Re: Any help please

[Guest guest]

Kim, these may not all be great choices

for you, but they are the only options.

Knock him out with meds.

Give him a huge bribe.

Papoose strap him and sit on him.

Either way, make sure you are not pulling

blood for one little test. Get a bunch of them done at once if it’s so

stressful.

I’d have added social stories but

they take too long if you need your test done soon.

From:

EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of

Sent: Wednesday, September 13,

2006 11:19 AM

EOHarm

Subject: Any help please

My 8 yr old son is TERRIFIED of needles. I finally

got a doctor to order tests on his heavy metal levels but I don't know how to

get him to give blood. He's an extremely strong boy and I can't hold

him down. Any suggestions?

Kim

[Guest guest]

I tried to knock him out with Benadryl but it only made him hyper. Any other suggestions for meds to knock him out with? kim

[Guest guest]

Yea, that’s what benadryl does to

my kid too. Ask your doctor for a script for something (not chloral hydrate).

From:

EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of

Sent: Wednesday, September 13,

2006 12:30 PM

EOHarm

Subject: Re: Any help

please

I tried to knock him out with Benadryl but it only made

him hyper. Any other suggestions for meds to knock him out with?

kim

[Guest guest]

Demerol? Kidding! Have you tried using melatonin? I'm considering using that.

My daughter kept me up last night pretty late. When he hear her clapping her

hands...we

know she's having a bowel movement. I got up three times last night to change

poopy

diapers. Ugh. After those, she stayed awake until 1:00 a.m. and I have to get

up at 5:00

a.m. every day. I'm bleary eyed and foggy...and have a bit of a short temper

when I don't

sleep. I have to remind myself that raising my voice to my daughter never does

any

good...she only responds when you're peaceful and persistent. :-)

>

> I tried to knock him out with Benadryl but it only made him hyper. Any

> other suggestions for meds to knock him out with?

>

>

>

> kim

>

[Guest guest]

My son completely freaks out too and he is strong as hell. We have

used liquid Versed with good success. That is the drug Dr. Bradstreet

recommended.

Good luck,

>

> I tried to knock him out with Benadryl but it only made him hyper.

Any

> other suggestions for meds to knock him out with?

>

>

>

> kim

>

[Guest guest]

We often get higher levels showing in hair and feces, rather than urine. We

never bothered

with blood tests...

> >

> > My 8 yr old son is TERRIFIED of needles. I finally got a doctor to order

> > tests on his heavy metal levels but I don't know how to get him to give

> > blood. He's an extremely strong boy and I can't hold him down. Any

> > suggestions?

> >

> >

> >

> > Kim

> >

>

[Guest guest]

>

> When we visit the lab, I have to lay beside my daughter and hold her with a

leg scissors

> lock, pinning her free arm under my armpit and holding her head still, etc.

It's no fun.

>

Sorry , I had to laugh when you described this. It is exactly what I had to

do for the

first 20 blood draws with my 6 year old. He is 4' 2 " , 84 lbs. I am 5' 0 " and 115

lbs. No fun

is right. You end up walking out of the lab pouring with sweat as if you've just

been in a

wrestling match!

If it's any consolation, for the last three draws, he has sat on my lap

unrestrained with only

minimal wimpering. I'm hoping this will be the case eventually for the rest of

you who deal

with this problem!

[Guest guest]

, you're not kidding about the sweat! I'm exhausted after taking my

daughter for

her labs! We're going again tomorrow... :-(

> >

> > When we visit the lab, I have to lay beside my daughter and hold her with a

leg

scissors

> > lock, pinning her free arm under my armpit and holding her head still, etc.

It's no fun.

> >

> Sorry , I had to laugh when you described this. It is exactly what I had

to do for the

> first 20 blood draws with my 6 year old. He is 4' 2 " , 84 lbs. I am 5' 0 " and

115 lbs. No

fun

> is right. You end up walking out of the lab pouring with sweat as if you've

just been in a

> wrestling match!

>

> If it's any consolation, for the last three draws, he has sat on my lap

unrestrained with

only

> minimal wimpering. I'm hoping this will be the case eventually for the rest of

you who

deal

> with this problem!

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

they gave my son that stuff (chloral hydrate) when we went in for an

MRI a few years back - made him really goofy and stimmy - had to

cancel the test.

>

> Yea, that's what benadryl does to my kid too. Ask your doctor for a

script

> for something (not chloral hydrate).

>

>

>

> _____

>

> From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On

Behalf Of

>

> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 12:30 PM

> EOHarm

> Subject: Re: Any help please

>

>

>

>

> I tried to knock him out with Benadryl but it only made him hyper. Any

> other suggestions for meds to knock him out with?

>

>

>

> kim

>

[Guest guest]

Wow - I feel for you guys - I guess in some ways we're blessed here -

with a small dab of Emla cream, my son does ok with this.

Agree on the pee tests - the porphyrin test in particular is so easy.

-randy

> >

> > My 8 yr old son is TERRIFIED of needles. I finally got a doctor

to order

> > tests on his heavy metal levels but I don't know how to get him to

give

> > blood. He's an extremely strong boy and I can't hold him down. Any

> > suggestions?

> >

> >

> >

> > Kim

> >

>

[Guest guest]

>

> My 8 yr old son is TERRIFIED of needles. I finally got a doctor to

order

> tests on his heavy metal levels but I don't know how to get him to

give

> blood. He's an extremely strong boy and I can't hold him down. Any

> suggestions?

>

>

>

> Kim

>

We just went through blood work with our 10 year old daughter. We

used Emla cream on the inside of each elbow for about an hour

before. She never felt a thing. We also took her portable DVD

player and a couple of her favorite videos. She never knew what

happened! I also agree with doing as many tests at one time as poss.

And too, not sure a blood test for heavy metals is an accurate way to

go. Hope this helps.

Connie

[Guest guest]

I’ve heard of some doctors prescribing single dose sedatives or

anti-anxiety meds for blood draws. We’ve

never used them.

Pamela

" Courage is doing

what you're afraid to do. There can be no courage unless you're scared. "

Eddie Rickenbacker,

top US

fighter ace, WWI

From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of

Sent: Wednesday, September 13,

2006 12:30 PM

EOHarm

Subject: Re: Any help

please

I tried to knock him out with Benadryl but it only made

him hyper. Any other suggestions for meds

to knock him out with?

kim

[Guest guest]

These blood draws are very difficult. My son is 60 pounds

and very strong. We have to physically restrain him. It is exhausting. Each

time, it gets a tiny bit better. The

most important thing is for YOU to stay calm and matter-of-fact about the

entire process.

Pamela

" Courage is doing what you're afraid to do. There

can be no courage unless you're scared. "

Eddie Rickenbacker, top US fighter ace, WWI

[Guest guest]

Get a script from your Dan doc or pediatrician for

numbing cream to numb the area and for either valium

or versed to calm the child. It helps to bring someone

to help you. I bring a pillow and a blanket. I lay y

child on the carpet and wrap him in the blanket and

lay on him. The nurse holds his arm and the doc does

the blood draw. The first few are rough and then the

children get used to it.

--- <dhdudley@...> wrote:

>

> >

> > My 8 yr old son is TERRIFIED of needles. I

> finally got a doctor to

> order

> > tests on his heavy metal levels but I don't know

> how to get him to

> give

> > blood. He's an extremely strong boy and I can't

> hold him down. Any

> > suggestions?

> >

> >

> >

> > Kim

> >

>

> We just went through blood work with our 10 year old

> daughter. We

> used Emla cream on the inside of each elbow for

> about an hour

> before. She never felt a thing. We also took her

> portable DVD

> player and a couple of her favorite videos. She

> never knew what

> happened! I also agree with doing as many tests at

> one time as poss.

> And too, not sure a blood test for heavy metals is

> an accurate way to

> go. Hope this helps.

>

> Connie

>

>

>

>

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

valium might work.

From: "Holly Bortfeld" <maximom@...>Reply-EOHarm To: <EOHarm >Subject: RE: Re: Any help pleaseDate: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 12:44:38 -0400

Yea, that’s what benadryl does to my kid too. Ask your doctor for a script for something (not chloral hydrate).

From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 12:30 PMEOHarm Subject: Re: Any help please

I tried to knock him out with Benadryl but it only made him hyper. Any other suggestions for meds to knock him out with?

kim

[Guest guest]

If I had any, I would share......

From: "Holly Bortfeld" <maximom@...>Reply-EOHarm To: <EOHarm >Subject: RE: Re: Any help pleaseDate: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 21:27:17 -0400

For me??? goodie!

From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of elevatordance Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 9:25 PMEOHarm Subject: RE: Re: Any help please

valium might work.

From: "Holly Bortfeld" <maximomadelphia (DOT) net>Reply-EOHarm To: <EOHarm >Subject: RE: Re: Any help pleaseDate: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 12:44:38 -0400

Yea, that’s what benadryl does to my kid too. Ask your doctor for a script for something (not chloral hydrate).

From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 12:30 PMEOHarm Subject: Re: Any help please

I tried to knock him out with Benadryl but it only made him hyper. Any other suggestions for meds to knock him out with?

kim

[Guest guest]

Cool. Are we smoking catnip now?

From:

EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of Beth A. Baker

Sent: Wednesday, September 13,

2006 11:50 PM

EOHarm

Subject: Re: Re: Any help

please

I have a friend who says Valerian Root or Catnip works like

a sedative.

I actually use valerian root to help get rid of a migraine

as it helps me sleep. I don't take any over-the-counter drugs as I don't want

to give big pharma any of my money and it saves my liver and that of my

family's anyway.

Beth

[Guest guest]

Why not, I have tried to smoke about every thing else.

<g>

Debi

>

> Cool. Are we smoking catnip now?

>

[Guest guest]

I've never heard of the feds coming after anyone for smoking catnip.

RE: Re: Any help please

Cool. Are we smoking catnip now?

From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of Beth A. BakerSent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 11:50 PMEOHarm Subject: Re: Re: Any help please

I have a friend who says Valerian Root or Catnip works like a sedative.

I actually use valerian root to help get rid of a migraine as it helps me sleep. I don't take any over-the-counter drugs as I don't want to give big pharma any of my money and it saves my liver and that of my family's anyway.

Beth

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[Guest guest]

Lol. I was just kidding. I've grown catnip for my cats, that stuff

stinks! I gave up cigarettes 8 years ago, but still long for one. The

other stuff I haven't done in a good 16 years. It can really suck to

grow up sometimes!

Debi

>

> Gee, I really started something with this catnip thing. Woodstock

anyone?

[Guest guest]

Yeah, but wait until they reclassify catnip as a vitamin- then you're f___ed.

RE: Re: Any help please

Cool. Are we smoking catnip now?

From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of Beth A. BakerSent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 11:50 PMEOHarm Subject: Re: Re: Any help please

I have a friend who says Valerian Root or Catnip works like a sedative.

I actually use valerian root to help get rid of a migraine as it helps me sleep. I don't take any over-the-counter drugs as I don't want to give big pharma any of my money and it saves my liver and that of my family's anyway.

Beth

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[Guest guest]

Have you ever smelled Valerian Root? It's a good thing you swallow it in a capsule and sometimes I still gag when I take it.

Re: Any help please

Lol. I was just kidding. I've grown catnip for my cats, that stuffstinks! I gave up cigarettes 8 years ago, but still long for one. Theother stuff I haven't done in a good 16 years. It can really suck togrow up sometimes!Debi>> Gee, I really started something with this catnip thing. Woodstockanyone?

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[Guest guest]

Yes, and it is nasty! Just like Alpha Keto glutaric acid is for one of my ASD

(aka mercury

poisoned) sons who are dangerously high in ammonia, It is terrible tasting-

which is why I

praise him every time after drinking it for me. My kids are worn down from mommy

coming at them with a shot glass full of vitamins. That is why they take them,

even though

they know they hate them. There's just a big reward at the end of every shot

glass!

> >

> > Gee, I really started something with this catnip thing. Woodstock

> anyone?

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Yeah, I made the dreadful mistake of emptying a cap into Allie's

drink. I wonder if that was when she stopped drinking juice...

Debi

>

> Have you ever smelled Valerian Root? It's a good thing you swallow

it in a capsule and sometimes I still gag when I take it.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yeah, I made the dreadful mistake of emptying a cap into Allie's

drink. I wonder if that was when she stopped drinking juice...

Debi

>

> Have you ever smelled Valerian Root? It's a good thing you swallow

it in a capsule and sometimes I still gag when I take it.

>

>