of testing. I expected the yeast to be sky high! After all, he had been on antibiotics 15 times! 12 in one year alone. Turns out, he did have yeast, but only 1+. I expected more. Then I got his heavy metals test. His aluminum, arsenic, antimony,tin, uranium, magnesium and zirconium were all high. The aluminum was extremely high. All the suggested places that he could have gotten this didn't apply to him. Yet there is aluminum in vaccines. Dr. West said that the body can focus on getting these metals out and leave the others (mercury, lead, etc) behind. So once we get rid of the yeast and gut inflammation that showed up on this test (measles?) then we can start chelating. I am anxious to see just how much mercury comes out of him. He may not have gotten the mercury from the vaccines. It could have come from the nasal spray that I used while pregnant. Could be from the tuna that I ate. I don't know for sure. All I know is it needs to come out. > I guess what I am getting at is that these kids are really, really sick. We found so many vitamin deficiency from these tests even though he is on a multi vitamin. We are having to add more Vit. C, B- 6 and we are doing B-12 injections. Your daughters autism may not have been caused by mercury but there are alot of other things that can cause it. MMR for example. As I stated before, my son had MAJOR GI inflammation. To the point where if his test results had been just a few points higher they would have suggested a colonoscopy. Why does my son have this inflammation? If they did a biopsy I would be willing to bet that they would find the measles virus. My son's ASO titer was positive. This means that there is still strep in his body. This can lead to OCD behaviors. He had Epstein Bar virus in his body. His immune system was low. These kids have several health issues that can be addressed and can help greatly in controlling their behaviors! When I took my son to the doctor for his 5 year check up, she absolutely could not believe the change in him. Her and the nurse just went on and on about how well he was doing. They asked what meds I had him on. It felt good to say " None, this is from a GFCF diet, supplements and fish oil. " He is on no meds and it really shocked them. They couldn't believe the change from just altering the diet. And I can't wait until next years check up. He is going to blow their mind. > Sorry this is so long, I just really wanted to get the point across that unless you test your child, you are not going to know what underlying health problems your child may have that can be treated. It is overwhelming. I just got back his organic acid test yesterday and we now have to add vitamin c and b-6 to an already long list of supplements that he takes. But it is all worth it in the end when he says to his sister " Come on, sissy. Want some ice cream? " (GFCF popsicles, of course) something that they never expected my child to do. > Don't give up on your daughter. What these kids can do will amaze you. > H. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 1, 2006 Report Share Posted July 1, 2006 It had been taken out except for " a trace " . What does that mean exactly? Just because it had been taken out the stockpiles had not been pulled. I really don't think we know if they are really being honest. They can write anything on a label. I just know the warning label the Eli Lilly has for Thimerosal is lethal. I trace might just be enough. > > Twins can have separate health issues. One could have diabetes and one not. I am not attacking you, please don't think that I am, but you could use the same argument on the one that is " advanced " . Why is she advanced? Even if the one didn't have autism, the other would still be advanced. Why the difference? > I didn't think my son's autism had anything to do with mercury. I was told that it was taken out before he received his vaccines in 2001. I even went to a web site that tells you how much mercury was in your child's vaccines. It said " none " . I thought my son's problem would be from yeast overgrowth since he was on so many antibiotics for ear infections. Then I went to the Great Plains Clinic in Atlanta in April and saw Dr. West. We did a lot of testing. I expected the yeast to be sky high! After all, he had been on antibiotics 15 times! 12 in one year alone. Turns out, he did have yeast, but only 1+. I expected more. Then I got his heavy metals test. His aluminum, arsenic, antimony,tin, uranium, magnesium and zirconium were all high. The aluminum was extremely high. All the suggested places that he could have gotten this didn't apply to him. Yet there is aluminum in vaccines. Dr. West said that the body can focus on getting these metals out and leave the others (mercury, lead, etc) behind. So once we get rid of the yeast and gut inflammation that showed up on this test (measles?) then we can start chelating. I am anxious to see just how much mercury comes out of him. He may not have gotten the mercury from the vaccines. It could have come from the nasal spray that I used while pregnant. Could be from the tuna that I ate. I don't know for sure. All I know is it needs to come out. > I guess what I am getting at is that these kids are really, really sick. We found so many vitamin deficiency from these tests even though he is on a multi vitamin. We are having to add more Vit. C, B- 6 and we are doing B-12 injections. Your daughters autism may not have been caused by mercury but there are alot of other things that can cause it. MMR for example. As I stated before, my son had MAJOR GI inflammation. To the point where if his test results had been just a few points higher they would have suggested a colonoscopy. Why does my son have this inflammation? If they did a biopsy I would be willing to bet that they would find the measles virus. My son's ASO titer was positive. This means that there is still strep in his body. This can lead to OCD behaviors. He had Epstein Bar virus in his body. His immune system was low. These kids have several health issues that can be addressed and can help greatly in controlling their behaviors! When I took my son to the doctor for his 5 year check up, she absolutely could not believe the change in him. Her and the nurse just went on and on about how well he was doing. They asked what meds I had him on. It felt good to say " None, this is from a GFCF diet, supplements and fish oil. " He is on no meds and it really shocked them. They couldn't believe the change from just altering the diet. And I can't wait until next years check up. He is going to blow their mind. > Sorry this is so long, I just really wanted to get the point across that unless you test your child, you are not going to know what underlying health problems your child may have that can be treated. It is overwhelming. I just got back his organic acid test yesterday and we now have to add vitamin c and b-6 to an already long list of supplements that he takes. But it is all worth it in the end when he says to his sister " Come on, sissy. Want some ice cream? " (GFCF popsicles, of course) something that they never expected my child to do. > Don't give up on your daughter. What these kids can do will amaze you. > H. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 1, 2006 Report Share Posted July 1, 2006 Thimerosal was not in the vaccines when your son was given his, plus children got shots at a later age after the nervous systems had developed. Do you remember you son getting a shot at birth? I know as I Chelate my son the evidense is beginning to surface. His recent test showed him to be in the 95%. The only thing I can't get answers on is exactly how much mercury is that! What ever it is it is definitely too much for someone weighing 57 pounds. I just know when I grew up everyone in my calss could sit down, pay attention, talk, write without motor issues and there were very few Spec. Ed buses. Now some one tell me what the one common element is for children across cultures, races, social class and anything else you want to through in the pot? It is that they have been given at least 20 shots before they enter kindergarten. > > > I tried to post this earlier, but didn't seem to go through. So if it > pops up twice I'm sorry. > > > This is my take on the whole Mercury Poisoning. I have a 29 month old > son. He has Autism. But from the very day he was born I knew something > was different about him. Okay think of it this way, if > it is Mercury that has caused so many kids now days to be autistic, how > come it's only been the past generation to really get hit hard by it. > How come I don't have Autism, or my brother, sister, my cousins or my > parents, Grandparents. We all got shots, and alot of kids had > tooth fillings with Mercury in the filling. The fillings they use on > kids today do not contain Mercury, and shots aren't suppose to have it > either. So how come it's only been this last Generation that > has it the most? I personally feel it's a DNA Genetic make up of the > individual. My oldest son, he is 10yrs old. All mercury was supposibly > taken out of Vacs. in 2001. Well my oldest got all his shots before > 2001. My youngest was born in 2004. How come my youngest has Autism > and not my oldest son? How come I don't have Autism? When my > youngest was born he was showing all the signs at birth of the Classic > Autism. My whole family saw this and they were all worried about him. > And sure enough, later on down the road, all our thoughts were correct. > Now at birth, he didn't get any shots because of the problems he was > having. He didn't get any shots for the first 2 weeks. The only thing > they did was the PKU. And within those first 2 weeks, you could see > something was there. So I don't feel Autism is brought on by Mercury. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 1, 2006 Report Share Posted July 1, 2006 This last generation has been effected so much because the vaccine load was increased so much in the early 90s. When I was little, I only received the measles, mumps and rubella vaccine. My son and daughter would have received 22 vaccines by the time they were 5 if I had continued to vaccinate them. Your oldest son may not have autism because he wasn't susceptible to mercury. And like someone mentioned earlier, the vaccines are suppose to be "mercury free" but my son has mercury in him. Where did it come from? Like I mentioned, possible the nasal spray or the tuna, but I am betting that it was the vaccines. Even though they took it out of vaccines in 2001, there was no recall on the ones already out there that could have had an expiration date of 2004! or later. Autism, I think, is a mixture of genetic and environmental triggers. These children are born without the ability to excrete mercury like most folks. Most likely they are low in an amino acid called glutathione (?), This gets rid of mercury and other heavy metals. They are bombarded with more mercury (vaccines, food, water, air) then the previous generations were and they cannot get it out of their body. That is the reason why so many autism symptoms resemble mercury poisoning. If you child was different from the start then you can look at what they got in utero. Did you get the flu vaccine while pregnant? Did you have to have the Rhogam shots? Did you have mercury fillings in your mouth? Did you eat a lot of tuna? These children don't have to have the mercury after birth, it can all begin before they arrive into the world. Autism is an epidemic, therefore it cannot be strictly genetic. You cannot have a genetic epidemic. That is why downs and such never rise or fall. They stay steady. Autism has risen. The good thing? Since mercury was removed from most of the vaccines in 2001, autism has started to decline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 1, 2006 Report Share Posted July 1, 2006 I know this topic is a hot one with strong opinions for both sides. I just want to say I agree with you on the point that children today are getting more vaccines & closer together than earlier years. The other point I want to make is I also think there is a genetic component that is at work too. The combination of the two could possibly cause a lot of harm to a child. My twin girls were premature so I chalked up all their delays to that. Once one of my daughters was diagnosed with Autism I really felt like it must be genetic & possibly the premature complications. Since my daughter did not have a regression, but was delayed from very early on I didn't think mercury or toxic metals was a factor for us. However after doing a lot of biomedical intervention we finally got around to testing for toxic metals. We found toxic metals in both of my daughters, but my daughter with Autism had higher levels. I was shocked because I honestly didn't think it was a factor for us. Then to learn that both of my children had high levels was another shocker. We did chelation on both of my daughters & saw results right away. They both improved & eventually we were able to get both of them into normal ranges. From all of this we learned my daughter who is not on the spectrum was able to release the toxic metals from her system faster than her twin sister. They also had different levels in everything vitamins, minerals, etc. even though they pretty much ate the same foods everyday. I think the " cause " of Autism is different in some way or another for every child, but I do believe there has to be some common factor as well. It could possibly be different combinations of things. I think that is why each therapy or treatment is hit or miss with our kids. Not everyone is going to react the same way to one treatment. I do strongly believe in biomedical intervention because I think the tests help you understand your childs body better & your able to provide things that are lacking or possibly find a problem you didn't know existed. Our daughters made a lot of progress before we began chelation just by adding vitamins & minerals they were lacking. Of course I do know one family who did all the tests & everything came back normal. So like I said before you just don't know. But I think it's worth investigating to know for sure. I'm sure this mercury debate will be going on for a very long time. I do feel though it's worth checking out since so many children on the spectrum do have elevated levels of toxic metals in their system. Anyway what I'm trying to say in this long winded email is I'm a parent who didn't believe in the whole mercury thing for my child & it turns out I was wrong. So you just never know until you have them tested. Now the big question for me is where did these toxic metals come from? Is it the vaccines, environment, food? I don't know, but I am more careful now. My girls get their vaccines, but I'm very careful. I have their titers checked so they are not getting unnecessary vaccines, I make sure the vaccines are thimerasol free & I space out their vaccines. In the end go with your gut & do what you think is best for your child. Do your own research don't just listen to what others say, but get the info so you can make the best decision for your child/children. Wendie > > > > > > I tried to post this earlier, but didn't seem to go through. So > if it > > pops up twice I'm sorry. > > > > > > This is my take on the whole Mercury Poisoning. I have a 29 month > old > > son. He has Autism. But from the very day he was born I knew > something > > was different about him. Okay think of it this > way, if > > it is Mercury that has caused so many kids now days to be > autistic, how > > come it's only been the past generation to really get hit hard by > it. > > How come I don't have Autism, or my brother, sister, my cousins or > my > > parents, Grandparents. We all got shots, and alot of kids had > > tooth fillings with Mercury in the filling. The fillings they use > on > > kids today do not contain Mercury, and shots aren't suppose to > have it > > either. So how come it's only been this last > Generation that > > has it the most? I personally feel it's a DNA Genetic make up of > the > > individual. My oldest son, he is 10yrs old. All mercury was > supposibly > > taken out of Vacs. in 2001. Well my oldest got all his shots > before > > 2001. My youngest was born in 2004. How come my youngest has > Autism > > and not my oldest son? How come I don't have Autism? When my > > youngest was born he was showing all the signs at birth of the > Classic > > Autism. My whole family saw this and they were all worried about > him. > > And sure enough, later on down the road, all our thoughts were > correct. > > Now at birth, he didn't get any shots because of the problems he > was > > having. He didn't get any shots for the first 2 weeks. The only > thing > > they did was the PKU. And within those first 2 weeks, you could > see > > something was there. So I don't feel Autism is brought on by > Mercury. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 1, 2006 Report Share Posted July 1, 2006 I know this topic is a hot one with strong opinions for both sides. I just want to say I agree with you on the point that children today are getting more vaccines & closer together than earlier years. The other point I want to make is I also think there is a genetic component that is at work too. The combination of the two could possibly cause a lot of harm to a child. My twin girls were premature so I chalked up all their delays to that. Once one of my daughters was diagnosed with Autism I really felt like it must be genetic & possibly the premature complications. Since my daughter did not have a regression, but was delayed from very early on I didn't think mercury or toxic metals was a factor for us. However after doing a lot of biomedical intervention we finally got around to testing for toxic metals. We found toxic metals in both of my daughters, but my daughter with Autism had higher levels. I was shocked because I honestly didn't think it was a factor for us. Then to learn that both of my children had high levels was another shocker. We did chelation on both of my daughters & saw results right away. They both improved & eventually we were able to get both of them into normal ranges. From all of this we learned my daughter who is not on the spectrum was able to release the toxic metals from her system faster than her twin sister. They also had different levels in everything vitamins, minerals, etc. even though they pretty much ate the same foods everyday. I think the " cause " of Autism is different in some way or another for every child, but I do believe there has to be some common factor as well. It could possibly be different combinations of things. I think that is why each therapy or treatment is hit or miss with our kids. Not everyone is going to react the same way to one treatment. I do strongly believe in biomedical intervention because I think the tests help you understand your childs body better & your able to provide things that are lacking or possibly find a problem you didn't know existed. Our daughters made a lot of progress before we began chelation just by adding vitamins & minerals they were lacking. Of course I do know one family who did all the tests & everything came back normal. So like I said before you just don't know. But I think it's worth investigating to know for sure. I'm sure this mercury debate will be going on for a very long time. I do feel though it's worth checking out since so many children on the spectrum do have elevated levels of toxic metals in their system. Anyway what I'm trying to say in this long winded email is I'm a parent who didn't believe in the whole mercury thing for my child & it turns out I was wrong. So you just never know until you have them tested. Now the big question for me is where did these toxic metals come from? Is it the vaccines, environment, food? I don't know, but I am more careful now. My girls get their vaccines, but I'm very careful. I have their titers checked so they are not getting unnecessary vaccines, I make sure the vaccines are thimerasol free & I space out their vaccines. In the end go with your gut & do what you think is best for your child. Do your own research don't just listen to what others say, but get the info so you can make the best decision for your child/children. Wendie > > > > > > I tried to post this earlier, but didn't seem to go through. So > if it > > pops up twice I'm sorry. > > > > > > This is my take on the whole Mercury Poisoning. I have a 29 month > old > > son. He has Autism. But from the very day he was born I knew > something > > was different about him. Okay think of it this > way, if > > it is Mercury that has caused so many kids now days to be > autistic, how > > come it's only been the past generation to really get hit hard by > it. > > How come I don't have Autism, or my brother, sister, my cousins or > my > > parents, Grandparents. We all got shots, and alot of kids had > > tooth fillings with Mercury in the filling. The fillings they use > on > > kids today do not contain Mercury, and shots aren't suppose to > have it > > either. So how come it's only been this last > Generation that > > has it the most? I personally feel it's a DNA Genetic make up of > the > > individual. My oldest son, he is 10yrs old. All mercury was > supposibly > > taken out of Vacs. in 2001. Well my oldest got all his shots > before > > 2001. My youngest was born in 2004. How come my youngest has > Autism > > and not my oldest son? How come I don't have Autism? When my > > youngest was born he was showing all the signs at birth of the > Classic > > Autism. My whole family saw this and they were all worried about > him. > > And sure enough, later on down the road, all our thoughts were > correct. > > Now at birth, he didn't get any shots because of the problems he > was > > having. He didn't get any shots for the first 2 weeks. The only > thing > > they did was the PKU. And within those first 2 weeks, you could > see > > something was there. So I don't feel Autism is brought on by > Mercury. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 1, 2006 Report Share Posted July 1, 2006 That's great that you both feel that way - but please do not try and dissuade those of us who DO feel our children were poisoned. Each person on this earth is different - EVEN TWINS have molecular differences. Does DNA play a part? I'm sure it does. But so does the mercury. Sherri <jennifer1972@...> wrote: You have explained exactly how I feel. I agree with you 100%. Some people are like slinkies.....................Not really good for anything, but they still bring a smile to your face when you push them down a flight of stairs. Re: Autism or Mercury Poisoning? PLEASE READ I tried to post this earlier, but didn't seem to go through. So if it pops up twice I'm sorry. This is my take on the whole Mercury Poisoning. I have a 29 month old son. He has Autism. But from the very day he was born I knew something was different about him. Okay think of it this way, if it is Mercury that has caused so many kids now days to be autistic, how come it's only been the past generation to really get hit hard by it. How come I don't have Autism, or my brother, sister, my cousins or my parents, Grandparents. We all got shots, and alot of kids had tooth fillings with Mercury in the filling. The fillings they use on kids today do not contain Mercury, and shots aren't suppose to have it either. So how come it's only been this last Generation that has it the most? I personally feel it's a DNA Genetic make up of the individual. My oldest son, he is 10yrs old. All mercury was supposibly taken out of Vacs. in 2001. Well my oldest got all his shots before 2001. My youngest was born in 2004. How come my youngest has Autism and not my oldest son? How come I don't have Autism? When my youngest was born he was showing all the signs at birth of the Classic Autism. My whole family saw this and they were all worried about him. And sure enough, later on down the road, all our thoughts were correct. Now at birth, he didn't get any shots because of the problems he was having. He didn't get any shots for the first 2 weeks. The only thing they did was the PKU. And within those first 2 weeks, you could see something was there. So I don't feel Autism is brought on by Mercury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 1, 2006 Report Share Posted July 1, 2006 For a lot of parents, finding out the "why" and "how" is very important to them. Some parents I have talked with are almost on a revenge seeking mission, while others are just trying to find another piece to their child's puzzle. It's just important to do whatever you have to do you your child and yourself. Missy- SAHM & Angel to Warrior !! I am who I am because that's who I am, --, 7 Aspergers, LKS All Kids are gifted, some just open their packages earlier than others-- Carr http://www.iditarace4autism.com/index.html Race for Autismhttp://www.caringbridge.org/cb/inputSiteName.do?method=search & siteName=michaelfrench Stop by and say hi to my Warrior!! Re: Autism or Mercury Poisoning? PLEASE READ I know this topic is a hot one with strong opinions for both sides. I just want to say I agree with you on the point that children today are getting more vaccines & closer together than earlier years. The other point I want to make is I also think there is a genetic component that is at work too. The combination of the two could possibly cause a lot of harm to a child.My twin girls were premature so I chalked up all their delays to that. Once one of my daughters was diagnosed with Autism I really felt like it must be genetic & possibly the premature complications. Since my daughter did not have a regression, but was delayed from very early on I didn't think mercury or toxic metals was a factor for us. However after doing a lot of biomedical intervention we finally got around to testing for toxic metals. We found toxic metals in both of my daughters, but my daughter with Autism had higher levels. I was shocked because I honestly didn't think it was a factor for us. Then to learn that both of my children had high levels was another shocker. We did chelation on both of my daughters & saw results right away. They both improved & eventually we were able to get both of them into normal ranges. From all of this we learned my daughter who is not on the spectrum was able to release the toxic metals from her system faster than her twin sister. They also had different levels in everything vitamins, minerals, etc. even though they pretty much ate the same foods everyday. I think the "cause" of Autism is different in some way or another for every child, but I do believe there has to be some common factor as well. It could possibly be different combinations of things. I think that is why each therapy or treatment is hit or miss with our kids. Not everyone is going to react the same way to one treatment. I do strongly believe in biomedical intervention because I think the tests help you understand your childs body better & your able to provide things that are lacking or possibly find a problem you didn't know existed. Our daughters made a lot of progress before we began chelation just by adding vitamins & minerals they were lacking. Of course I do know one family who did all the tests & everything came back normal. So like I said before you just don't know. But I think it's worth investigating to know for sure. I'm sure this mercury debate will be going on for a very long time. I do feel though it's worth checking out since so many children on the spectrum do have elevated levels of toxic metals in their system. Anyway what I'm trying to say in this long winded email is I'm a parent who didn't believe in the whole mercury thing for my child & it turns out I was wrong. So you just never know until you have them tested. Now the big question for me is where did these toxic metals come from? Is it the vaccines, environment, food? I don't know, but I am more careful now. My girls get their vaccines, but I'm very careful. I have their titers checked so they are not getting unnecessary vaccines, I make sure the vaccines are thimerasol free & I space out their vaccines. In the end go with your gut & do what you think is best for your child. Do your own research don't just listen to what others say, but get the info so you can make the best decision for your child/children.Wendie> >> > > > I tried to post this earlier, but didn't seem to go through. So > if it> > pops up twice I'm sorry.> > > > > > This is my take on the whole Mercury Poisoning. I have a 29 month > old> > son. He has Autism. But from the very day he was born I knew > something> > was different about him. Okay think of it this > way, if> > it is Mercury that has caused so many kids now days to be > autistic, how> > come it's only been the past generation to really get hit hard by > it. > > How come I don't have Autism, or my brother, sister, my cousins or > my> > parents, Grandparents. We all got shots, and alot of kids had> > tooth fillings with Mercury in the filling. The fillings they use > on> > kids today do not contain Mercury, and shots aren't suppose to > have it> > either. So how come it's only been this last > Generation that> > has it the most? I personally feel it's a DNA Genetic make up of > the> > individual. My oldest son, he is 10yrs old. All mercury was > supposibly> > taken out of Vacs. in 2001. Well my oldest got all his shots > before> > 2001. My youngest was born in 2004. How come my youngest has > Autism> > and not my oldest son? How come I don't have Autism? When my> > youngest was born he was showing all the signs at birth of the > Classic> > Autism. My whole family saw this and they were all worried about > him. > > And sure enough, later on down the road, all our thoughts were > correct. > > Now at birth, he didn't get any shots because of the problems he > was> > having. He didn't get any shots for the first 2 weeks. The only > thing> > they did was the PKU. And within those first 2 weeks, you could > see> > something was there. So I don't feel Autism is brought on by > Mercury.> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 1, 2006 Report Share Posted July 1, 2006 Missy, I agree with you. As I speak to parents, there are so many emotions that are expressed. I know for me...it is not so much how this happened as that it did happen and I will do whatever is necessary to help him through...as all parents will do. As I read the posts, it seems as though most of us are saying that we believe there to be a genetic predisposition towards autism and a trigger. As I said in my first post...I truly believe that mercury has played a part in my child's autism...but I also know that I took prednisone throughout my entire pregnancy to protect him from the antibodies that I have, that he was a preemie, that he had an extremely high bilirubin and was in the NICU...and that they continued to vaccinate him on the set schedule...All of this together at a time when his little system was not neurologically developed. I knew something was wrong from the beginning, I know that the 15 month injections brought on the seizures....and i could go on and on.... Am I angry at the government? Darn straight I am.... So, my point in this email is to say that we all deal with this in our own way...and i support all parents in the paths that they take....and I respect all... In all of this...we need to help other people to understand that this is not a "new label" for children who "misbehave" etc... There is a cause for autism....we just haven't been able to pinpoint it and may never be able to...but we can come closer to finding the genetic predisposition and the triggers in our world.. And...as my final note on vaccinations...My sister just had her first baby...throughout her pregnancy we discussed vaccinating, the "trace" thimerasol in the processing today, etc... I would send her articles... etc.. Imagine the pride I felt when I drove to Florida the day after my niece was born, held her in my arms and my sister looked at me and said..."she didn't have the Hep B...she is simply too tiny to give something she may not need." She had found a pediatrician who agreed to wait and space out all vaccinations and felt that it was extremely important as their was a genetic predisposition to autism in our family. So...maybe..just maybe...our children and our voices do have a purpose here... Just my last thought on this issue....at least for now K Sneak preview the all-new .com. It's not radically different. Just radically better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2006 Report Share Posted July 2, 2006 Others of us feel responsible and motivated to see that other unsuspecting families don't have to go through the hell that we have lived through, whether that be because of the Autism, the isolation or the fighting of the system. Marilyn Pyles Lilburn, GA 30047Missy Feldhaus <itchy10@...> wrote: For a lot of parents, finding out the "why" and "how" is very important to them. Some parents I have talked with are almost on a revenge seeking mission, while others are just trying to find another piece to their child's puzzle. It's just important to do whatever you have to do you your child and yourself. Missy- SAHM & Angel to Warrior !! I am who I am because that's who I am, --, 7 Aspergers, LKS All Kids are gifted, some just open their packages earlier than others-- Carr http://www.iditarace4autism.com/index.html Race for Autismhttp://www.caringbridge.org/cb/inputSiteName.do?method=search & siteName=michaelfrench Stop by and say hi to my Warrior!! Re: Autism or Mercury Poisoning? PLEASE READ I know this topic is a hot one with strong opinions for both sides. I just want to say I agree with you on the point that children today are getting more vaccines & closer together than earlier years. The other point I want to make is I also think there is a genetic component that is at work too. The combination of the two could possibly cause a lot of harm to a child.My twin girls were premature so I chalked up all their delays to that. Once one of my daughters was diagnosed with Autism I really felt like it must be genetic & possibly the premature complications. Since my daughter did not have a regression, but was delayed from very early on I didn't think mercury or toxic metals was a factor for us. However after doing a lot of biomedical intervention we finally got around to testing for toxic metals. We found toxic metals in both of my daughters, but my daughter with Autism had higher levels. I was shocked because I honestly didn't think it was a factor for us. Then to learn that both of my children had high levels was another shocker. We did chelation on both of my daughters & saw results right away. They both improved & eventually we were able to get both of them into normal ranges. From all of this we learned my daughter who is not on the spectrum was able to release the toxic metals from her system faster than her twin sister. They also had different levels in everything vitamins, minerals, etc. even though they pretty much ate the same foods everyday. I think the "cause" of Autism is different in some way or another for every child, but I do believe there has to be some common factor as well. It could possibly be different combinations of things. I think that is why each therapy or treatment is hit or miss with our kids. Not everyone is going to react the same way to one treatment. I do strongly believe in biomedical intervention because I think the tests help you understand your childs body better & your able to provide things that are lacking or possibly find a problem you didn't know existed. Our daughters made a lot of progress before we began chelation just by adding vitamins & minerals they were lacking. Of course I do know one family who did all the tests & everything came back normal. So like I said before you just don't know. But I think it's worth investigating to know for sure. I'm sure this mercury debate will be going on for a very long time. I do feel though it's worth checking out since so many children on the spectrum do have elevated levels of toxic metals in their system. Anyway what I'm trying to say in this long winded email is I'm a parent who didn't believe in the whole mercury thing for my child & it turns out I was wrong. So you just never know until you have them tested. Now the big question for me is where did these toxic metals come from? Is it the vaccines, environment, food? I don't know, but I am more careful now. My girls get their vaccines, but I'm very careful. I have their titers checked so they are not getting unnecessary vaccines, I make sure the vaccines are thimerasol free & I space out their vaccines. In the end go with your gut & do what you think is best for your child. Do your own research don't just listen to what others say, but get the info so you can make the best decision for your child/children.Wendie> >> > > > I tried to post this earlier, but didn't seem to go through. So > if it> > pops up twice I'm sorry.> > > > > > This is my take on the whole Mercury Poisoning. I have a 29 month > old> > son. He has Autism. But from the very day he was born I knew > something> > was different about him. Okay think of it this > way, if> > it is Mercury that has caused so many kids now days to be > autistic, how> > come it's only been the past generation to really get hit hard by > it. > > How come I don't have Autism, or my brother, sister, my cousins or > my> > parents, Grandparents. We all got shots, and alot of kids had> > tooth fillings with Mercury in the filling. The fillings they use > on> > kids today do not contain Mercury, and shots aren't suppose to > have it> > either. So how come it's only been this last > Generation that> > has it the most? I personally feel it's a DNA Genetic make up of > the> > individual. My oldest son, he is 10yrs old. All mercury was > supposibly> > taken out of Vacs. in 2001. Well my oldest got all his shots > before> > 2001. My youngest was born in 2004. How come my youngest has > Autism> > and not my oldest son? How come I don't have Autism? When my> > youngest was born he was showing all the signs at birth of the > Classic> > Autism. My whole family saw this and they were all worried about > him. > > And sure enough, later on down the road, all our thoughts were > correct. > > Now at birth, he didn't get any shots because of the problems he > was> > having. He didn't get any shots for the first 2 weeks. The only > thing> > they did was the PKU. And within those first 2 weeks, you could > see> > something was there. So I don't feel Autism is brought on by > Mercury.> >> Want to be your own boss? Learn how on Small Business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2006 Report Share Posted July 2, 2006 Hi , I am interested in your comment about the rate of autism declining since mercury was removed from the vaccines. That is not what I have been led to believe. Do you have the reference for that research? I’d be interested to take a look at it. Thanks so much, Kirsty. From: autism [mailto:autism ] On Behalf Of H. Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2006 2:52 PM autism Subject: Re: Autism or Mercury Poisoning? PLEASE READ This last generation has been effected so much because the vaccine load was increased so much in the early 90s. When I was little, I only received the measles, mumps and rubella vaccine. My son and daughter would have received 22 vaccines by the time they were 5 if I had continued to vaccinate them. Your oldest son may not have autism because he wasn't susceptible to mercury. And like someone mentioned earlier, the vaccines are suppose to be " mercury free " but my son has mercury in him. Where did it come from? Like I mentioned, possible the nasal spray or the tuna, but I am betting that it was the vaccines. Even though they took it out of vaccines in 2001, there was no recall on the ones already out there that could have had an expiration date of 2004! or later. Autism, I think, is a mixture of genetic and environmental triggers. These children are born without the ability to excrete mercury like most folks. Most likely they are low in an amino acid called glutathione (?), This gets rid of mercury and other heavy metals. They are bombarded with more mercury (vaccines, food, water, air) then the previous generations were and they cannot get it out of their body. That is the reason why so many autism symptoms resemble mercury poisoning. If you child was different from the start then you can look at what they got in utero. Did you get the flu vaccine while pregnant? Did you have to have the Rhogam shots? Did you have mercury fillings in your mouth? Did you eat a lot of tuna? These children don't have to have the mercury after birth, it can all begin before they arrive into the world. Autism is an epidemic, therefore it cannot be strictly genetic. You cannot have a genetic epidemic. That is why downs and such never rise or fall. They stay steady. Autism has risen. The good thing? Since mercury was removed from most of the vaccines in 2001, autism has started to decline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2006 Report Share Posted July 2, 2006 http://www.safeminds.org/pressroom/press_releases/Response%20to%20CA%20DDA%20Autism%20Case%20Report%2001-18-05.pdf You can go to this link from Safe Minds (or check out their website) and it shows the autism rates up until 2004. They were and still are declining. You can also check out Kirby's website www.evidenceofharm.com I encourage you to read this book also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2006 Report Share Posted July 3, 2006 Then there are those of us who can not afford to give our children opportunities for treatment not covered by insurance or medicaid. Be grateful that you child has this opportunity. Marilyn Pyles Lilburn, GAderrick_angela_2000 <derrick_angela_2000@...> wrote: Hello,I have really been thinking about ways to make this personal to the public. As I Chelate my son I have to ask myself is he Autistic? No, he was poisoned by the toxic mercury that was in his vaccine. When i speak to people who aren't affected they seem to hear this and understand better when I speak of mercury poisoning. I think we all should assess how we decribe our children's toxic state. A man approached me at the CDC rally and asked why I felt my child's "Autism" was caused by his vaccine? As we began to talk another parent with more in depth scientific knowledge took over the conversation (thank God). During the conversation I noticed this man continued to use the word Autism and not focus on the Mercury issue being discussed. After about 10 min he wished us well and said good-bye. As I watched the news that night that man was the CDC spokesperson Mr Tom Skinner whose said "We at the CDC just don't know what causes Autism." I don't think they hear us because we have grouped our children under this label that has a history of an unknown cause and no cure (plus they don't want to hear us). We know the cause and have seen evidence of cure so we need to assess how we present our cases to the public.We aren't chelating Autism we are chelating Mercury!I know it cost to treat our children and many of us can't travel. I was thinking about something we all can do. Make a one page flyer on your own printer with a picture of your child and a copy of one of his labs that show his mercury level (or other info)and write a note on it "My child was mercury poisoned from his vaccine, request mercury free vaccines". I don't know of anyone who won't read a paper with a kids picture. If we begin tohand these out at parks, leave one in the grocery cart etc... I think we can reach other families. If you do this please mail a copy to Mr Tom SkinnerCDC/Press Office1600 Clifton Rd Atl Ga 30333 Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2006 Report Share Posted July 3, 2006 Marilyn: I understand about the cost. Luckily, my insurance pays for some of the doctor bills, or we'd be " up the creek " . You can do a lot on your own, though. If you'll buy the book " Children With Starving Brains " by McAndless (sp?), it lays out step by step the biomedical interventions that we can do. A lot of them are things you can do without a prescription, and you can try them out by buying the products at a store like the Vitamin Shoppe, and seeing if they make a difference for your child. I wouldn't chelate without supervision, because it does come with some risk, but adding vitamins and other types of supplements are rarely risky. Just add one thing at the time, though, because you do want to see what behavioral changes, if any, result from each thing. My son gets REALLY hyper on B vitamins, for example, so even though they are recommended, we don't do them. We've tried various doses and combinations, and would just as soon do without the hyperactivity. Are you on the AutismBiomedGA list? You can ask questions there about how to get started and what doses, etc. from other parents. Marilyn Pyles <hillbillyhelper2@...> Sent by: autism 07/03/2006 09:32 AM Please respond to autism To autism cc Subject Re: Autism or Mercury Poisoning? PLEASE READ Then there are those of us who can not afford to give our children opportunities for treatment not covered by insurance or medicaid. Be grateful that you child has this opportunity. Marilyn Pyles Lilburn, GA derrick_angela_2000 <derrick_angela_2000@...> wrote: Hello, I have really been thinking about ways to make this personal to the public. As I Chelate my son I have to ask myself is he Autistic? No, he was poisoned by the toxic mercury that was in his vaccine. When i speak to people who aren't affected they seem to hear this and understand better when I speak of mercury poisoning. I think we all should assess how we decribe our children's toxic state. A man approached me at the CDC rally and asked why I felt my child's " Autism " was caused by his vaccine? As we began to talk another parent with more in depth scientific knowledge took over the conversation (thank God). During the conversation I noticed this man continued to use the word Autism and not focus on the Mercury issue being discussed. After about 10 min he wished us well and said good- bye. As I watched the news that night that man was the CDC spokesperson Mr Tom Skinner whose said " We at the CDC just don't know what causes Autism. " I don't think they hear us because we have grouped our children under this label that has a history of an unknown cause and no cure (plus they don't want to hear us). We know the cause and have seen evidence of cure so we need to assess how we present our cases to the public.We aren't chelating Autism we are chelating Mercury! I know it cost to treat our children and many of us can't travel. I was thinking about something we all can do. Make a one page flyer on your own printer with a picture of your child and a copy of one of his labs that show his mercury level (or other info)and write a note on it " My child was mercury poisoned from his vaccine, request mercury free vaccines " . I don't know of anyone who won't read a paper with a kids picture. If we begin to hand these out at parks, leave one in the grocery cart etc... I think we can reach other families. If you do this please mail a copy to Mr Tom Skinner CDC/Press Office 1600 Clifton Rd Atl Ga 30333 Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2006 Report Share Posted July 3, 2006 Marilyn: I understand about the cost. Luckily, my insurance pays for some of the doctor bills, or we'd be " up the creek " . You can do a lot on your own, though. If you'll buy the book " Children With Starving Brains " by McAndless (sp?), it lays out step by step the biomedical interventions that we can do. A lot of them are things you can do without a prescription, and you can try them out by buying the products at a store like the Vitamin Shoppe, and seeing if they make a difference for your child. I wouldn't chelate without supervision, because it does come with some risk, but adding vitamins and other types of supplements are rarely risky. Just add one thing at the time, though, because you do want to see what behavioral changes, if any, result from each thing. My son gets REALLY hyper on B vitamins, for example, so even though they are recommended, we don't do them. We've tried various doses and combinations, and would just as soon do without the hyperactivity. Are you on the AutismBiomedGA list? You can ask questions there about how to get started and what doses, etc. from other parents. Marilyn Pyles <hillbillyhelper2@...> Sent by: autism 07/03/2006 09:32 AM Please respond to autism To autism cc Subject Re: Autism or Mercury Poisoning? PLEASE READ Then there are those of us who can not afford to give our children opportunities for treatment not covered by insurance or medicaid. Be grateful that you child has this opportunity. Marilyn Pyles Lilburn, GA derrick_angela_2000 <derrick_angela_2000@...> wrote: Hello, I have really been thinking about ways to make this personal to the public. As I Chelate my son I have to ask myself is he Autistic? No, he was poisoned by the toxic mercury that was in his vaccine. When i speak to people who aren't affected they seem to hear this and understand better when I speak of mercury poisoning. I think we all should assess how we decribe our children's toxic state. A man approached me at the CDC rally and asked why I felt my child's " Autism " was caused by his vaccine? As we began to talk another parent with more in depth scientific knowledge took over the conversation (thank God). During the conversation I noticed this man continued to use the word Autism and not focus on the Mercury issue being discussed. After about 10 min he wished us well and said good- bye. As I watched the news that night that man was the CDC spokesperson Mr Tom Skinner whose said " We at the CDC just don't know what causes Autism. " I don't think they hear us because we have grouped our children under this label that has a history of an unknown cause and no cure (plus they don't want to hear us). We know the cause and have seen evidence of cure so we need to assess how we present our cases to the public.We aren't chelating Autism we are chelating Mercury! I know it cost to treat our children and many of us can't travel. I was thinking about something we all can do. Make a one page flyer on your own printer with a picture of your child and a copy of one of his labs that show his mercury level (or other info)and write a note on it " My child was mercury poisoned from his vaccine, request mercury free vaccines " . I don't know of anyone who won't read a paper with a kids picture. If we begin to hand these out at parks, leave one in the grocery cart etc... I think we can reach other families. If you do this please mail a copy to Mr Tom Skinner CDC/Press Office 1600 Clifton Rd Atl Ga 30333 Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2006 Report Share Posted July 3, 2006 , My son is in the custody of the state of WV through no fault of mine or my ex-husband. He became violent during puberty and assaulted two officers when I called 911 for assistance. No placement in the state would accept him and WV won't use medicaid funds to pay for placement unless the child is a ward of the state, also there are several facilities there that state that they will only accept children who are wards of the state. The juvenile justice judge had no choice but to take custody in order to pay for placement, even though he was found incompetent to stand trial. I have been trying to get help and to get some media attention on this, but no one seems interested. Marilyn Pyles Lilburn, GA Cowen <.Cowen@...> wrote: Marilyn: I understand about the cost. Luckily, my insurance pays for some of the doctor bills, or we'd be "up the creek". You can do a lot on your own, though. If you'll buy the book "Children With Starving Brains" by McAndless (sp?), it lays out step by step the biomedical interventions that we can do. A lot of them are things you can do without a prescription, and you can try them out by buying the products at a store like the Vitamin Shoppe, and seeing if they make a difference for your child. I wouldn't chelate without supervision, because it does come with some risk, but adding vitamins and other types of supplements are rarely risky. Just add one thing at the time, though, because you do want to see what behavioral changes, if any, result from each thing. My son gets REALLY hyper on B vitamins, for example, so even though they are recommended, we don't do them. We've tried various doses and combinations, and would just as soon do without the hyperactivity. Are you on the AutismBiomedGA list? You can ask questions there about how to get started and what doses, etc. from other parents. Marilyn Pyles <hillbillyhelper2@...> Sent by: autism 07/03/2006 09:32 AM Please respond toautism To autism cc Subject Re: Autism or Mercury Poisoning? PLEASE READ Then there are those of us who can not afford to give our children opportunities for treatment not covered by insurance or medicaid. Be grateful that you child has this opportunity. Marilyn Pyles Lilburn, GAderrick_angela_2000 <derrick_angela_2000@...> wrote: Hello,I have really been thinking about ways to make this personal to the public. As I Chelate my son I have to ask myself is he Autistic? No, he was poisoned by the toxic mercury that was in his vaccine. When i speak to people who aren't affected they seem to hear this and understand better when I speak of mercury poisoning. I think we all should assess how we decribe our children's toxic state. A man approached me at the CDC rally and asked why I felt my child's "Autism" was caused by his vaccine? As we began to talk another parent with more in depth scientific knowledge took over the conversation (thank God). During the conversation I noticed this man continued to use the word Autism and not focus on the Mercury issue being discussed. After about 10 min he wished us well and said good-bye. As I watched the news that night that man was the CDC spokesperson Mr Tom Skinner whose said "We at the CDC just don't know what causes Autism." I don't think they hear us because we have grouped our children under this label that has a history of an unknown cause and no cure (plus they don't want to hear us). We know the cause and have seen evidence of cure so we need to assess how we present our cases to the public.We aren't chelating Autism we are chelating Mercury!I know it cost to treat our children and many of us can't travel. I was thinking about something we all can do. Make a one page flyer on your own printer with a picture of your child and a copy of one of his labs that show his mercury level (or other info)and write a note on it "My child was mercury poisoned from his vaccine, request mercury free vaccines". I don't know of anyone who won't read a paper with a kids picture. If we begin tohand these out at parks, leave one in the grocery cart etc... I think we can reach other families. If you do this please mail a copy to Mr Tom SkinnerCDC/Press Office1600 Clifton Rd Atl Ga 30333 Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. How low will we go? Check out Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone call rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2006 Report Share Posted July 3, 2006 Because the expense of treating is so great and many parents can't I see this an even more reason to take a stand and demand a hearing with the CDC. The need to be covering the cost of Chelation not us.If we do nothing this will make them very happy. We must stay in the public eye encouraging more parents to ques. the use of mercury. > Hello, > > I have really been thinking about ways to make this personal to the > public. As I Chelate my son I have to ask myself is he Autistic? No, > he was poisoned by the toxic mercury that was in his vaccine. When i > speak to people who aren't affected they seem to hear this and > understand better when I speak of mercury poisoning. I think we all > should assess how we decribe our children's toxic state. A man > approached me at the CDC rally and asked why I felt my > child's " Autism " was caused by his vaccine? As we began to talk > another parent with more in depth scientific knowledge took over the > conversation (thank God). During the conversation I noticed this man > continued to use the word Autism and not focus on the Mercury issue > being discussed. After about 10 min he wished us well and said good- > bye. As I watched the news that night that man was the CDC > spokesperson Mr Tom Skinner whose said " We at the CDC just don't > know what causes Autism. " I don't think they hear us because we have > grouped our children under this label that has a history of an > unknown cause and no cure (plus they don't want to hear us). We know > the cause and have seen evidence of cure so we need to assess how we > present our cases to the public.We aren't chelating Autism we are > chelating Mercury! > > I know it cost to treat our children and many of us can't travel. I > was thinking about something we all can do. Make a one page flyer on > your own printer with a picture of your child and a copy of one of > his labs that show his mercury level (or other info)and write a note > on it " My child was mercury poisoned from his vaccine, request > mercury free vaccines " . I don't know of anyone who won't read a > paper with a kids picture. If we begin to > hand these out at parks, leave one in the grocery cart etc... I > think we can reach other families. If you do this please mail a copy > to > Mr Tom Skinner > CDC/Press Office > 1600 Clifton Rd > Atl Ga 30333 > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs.Try it free. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2006 Report Share Posted July 3, 2006 The Tristan R. Bramblett Autism Foundation provides scholarship funds for children needing biomedical and behavioral therapies and not able to receive it due to financial reasons. We awarded three scholarships in Dec. 2005 and will have more to come later this year. Please visit www.trbautismfoundation.org to download a application (it is still valid although it is dated 2005) or for information on how you can help. Our next fundraiser, an Autism Walk is in Birmingham, Alabama on August 5th and all proceeds will go towards scholarships for children needing biomed or behavioral financial assistance. My son (Tristan Bramblett) does not benefit from the foundation in any way - it is only for other children to receive the same therapies that have been so beneficial for Tristan. The organization does not have any paid staff, therefore all proceeds go directly to helping these kids. We are also planning a fundraiser - an in Atlanta in November so if anyone could help coordinate, volunteer or just attend we would really appreciate it. Please feel free to contact me for more info. Thanks, Cyndi BramblettMarilyn Pyles <hillbillyhelper2@...> wrote: Then there are those of us who can not afford to give our children opportunities for treatment not covered by insurance or medicaid. Be grateful that you child has this opportunity. Marilyn Pyles Lilburn, GAderrick_angela_2000 <derrick_angela_2000@...> wrote: Hello,I have really been thinking about ways to make this personal to the public. As I Chelate my son I have to ask myself is he Autistic? No, he was poisoned by the toxic mercury that was in his vaccine. When i speak to people who aren't affected they seem to hear this and understand better when I speak of mercury poisoning. I think we all should assess how we decribe our children's toxic state. A man approached me at the CDC rally and asked why I felt my child's "Autism" was caused by his vaccine? As we began to talk another parent with more in depth scientific knowledge took over the conversation (thank God). During the conversation I noticed this man continued to use the word Autism and not focus on the Mercury issue being discussed. After about 10 min he wished us well and said good-bye. As I watched the news that night that man was the CDC spokesperson Mr Tom Skinner whose said "We at the CDC just don't know what causes Autism." I don't think they hear us because we have grouped our children under this label that has a history of an unknown cause and no cure (plus they don't want to hear us). We know the cause and have seen evidence of cure so we need to assess how we present our cases to the public.We aren't chelating Autism we are chelating Mercury!I know it cost to treat our children and many of us can't travel. I was thinking about something we all can do. Make a one page flyer on your own printer with a picture of your child and a copy of one of his labs that show his mercury level (or other info)and write a note on it "My child was mercury poisoned from his vaccine, request mercury free vaccines". I don't know of anyone who won't read a paper with a kids picture. If we begin tohand these out at parks, leave one in the grocery cart etc... I think we can reach other families. If you do this please mail a copy to Mr Tom SkinnerCDC/Press Office1600 Clifton Rd Atl Ga 30333 Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2006 Report Share Posted July 3, 2006 The Tristan R. Bramblett Autism Foundation provides scholarship funds for children needing biomedical and behavioral therapies and not able to receive it due to financial reasons. We awarded three scholarships in Dec. 2005 and will have more to come later this year. Please visit www.trbautismfoundation.org to download a application (it is still valid although it is dated 2005) or for information on how you can help. Our next fundraiser, an Autism Walk is in Birmingham, Alabama on August 5th and all proceeds will go towards scholarships for children needing biomed or behavioral financial assistance. My son (Tristan Bramblett) does not benefit from the foundation in any way - it is only for other children to receive the same therapies that have been so beneficial for Tristan. The organization does not have any paid staff, therefore all proceeds go directly to helping these kids. We are also planning a fundraiser - an in Atlanta in November so if anyone could help coordinate, volunteer or just attend we would really appreciate it. Please feel free to contact me for more info. Thanks, Cyndi BramblettMarilyn Pyles <hillbillyhelper2@...> wrote: Then there are those of us who can not afford to give our children opportunities for treatment not covered by insurance or medicaid. Be grateful that you child has this opportunity. Marilyn Pyles Lilburn, GAderrick_angela_2000 <derrick_angela_2000@...> wrote: Hello,I have really been thinking about ways to make this personal to the public. As I Chelate my son I have to ask myself is he Autistic? No, he was poisoned by the toxic mercury that was in his vaccine. When i speak to people who aren't affected they seem to hear this and understand better when I speak of mercury poisoning. I think we all should assess how we decribe our children's toxic state. A man approached me at the CDC rally and asked why I felt my child's "Autism" was caused by his vaccine? As we began to talk another parent with more in depth scientific knowledge took over the conversation (thank God). During the conversation I noticed this man continued to use the word Autism and not focus on the Mercury issue being discussed. After about 10 min he wished us well and said good-bye. As I watched the news that night that man was the CDC spokesperson Mr Tom Skinner whose said "We at the CDC just don't know what causes Autism." I don't think they hear us because we have grouped our children under this label that has a history of an unknown cause and no cure (plus they don't want to hear us). We know the cause and have seen evidence of cure so we need to assess how we present our cases to the public.We aren't chelating Autism we are chelating Mercury!I know it cost to treat our children and many of us can't travel. I was thinking about something we all can do. Make a one page flyer on your own printer with a picture of your child and a copy of one of his labs that show his mercury level (or other info)and write a note on it "My child was mercury poisoned from his vaccine, request mercury free vaccines". I don't know of anyone who won't read a paper with a kids picture. If we begin tohand these out at parks, leave one in the grocery cart etc... I think we can reach other families. If you do this please mail a copy to Mr Tom SkinnerCDC/Press Office1600 Clifton Rd Atl Ga 30333 Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 Thank-you for the information, but my problem now is that I have no say, only input, about decisions made on his behalf. WV is changing their Title XIX program for the worse; they are kicking children who are too high functioning or too low functioning off of the program. Marilyn Pyles Lilburn, GAcyndi bramblett <cyndibramblett@...> wrote: The Tristan R. Bramblett Autism Foundation provides scholarship funds for children needing biomedical and behavioral therapies and not able to receive it due to financial reasons. We awarded three scholarships in Dec. 2005 and will have more to come later this year. Please visit www.trbautismfoundation.org to download a application (it is still valid although it is dated 2005) or for information on how you can help. Our next fundraiser, an Autism Walk is in Birmingham, Alabama on August 5th and all proceeds will go towards scholarships for children needing biomed or behavioral financial assistance. My son (Tristan Bramblett) does not benefit from the foundation in any way - it is only for other children to receive the same therapies that have been so beneficial for Tristan. The organization does not have any paid staff, therefore all proceeds go directly to helping these kids. We are also planning a fundraiser - an in Atlanta in November so if anyone could help coordinate, volunteer or just attend we would really appreciate it. Please feel free to contact me for more info. Thanks, Cyndi BramblettMarilyn Pyles <hillbillyhelper2@...> wrote: Then there are those of us who can not afford to give our children opportunities for treatment not covered by insurance or medicaid. Be grateful that you child has this opportunity. Marilyn Pyles Lilburn, GAderrick_angela_2000 <derrick_angela_2000@...> wrote: Hello,I have really been thinking about ways to make this personal to the public. As I Chelate my son I have to ask myself is he Autistic? No, he was poisoned by the toxic mercury that was in his vaccine. When i speak to people who aren't affected they seem to hear this and understand better when I speak of mercury poisoning. I think we all should assess how we decribe our children's toxic state. A man approached me at the CDC rally and asked why I felt my child's "Autism" was caused by his vaccine? As we began to talk another parent with more in depth scientific knowledge took over the conversation (thank God). During the conversation I noticed this man continued to use the word Autism and not focus on the Mercury issue being discussed. After about 10 min he wished us well and said good-bye. As I watched the news that night that man was the CDC spokesperson Mr Tom Skinner whose said "We at the CDC just don't know what causes Autism." I don't think they hear us because we have grouped our children under this label that has a history of an unknown cause and no cure (plus they don't want to hear us). We know the cause and have seen evidence of cure so we need to assess how we present our cases to the public.We aren't chelating Autism we are chelating Mercury!I know it cost to treat our children and many of us can't travel. I was thinking about something we all can do. Make a one page flyer on your own printer with a picture of your child and a copy of one of his labs that show his mercury level (or other info)and write a note on it "My child was mercury poisoned from his vaccine, request mercury free vaccines". I don't know of anyone who won't read a paper with a kids picture. If we begin tohand these out at parks, leave one in the grocery cart etc... I think we can reach other families. If you do this please mail a copy to Mr Tom SkinnerCDC/Press Office1600 Clifton Rd Atl Ga 30333 Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2006 Report Share Posted July 6, 2006 Dear Cyndi, I would like to volunteer to help with the fund-raising. Please e-mail privately and tell me more. Thanks. Irene. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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