Guest guest Posted November 14, 2006 Report Share Posted November 14, 2006 Scary stuff. Thanks for the information and for taking the time to reply. Penny -------------- Original message from " G. King" <drking@...>: -------------- > "penelope_fam", > > You church might be more concerned about the > potential legal liability it incurred by > bringing "a Visiting Nurses Association > to give shots of mercury on a Sunday morning" > because as of 2005, the influenza vaccines fall > under the purview of the National Vaccine > Injury Compensation Act (NVICA) that, among > other things, as specific minimum requirements > for the administration and recordskeepiong > practices, which, if not met, could expose those > giving such shots in a manner that does not > comply with the law liable for the harm, if any, > such shots might cause to some for whon your > church is legally "responsible" because failing > to give a vaccine in compliance with the statute > removes the protections of the NVICA. > > The statute (42 U.S.C. Section 300aa-25) states > (with CAPITALIZATION added for emphasis): > > > >Sec. 300aa-25. Recording and reporting of > > information > > > >(a) General rule > > Each health care provider who administers > > a vaccine set forth in the Vaccine Injury > > Table to any person shall record, or ensure > > that there is recorded, IN SUCH PERSON'S > > PERMANENT MEDICAL RECORD (OR IN A PERMANENT > > OFFICE LOG OR FILE TO WHICH A LEGAL > > REPRESENTATIVE SHALL HAVE ACCESS UPON > > REQUEST) with respect to each such vaccine - > > (1) the date of administration of the > > vaccine, > > (2) the vaccine manufacturer and lot number > > of the vaccine, > > (3) the name and address and, if appropriate, > > the title of the health care provider > > administering the vaccine, and > > (4) any other identifying information on the > > vaccine required pursuant to regulations > > promulgated by the Secretary. > > > >( Reporting > > (1) Each health care provider and vaccine > > manufacturer shall report to the > > Secretary - > > (A) the occurrence of any event set forth > > in the Vaccine Injury Table, including > > the events set forth in section > > 300aa-14( of this title which occur > > within 7 days of the administration > > of any vaccine set forth in the Table > > or within such longer period as is > > specified in the Table or section, > > > > ( the occurrence of any contraindicating > > reaction to a vaccine which is > > specified in the man ufacturer's > > package insert, and > > © such other matters as the Secretary > > may by regulation require. > > Reports of the matters referred to in > > subparagraphs (A) and ( shall be made > > beginning 90 days after December 22, 1987. > > The Secretary shall publish in the Federal > > Register as soon as practicable after such > > date a notice of the reporting requirement. > > (2) A report under paragraph (1) respecting a > > vaccine shall include the time periods > > after the administration of such vaccine > > within which vaccine-related illnesses, > > disabilities, injuries, or conditions, the > > symptoms and manifestations of such > > illnesses, disabilities, injuries, or > > conditions, or deaths occur, and the > > manufacturer and lot number of the vaccine. > > (3) The Secretar y shall issue the regulations > > referred to in paragraph (1)© within 180 > > days of December 22, 1987. > > > >© Release of information > > (1) Information which is in the possession of > > the Federal Government and State and local > > governments under this section and which > > may identify an individual shall not be > > made available under section 552 of title > > 5, or otherwise, to any person except - > > (A) the person who received the vaccine, or > > ( the legal representative of such person. > > (2) For purposes of paragraph (1), the term > > "information which may identify an > > individual" shall be limited to the name, > > street address, and telephone number of > > the person who received the vaccine and > > of that person's legal representative and > > the medical records of such person relating > > to the administration of the vaccine, and > > shall not include the locality and State > > of vaccine administration, the name of the > > health care provider who administered the > > vaccine, the date of the vaccination, or > > information concerning any reported > > illness, disability, injury, or condition > > resulting from the administration of the > > vaccine, any symptom or manifestation of > > such illness, disability, injury, or > > condition, or death resulting from the > > administration of the vaccine. > > (3) Except as provided in paragraph (1), > > all information reported under this > > section shall be available to the > > public. > > > > Most clinmics do NOT meet these requirements > as the shots are not maintained in each > inoculee's PERMANE NT anything. > > Hopefully, you and all others will carefully > consider these remarks. > > Respectfully. > > Dr. King > > http://www.dr-king.com > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > > At 16:50 11/13/06 -0000, penelope_fam wrote: > > > > > >Could a church risk it's non-profit status if it brought a Visiting > >Nurses Association to give shots of mercury on a Sunday morning. We > >had a flu shot clinic at church yesterday. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2007 Report Share Posted August 28, 2007 Uuuuugh. Our church already has the mercury pushers scheduled for a Sunday morning in early October. > > Could a church risk it's non-profit status if it brought a Visiting > Nurses Association to give shots of mercury on a Sunday morning. We > had a flu shot clinic at church yesterday. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2007 Report Share Posted August 28, 2007 OMG maurinepenelope_fam <p.ray@...> wrote: Uuuuugh. Our church already has the mercury pushers scheduled for aSunday morning in early October.>> Could a church risk it's non-profit status if it brought a Visiting> Nurses Association to give shots of mercury on a Sunday morning. We> had a flu shot clinic at church yesterday.> oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2007 Report Share Posted August 28, 2007 Most flu vaccines are given by needle and are loaded with mercury; they in crease the risk of neurologic disorders beginning 7 hours to 7 days after the injection 4to 22 fold.Inman, SC 29349 (864) 592 8076 Website nitrf.org EOHarm From: maurine_meleck@...Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 06:28:53 -0700Subject: Re: Re: Flu shots at church OMG maurinepenelope_fam <p.ray@...> wrote: Uuuuugh. Our church already has the mercury pushers scheduled for aSunday morning in early October.>> Could a church risk it's non-profit status if it brought a Visiting> Nurses Association to give shots of mercury on a Sunday morning. We> had a flu shot clinic at church yesterday.> oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2007 Report Share Posted August 28, 2007 IT'S WORTH A TRY~H. H.Fudenberg, M.D.,DDG.IOM Inman, SC 29349 (864) 592 8076 Website nitrf.org EOHarm From: p.ray@...Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 13:13:07 +0000Subject: Re: Flu shots at church Uuuuugh. Our church already has the mercury pushers scheduled for a Sunday morning in early October. > > Could a church risk it's non-profit status if it brought a Visiting > Nurses Association to give shots of mercury on a Sunday morning. We > had a flu shot clinic at church yesterday. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2007 Report Share Posted August 29, 2007 Have you tried talking to the pastor? Lol, I've asked my pastor to pray so many times about the vaccine compensation fund if they ever had anything like this he'd probably hide for a year to avoid my finding him! > > Scary stuff. Thanks for the information and for taking the time to reply. > Penny > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2007 Report Share Posted August 29, 2007 The person bringing the visiting nurses in IS a pastor. She's also a NURSE. She's over congregational care. This is the third or fourth year I've begged them to stop pumping mercury into people in a house of worship. They are really annoyed with me. > > > > Scary stuff. Thanks for the information and for taking the time to > reply. > > Penny > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2007 Report Share Posted August 29, 2007 I was tacky about it -- I sent the senior pastor an e-mail and asked him why we're bringing the mercury pushers back this year. He said he'd forward it to the pastor who keeps bringing them because she thinks a little bit of mercury is okay. After I asked her to have RISK info for folks so they could make informed decisions, she gleefully produced CDC propoganda stating that mercury isn't harmful in these shots. *eyeball roll* > > > > Scary stuff. Thanks for the information and for taking the time to > reply. > > Penny > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2007 Report Share Posted August 29, 2007 why don't you print something out about mercury in the shots and hand it out to the congregation.?penelope_fam <p.ray@...> wrote: The person bringing the visiting nurses in IS a pastor. She's also aNURSE. She's over congregational care. This is the third or fourthyear I've begged them to stop pumping mercury into people in a house ofworship. They are really annoyed with me.> >> > Scary stuff. Thanks for the information and for taking the time to> reply.> > Penny> >> >> Shape in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 I have thought about it but don't have the nerve. > > why don't you print something out about mercury in the shots and hand it out to the congregation.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 That is a toughy. The only thing that's gonna change her is God. I'll be praying... Debi > > > The person bringing the visiting nurses in IS a pastor. She's also a > NURSE. She's over congregational care. This is the third or fourth > year I've begged them to stop pumping mercury into people in a house of > worship. They are really annoyed with me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2007 Report Share Posted August 31, 2007 > > > > > > > > >Could a church risk it's non-profit status if it brought a Visiting > > >Nurses Association to give shots of mercury on a Sunday morning. We > > >had a flu shot clinic at church yesterday. > > > > > > > > > Nice they cause out breaks by storing the stuff at grocery stores, and now want to contaminate us at church,If the rest of the public doesn't contaminate us. It all adds up in thier pockets. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2007 Report Share Posted September 6, 2007 The visiting nurses association is providing the nurse/pastor at church with info that mercury is safe in shots: The following link found at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (http://www.cdc.gov) has been sent by xxx @vna.org.Vaccine Safety-Mercury and Vaccines (Thimerosal)http://www.cdc.gov/od/science/iso/concerns/thimerosal.htmAttachment 3: RE_ Emailing_ UMW - Event Raises Awareness About Mercury-Containing Vaccines, Drugs.eml (message/rfc822) Displayed Inline Attachment 4: Vaccine Safety-Mercury and Vaccines (Thimerosal).eml (message/rfc822) Displayed Inline > >> > Could a church risk it's non-profit status if it brought a Visiting> > Nurses Association to give shots of mercury on a Sunday morning. We> > had a flu shot clinic at church yesterday.> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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