Guest guest Posted September 29, 2006 Report Share Posted September 29, 2006 From CAN: Chairman Barton Stops Combating Autism Act - For Now Remaining Hope with Boehner/Hastert House Energy and Commerce Committee Chairman Joe Barton (TX) will not consider the Senate-passed Combating Autism Act in the House this session. He remains steadfastly unmoved and unimpressed by over 200 House members and a unanimous Senate. Without regard to the merits of our bill or the desperate state of our children, he indicated he would not even consider it without passage of his NIH Reform bill—an impossibility this Congress. In the end, his personal legislative agenda outweighed the needs of hundreds of thousands of children with autism. He would only consider a bill devoid of any NIH provisions, including environmental research, and that is unacceptable to the autism community. Let Chairman Barton know how you feel! Call Barton today and let him know that it is unacceptable for our elected officials to put personal, political interests ahead of your sick children! Call Rep. Barton today at 202-225-2002. Keep calling until you get through. Let's jam his phone lines and make ourselves heard. Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert (IL) has thus far refused to intervene on our children's behalf. His Office of the Speaker website states: " At home we put children first, and Republicans are doing just that in the House " . Ask him to back that up and put S.843 on the House suspension calendar! Call Speaker Hastert at 202- 225-0600 and ask him to do what's right for children with autism. Majority Leader Boehner (OH) has been unwilling to stand up to Chairman Barton! Let him know you expect him to show the leadership it takes to do the right thing for hundreds of thousands of children and put S.843 on the House suspension calendar. Call Majority Leader Boehner at 202-225-4000 today and make your voice heard! Our fight is far from over! Call all three representatives today and let them hear the full voice of the autism community. We will speak for our children, because they cannot. Thank you for your support! For complete information about the Combating Autism Act of 2006, or to contact us, go to www.combatautism.org. About The Combating Autism Act of 2006 The Combating Autism Act of 2006 builds on the provisions of the Children's Health Act of 2000 and would authorize approximately $920 million in federal funds over five years to combat autism through research, screening, intervention and education. The Combating Autism Act of 2006 is supported by the following autism organizations: Autism One Autism Society of America Autism Speaks COSAC Cure Autism Now Dan Marino Foundation Doug Flutie Jr. Foundation First Signs Generation Rescue The Help Group National Autism Association Organization for Autism Research S.A.F.E. Inc. SafeMinds Southwest Autism Research & Resource Center Talk About Curing Autism TalkAutism The Deirdre Imus Environmental Center for Pediatric Oncology Unlocking Autism US Autism and Asperger Association > > > > > > Anyone know if this is true? Someone posted it to my local board. > > > " The Combating Autism Bill is set to die today without being > > introduced > > > to the House, although more than 200 Representatives have signed > on > > > (218 for majority). " > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2006 Report Share Posted September 30, 2006 Knowing the history of Sen. Santorum's style, I wouldn't be surprised if this was the way the CAA was suppose to die all along. Barton's reason for holding up this rather benign bi-partisan legislation seems a little too pat. After all, Santorum got what he wanted out of it: a big poster endorsement-esque advertisement in the newspaper with all, well almost all, autism organizations signing on to it. I admit this is speculation on my part. But I would not be surprised to find out that Santorum winked at Barton on the fate of the CAA all along. Oh my, I'm being negative again... Lenny > > Anyone know if this is true? Someone posted it to my local board. > " The Combating Autism Bill is set to die today without being introduced > to the House, although more than 200 Representatives have signed on > (218 for majority). " > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2006 Report Share Posted September 30, 2006 Negativity must be in the water. Because I’ve been drinking it all day. - From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of schaferatsprynet Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 9:57 PM EOHarm Subject: Re: Combating Autism Act Knowing the history of Sen. Santorum's style, I wouldn't be surprised if this was the way the CAA was suppose to die all along. Barton's reason for holding up this rather benign bi-partisan legislation seems a little too pat. After all, Santorum got what he wanted out of it: a big poster endorsement-esque advertisement in the newspaper with all, well almost all, autism organizations signing on to it. I admit this is speculation on my part. But I would not be surprised to find out that Santorum winked at Barton on the fate of the CAA all along. Oh my, I'm being negative again... Lenny > > Anyone know if this is true? Someone posted it to my local board. > " The Combating Autism Bill is set to die today without being introduced > to the House, although more than 200 Representatives have signed on > (218 for majority). " > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2006 Report Share Posted September 30, 2006 > > > > Anyone know if this is true? Someone posted it to my local board. > > " The Combating Autism Bill is set to die today without being introduced > > to the House, although more than 200 Representatives have signed on > > (218 for majority). " > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2006 Report Share Posted October 1, 2006 I have no problem with your comments that are directed towards Santorum and/or the CAA.... What I DO have a problem with is your INSINUATION that non-profit organizations placed an ENDORSEMENT ad for him in a newspaper....and since you weren't involved in the conference-call when the ad was discussed among the groups who placed it, and since there is no mention of " endorsement " anywhere in the ad, I'd strongly suggest that you think twice before lodging your " opinions " on that are aimed at fellow parents and organizations. Regarding me " reading into your comment " ....let's get real, Lenny. Just recently, you posted two messages and made comments about this very subject and a member of your own group wrote an e-mail to the members of several organizations who placed the ad, questioning their jugdgment and motives in a tone that was " less than respectful " ....I know a JAB when I see one, and your comment was exactly that, a JAB. Referring to other parents and organizations as " victims who've been exploited " because they decide to approach an issue in a way that you don't agree with is exactly the kind of behavior and rhetoric that will continue to widen the gap between groups within our community. It's disrespectful and uncalled for and moves us nowhere towards unity. And so, as Woody so eloquently said to Sid in Toy Story, " PLAY NICE " ... Kelli > > > > > > > > Anyone know if this is true? Someone posted it to my local board. > > > > " The Combating Autism Bill is set to die today without being > > introduced > > > > to the House, although more than 200 Representatives have signed > > on > > > > (218 for majority). " > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2006 Report Share Posted October 1, 2006 Henry, See my response to Lenny's post....Santorum and/or CAA are all issues that need to be discussed....I am in complete agreement on that.... Kelli > > > > > > > > Anyone know if this is true? Someone posted it to my local board. > > > > " The Combating Autism Bill is set to die today without being > > introduced > > > > to the House, although more than 200 Representatives have signed > > on > > > > (218 for majority). " > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2006 Report Share Posted October 1, 2006 Kelli, There was an ad run in the Pittsburgh paper thanking him for his support -- sure looked and smelled like an endorsement to me. He's in a very contentious race right now and is loosing by double digits. His tv ads have become very negative and outright slanderous -- so he's looking for help from everyone and anyone... Diane > > > > > > The target of my comment is Santorum. If you want to read into it > more > > than that, I would suggest that that's your projection. I'm not > > blaming the victim(s)of his exploitations. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2006 Report Share Posted October 1, 2006 Kelli, I see you are bound and determined to pick a fight here with your provocative tone. Sorry, no dice. My " jabs " are at mistakes, not at people. Love, Lenny > > > > > > > > > > Anyone know if this is true? Someone posted it to my local > board. > > > > > " The Combating Autism Bill is set to die today without being > > > introduced > > > > > to the House, although more than 200 Representatives have > signed > > > on > > > > > (218 for majority). " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2006 Report Share Posted October 1, 2006 Diane, THANKING him for his work on the CAA (which, btw we also did with Dodd in his local paper)and ENDORSING him are two completely different things....it just so happens that the CAA passed the Senate at the time that it did....seems to me, if we had REALLY wanted to endorse him, we'd wait until closer to election day.....cuz you know how Americans are....so quick to forget.... Bottom Line: What you're " suggesting " is a serious allegation that could jeopardize an organization's status (IF IT WERE TRUE) and so I'll suggest, once again, that you show some respect and restraint towards fellow parents and organizations when commenting on this issue.... Kelli > > > > > > > > > The target of my comment is Santorum. If you want to read into > it > > more > > > than that, I would suggest that that's your projection. I'm not > > > blaming the victim(s)of his exploitations. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2006 Report Share Posted October 2, 2006 Kelli, If you would just rest your sword for a minute and listen you might save yourself some energy. I never said my opinion was anything more than my opinion. Just like belly buttons, everyone is entitled to have one. Where are you getting this stuff? All I said was that Santorum got what he wanted with a large ad that has a strong appearance of an endorsement from autism groups, and then he screwed us after he got it. I think it would be a good idea if we all got together and put a big ad in the paper, this time calling Santorum (and not Barton) a jerk for exploiting the desperation of autism/vaccine damaged children. Don't get mad at me, I didn't dump you, he did. > If you want me to stop questioning your " below the belt " antics. . . Your interest in that part of my anatomy is flattering, even if only rhetorical. Clearly, you are quite intelligent in your interests. You know what they say, big feet. . .big shoes. Alas, I am taken. Love lenny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2006 Report Share Posted October 2, 2006 Lenny, How did Santorum " screw us " after the ad ran?? And how has he " dumped us " ??? I personally worked and met with Jen Vesey on this issue throughout the whole process....and the bill passed the Senate UNAMIOUSLY....seems to me, he did his job.... What I find " interesting " is the fact that the NIH Reform bill passed the House with only 2 votes on the " Nay " side.... Now, WHY would Barton hold that bill in his committee all this time if he knew he had all this support in the House??? Wonder if it has anything to do with the fact that the bill is now headed for the Senate HELP committee....the same committee that oversaw the CAA bill....hummmmm But, forget about the politics right now.... Back to the ORIGINAL issue: (MY RESPONSE IN CAPS) Where are you getting this stuff? FROM YOUR OWN POSTS...LIKE THIS ONE BELOW: All I said was that Santorum got what he wanted with a large ad that has a strong appearance of an endorsement from autism groups,... AND I'LL SAY IT AGAIN AND THEN I'M FINISHED....THE AD WAS NOT AN ENDORSEMENT OF SANTORUM....TO " SUGGEST " THAT IT WAS IMPLIES THAT YOU BELIEVE NON-PROFIT ORGANIZATIONS DID SOMETHING ILLEGAL....SO IN THIS CASE, YOUR " OPINION " (BELLYBUTTON) CARRIES SOME PRETTY HEAVY AMMO AIMED AT OTHER PARENTS! AND IN MY OPINION, YOU'RE STEPPING " OVER THE LINE " .... END OF DISCUSSION (AT LEAST FOR ME) KELLI > > > If you want me to stop questioning your " below the belt " antics. . . > > Your interest in that part of my anatomy is flattering, even if only > rhetorical. Clearly, you are quite intelligent in your interests. You > know what they say, big feet. . .big shoes. Alas, I am taken. > > Love lenny > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2006 Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 Your friend Santorum is not the only culprit in the fall of the CAA. Bill Frist also has his hand in this, too according to my sources First off, Rep. Barton passed his NIH bill on Tuesday in the House so his plate was clean to go do whatever he wanted. To hold up the CAA for his NIH bill is a sham. Chairman Barton isn't a big fish in the Republican pond. He holds the position he does because he is a good captain that follows the orders that come down from leadership. The fact that Hastert and Boehner have refused to intervene is revealing -- obviously under little pressure from Sens. Frist or Santorum to do so. The CAA isn't about national security or a difference of opinion about social/moral issues that might understandably hang it up. This is a authorization bill for research into a childhood disorder that some very important people wanted. Santorum and Frist were happy to take the positive PR and gratitude from The s and Imus (they didn't give a rat's ass about the rest of us) but they didn't lift a finger to do anything to move the bill once it left the senate and Santorum got his " endorsement " ad, as they would have if it were a bill they really cared about. As soon as the CAA passed the senate there was no 'Dear Colleague' letter sent over to the House with the bill. That should have been written and signed by Santorum, Dodd, and Frist and then sent over to every member of the House the day after the bill passed in the senate. It wasn't. Instead there was a big " thank you " letter published in the PA paper. Obviously the Santorum people had their priorities in order all along....getting Santorum re-elected, CAA was secondary. Why didn't Sen. Frist and Santorum send out a 'Dear Colleague' letter? Why weren't they calling the lousy 28 members needed to pass the bill? Why won't Hastert or Boehner intervene? Because Frist didn't call and tell them to put CAA on the calendar. It is that simple. This was the plan all along and consistent with the way Frist et al operates. He had Dick Armey take the fall for the Eli Lilly rider while he hide under his desk. Barton might very well be doing what he is being told to do. Take the heat for killing a bill we know the AAP and pharma doesn't want, even as weak as it is. Frist and Hastert (mostly Frist) are the ones who finally stopped the CAA. The bill failed because the autism community allowed Santorum people to run the show putting it together, people with a conflicting agenda and who would put no pressure on Santorum or Frist to get involved in the House battle. It is a complete waste of time to target Barton....he's only a decoy fall guy, and it is only more disappointing bad judgment to do so. Bashing me with upper-case screaming for pointing out how your Senate political pals ripped off the autism community is not the kind of insight and savvy one expects to see from self-described insider leadership people like yourself -- people who talk to powerful politicians representing the interests of the autism community. If there's a new CAA next time around, it must protect, not compromise the truth. The autism community must have the truth. That means true research with true controls against political interests and corruption. It is the truth or nothing. Next time we demand the truth or know why. Lenny Schafer Izak's dad > > Lenny, > > How did Santorum " screw us " after the ad ran?? And how has > he " dumped us " ??? > > I personally worked and met with Jen Vesey on this issue throughout > the whole process....and the bill passed the Senate > UNAMIOUSLY....seems to me, he did his job.... > > What I find " interesting " is the fact that the NIH Reform bill > passed the House with only 2 votes on the " Nay " side.... > > Now, WHY would Barton hold that bill in his committee all this time > if he knew he had all this support in the House??? > > Wonder if it has anything to do with the fact that the bill is now > headed for the Senate HELP committee....the same committee that > oversaw the CAA bill....hummmmm > > But, forget about the politics right now.... -sniop- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2006 Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 Lenny: GREAT SUMMARY! Thanks for 'telling it like it is'... > > > > Lenny, > > > > How did Santorum " screw us " after the ad ran?? And how has > > he " dumped us " ??? > > > > I personally worked and met with Jen Vesey on this issue throughout > > the whole process....and the bill passed the Senate > > UNAMIOUSLY....seems to me, he did his job.... > > > > What I find " interesting " is the fact that the NIH Reform bill > > passed the House with only 2 votes on the " Nay " side.... > > > > Now, WHY would Barton hold that bill in his committee all this time > > if he knew he had all this support in the House??? > > > > Wonder if it has anything to do with the fact that the bill is now > > headed for the Senate HELP committee....the same committee that > > oversaw the CAA bill....hummmmm > > > > But, forget about the politics right now.... > -sniop- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2006 Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 To be frank, what did we expect? Your government mandated the poisoning of your children; If you tried to avoid the mandates, they stole your children through child services and poisoned the children anyway; When your child became disabled from being vaccinated (the equivalent of dumping your child numerous times in a toxic waste dump) they denied there was anything wrong or if there was, it couldn't be them or their vaccine protocol, it must be the child's genes; They have used public funded research institutions whose mission is the public health to essentially deny the obvious and prevent the true causation of the epidemic from ever being officially recognized- that way none of the lawsuits could ever go forward or be successful; They separately prevented you from suing or otherwise seeking restitution; They forced you into bankruptcy under the financial duress you suffered helping your children; Then they allowed discimination against you and your child in HMO's and and on other insurance; And they refused to take the poison out of the vaccines, proactively working to overturn legislation designed to protect unborn babies and infants; And they work overtime to corrupt the idiots in the mainstream media to make sure that all of the blue haired people never figure out this sordid affair; All the while they use public funds to promote a flu vaccine for babies and pregnant women which contains high levels of mercury and, based upon their own data, is not even effective. And you're complaining that they merely fu__cked everyone on this legislation? That has become the order of the day in this society. Re: Combating Autism Act Your friend Santorum is not the only culprit in the fall of the CAA. Bill Frist also has his hand in this, too according to my sourcesFirst off, Rep. Barton passed his NIH bill on Tuesday in the House sohis plate was clean to go do whatever he wanted. To hold up the CAAfor his NIH bill is a sham.Chairman Barton isn't a big fish in the Republican pond. He holds theposition he does because he is a good captain that follows the ordersthat come down from leadership. The fact that Hastert and Boehner have refused to intervene isrevealing -- obviously under little pressure from Sens. Frist orSantorum to do so. The CAA isn't about national security or a difference of opinion aboutsocial/moral issues that might understandably hang it up. This is aauthorization bill for research into a childhood disorder that somevery important people wanted. Santorum and Frist were happy to takethe positive PR and gratitude from The s and Imus (they didn'tgive a rat's ass about the rest of us) but they didn't lift a fingerto do anything to move the bill once it left the senate and Santorumgot his "endorsement" ad, as they would have if it were a bill theyreally cared about.As soon as the CAA passed the senate there was no 'Dear Colleague'letter sent over to the House with the bill. That should have beenwritten and signed by Santorum, Dodd, and Frist and then sent over toevery member of the House the day after the bill passed in the senate.It wasn't. Instead there was a big "thank you" letter published in thePA paper. Obviously the Santorum people had their priorities in order allalong....getting Santorum re-elected, CAA was secondary. Why didn't Sen. Frist and Santorum send out a 'Dear Colleague' letter?Why weren't they calling the lousy 28 members needed to pass the bill?Why won't Hastert or Boehner intervene? Because Frist didn't call andtell them to put CAA on the calendar. It is that simple. This was the plan all along and consistent with the way Frist et aloperates. He had Dick Armey take the fall for the Eli Lilly riderwhile he hide under his desk. Barton might very well be doing what he is being told to do. Take theheat for killing a bill we know the AAP and pharma doesn't want, evenas weak as it is. Frist and Hastert (mostly Frist) are the ones who finally stopped theCAA. The bill failed because the autism community allowed Santorumpeople to run the show putting it together, people with a conflictingagenda and who would put no pressure on Santorum or Frist to getinvolved in the House battle. It is a complete waste of time to target Barton....he's only a decoyfall guy, and it is only more disappointing bad judgment to do so.Bashing me with upper-case screaming for pointing out how your Senatepolitical pals ripped off the autism community is not the kind ofinsight and savvy one expects to see from self-described insiderleadership people like yourself -- people who talk to powerfulpoliticians representing the interests of the autism community. If there's a new CAA next time around, it must protect, not compromisethe truth. The autism community must have the truth. That means trueresearch with true controls against political interests andcorruption. It is the truth or nothing. Next time we demand thetruth or know why.Lenny SchaferIzak's dad>> Lenny,> > How did Santorum "screw us" after the ad ran?? And how has > he "dumped us"??? > > I personally worked and met with Jen Vesey on this issue throughout > the whole process....and the bill passed the Senate > UNAMIOUSLY....seems to me, he did his job....> > What I find "interesting" is the fact that the NIH Reform bill > passed the House with only 2 votes on the "Nay" side....> > Now, WHY would Barton hold that bill in his committee all this time > if he knew he had all this support in the House???> > Wonder if it has anything to do with the fact that the bill is now > headed for the Senate HELP committee....the same committee that > oversaw the CAA bill....hummmmm> > But, forget about the politics right now....-sniop- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2006 Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 Burton and Weldon, by their silence, foretold this reality. Re: Combating Autism Act Your friend Santorum is not the only culprit in the fall of the CAA. Bill Frist also has his hand in this, too according to my sourcesFirst off, Rep. Barton passed his NIH bill on Tuesday in the House sohis plate was clean to go do whatever he wanted. To hold up the CAAfor his NIH bill is a sham.Chairman Barton isn't a big fish in the Republican pond. He holds theposition he does because he is a good captain that follows the ordersthat come down from leadership. The fact that Hastert and Boehner have refused to intervene isrevealing -- obviously under little pressure from Sens. Frist orSantorum to do so. The CAA isn't about national security or a difference of opinion aboutsocial/moral issues that might understandably hang it up. This is aauthorization bill for research into a childhood disorder that somevery important people wanted. Santorum and Frist were happy to takethe positive PR and gratitude from The s and Imus (they didn'tgive a rat's ass about the rest of us) but they didn't lift a fingerto do anything to move the bill once it left the senate and Santorumgot his "endorsement" ad, as they would have if it were a bill theyreally cared about.As soon as the CAA passed the senate there was no 'Dear Colleague'letter sent over to the House with the bill. That should have beenwritten and signed by Santorum, Dodd, and Frist and then sent over toevery member of the House the day after the bill passed in the senate.It wasn't. Instead there was a big "thank you" letter published in thePA paper. Obviously the Santorum people had their priorities in order allalong....getting Santorum re-elected, CAA was secondary. Why didn't Sen. Frist and Santorum send out a 'Dear Colleague' letter?Why weren't they calling the lousy 28 members needed to pass the bill?Why won't Hastert or Boehner intervene? Because Frist didn't call andtell them to put CAA on the calendar. It is that simple. This was the plan all along and consistent with the way Frist et aloperates. He had Dick Armey take the fall for the Eli Lilly riderwhile he hide under his desk. Barton might very well be doing what he is being told to do. Take theheat for killing a bill we know the AAP and pharma doesn't want, evenas weak as it is. Frist and Hastert (mostly Frist) are the ones who finally stopped theCAA. The bill failed because the autism community allowed Santorumpeople to run the show putting it together, people with a conflictingagenda and who would put no pressure on Santorum or Frist to getinvolved in the House battle. It is a complete waste of time to target Barton....he's only a decoyfall guy, and it is only more disappointing bad judgment to do so.Bashing me with upper-case screaming for pointing out how your Senatepolitical pals ripped off the autism community is not the kind ofinsight and savvy one expects to see from self-described insiderleadership people like yourself -- people who talk to powerfulpoliticians representing the interests of the autism community. If there's a new CAA next time around, it must protect, not compromisethe truth. The autism community must have the truth. That means trueresearch with true controls against political interests andcorruption. It is the truth or nothing. Next time we demand thetruth or know why.Lenny SchaferIzak's dad>> Lenny,> > How did Santorum "screw us" after the ad ran?? And how has > he "dumped us"??? > > I personally worked and met with Jen Vesey on this issue throughout > the whole process....and the bill passed the Senate > UNAMIOUSLY....seems to me, he did his job....> > What I find "interesting" is the fact that the NIH Reform bill > passed the House with only 2 votes on the "Nay" side....> > Now, WHY would Barton hold that bill in his committee all this time > if he knew he had all this support in the House???> > Wonder if it has anything to do with the fact that the bill is now > headed for the Senate HELP committee....the same committee that > oversaw the CAA bill....hummmmm> > But, forget about the politics right now....-sniop- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2006 Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 The ONLY thing I will comment on in this " opinion piece " is the following: I wasn't screaming...I was replying to a few sentences of yours and put my comments in caps so it would be clear what you wrote and what I wrote....why would I scream?? Second, I've spoken directly with both Steve Northrup (HELP committee) yesterday and Jen Vesey (Santroum's point person on CAA) this morning....their " behind the scenes " involvement with this bill continues and I will leave it at that.... Kelli Miles' mom > > > > Lenny, > > > > How did Santorum " screw us " after the ad ran?? And how has > > he " dumped us " ??? > > > > I personally worked and met with Jen Vesey on this issue throughout > > the whole process....and the bill passed the Senate > > UNAMIOUSLY....seems to me, he did his job.... > > > > What I find " interesting " is the fact that the NIH Reform bill > > passed the House with only 2 votes on the " Nay " side.... > > > > Now, WHY would Barton hold that bill in his committee all this time > > if he knew he had all this support in the House??? > > > > Wonder if it has anything to do with the fact that the bill is now > > headed for the Senate HELP committee....the same committee that > > oversaw the CAA bill....hummmmm > > > > But, forget about the politics right now.... > -sniop- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2006 Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 My suggestion- forget the CAA- just have them go diddle a Paige; They appear to be so much better at that anyway. At least there might be someone in the process who wishes to get screwed. Re: Combating Autism Act The ONLY thing I will comment on in this "opinion piece" is the following:I wasn't screaming...I was replying to a few sentences of yours and put my comments in caps so it would be clear what you wrote and what I wrote....why would I scream?? Second, I've spoken directly with both Steve Northrup (HELP committee) yesterday and Jen Vesey (Santroum's point person on CAA) this morning....their "behind the scenes" involvement with this bill continues and I will leave it at that....KelliMiles' mom> >> > Lenny,> > > > How did Santorum "screw us" after the ad ran?? And how has > > he "dumped us"??? > > > > I personally worked and met with Jen Vesey on this issue throughout > > the whole process....and the bill passed the Senate > > UNAMIOUSLY....seems to me, he did his job....> > > > What I find "interesting" is the fact that the NIH Reform bill > > passed the House with only 2 votes on the "Nay" side....> > > > Now, WHY would Barton hold that bill in his committee all this time > > if he knew he had all this support in the House???> > > > Wonder if it has anything to do with the fact that the bill is now > > headed for the Senate HELP committee....the same committee that > > oversaw the CAA bill....hummmmm> > > > But, forget about the politics right now....> -sniop-> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2006 Report Share Posted October 3, 2006 You sum it up well, Henry. The problems are deeply overwhelming. I wonder if we'll all turn this around... > > To be frank, what did we expect? > > Your government mandated the poisoning of your children; > > If you tried to avoid the mandates, they stole your children through child services and poisoned the children anyway; > > When your child became disabled from being vaccinated (the equivalent of dumping your child numerous times in a toxic waste dump) they denied there was anything wrong or if there was, it couldn't be them or their vaccine protocol, it must be the child's genes; > > They have used public funded research institutions whose mission is the public health to essentially deny the obvious and prevent the true causation of the epidemic from ever being officially recognized- that way none of the lawsuits could ever go forward or be successful; > > They separately prevented you from suing or otherwise seeking restitution; > > They forced you into bankruptcy under the financial duress you suffered helping your children; > > Then they allowed discimination against you and your child in HMO's and and on other insurance; > > And they refused to take the poison out of the vaccines, proactively working to overturn legislation designed to protect unborn babies and infants; > > And they work overtime to corrupt the idiots in the mainstream media to make sure that all of the blue haired people never figure out this sordid affair; > > All the while they use public funds to promote a flu vaccine for babies and pregnant women which contains high levels of mercury and, based upon their own data, is not even effective. > > And you're complaining that they merely fu__cked everyone on this legislation? > > That has become the order of the day in this society. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2006 Report Share Posted October 4, 2006 In the words of Gilmore [regarding insurance issues], we are not playing nice anymore. Enough with the b.s. we kicking ass and taking names later, that is IF there is a next time. > > > > Lenny, > > > > How did Santorum " screw us " after the ad ran?? And how has > > he " dumped us " ??? > > > > I personally worked and met with Jen Vesey on this issue throughout > > the whole process....and the bill passed the Senate > > UNAMIOUSLY....seems to me, he did his job.... > > > > What I find " interesting " is the fact that the NIH Reform bill > > passed the House with only 2 votes on the " Nay " side.... > > > > Now, WHY would Barton hold that bill in his committee all this time > > if he knew he had all this support in the House??? > > > > Wonder if it has anything to do with the fact that the bill is now > > headed for the Senate HELP committee....the same committee that > > oversaw the CAA bill....hummmmm > > > > But, forget about the politics right now.... > -sniop- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2006 Report Share Posted November 20, 2006 My friend and I say next we parents of those with autism need a " funding for families of those with autism act " so each family of those with autism gets $50,000 per child with autism at any age each year (retroactive would be nice). msherrett. ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2006 Report Share Posted November 20, 2006 Absolutely and do it in the form of a tax credit- thus, everyone will get the money- even if you don't pay taxes. And this is doable, because it is political. But it would require that the government admit their complicity in the thimerosal/vaccine/autism debacle. Combating Autism Act My friend and I say next we parents of those with autism need a "funding for families of those with autism act" so each family of those with autism gets $50,000 per child with autism at any age each year (retroactive would be nice). msherrett.__________________________________________________________Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2006 Report Share Posted November 20, 2006 Weinmaster of No Mercury has always said, “just give parents the CAA money….we will be able to figure out how to heal our children on our own…look what we have already accomplished.” I think that maybe the best strategy yet….let us deal with it on our own (like congress has been doing so far), but at least give us the support of the money. I would love to see the colloquy language/bill language on that bill! We could call it, “The Non Participating Pharma/Congressional bill to combat autism.” Short title could be, “show us the money.” From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of H Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 1:16 PM EOHarm Subject: Re: Combating Autism Act Absolutely and do it in the form of a tax credit- thus, everyone will get the money- even if you don't pay taxes. And this is doable, because it is political. But it would require that the government admit their complicity in the thimerosal/vaccine/autism debacle. Combating Autism Act My friend and I say next we parents of those with autism need a " funding for families of those with autism act " so each family of those with autism gets $50,000 per child with autism at any age each year (retroactive would be nice). msherrett. __________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2006 Report Share Posted November 20, 2006 Here we go into the kitchen! I don't think that's a realistic or fair " fee " for having a child with autism. People whose kids get heart ailments don't get payment for suffering. Now, I know that our kids were harmed through gov negligence, but do we really want every single taxpayer to have to pay for something a handful of people have done? And, what about those who are wealthy, should they get $50k? And what about those like me who really aren't shelling out all that much at this stage of the game? Just be handed it anyway? Do people whose kids got polio from the vaccine get $50K a year? The thing is every time the gov pays something, it comes out of everyone else's pockets. I guess the question becomes if we favor socialist or capitalist system. I personally prefer capitalist with a socialist safety net. I know autism is somewhat unique in that we weren't warned of the dangers and are coerced into the medical procedure. I just think if we really want something done to help we need to be somewhat reasonable. Debi > > My friend and I say next we parents of those with autism need a > " funding for families of those with autism act " so each family of those > with autism gets $50,000 per child with autism at any age each year > (retroactive would be nice). msherrett. > ________________________________________________________________________ > Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and > security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from > across the web, free AOL Mail and more. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2006 Report Share Posted November 20, 2006 The problem is that with cpatialism their are huge incentives to poison kids if you can get away with as has happend with our children up to now. The point of punitive damges is to provide and equally powerful financilal incentive not to posion children. Their is no morality in this just incentives and disincentives. Without disincentives we would expect much more of the anit-social behavior that produced the autism epidemic in the first place. > > > > My friend and I say next we parents of those with autism need a > > " funding for families of those with autism act " so each family of those > > with autism gets $50,000 per child with autism at any age each year > > (retroactive would be nice). msherrett. > > _____________________________________________________________________ ___ > > Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and > > security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from > > across the web, free AOL Mail and more. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2006 Report Share Posted November 20, 2006 Another thing is that without risk their is no capitalism. One of the hallmarks of the current vaccine market in the US is that their is no reisk for the manufacturers. No competition on price and no choice for consumers. What we have here is really a fascist model. ANd I am not saying that to be provocative fascism is a model of social and economic organization that is quite popular among corporate elites. It just isn't acceptable to say so--yet. > > > > My friend and I say next we parents of those with autism need a > > " funding for families of those with autism act " so each family of those > > with autism gets $50,000 per child with autism at any age each year > > (retroactive would be nice). msherrett. > > _____________________________________________________________________ ___ > > Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and > > security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from > > across the web, free AOL Mail and more. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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