{Disarmed} RE: {Disarmed} Re: {Disarmed} RE: Tony Blair

[Guest guest]

Do you have evidence that suggests that presidents before the current president knew that mercury in vaccines was a problem?

Doctors didn't even know and many of them still don't know, so how could the presidents up through Clinton have known.

Now we do know for a fact that the current administration has tried to sweep this under the rug.

I'm just asking as maybe you know something I don't know.

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The genesis of the autism furor started up in about 1997-1998 (perhaps earlier) and in 1999 it was so disconcerting that they discussed it at great length at the Simpsonwood Conference. There was great concern. They knew many of the kids were going down from the vaccines.

In fact, they did the Verstraeten study because they knew there was a huge concern.

Verstraeten merely confirmed what some already knew and what common sense would predict. Then they had to bury it.

The President's wife, by her own admission, was administering/running the vaccine program. She has her fingerprints on virtually every policy decision and consideration within the vaccine program. She fashions herself as hypercompetent on all issues. How convenient it would be for her to not know any of this.

The previous President and his wife did much more to damage our children perhaps than any single group in the history of this country.

Did they do it knowingly? Get them to admit anything.

The present administration has acted volitionally on this issue, instead of protecting the children. They had confirmed information and proceeded to act corruptly- knowing that it would cause harm.

They did this in part because they were handed a huge mess (that they correctly perceived would do immense damage to what they considered one of the more economically important industries- and instead of handling this in a statesmanlike fashion, proceeded to act like jackals ripping at the flesh of a downed wildebeest) and in part because that mess flows through and could take down a very close personal relationship with the first family.

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So basically under the Clinton administration, they knew something was wrong, but didn't act to do anything about it. Guilty as charged.

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The announcement regarding Thimerosal in vaccines came in July 1999. Simpsonwood was June 2000. We can't prove that the President knew about any of this. One would hope that communication on an important issue would be part of his briefing but for the most part this issue has been covered up so who knows?

From: "Beth A. Baker" <adala60@...>Reply-EOHarm To: <EOHarm >Subject: Re: {Disarmed} RE: {Disarmed} Re: {Disarmed} RE: Tony BlairDate: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 08:03:58 -0500

So basically under the Clinton administration, they knew something was wrong, but didn't act to do anything about it. Guilty as charged.

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[Guest guest]

True, but his wife was administering the vaccine program at that time.

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In 1929 an assistant research assistant involved in the approval

process said, " I wouldn't give this to my dog. " because of the known

toxicity issues. Needless to say his section of the final approval

report was edited out.

Thimerosal was created prior to FDA scientific approval process.

Thimerosal was grandfathered into the FDA because the administration

knew that it would not be able to pass the higher scientific

requirements of the time (1940).

Because of looming legal pressure the NVICP took the pressure off of

manufacturers to make ANY vaccine safer (1986).

Simpsonwood happened in 2000 because the GROWING observed evidence

from PRIOR YEARS that no scientific study had been done on the

combinations of multiple vaccines and their collective amounts of

heavy metal and other toxic burdens on young, immature immune system.

The WORST MISTAKES concerning the toxicity of THIMEROSAL were made

during the Hoover and FDR administrations and the problems were known

at that time.

EVERY administration since FDR has ignored, obfuscated, or defended

the use of Thimerosal, making all of them no better or worse then any

other administration since Hoover.

> >

> > Who are you going to be lambasting in 2008? There isn't a single

> > presidential wanna-be with any track record positive to any ASD

> issue.

> > http://tinyurl.com/fc2mg http://tinyurl.com/qnewm

> >

> > I just think this is so much more than just an ASD issue... the

> devil is in

> > the details.

> >

> > Hey, wasn't Texas A & M included in the Homeland Security Act's

> midnight

> > riders too. http://tinyurl.com/el6n3 (August 11, 2006)-Four

> Texas sites

> > including Texas A & M University in College Station have made the

> first cut in

> > a bid to be home to a proposed federal lab that would study the

> nation's

> > most dangerous disease threats. (Google search Homeland

Security)

> >

> >

> > http://tinyurl.com/hvkgf Eli Lilly, once the largest maker of

> Thimerosal,

> > is a major target in a spate of lawsuits filed since 2000. The

> company

> > stopped making the product in 1980 but continued to buy it from

> other

> > manufacturers and to resell it for another decade.

> > Company Spokesman Sagebiel said Lilly was " surprised

when

> the

> > language was inserted " because it had not actively lobbied for

it

> in recent

> > months. But he said the company " believes it is a positive step

to

> help

> > assure that manufacturers are protected from lawsuits that are

> without merit

> > or scientific evidence. "

> >

> > Diamond, a spokesman for retiring House Majority Leader

> K.

> > Armey (R-Tex.), said the provision was inserted because " it was

> something

> > the White House wanted. It wasn't [Armey's] idea. " But Diamond

said

> the

> > principle is good. " We don't want companies to be steered away

from

> the

> > business of making things that can save lives, " he said.

> >

> > Elsewhere in the bill, Republicans incorporated the entire

Cyber

> Security

> > Enhancement Act, which the House passed overwhelmingly in July

but

> which

> > made little progress in the Democratic-controlled Senate. To

> strengthen law

> > enforcement's hand in protecting the security of computer

> communications,

> > the legislation would increase penalties for hacking and other

> malicious

> > computing. Privacy advocates have criticized some provisions,

> particularly

> > those that would lower the threshold for Internet service

providers

> to give

> > law enforcement agencies customer communications without a

court

> order.

> >

> > The bill would make hacking punishable by as much as life in

prison

> if the

> > offender " knowingly or recklessly causes or attempts to cause

> death.''

> >

> > Cut from the bill was a Democratic-backed provision that would

have

> > prevented the new federal agency from giving contracts to U.S.-

based

> > companies that use offshore addresses to avoid corporate taxes.

> >

> > GOP aides said the language originally offered by Rep. Tom

DeLay (R-

> Tex.),

> > and now incorporated in the bill, gives Texas A & M the inside

track

> in

> > hosting the first university center on homeland security, to be

> established

> > within one year. DeLay was elected Wednesday to serve as the

House

> majority

> > leader in the 108th Congress.

> >

> > So what on earth could these two seemingly unrelated riders

> possibly have in

> > common? http://tinyurl.com/flxvx http://tinyurl.com/jrqaq

> > http://tinyurl.com/anukl

> >

> > http://tinyurl.com/zpw6z Distribution is Key!

> http://tinyurl.com/osbro

> > http://tinyurl.com/jxaf6 http://tinyurl.com/f24ad

> http://tinyurl.com/gvp7b

> > (search Sanofi)

> >

> > The Bush name just keeps popping up...For some strange reason,

I

> think he

> > and his father get it! http://tinyurl.com/zthob

> >

> > http://tinyurl.com/lucjh One odd thing in Bush's biography,

that

> struck

> > me immediately, was his odd journey from the Farm to the

Pharmacy.

> >

> > The " Farm " being the CIA's training facility in Virginia.

> The " Pharmacy "

> > being Eli Lilly, a major pharmaceutical company.

> >

> > Bush was Director of the CIA in 1976-1977, and became a

Director of

> Eli

> > Lilly from 1977-1978. A peculiar mix, I thought. The man was a

> veritable

> > Renaissance Republican- such varied talents and interests. What

> was the

> > connection, I wondered? So I decided to do some research on Eli

> Lilly.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > {Disarmed} Re: {Disarmed} RE: Tony Blair

> >

> >

> > Who are you going to be lambasting in 2008? There isn't a single

> > presidential wanna-be with any track record positive to any ASD

> issue.

> >

> >

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> > .

> >

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[Guest guest]

So that deep, dark, ugly monster was always there since thimerosal was approved for use, but really reared its ugly head when more vaccines and multi-dose vials were introduced to the vaccination schedule in the 90's and the problem became epidemic. I just had no idea how aware past presidents were that this stuff was a problem.

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