Re: Spectrum Magazine articles & NAA

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The local/state impact of A-champ and the efforts of Gilmore, Krakow, Bobbie Manning, etc., coupled with the Weldon/Maloney legislation (vaccine safety) and the Maloney/Olmsted legislation (ferreting out the reality in vaccines) are extremely important pieces in this puzzle. This work should be highly commended.

Spectrum Magazine articles & NAA

Maximom offered:

Weldon, Maloney Introduce Vaccine Safety Bill Measure Removes CDC’s Conflict of Interest; Helps Preserve Public Confidence in Vaccine Safety Research

"Weldon and Maloney were joined by several groups advocating vaccine safety reform, including the National Autism Association, A-Champs, and safeMINDS. According to the National Autism Association, “This landmark legislation will provide critical government agency oversight and implementation of vaccine safety research, which has not kept pace with the rise in the number of vaccines routinely prescribed to consumers including pregnant women and young children.â€

I fully understand that Autism Speaks, CAN and other "major" autism organizations have made the CAA their highest priority. However, I think the NAA should be commended for having the organizational courage to publicly support both, the CAA and Weldon/Maloney legislation.

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Kudos to Mark Blaxill for his work on the legislation as well!

Spectrum Magazine articles & NAA> > > > Maximom offered:> > Weldon, Maloney Introduce Vaccine Safety Bill > Measure Removes CDC’s Conflict of Interest; Helps Preserve Public Confidence in Vaccine Safety Research > > "Weldon and Maloney were joined by several groups advocating vaccine safety reform, including the National Autism Association, A-Champs, and safeMINDS. According to the National Autism Association, “This landmark legislation will provide critical government agency oversight and implementation of vaccine safety research, which has not kept pace with the rise in the number of vaccines routinely prescribed to consumers including pregnant women and young children.â€> > I fully understand that Autism Speaks, CAN and other "major" autism organizations have made the CAA their highest priority. However, I think the NAA should be commended for having the organizational courage to publicly support both, the CAA and Weldon/Maloney legislation.>

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Kelli Ann,

There is nothing wrong with pointing out Mark Blaxill's enormous

contributions to the autism community. However, to say that you are

doing so to " set the record straignt " is a just more of your

provocations. Nothing that anyone has said in this thread directly or

indirectly discounts Mark's role in the Maloney legislation. Yet, you

come on like you need to rush to his defense as if people here are

attacking or dismissing him. Puuhleeze! Stop trying so hard to pick

fights, or to stir up " them vs. us " mentality. This is your response

to Bob M. giving kudos: " I think the NAA should be commended for

having the organizational courage to publicly support both, the CAA

and Weldon/Maloney legislation. " ? No need to straw man Henry as

dissing Mark. Try taking smaller steps, trying seeking truth for a

foot or two first, and see how it goes. ;-)

Love, Lenny

> >

> > The local/state impact of A-champ and the efforts of Gilmore,

> Krakow, Bobbie Manning, etc., coupled with the Weldon/Maloney

> legislation (vaccine safety) and the Maloney/Olmsted legislation

> (ferreting out the reality in vaccines) are extremely important

> pieces in this puzzle. This work should be highly commended.

> >

> >

> >

> > Spectrum Magazine articles & NAA

> >

> >

> >

> > Maximom offered:

> >

> > Weldon, Maloney Introduce Vaccine Safety Bill

> > Measure Removes CDC’s Conflict of Interest; Helps Preserve

> Public Confidence in Vaccine Safety Research

> >

> > " Weldon and Maloney were joined by several groups advocating

> vaccine safety reform, including the National Autism Association, A-

> Champs, and safeMINDS. According to the National Autism

> Association, “This landmark legislation will provide critical

> government agency oversight and implementation of vaccine safety

> research, which has not kept pace with the rise in the number of

> vaccines routinely prescribed to consumers including pregnant women

> and young children.â€

> >

> > I fully understand that Autism Speaks, CAN and other " major "

> autism organizations have made the CAA their highest priority.

> However, I think the NAA should be commended for having the

> organizational courage to publicly support both, the CAA and

> Weldon/Maloney legislation.

> >

>

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Lenny,

Certainly don't understand how making a statement like " to set the

record straight " equates to " provocation " ??

My interest is in facts and truth....always has been....always will

be....

Kelli

>

>

> Kelli Ann,

> There is nothing wrong with pointing out Mark Blaxill's enormous

> contributions to the autism community. However, to say that you are

> doing so to " set the record straignt " is a just more of your

> provocations. Nothing that anyone has said in this thread

directly or

> indirectly discounts Mark's role in the Maloney legislation. Yet,

you

> come on like you need to rush to his defense as if people here are

> attacking or dismissing him. Puuhleeze! Stop trying so hard to

pick

> fights, or to stir up " them vs. us " mentality. This is your

response

> to Bob M. giving kudos: " I think the NAA should be commended for

> having the organizational courage to publicly support both, the CAA

> and Weldon/Maloney legislation. " ? No need to straw man Henry as

> dissing Mark. Try taking smaller steps, trying seeking truth for a

> foot or two first, and see how it goes. ;-)

>

> Love, Lenny

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The point I was trying to make was not to diss Mark- far from it- but to point out that local efforts in the state and municipalities by A-Champ and on the federal legislation which involves Burton, Weldon and/or Maloney, represent a far more likely scenario for producing success. The locals aren't fighting for their lives and they have to pay for the mistakes of the feds. In general, that makes them better allies than those in congress. Weldon, Burton and Maloney have shown themselves to be reliable allies and that is worth quite a bit. The motivation of others is very suspect, even if genuine.

]

That is not to suggest that those who work on other legislation, including CAA, are not working their hearts out or even being effective, it's just that the cards are so stacked against success in certain areas, given the institutional bias and interests fighting for their lives on and against this issue.

Facts and truth are always important, but to get the facts and truth, sometimes you simply have to make allegations.

Re: Spectrum Magazine articles & NAA

Lenny,Certainly don't understand how making a statement like "to set the record straight" equates to "provocation"??My interest is in facts and truth....always has been....always will be....Kelli >> > Kelli Ann,> There is nothing wrong with pointing out Mark Blaxill's enormous> contributions to the autism community. However, to say that you are> doing so to "set the record straignt" is a just more of your> provocations. Nothing that anyone has said in this thread directly or> indirectly discounts Mark's role in the Maloney legislation. Yet, you> come on like you need to rush to his defense as if people here are> attacking or dismissing him. Puuhleeze! Stop trying so hard to pick> fights, or to stir up "them vs. us" mentality. This is your response> to Bob M. giving kudos: "I think the NAA should be commended for> having the organizational courage to publicly support both, the CAA> and Weldon/Maloney legislation."? No need to straw man Henry as> dissing Mark. Try taking smaller steps, trying seeking truth for a> foot or two first, and see how it goes. ;-)> > Love, Lenny

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Henry,

I never mentioned anyone " dissing " anybody. I never took your

comments as negative. Sorry for the confusion.

Kelli

> >

> >

> > Kelli Ann,

> > There is nothing wrong with pointing out Mark Blaxill's

enormous

> > contributions to the autism community. However, to say that

you are

> > doing so to " set the record straignt " is a just more of your

> > provocations. Nothing that anyone has said in this thread

> directly or

> > indirectly discounts Mark's role in the Maloney legislation.

Yet,

> you

> > come on like you need to rush to his defense as if people here

are

> > attacking or dismissing him. Puuhleeze! Stop trying so hard to

> pick

> > fights, or to stir up " them vs. us " mentality. This is your

> response

> > to Bob M. giving kudos: " I think the NAA should be commended

for

> > having the organizational courage to publicly support both,

the CAA

> > and Weldon/Maloney legislation. " ? No need to straw man Henry as

> > dissing Mark. Try taking smaller steps, trying seeking truth

for a

> > foot or two first, and see how it goes. ;-)

> >

> > Love, Lenny

>

[Guest guest]

I understand that- I just wanted to make sure everyone knew.

Sometimes one cannot completely gauge how people will take the written, as opposed to the spoken, word. Just a simple clarification, if one was needed.

Re: Spectrum Magazine articles & NAA

Henry,I never mentioned anyone "dissing" anybody. I never took your comments as negative. Sorry for the confusion.Kelli > >> > > > Kelli Ann,> > There is nothing wrong with pointing out Mark Blaxill's enormous> > contributions to the autism community. However, to say that you are> > doing so to "set the record straignt" is a just more of your> > provocations. Nothing that anyone has said in this thread > directly or> > indirectly discounts Mark's role in the Maloney legislation. Yet, > you> > come on like you need to rush to his defense as if people here are> > attacking or dismissing him. Puuhleeze! Stop trying so hard to > pick> > fights, or to stir up "them vs. us" mentality. This is your > response> > to Bob M. giving kudos: "I think the NAA should be commended for> > having the organizational courage to publicly support both, the CAA> > and Weldon/Maloney legislation."? No need to straw man Henry as> > dissing Mark. Try taking smaller steps, trying seeking truth for a> > foot or two first, and see how it goes. ;-)> > > > Love, Lenny>

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Kelli,

Saying that you are " setting the record straight " implies that you are

correcting the errors of others. This is provocational when there are

no such errors being made because it misstates the their actions.

This is not the first time you have done this straw man tactic, and it

is not the first time it has been pointed out to you by me, so it is

possible you may not be aware of what you do. I intend to point it

out for you if you continue such tactics because it is rude, divisive

and not welcomed. I have received complaints from list members about

it. Check.

Lenny

> >

> >

> > Kelli Ann,

> > There is nothing wrong with pointing out Mark Blaxill's enormous

> > contributions to the autism community. However, to say that you are

> > doing so to " set the record straignt " is a just more of your

> > provocations. Nothing that anyone has said in this thread

> directly or

> > indirectly discounts Mark's role in the Maloney legislation. Yet,

> you

> > come on like you need to rush to his defense as if people here are

> > attacking or dismissing him. Puuhleeze! Stop trying so hard to

> pick

> > fights, or to stir up " them vs. us " mentality. This is your

> response

> > to Bob M. giving kudos: " I think the NAA should be commended for

> > having the organizational courage to publicly support both, the CAA

> > and Weldon/Maloney legislation. " ? No need to straw man Henry as

> > dissing Mark. Try taking smaller steps, trying seeking truth for a

> > foot or two first, and see how it goes. ;-)

> >

> > Love, Lenny

>

[Guest guest]

Lenny,

" Setting the record straight " does not automatically imply that

others made errors...it simply means, as in this case, that I am

adding " information " to a statement in order to present more

facts...in essence, so people can form their opinions based on all

the facts (the full record, if you will)...

Simple as that Lenny.

Kelli

> > >

> > >

> > > Kelli Ann,

> > > There is nothing wrong with pointing out Mark Blaxill's

enormous

> > > contributions to the autism community. However, to say that

you are

> > > doing so to " set the record straignt " is a just more of your

> > > provocations. Nothing that anyone has said in this thread

> > directly or

> > > indirectly discounts Mark's role in the Maloney legislation.

Yet,

> > you

> > > come on like you need to rush to his defense as if people here

are

> > > attacking or dismissing him. Puuhleeze! Stop trying so hard

to

> > pick

> > > fights, or to stir up " them vs. us " mentality. This is your

> > response

> > > to Bob M. giving kudos: " I think the NAA should be commended

for

> > > having the organizational courage to publicly support both,

the CAA

> > > and Weldon/Maloney legislation. " ? No need to straw man Henry as

> > > dissing Mark. Try taking smaller steps, trying seeking truth

for a

> > > foot or two first, and see how it goes. ;-)

> > >

> > > Love, Lenny

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Setting the record straight implies that the person doing that has the correct response , the right answer. (Sorry if I am interferring) Maurine-English majorseekingtruth4miles <kellianndavis@...> wrote: Lenny,"Setting the record straight" does not automatically imply that others made errors...it simply means, as in this case, that I am adding "information" to a statement in order to present more facts...in essence, so people can form their opinions based on all the facts (the

full record, if you will)...Simple as that Lenny. Kelli > > >> > > > > > Kelli Ann,> > > There is nothing wrong with pointing out Mark Blaxill's enormous> > > contributions to the autism community. However, to say that you are> > > doing so to "set the record straignt" is a just more of

your> > > provocations. Nothing that anyone has said in this thread > > directly or> > > indirectly discounts Mark's role in the Maloney legislation. Yet, > > you> > > come on like you need to rush to his defense as if people here are> > > attacking or dismissing him. Puuhleeze! Stop trying so hard to > > pick> > > fights, or to stir up "them vs. us" mentality. This is your > > response> > > to Bob M. giving kudos: "I think the NAA should be commended for> > > having the organizational courage to publicly support both, the CAA> > > and Weldon/Maloney legislation."? No need to straw man Henry as> > > dissing Mark. Try taking smaller steps, trying seeking truth for a> > > foot or two first, and see how it goes. ;-)> > > > > > Love, Lenny>

>>

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Thank you, Maureen, for setting the record straight. ;-)

Lenny

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Kelli Ann,

> > > > There is nothing wrong with pointing out Mark Blaxill's

> enormous

> > > > contributions to the autism community. However, to say that

> you are

> > > > doing so to " set the record straignt " is a just more of your

> > > > provocations. Nothing that anyone has said in this thread

> > > directly or

> > > > indirectly discounts Mark's role in the Maloney legislation.

> Yet,

> > > you

> > > > come on like you need to rush to his defense as if people here

> are

> > > > attacking or dismissing him. Puuhleeze! Stop trying so hard

> to

> > > pick

> > > > fights, or to stir up " them vs. us " mentality. This is your

> > > response

> > > > to Bob M. giving kudos: " I think the NAA should be commended

> for

> > > > having the organizational courage to publicly support both,

> the CAA

> > > > and Weldon/Maloney legislation. " ? No need to straw man Henry as

> > > > dissing Mark. Try taking smaller steps, trying seeking truth

> for a

> > > > foot or two first, and see how it goes. ;-)

> > > >

> > > > Love, Lenny

> > >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

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>

[Guest guest]

Lenny, Does this mean we are done with that discourse? Love, Maurineschaferatsprynet <schafer@...> wrote: Thank you, Maureen, for setting the record straight. ;-)Lenny> > > >> > > > > > > > Kelli Ann,> > > > There is nothing wrong with pointing out Mark Blaxill's > enormous> > > > contributions to the autism community. However, to say that > you are> > > > doing so to "set the record straignt" is a just more of your> > > > provocations. Nothing that anyone has said in this thread > > > directly or> > > > indirectly discounts Mark's role in the Maloney legislation. > Yet, > > > you> > > > come on like you need to rush to his defense

as if people here > are> > > > attacking or dismissing him. Puuhleeze! Stop trying so hard > to > > > pick> > > > fights, or to stir up "them vs. us" mentality. This is your > > > response> > > > to Bob M. giving kudos: "I think the NAA should be commended > for> > > > having the organizational courage to publicly support both, > the CAA> > > > and Weldon/Maloney legislation."? No need to straw man Henry as> > > > dissing Mark. Try taking smaller steps, trying seeking truth > for a> > > > foot or two first, and see how it goes. ;-)> > > > > > > > Love, Lenny> > >> >> > > > > > > ---------------------------------> Stay in the know. Pulse on the new .com. Check it

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[Guest guest]

Well no, actually. I spelled your name wrong. It's Maurine, not

Maureen. There, now I believe the record is straight. whew.

Lenny

>

> Thank you, Maureen, for setting the record straight. ;-)

>

> Lenny

>