Guest guest Posted June 30, 2006 Report Share Posted June 30, 2006 My blood pressure went through the roof reading this! http://www.hawaiireporter.com/story.aspx?8c4f61c3-9ab0-4aff-a864-da60022c50f2 Thimerosal Veto: Saving Vaccines from Trail LawyersSpecial from Hawaii Free PressBy Walden, 6/30/2006 10:52:41 AM Gov. Lingle should be thanked for her “intent to veto” Democrats’ efforts to pander to their trial-lawyer base by banning thimerosal in vaccines in Hawaii (SB2133, SD2, HD2, CD1). In typical Hawai`i Democrat style, this bill began life as a “shell” bill on placentas. This enabled it to slide through first and second readings before the real bill contents were slipped in. First Dwight Takamine (D-Hamakua) amended it to commission a study to establish a single payer health care system in Hawaii. That would have made Hawaii health care function with the same level of speed, fairness and efficiency that all other state government functions enjoy. Then the socialized medicine provisions were toned down and replaced by a program on youth suicide. Finally the real deal became apparent as the thimerosal provisions were slipped into the bill. It is clear from the flurry of letters from the mainland suddenly appearing in the pages of HawaiiReporter.com what is going on here. While Hawaii doctors are leaving and medical care in rural areas is crumbling, Hawaii Democrat legislators are busy rewarding their rich mainland trial lawyer sponsors. Those are the same trial lawyers who cause malpractice insurance rates to go up, driving doctors out of Hawaii and threatening the health care of thousands. The first letter was from a lawyer who says doctors are “ignorant” of medical science. And he should know, after all he is a lawyer. Another letter is from the parent of an autistic child in California who says, “A day after my daughter Kira had her 1-year shot of the MMR, she became a completely different child. She lost the words that she had learned to that point, and has never really spoken again. I have heard countless stories of the same scenario that we have gone through from other parents so there has to be a correlation, and there are very good people working on this issue. If there is even a doubt about this preservative, would it not be worth 1 child to not take the chance.” That sounds compelling but there is one problem: The MMR (Measles, Mumps and Rubella) vaccine has never contained thimerosal. Thimerosal is used only in killed-virus vaccines. MMR is a live-virus vaccine. Therefore if the letter writer is correct, the obvious conclusion is that his daughter’s autism was not caused by thimerosal. A third letter comes from a spokesperson for the National Autism Association who says, “this bill isn't about autism, it's about injecting children with a neurotoxin…” Here is a quote from the NAA website that says it all: “To date, no one has found the exact cause of autism.” The neurotoxin label sounds scary but an Advisory Committee statement from the National Advisory Committee on Immunization of Canada explains: “Almost all research into mercury toxicity has been conducted on methyl mercury….Very little is actually known about ethyl mercury metabolism in humans, including whether it has the same potency as a neurotoxin, whether the blood concentration is ever significant, and even whether it crosses the blood-brain barrier. It is presumed that the majority of ethyl mercury metabolized from thimerosal is rapidly excreted in the stool. The risk, at best, can be described as theoretical.” Methyl-mercury is present is fish who absorb it from the naturally occurring mercury in the ocean. So we are being asked to fear ethyl-mercury in a one-time exposure of very small amounts while consuming larger amounts of methyl mercury every time we eat fish. A Google search for thimerosal neurotoxin finds the Canadian study buried in dozens of links to statements such as: "thimerosal, contains an organic form of mercury, a metal long-known to be a very potent neurotoxin.” (Notice the substitution—it is Mercury, not ethyl mercury which is being labeled as a neurotoxin.) This last statement comes from the website of an Oregon law firm specializing in “Vaccine Injuries.” It is easy for politicians to cave into the agonizing stories of parents with disabled children. This is a method of shielding an argument from scrutiny by using spokespersons which possess “absolute moral authority” due to their status as victims. As Ann Coulter correctly points out victims are sacred in the liberal religion. In fact they are essentially arguing that all the dozens of medical studies looking into their allegations and rejecting any causal link between autism and thimerosal must all be wrong and that their personal suffering entitles them to stop anything they believe to have caused their child’s autism. Governor Lingle has done a service to autistic children everywhere by rejecting the Thimerosal claims. This is one step away from fear mongering claims which might make for a nice juicy lawsuit one day and a step towards autism research which could discover the real cause(s) and develop real treatments. Thousands of lives are at stake but the Democrats and their trial lawyer donors care only about the opportunity for more ill gotten gains. The fact that these gains might be made at the expense of the lives of children who are infected by diseases which might have been prevented by vaccines made no longer available due to lawsuit liability is of no concern to them. Governor Lingle is doing a service to children in the state of Hawaii and worldwide who will be less likely to be dissuaded from taking childhood vaccines because of pseudo-scientific fear-mongering spread to prepare the jury pool for money hungry lawyers. Link to vaccines with Thimerosal: http://www.fda.gov/CBER/vaccine/thimerosal.htm "Vaccine Injury” Trial Lawyers: http://www.wdolaw.com/cases/vaccine_injuries.htm Find out who supported this bill: http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/site1/docs/getstatus2.asp?billno=SB2133 Walden is the publisher and editor of Hawaii Free Press, a Big Island-based newspaper. He can be reached via email at mailto:andrewwalden@... 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Guest guest Posted July 1, 2006 Report Share Posted July 1, 2006 Rather than slug it out (which is what they want you to do why not try to get the governor to reconsider. The bill made it this far. !!Thimerosal Veto: Saving Vaccines from Trail Lawyers!! My blood pressure went through the roof reading this!http://www.hawaiireporter.com/story.aspx?8c4f61c3-9ab0-4aff-a864-da60022c50f2Thimerosal Veto: Saving Vaccines from Trail LawyersSpecial from Hawaii Free PressBy Walden, 6/30/2006 10:52:41 AM Gov. Lingle should be thanked for her “intent to veto” Democrats’ efforts to pander to their trial-lawyer base by banning thimerosal in vaccines in Hawaii (SB2133, SD2, HD2, CD1). In typical Hawai`i Democrat style, this bill began life as a “shell” bill on placentas. This enabled it to slide through first and second readings before the real bill contents were slipped in. First Dwight Takamine (D-Hamakua) amended it to commission a study to establish a single payer health care system in Hawaii. That would have made Hawaii health care function with the same level of speed, fairness and efficiency that all other state government functions enjoy. Then the socialized medicine provisions were toned down and replaced by a program on youth suicide. Finally the real deal became apparent as the thimerosal provisions were slipped into the bill. It is clear from the flurry of letters from the mainland suddenly appearing in the pages of HawaiiReporter.com what is going on here. While Hawaii doctors are leaving and medical care in rural areas is crumbling, Hawaii Democrat legislators are busy rewarding their rich mainland trial lawyer sponsors. Those are the same trial lawyers who cause malpractice insurance rates to go up, driving doctors out of Hawaii and threatening the health care of thousands. The first letter was from a lawyer who says doctors are “ignorant” of medical science. And he should know, after all he is a lawyer. Another letter is from the parent of an autistic child in California who says, “A day after my daughter Kira had her 1-year shot of the MMR, she became a completely different child. She lost the words that she had learned to that point, and has never really spoken again. I have heard countless stories of the same scenario that we have gone through from other parents so there has to be a correlation, and there are very good people working on this issue. If there is even a doubt about this preservative, would it not be worth 1 child to not take the chance.” That sounds compelling but there is one problem: The MMR (Measles, Mumps and Rubella) vaccine has never contained thimerosal. Thimerosal is used only in killed-virus vaccines. MMR is a live-virus vaccine. Therefore if the letter writer is correct, the obvious conclusion is that his daughter’s autism was not caused by thimerosal. A third letter comes from a spokesperson for the National Autism Association who says, “this bill isn't about autism, it's about injecting children with a neurotoxin…” Here is a quote from the NAA website that says it all: “To date, no one has found the exact cause of autism.” The neurotoxin label sounds scary but an Advisory Committee statement from the National Advisory Committee on Immunization of Canada explains: “Almost all research into mercury toxicity has been conducted on methyl mercury….Very little is actually known about ethyl mercury metabolism in humans, including whether it has the same potency as a neurotoxin, whether the blood concentration is ever significant, and even whether it crosses the blood-brain barrier. It is presumed that the majority of ethyl mercury metabolized from thimerosal is rapidly excreted in the stool. The risk, at best, can be described as theoretical.” Methyl-mercury is present is fish who absorb it from the naturally occurring mercury in the ocean. So we are being asked to fear ethyl-mercury in a one-time exposure of very small amounts while consuming larger amounts of methyl mercury every time we eat fish. A Google search for thimerosal neurotoxin finds the Canadian study buried in dozens of links to statements such as: "thimerosal, contains an organic form of mercury, a metal long-known to be a very potent neurotoxin.” (Notice the substitution—it is Mercury, not ethyl mercury which is being labeled as a neurotoxin.) This last statement comes from the website of an Oregon law firm specializing in “Vaccine Injuries.” It is easy for politicians to cave into the agonizing stories of parents with disabled children. This is a method of shielding an argument from scrutiny by using spokespersons which possess “absolute moral authority” due to their status as victims. As Ann Coulter correctly points out victims are sacred in the liberal religion. In fact they are essentially arguing that all the dozens of medical studies looking into their allegations and rejecting any causal link between autism and thimerosal must all be wrong and that their personal suffering entitles them to stop anything they believe to have caused their child’s autism. Governor Lingle has done a service to autistic children everywhere by rejecting the Thimerosal claims. This is one step away from fear mongering claims which might make for a nice juicy lawsuit one day and a step towards autism research which could discover the real cause(s) and develop real treatments. Thousands of lives are at stake but the Democrats and their trial lawyer donors care only about the opportunity for more ill gotten gains. The fact that these gains might be made at the expense of the lives of children who are infected by diseases which might have been prevented by vaccines made no longer available due to lawsuit liability is of no concern to them. Governor Lingle is doing a service to children in the state of Hawaii and worldwide who will be less likely to be dissuaded from taking childhood vaccines because of pseudo-scientific fear-mongering spread to prepare the jury pool for money hungry lawyers. Link to vaccines with Thimerosal: http://www.fda.gov/CBER/vaccine/thimerosal.htm "Vaccine Injury” Trial Lawyers: http://www.wdolaw.com/cases/vaccine_injuries.htm Find out who supported this bill: http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/site1/docs/getstatus2.asp?billno=SB2133 Walden is the publisher and editor of Hawaii Free Press, a Big Island-based newspaper. He can be reached via email at mailto:andrewwalden@... 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Guest guest Posted July 1, 2006 Report Share Posted July 1, 2006 Who's slugging it out? The governor has received lots of comments and scientific info..see letter below..This guy has an ulterior motive. This is what we are up against in every state. To my knowledge, they did not print Dr. McCandless's letter..and it is excellent. I went with a group to Honolulu to present all the scientific evidence to the governor (actually to her lieutenant governor, who seemed deeply interested in what we had to say and even held the meeting overtime seemingly to get all the info possible) for the need to get Hg out of the vaccines. I also participated in two radio interviews/debates, but to no avail as Governor Lingle did in fact veto the bill that had been passed in Legislature. I could not resist responding to the thank-you to her by the physicians' " pro-mercury " group there: We'll see if they actually publish my letter, though they do promise to if it is " written clearly. " Jaquelyn My Editorial: Dear Editor: As an autism specialist who has worked with many hundreds of children on the autism spectrum in the last ten years, I was dismayed to even read the phrase " pro-mercury doctors " in their letter of appreciation to the HI governor for vetoing the anti-thimerosal bill. This can be read as " pro-poison doctors " by anyone who takes the trouble to read the science behind the immunological and gastrointestinal devastation that injected mercury causes to an infant or small child who is genetically/immunologically disadvantaged. The overwhelming scientific evidence by top-rate scientists on the neurotoxicity of thimerosal is totally being ignored by this group; they are accepting epidemiological studies that overlook a substantial sub-group of children who cannot genetically get rid of this poison that is injected into their bodies. As it accumulates the brain is " starved " and the child is unable to relate, learn, and use language the way normal children do. This " herd mentality " says that one in 166 children can be sacrificed at the alter of continuing a process seen as barbaric and inhumane by many other countries that have outlawed the use of mercury in vaccines. Four of the five epidemiological studies on which the CDC and IOM based their (IMO) erroneous decision that mercury was not associated with autism were done by the very pharmacological companies that make the vaccines. Guess who profits from this veto? Vaccine-makers and politicians who are supported by their large contributions, not our helpless children - autism is one of the most cruel and terrible disorders that can beset a family, medically, emotionally, and financially. This disorder stands to bankrupt not only the inflicted families, but our woefully inadequate educational and social welfare systems, already burdened by the ever increasing numbers of these children and adolescents, soon to be adults that may need life-long care. Beginning studies that showed a connection and recommendation by our health agencies that mercury be removed from children's vaccines were eventually " watered down " as they eliminated certain groups to finally come up with a result favoring the continuation of injecting a known neurotoxin into children regardless of their immune status. Thimerosal is only a disinfectant, and if vaccines are given in single vials no disinfectant is required. However, the parents need to insist on these single vial vaccines, and there are plenty available for only a very small higher cost. Vaccine companies that can make the multiple dose vaccines do not have to use such impeccable sterile techniques if they can fill the vials up with a poison - this is their rationale for the use of thimerosal, the savings to the parents. Since the cost of medically and educationally raising an autistic child is over $2 million dollars, the cost of saving a small amount on a poisoned vaccine does not make humane or economic sense. In my opinion, these doctors have violated their oath as physicians to " do no harm " , and I hope that parents who are the ones who will have to care for their injured children for life will steadfastly refuse to have any vaccine injected into their children that contains mercury. Jaquelyn McCandless, M.D., Autism Specialist Certified by the American Board of Psychiatry and Neurology Author of " Children with Starving Brains, a Medical Treatment Guide for Autism Spectrum Disorder, " (Currently residing in Hawaii) > > Rather than slug it out (which is what they want you to do why not try to get the governor to reconsider. The bill made it this far. > > > !!Thimerosal Veto: Saving Vaccines from Trail Lawyers!! > > > My blood pressure went through the roof reading this! > > > > http://www.hawaiireporter.com/story.aspx?8c4f61c3-9ab0-4aff-a864-da60022c50f2 > > Thimerosal Veto: Saving Vaccines from Trail Lawyers > Special from Hawaii Free Press > By Walden, 6/30/2006 10:52:41 AM > > Gov. Lingle should be thanked for her " intent to veto " Democrats' efforts to pander to their trial-lawyer base by banning thimerosal in vaccines in Hawaii (SB2133, SD2, HD2, CD1). > In typical Hawai`i Democrat style, this bill began life as a " shell " bill on placentas. This enabled it to slide through first and second readings before the real bill contents were slipped in. First Dwight Takamine (D-Hamakua) amended it to commission a study to establish a single payer health care system in Hawaii. That would have made Hawaii health care function with the same level of speed, fairness and efficiency that all other state government functions enjoy. Then the socialized medicine provisions were toned down and replaced by a program on youth suicide. Finally the real deal became apparent as the thimerosal provisions were slipped into the bill. > It is clear from the flurry of letters from the mainland suddenly appearing in the pages of HawaiiReporter.com what is going on here. While Hawaii doctors are leaving and medical care in rural areas is crumbling, Hawaii Democrat legislators are busy rewarding their rich mainland trial lawyer sponsors. Those are the same trial lawyers who cause malpractice insurance rates to go up, driving doctors out of Hawaii and threatening the health care of thousands. > The first letter was from a lawyer who says doctors are " ignorant " of medical science. And he should know, after all he is a lawyer. Another letter is from the parent of an autistic child in California who says, " A day after my daughter Kira had her 1-year shot of the MMR, she became a completely different child. She lost the words that she had learned to that point, and has never really spoken again. I have heard countless stories of the same scenario that we have gone through from other parents so there has to be a correlation, and there are very good people working on this issue. If there is even a doubt about this preservative, would it not be worth 1 child to not take the chance. " > That sounds compelling but there is one problem: The MMR (Measles, Mumps and Rubella) vaccine has never contained thimerosal. Thimerosal is used only in killed-virus vaccines. MMR is a live-virus vaccine. Therefore if the letter writer is correct, the obvious conclusion is that his daughter's autism was not caused by thimerosal. A third letter comes from a spokesperson for the National Autism Association who says, " this bill isn't about autism, it's about injecting children with a neurotoxin. " > Here is a quote from the NAA website that says it all: " To date, no one has found the exact cause of autism. " > The neurotoxin label sounds scary but an Advisory Committee statement from the National Advisory Committee on Immunization of Canada explains: " Almost all research into mercury toxicity has been conducted on methyl mercury..Very little is actually known about ethyl mercury metabolism in humans, including whether it has the same potency as a neurotoxin, whether the blood concentration is ever significant, and even whether it crosses the blood-brain barrier. It is presumed that the majority of ethyl mercury metabolized from thimerosal is rapidly excreted in the stool. The risk, at best, can be described as theoretical. " > Methyl-mercury is present is fish who absorb it from the naturally occurring mercury in the ocean. So we are being asked to fear ethyl-mercury in a one-time exposure of very small amounts while consuming larger amounts of methyl mercury every time we eat fish. A Google search for thimerosal neurotoxin finds the Canadian study buried in dozens of links to statements such as: " thimerosal, contains an organic form of mercury, a metal long-known to be a very potent neurotoxin. " (Notice the substitution-it is Mercury, not ethyl mercury which is being labeled as a neurotoxin.) This last statement comes from the website of an Oregon law firm specializing in " Vaccine Injuries. " > It is easy for politicians to cave into the agonizing stories of parents with disabled children. This is a method of shielding an argument from scrutiny by using spokespersons which possess " absolute moral authority " due to their status as victims. As Ann Coulter correctly points out victims are sacred in the liberal religion. In fact they are essentially arguing that all the dozens of medical studies looking into their allegations and rejecting any causal link between autism and thimerosal must all be wrong and that their personal suffering entitles them to stop anything they believe to have caused their child's autism. > Governor Lingle has done a service to autistic children everywhere by rejecting the Thimerosal claims. This is one step away from fear mongering claims which might make for a nice juicy lawsuit one day and a step towards autism research which could discover the real cause(s) and develop real treatments. > Thousands of lives are at stake but the Democrats and their trial lawyer donors care only about the opportunity for more ill gotten gains. The fact that these gains might be made at the expense of the lives of children who are infected by diseases which might have been prevented by vaccines made no longer available due to lawsuit liability is of no concern to them. > Governor Lingle is doing a service to children in the state of Hawaii and worldwide who will be less likely to be dissuaded from taking childhood vaccines because of pseudo-scientific fear-mongering spread to prepare the jury pool for money hungry lawyers. > Link to vaccines with Thimerosal: > http://www.fda.gov/CBER/vaccine/thimerosal.htm > " Vaccine Injury " Trial Lawyers: > http://www.wdolaw.com/cases/vaccine_injuries.htm > Find out who supported this bill: > http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/site1/docs/getstatus2.asp?billno=SB2133 > Walden is the publisher and editor of Hawaii Free Press, a Big Island-based newspaper. He can be reached via email at mailto:andrewwalden@... > HawaiiReporter.com reports the real news, and prints all editorials submitted, even if they do not represent the viewpoint of the editors, as long as they are written clearly. Send editorials to mailto:Malia@... > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > How low will we go? Check out Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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