Re: OT a little; cause of peanut allergy ?Vera

[Guest guest]

I prefer to put a little Nutella® in my vaccines as hazelnut gives

them a richer, more nutty flavor.

>

> Hi Vera,

> Peanut oil is used in some vaccines as an adjuvant to stimulate

the immune

> system. That's where the peanut allergies are coming from. Crazy,

isn't it?

> It makes me sick that this has become so common and so serious

that the kids

> have to have special peanut tables in the cafeteria at school.

>

>

>

> _____

>

> From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On

Behalf Of

> Vera

> Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 2:28 AM

> EOHarm

> Subject: **SPAM** RE: OT a little; cause of peanut

allergy ?

> Fournier?

>

>

>

>

> I posted this question before and noone responded. Does anyone

know what is

> driving peanut allergy (other than the vaccine induced destruction

of the

> auto-immune system)?

>

> I thought had mentioned something about nut additives in her

speech to

> AICP. Any way, I was just wondering if anyone knew if they were

adding

> cheap peanut filler to something like formula or if peanuts were a

base for

> some vaccine.

>

> I know a lot of kids develop severe allergies to eggs after the

MMR (egg

> based) -- so where does the peanut additive come in or do we know.

>

> Vera

>

> :

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I can't believe they would do that and then play dumb about the

increased incidence of peanut allergies.

Is their a way to find out which particular vaccines contain peanut

oil?

I suppose it wouldn't be listed as an ingredient, would it?

Thanks,

>

> Hi Vera,

> Peanut oil is used in some vaccines as an adjuvant to stimulate the

immune

> system. That's where the peanut allergies are coming from. Crazy,

isn't it?

> It makes me sick that this has become so common and so serious that

the kids

> have to have special peanut tables in the cafeteria at school.

>

>

>

> _____

>

> From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On

Behalf Of

> Vera

> Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 2:28 AM

> EOHarm

> Subject: **SPAM** RE: OT a little; cause of peanut

allergy ?

> Fournier?

>

>

>

>

> I posted this question before and noone responded. Does anyone

know what is

> driving peanut allergy (other than the vaccine induced destruction

of the

> auto-immune system)?

>

> I thought had mentioned something about nut additives in her

speech to

> AICP. Any way, I was just wondering if anyone knew if they were

adding

> cheap peanut filler to something like formula or if peanuts were a

base for

> some vaccine.

>

> I know a lot of kids develop severe allergies to eggs after the MMR

(egg

> based) -- so where does the peanut additive come in or do we know.

>

> Vera

>

> :

>

> .

>

> <http://geo./serv?

s=97359714/grpId=15029938/grpspId=1705060682/msgI

> d=39783/stime=1164053026/nc1=3848568/nc2=3848641/nc3=3848525>

>

[Guest guest]

If you read Vaccine A it plainly states that you can eat vegetable

oil but could never inject it because it is too much like the fat in

our body and will set off an auto-immune response and it will kill

you. I can't imagine they would put peanut oil in vaccines, What

is your source? Holly

>

> Hi Vera,

> Peanut oil is used in some vaccines as an adjuvant to stimulate

the immune

> system. That's where the peanut allergies are coming from. Crazy,

isn't it?

> It makes me sick that this has become so common and so serious

that the kids

> have to have special peanut tables in the cafeteria at school.

>

>

>

> _____

>

> From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On

Behalf Of

> Vera

> Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 2:28 AM

> EOHarm

> Subject: **SPAM** RE: OT a little; cause of peanut

allergy ?

> Fournier?

>

>

>

>

> I posted this question before and noone responded. Does anyone

know what is

> driving peanut allergy (other than the vaccine induced destruction

of the

> auto-immune system)?

>

> I thought had mentioned something about nut additives in her

speech to

> AICP. Any way, I was just wondering if anyone knew if they were

adding

> cheap peanut filler to something like formula or if peanuts were a

base for

> some vaccine.

>

> I know a lot of kids develop severe allergies to eggs after the

MMR (egg

> based) -- so where does the peanut additive come in or do we know.

>

> Vera

>

> :

>

> .

>

> <http://geo./serv?

s=97359714/grpId=15029938/grpspId=1705060682/msgI

> d=39783/stime=1164053026/nc1=3848568/nc2=3848641/nc3=3848525>

>

[Guest guest]

I have never heard that peanut oil is used as an adjuvant in vaccines.

I would be very interested in any information that supports this.

The oil that is used as an adjuvant in vaccines is squalene, an oil

that is derived from shark's liver, and is the primary

immunostimulatory ingredient in MF-59, (called " hamburger helper " by

Leavitt, Gerberding and Fauci and others because it improves the immune

response to vaccine antigens and allows smaller doses and thus larger

dose production). MF-59 is used in a flu vaccine in Italy made by

Chiron (now bought out) and has been used in prototype bird flu

vaccines, as well as experimental anthrax vaccine given to some members

of the military. It is implicated in cases of lupus and ALS.

On Nov 21, 2006, at 1:43 PM, Fournier wrote:

> Hi Vera,

> Peanut oil is used in some vaccines as an adjuvant to stimulate the

> immune system.  That's where the peanut allergies are coming from.

> Crazy, isn't it?

> It makes me sick that this has become so common and so serious that

> the kids have to have special peanut tables in the cafeteria at

> school. 

>

>  

>

> From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf

> Of Vera

> Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 2:28 AM

> EOHarm

> Subject: **SPAM** RE: OT a little; cause of peanut allergy ?

> Fournier?

>

>

> I posted this question before and noone responded.  Does anyone know

> what is driving peanut allergy (other than the vaccine induced

> destruction of the auto-immune system)?

>  

> I thought had mentioned something about nut additives in her

> speech to AICP.  Any way, I was just wondering if anyone knew if they

> were adding cheap peanut filler to something like formula or if

> peanuts were a base for some vaccine.

>  

> I know a lot of kids develop severe allergies to eggs after the MMR

> (egg based) -- so where does the peanut additive come in or do we

> know.

>  

> Vera

>

> :

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>

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[Guest guest]

And you really mean to say some egg head in a white coat has not figured this out yet ?

OT a little; cause of peanut allergy ?Vera

Hi Vera,

Peanut oil is used in some vaccines as an adjuvant to stimulate the immune system. That's where the peanut allergies are coming from. Crazy, isn't it?

It makes me sick that this has become so common and so serious that the kids have to have special peanut tables in the cafeteria at school.

From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of Vera Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 2:28 AMEOHarm Subject: **SPAM** RE: OT a little; cause of peanut allergy ? Fournier?

I posted this question before and noone responded. Does anyone know what is driving peanut allergy (other than the vaccine induced destruction of the auto-immune system)?

I thought had mentioned something about nut additives in her speech to AICP. Any way, I was just wondering if anyone knew if they were adding cheap peanut filler to something like formula or if peanuts were a base for some vaccine.

I know a lot of kids develop severe allergies to eggs after the MMR (egg based) -- so where does the peanut additive come in or do we know.

Vera:

..

[Guest guest]

I love this list because it still has the abillity to reduce me to

gales of laughter on occasion.... and this did ... nice one ...

SP

> >

> > Hi Vera,

> > Peanut oil is used in some vaccines as an adjuvant to stimulate

> the immune

> > system. That's where the peanut allergies are coming from.

Crazy,

> isn't it?

> > It makes me sick that this has become so common and so serious

> that the kids

> > have to have special peanut tables in the cafeteria at school.

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

On peanut oil adjuvant. I'm on digest so my apologies if this has

already been addressed:

http://www.vaccinetruth.org/peanut_oil.htm

http://www.vaccinationnews.com/dailynews/March2002/Anaphylaxis & Vaccines.htm

http://www.altcorp.com/dentalinformation/adjuvants.htm

http://www.whale.to/vaccine/adjuvants.html

There were testing it with flu vaccines back in '75, calling it

adjuvant 65 and pubmed has 641 cites for it.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve & db=PubMed & list_uids=1054729 & dopt=Abstract

Adjuvant 65 trademark for a water-in-oil emulsion

containing antigen in peanut oil with Arlacel A and aluminum monostearate

as the emulsifying agent.

http://tinyurl.com/ye6z9o

HTH,

Avril

At 06:27 PM 11/21/2006, you wrote:

Re: OT a little; cause of peanut allergy

?Vera

Posted by: " andrea52521991 "

mkeller@...

andrea52521991

Tue Nov 21, 2006 1:41 pm (PST)

I can't believe they would do that and then play dumb about the increased incidence of peanut allergies.

Is their a way to find out which particular vaccines contain peanut oil?

I suppose it wouldn't be listed as an ingredient, would it?

Thanks,

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Avril. These links are very informative. The information shows

that peanut oil was tested on animals, studied, and used to induce

allergy in animals. No doubt it would induce allergy in children. Is

there any evidence to show that peanut oil was used, even

experimentally, as an adjuvant in vaccines administered to humans?

Always possible it was used on children or humans experimentally but

never documented. Experimental use, even on humans, would not explain

widespread peanut allergy, unless there was widespread use of peanut

oil in vaccines. I have not been able to find any documentation of that

kind of use.

On Nov 22, 2006, at 9:49 AM, Avril wrote:

On peanut oil adjuvant.  I'm on digest so my apologies if this has

already been addressed:

http://www.vaccinetruth.org/peanut_oil.htm

http://www.vaccinationnews.com/dailynews/March2002/

Anaphylaxis & Vaccines.htm

http://www.altcorp.com/dentalinformation/adjuvants.htm

http://www.whale.to/vaccine/adjuvants.html

There were testing it with flu vaccines back in '75, calling it

adjuvant 65 and pubmed has 641 cites for it.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?

cmd=Retrieve & db=PubMed & list_uids=1054729 & dopt=Abstract

> Adjuvant 65  trademark for a water-in-oil emulsion containing antigen

> in peanut oil with Arlacel A and aluminum monostearate as the

> emulsifying agent.

http://tinyurl.com/ye6z9o

HTH,

Avril

At 06:27 PM 11/21/2006, you wrote:

> Re: OT a little; cause of peanut allergy ?Vera

>

>

>

>

> Posted by: " andrea52521991 " mkeller@...   andrea52521991

>

>

>

> Tue Nov 21, 2006 1:41 pm (PST)

>

> I can't believe they would do that and then play dumb about the

> increased incidence of peanut allergies.

> Is their a way to find out which particular vaccines contain peanut

> oil?

> I suppose it wouldn't be listed as an ingredient, would it?

> Thanks,

>

J. Krakow

Law Office of J. Krakow

225 Broadway

Suite 2700

New York, New York 10007

(212)227-0600 (voice)

(646) 349-1771 (fax)

[Guest guest]



That's apparently correct. But widespread peanut allergy must indicate an initial immunogenic challenge by something resembling peanut proteins (a likely contaminant in peanut oil)- otherwise you wouldn't get the specific allergic response. It may simply be that generally hypersensitized children were exposed to peanuts/peanut butter early on and developed the allergic reaction from that or alternatively, were injected with something resembling an immunogenic peanut protein- from say, a peanut oil adjuvant contaminant in a vaccine. But the fact that the hypersensitivity is to peanuts and is so severe, as opposed to other immunogens, reflects a disconcerting specificity which more likely is explained by the latter or similar phenomenon, rather than the former explanation.

When "trade secret" ingredients are listed by the manufacturers in food, cosmetic and other products, often the trade secret ingredient is listed by a less common name in order to avoid directly divulging the "trade secret".

In addition, what may have been previously used, may no longer be used.

Re: Re: OT a little; cause of peanut allergy ?Vera

Thanks, Avril. These links are very informative. The information shows that peanut oil was tested on animals, studied, and used to induce allergy in animals. No doubt it would induce allergy in children. Is there any evidence to show that peanut oil was used, even experimentally, as an adjuvant in vaccines administered to humans? Always possible it was used on children or humans experimentally but never documented. Experimental use, even on humans, would not explain widespread peanut allergy, unless there was widespread use of peanut oil in vaccines. I have not been able to find any documentation of that kind of use.On Nov 22, 2006, at 9:49 AM, Avril wrote:On peanut oil adjuvant. I'm on digest so my apologies if this has already been addressed:http://www.vaccinetruth.org/peanut_oil.htmhttp://www.vaccinationnews.com/dailynews/March2002/Anaphylaxis & Vaccines.htm http://www.altcorp.com/dentalinformation/adjuvants.htmhttp://www.whale.to/vaccine/adjuvants.htmlThere were testing it with flu vaccines back in '75, calling it adjuvant 65 and pubmed has 641 cites for it.http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve & db=PubMed & list_uids=1054729 & dopt=Abstract

Adjuvant 65 trademark for a water-in-oil emulsion containing antigen in peanut oil with Arlacel A and aluminum monostearate as the emulsifying agent.http://tinyurl.com/ye6z9oHTH,AvrilAt 06:27 PM 11/21/2006, you wrote:

Re: OT a little; cause of peanut allergy ?VeraPosted by: "andrea52521991" mkeller@... andrea52521991

Tue Nov 21, 2006 1:41 pm (PST)I can't believe they would do that and then play dumb about theincreased incidence of peanut allergies.Is their a way to find out which particular vaccines contain peanutoil?I suppose it wouldn't be listed as an ingredient, would it?Thanks, J. KrakowLaw Office of J. Krakow225 BroadwaySuite 2700New York, New York 10007(212)227-0600 (voice)(646) 349-1771 (fax)

[Guest guest]

I think it incredibly stupid to use very common foods as ingredients in vaccines

designed

to irritate/provoke an immune response.

If the peanut growers knew their products would be harming their customer

base... would

they sell to big pharma?

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> > Re: OT a little; cause of peanut allergy ?Vera

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Posted by: " andrea52521991 " mkeller@...   andrea52521991

> >

> >

> >

> > Tue Nov 21, 2006 1:41 pm (PST)

> >

> > I can't believe they would do that and then play dumb about the

> > increased incidence of peanut allergies.

> > Is their a way to find out which particular vaccines contain peanut

> > oil?

> > I suppose it wouldn't be listed as an ingredient, would it?

> > Thanks,

> >

>

>

> J. Krakow

> Law Office of J. Krakow

> 225 Broadway

> Suite 2700

> New York, New York 10007

> (212)227-0600 (voice)

> (646) 349-1771 (fax)

>

[Guest guest]

So to take this one more step... if a child has a peanut allergy, caused by vaccines and the child gets a 'booster' shot with peanut oil in the vaccine what happens it can't be good. Nanstiel <erik@...> wrote: I think it incredibly stupid to use very common foods as ingredients in vaccines designed to irritate/provoke an immune response.If the peanut growers knew their products would be harming their

customer base... would they sell to big pharma?> > > Re: OT a little; cause of peanut allergy ?Vera> >> >> >> >> > Posted by: "andrea52521991" mkeller@... Â andrea52521991> >> >> >> > Tue Nov 21, 2006 1:41 pm (PST)> >> > I can't believe they would do that and then play dumb about the> > increased incidence of peanut allergies.> > Is their a way to find out which particular

vaccines contain peanut> > oil?> > I suppose it wouldn't be listed as an ingredient, would it?> > Thanks,> > > > > J. Krakow> Law Office of J. Krakow> 225 Broadway> Suite 2700> New York, New York 10007> (212)227-0600 (voice)> (646) 349-1771 (fax)>

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