Guest guest Posted July 27, 2006 Report Share Posted July 27, 2006 Not surprised. Hopefully parents with vaccine-induced autistic children are still contacting the FULL U.S. Senate to defeat this CAA bill. It appears there is some sort of cancer that's crept inside the NAA and Safeminds lockerrooms preventing them from supporting thimerosal and vaccine research now. ASA and the other major NPO sharks should be ashamed of belittling so many fine families. It's not our fault this bill sucks. A promise is a promise. Environmental does not necessarily tee up injected biologics. We were promised thimerosal and vaccine research were a part of this bill. Thousands of families were being lied to in order to stir up support for CAA. The CAA is a sham being shoved through by those with glowing, radioactive conflicts of interest. If you look down the list there's lots and lots of drug company in-flow. Please contact the U.S. Senate asking them to reject this bill. ASA- ask your Senators to Support the Combating Autism Act Just got this e-mail from ASA As you know, the Senate HELP Committee recently passed the Combating Autism Act by a unanimous vote. While there is strong support for this legislation, we must do everything we can to make sure it gets to the floor of the Senate by August 4th.The Senate needs to hear from the autism community that this is an important bill and they need to support it!Click here to take action today.Unsubscribe from receiving email, or change your email preferences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2006 Report Share Posted July 27, 2006 Do you know the name of this list? Do you know who is on the board of Safeminds and NAA? Come on!!!!! > > Not surprised. Hopefully parents with vaccine-induced autistic children are still contacting the FULL U.S. Senate to defeat this CAA bill. It appears there is some sort of cancer that's crept inside the NAA and Safeminds lockerrooms preventing them from supporting thimerosal and vaccine research now. > > ASA and the other major NPO sharks should be ashamed of belittling so many fine families. It's not our fault this bill sucks. > > A promise is a promise. Environmental does not necessarily tee up injected biologics. We were promised thimerosal and vaccine research were a part of this bill. Thousands of families were being lied to in order to stir up support for CAA. The CAA is a sham being shoved through by those with glowing, radioactive conflicts of interest. If you look down the list there's lots and lots of drug company in-flow. > > Please contact the U.S. Senate asking them to reject this bill. > > ASA- ask your Senators to Support the Combating Autism Act > > > Just got this e-mail from ASA > > As you know, the Senate HELP Committee recently passed the Combating > Autism Act by a unanimous vote. While there is strong support for this > legislation, we must do everything we can to make sure it gets to the > floor of the Senate by August 4th. > > The Senate needs to hear from the autism community that this is an > important bill and they need to support it! > > Click here to take action today. > > Unsubscribe from receiving email, or change your email preferences. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2006 Report Share Posted July 27, 2006 Exactly do you KNOW who is on the board of Safeminds and NAA - please find out! Sharon in Katy, TX > > > > Not surprised. Hopefully parents with vaccine-induced autistic > children are still contacting the FULL U.S. Senate to defeat this CAA > bill. It appears there is some sort of cancer that's crept inside the > NAA and Safeminds lockerrooms preventing them from supporting > thimerosal and vaccine research now. > > > > ASA and the other major NPO sharks should be ashamed of belittling > so many fine families. It's not our fault this bill sucks. > > > > A promise is a promise. Environmental does not necessarily tee up > injected biologics. We were promised thimerosal and vaccine research > were a part of this bill. Thousands of families were being lied to in > order to stir up support for CAA. The CAA is a sham being shoved > through by those with glowing, radioactive conflicts of interest. If > you look down the list there's lots and lots of drug company in-flow. > > > > Please contact the U.S. Senate asking them to reject this bill. > > > > ASA- ask your Senators to Support the Combating > Autism Act > > > > > > Just got this e-mail from ASA > > > > As you know, the Senate HELP Committee recently passed the > Combating > > Autism Act by a unanimous vote. While there is strong support for > this > > legislation, we must do everything we can to make sure it gets to > the > > floor of the Senate by August 4th. > > > > The Senate needs to hear from the autism community that this is > an > > important bill and they need to support it! > > > > Click here to take action today. > > > > Unsubscribe from receiving email, or change your email > preferences. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2006 Report Share Posted July 27, 2006 Kerbob, Do you not realize that NAA just put out an action alert and announcement of the vaxed vs. non-vaxed bill? This bill wouldn't even be on the table were it not for Mark Blaxill with SafeMinds who has been working diligently for months to make sure this legislation saw the light of day. NAA and SafeMinds are both funding the ongoing work of Burbacher. Your claim of a "cancer" growing in our locker rooms is unfounded, mean-spirited, and totally off the mark. Rita >>Not surprised. Hopefully parents with vaccine-induced autistic children are still contacting the FULL U.S. Senate to defeat this CAA bill. It appears there is some sort of cancer that's crept inside the NAA and Safeminds lockerrooms preventing them from supporting thimerosal and vaccine research now. ASA and the other major NPO sharks should be ashamed of belittling so many fine families. It's not our fault this bill sucks. A promise is a promise. Environmental does not necessarily tee up injected biologics. We were promised thimerosal and vaccine research were a part of this bill. Thousands of families were being lied to in order to stir up support for CAA. The CAA is a sham being shoved through by those with glowing, radioactive conflicts of interest. If you look down the list there's lots and lots of drug company in-flow. Please contact the U.S. Senate asking them to reject this bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2006 Report Share Posted July 27, 2006 Robby, We've been working 24/7 to make sure we get thimerosal and vaccine research from the CAA. We are all about the thimerosal issue and have been for years. Have you read Evidence of Harm? Do you really think Lyn Redwood, Jim Moody, and Bono, Sallie Bernard, Mark Blaxill, etc. would sell out our kids? How can you say we don't support vaccine research when we're funding Burbacher's research? You're way out of line here. From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of KerbobSent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 12:10 PMEOHarm Subject: Re: ASA- ask your Senators to Support the Combating Autism Act Not surprised. Hopefully parents with vaccine-induced autistic children are still contacting the FULL U.S. Senate to defeat this CAA bill. It appears there is some sort of cancer that's crept inside the NAA and Safeminds lockerrooms preventing them from supporting thimerosal and vaccine research now. ASA and the other major NPO sharks should be ashamed of belittling so many fine families. It's not our fault this bill sucks. A promise is a promise. Environmental does not necessarily tee up injected biologics. We were promised thimerosal and vaccine research were a part of this bill. Thousands of families were being lied to in order to stir up support for CAA. The CAA is a sham being shoved through by those with glowing, radioactive conflicts of interest. If you look down the list there's lots and lots of drug company in-flow. Please contact the U.S. Senate asking them to reject this bill. ASA- ask your Senators to Support the Combating Autism Act Just got this e-mail from ASA As you know, the Senate HELP Committee recently passed the Combating Autism Act by a unanimous vote. While there is strong support for this legislation, we must do everything we can to make sure it gets to the floor of the Senate by August 4th.The Senate needs to hear from the autism community that this is an important bill and they need to support it!Click here to take action today.Unsubscribe from receiving email, or change your email preferences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2006 Report Share Posted July 27, 2006 > > Not surprised. Hopefully parents with vaccine-induced autistic children are still contacting the FULL U.S. Senate to defeat this CAA bill. It appears there is some sort of cancer that's crept inside the NAA and Safeminds lockerrooms preventing them from supporting thimerosal and vaccine research now. > Whoa! Who do you think is on these boards? They are " parents with vaccine-induced autistic children " . Honorable & intelligent parents, some who I feel I owe my son's recovery to. I know I owe them my sanity. You may not agree with them, but in no way does that make them anything other than parents doing there best. Both NAA & Safeminds have accomplished great things. Go ahead and disagree, but when you throw out personal insults, you need to dial it down a notch. Where the hell would you be right now without Safeminds alerting you to the mercury/vaccine connection originally? Good idea to think before attacking the integrity of those who have pioneered the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2006 Report Share Posted July 27, 2006 Kerbob, We all have been at this a long time..fighting for our kids. To be so negative and mean is uncalled for. SafeMinds and NAA...and A-CHAMP are all working for our kids. You may not agree with everything and that is your right but the negative play by play is unnecessary, as well as the " cancer " statement. I am from A-CHAMP but have much respect for SafeMinds and NAA. No one has sold their soul out to the Bill Frist gang. We all have the same goal. Look where we have come in one year with research, thimerosal bans, and now, some heavy-hitting Bills in Congress. This is a group effort. Let's keep the focus on the REAL bad guys. > > > > Not surprised. Hopefully parents with vaccine-induced autistic > children are still contacting the FULL U.S. Senate to defeat this CAA > bill. It appears there is some sort of cancer that's crept inside the > NAA and Safeminds lockerrooms preventing them from supporting > thimerosal and vaccine research now. > > > > Whoa! Who do you think is on these boards? They are " parents with > vaccine-induced autistic children " . Honorable & intelligent parents, > some who I feel I owe my son's recovery to. I know I owe them my > sanity. You may not agree with them, but in no way does that make > them anything other than parents doing there best. Both NAA & > Safeminds have accomplished great things. > Go ahead and disagree, but when you throw out personal insults, you > need to dial it down a notch. Where the hell would you be right now > without Safeminds alerting you to the mercury/vaccine connection > originally? Good idea to think before attacking the integrity of > those who have pioneered the way. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2006 Report Share Posted July 27, 2006 The issue with respect to the autism epidemic is the vaccine protocol and the high levels of mercury contained in many of the vaccines administered within that protocol. It is not even debatable anymore. Anyone who thinks otherwise has yet to be educated on the issue, is a nitwit, is being paid off or is looking to avoid doing time for their role in all of this. Anything less than looking at thimerosal in vaccines as the primary consideration in this mess is totally unacceptable. How that gets done is up to Congress. Hopefully they will not rely on the corrupt government agencies which continue to deny the obvious/common sense answer, but we all have our doubts. They do not want to deal with the mess that is their creation. Any language which is less than completely unambiguous will allow the Bush/Frist/Hillary axis to continue to deny the obvious. They're clearly headed down the "autism gene" path which is so disingenuous, fraudulent and idiotic as to be unworkable. We've already seen much of this nonsense. But thimerosal/vaccines/autism connection must be looked into as the primary factor/consideration in the autism epidemic. Anything less will be a total farce and will prevent meaningful research to help our kids. If these idiots can spend $450 billion on Iraq, they can spend some high percentage of same to help the kids they directly poisoned through their reckless, incompetent policies. Just get it done. Kerbob on the money!!! Re: ASA- ask your Senators to Support the Combating Autism Act Kerbob, Do you not realize that NAA just put out an action alert and announcement of the vaxed vs. non-vaxed bill? This bill wouldn't even be on the table were it not for Mark Blaxill with SafeMinds who has been working diligently for months to make sure this legislation saw the light of day. NAA and SafeMinds are both funding the ongoing work of Burbacher. Your claim of a "cancer" growing in our locker rooms is unfounded, mean-spirited, and totally off the mark. Rita >>Not surprised. Hopefully parents with vaccine-induced autistic children are still contacting the FULL U.S. Senate to defeat this CAA bill. It appears there is some sort of cancer that's crept inside the NAA and Safeminds lockerrooms preventing them from supporting thimerosal and vaccine research now. ASA and the other major NPO sharks should be ashamed of belittling so many fine families. It's not our fault this bill sucks. A promise is a promise. Environmental does not necessarily tee up injected biologics. We were promised thimerosal and vaccine research were a part of this bill. Thousands of families were being lied to in order to stir up support for CAA. The CAA is a sham being shoved through by those with glowing, radioactive conflicts of interest. If you look down the list there's lots and lots of drug company in-flow. Please contact the U.S. Senate asking them to reject this bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2006 Report Share Posted July 27, 2006 I agree with Rita. Kerbob, I’m sorry but you are going way over the top. You can’t change anything if you don’t have any footing left. Safe Minds and NAA stayed until the last seconds at least trying to remove the “best practices” language as well as other language. Is it perfect?? No. But it could have potentially been a lot worse. Why don’t you join A-Champ in the “watch committee” instead of condemning people who work very hard to remove thimerosal and fund the thimerosal/autism science. They are not the enemy here. Attacking these two hard working groups is counterproductive to our mission and our children. That said, I understand you anger, just not your approach. - From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of Rita Shreffler Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 1:16 PM EOHarm Subject: Re: ASA- ask your Senators to Support the Combating Autism Act Kerbob, Do you not realize that NAA just put out an action alert and announcement of the vaxed vs. non-vaxed bill? This bill wouldn't even be on the table were it not for Mark Blaxill with SafeMinds who has been working diligently for months to make sure this legislation saw the light of day. NAA and SafeMinds are both funding the ongoing work of Burbacher. Your claim of a " cancer " growing in our locker rooms is unfounded, mean-spirited, and totally off the mark. Rita >>Not surprised. Hopefully parents with vaccine-induced autistic children are still contacting the FULL U.S. Senate to defeat this CAA bill. It appears there is some sort of cancer that's crept inside the NAA and Safeminds lockerrooms preventing them from supporting thimerosal and vaccine research now. ASA and the other major NPO sharks should be ashamed of belittling so many fine families. It's not our fault this bill sucks. A promise is a promise. Environmental does not necessarily tee up injected biologics. We were promised thimerosal and vaccine research were a part of this bill. Thousands of families were being lied to in order to stir up support for CAA. The CAA is a sham being shoved through by those with glowing, radioactive conflicts of interest. If you look down the list there's lots and lots of drug company in-flow. Please contact the U.S. Senate asking them to reject this bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2006 Report Share Posted July 27, 2006 Great work, SAFEMINDS. INTERESTED in FUNDING RESEARCH THAT, if successful, will provide a test to be done on umbilical cord blood to ascertain whether or not the newborn has the genes associated with defective mercury excretion? HHF (864) 592 8076 ASA- ask your Senators to Support the Combating Autism Act"It appears there is some sort of cancer that's crept inside the NAA and Safeminds lockerrooms preventing them from supporting thimerosal and vaccine research now." In response to the comment above, SafeMinds has always and continues to support thimerosal research.To date we have sponsored over $750,000 in thimerosal specific studies which establishes SafeMinds as the largest private non-profit organization funding thimerosal research. Below is just a partial list of the investigation we have or are currently funding. These investigations have provided the scientific foundation for concerns related to the use of thimerosal to be taken seriously. This is in addition to numerous articles published by board members of SafeMinds, including the landmark paper published in Medical Hypotheses "Autism: A Novel form of Mercury Poisoning" in 2001. Our commitment topursuing scientific investigations into thimerosal in an effort to identify appropriate interventions to help a generation of children who have been exposed to this dangerous neurotoxin is relentless. Lyn Redwood- Pres. SafeMinds Neurotoxic Effects of Postnatal Thimerosal are Mouse Strain Dependant The developing brain is uniquely susceptible to the neurotoxic hazard posed by mercurials. Host differences in maturation, metabolism, nutrition, sex, and autoimmunity influence outcomes. How population-based variability affects the safety of the ethylmercury-containing vaccine preservative, thimerosal, is unknown. Reported increases in the prevalence of autism, a highly heritable neuropsychiatric condition, are intensifying public focus on environmental exposures such as thimerosal. Immune profiles and family history in autism are frequently consistent with autoimmunity. We hypothesized that autoimmune propensity influences outcomes in mice following thimerosal challenges that mimic routine childhood immunizations. Autoimmune disease-sensitive SJL/J mice showed growth delay; reduced locomotion; exaggerated response to novelty; and densely packed, hyperchromic hippocampal neurons with altered glutamate receptors and transporters. Strains resistant to autoimmunity, C57BL/6J and BALB/cJ, were not susceptible. These findings implicate genetic influences and provide a model for investigating thimerosal-related neurotoxicity. Influence of Thimerosal on Phospholipid Methylation in Lymphoblasts It has been proposed that the ethylmercury-containing vaccine preservative thimerosal may contribute to autism, and our earlier studies demonstrated the ability of thimerosal to inhibit methionine synthase-dependent phospholipid methylation (PLM) in cultured human neuroblastoma cells. To investigate the possible contribution of this action of thimerosal to autism, we compared its ability to inhibit PLM measured with [14C]-formate, which labels the cellular pool of 5-methyltetrahydrofolate and therefore selectively measures methionine synthase-dependent PLM. PLM was measured in immortalized lymphoblasts from same-sex siblings who were discordant for autism, as obtained from the Autism Genetic Resource Exchange (AGRE). Basal PLM was not significantly different between lymphoblasts from autistic and non-autistic siblings. Thimerosal (100 nM) did not significantly affect PLM in lymphoblasts from non-autistic siblings, but significantly reduced PLM in lymphoblasts from autistic subjects (p < 0.05). Analysis of MTHFR and transcobalamin polymorphisms in a sample of 18 sib-pairs did not reveal a significant genetic pattern of association with autism. Preliminary studies indicate a trend for autistic subjects to exhibit higher rates of mitochondrial oxygen consumption. Taken together, our results to date provide evidence that methionine synthase-dependent methylation is more sensitive to thimerosal in cells from autistic children, consistent with a potential role of thimerosal in causing autism. Mechanisms of Thimerosal Toxicity Children with autism have increased vulnerability to pro-oxidant exposures such as ethyl mercury in Thimerosal as a result of increased frequency of genetic polymorphisms that reduce the synthesis of cysteine and glutathione, the major metabolites involved in the detoxification and excretion of mercury. This investigation will extend preliminary data on plasma levels in children with autism by measuring intracellular levels of thiol metabolites and selected enzyme activities in lymphoblastoid cell lines derived from children with autism and unrelated control children. Intracellular metabolic profiles will be correlated with genetic profiles of specific polymorphisms that negatively affect methionine, cysteine, and glutathione synthesis. These experiments will allow us to determine whether intracellular metabolites and related enzyme activities are abnormal in children with autism compared to controls and whether the intracellular metabolic profile reflects the profile previously observed in plasma (see preliminary data). If the observed metabolic profiles are associated with increased frequency of polymorphisms in the same metabolic pathway, it will provide support for our hypothesis that children with autism have a genetic vulnerability to heavy metal toxicity. In addition, we will expose lymphoblastoid cells derived from autistic children and unrelated controls to increasing doses of thimerosal (nanomolar to micromolar levels) and define individual dose-response curves in terms of cytotoxicity, glutathione depletion, and DNA damage. This investigation will determine whether subtoxic doses of ethylmercury in the presence of subtoxic levels of an additional pro-oxidant heavy metal such as lead, will interact synergistically to reach a threshold of toxicity. If lymphocytes from autistic children exhibit increased sensitivity to Thimerosal toxicity in culture compared to cells from normal children, the dose-response curve should be shifted to the left. An interaction between subtoxic doses of thimerosal and other heavy metals in autistic children, but not normal children, would further support the hypothesis that autistic children have an increased vulnerability to pro-oxidant exposures. Additionally, we will be able to determine whether an increase in thimerosal sensitivity is associated with abnormal genetic and metabolic profiles and glutathione depletion. If confirmed, these results would support for the hypothesis that children with autism have an increased sensitivity to thimerosal as a result of reduced intracellular levels of cysteine and glutathione, and consequently, reduced capacity to detoxify and excrete ethylmercury. Thimerosal Neurotoxicity The specific aim of this research project is to determine the extent of changes in the absolute number of neurons, astrocytes and microglia within six specific regions of the central nervous system of the nonhuman primate (NHP) Macaca fascicularis following a known low-level thimerosal (ethylmercury) exposure. The changes in absolute cell number will be determined by use of modern designed-based stereological methods utilizing the optical disector and fractionator principles. The experimental design will test the hypothesis that exposure to thimerosal will correlate with changes in cell number within specific CNS regions, suggesting thimerosal may cause structural damage to the CNS. The six regions to be examined will include sub regions of the frontal cortex (principle sulcus- memory processing, higher function), occipital pole (calcarine sulcus-visual cortex), thalamus (functional integration), hippocampus (memory), amygdala (emotion integration), and the cerebellum (coordination, motor skills). These regions have been selected for investigation because they are well-characterized anatomical regions of the NHP brain, and extensive information about these regions has been developed describing CNS effects of methylmercury exposure. Ultimately, the results from the investigation proposed in this study will help clarify issues about the safety of ethylmercury exposure. In addition, this proposed project will seek to determine the distribution of inorganic mercury within the six specific brain regions by use of an autometallographic technique capable of localizing mercury deposits within specific cell types in histology tissue sections. Previous mercury quantification has demonstrated that inorganic mercury is present in the brain of these animals following thimerosal exposure, suggesting ethylmercury may be demethylated in the brain in a manner similar to demethylation of methylmercury that we have previously reported. Prior to sampling of the brains for the stereology and autometallography methods described above, the intact brains will be scanned with magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) techniques to allow for the future determination of potential volumetric changes of (i) total brain volume, (ii) all segmented divisions of total brain volume (cerebral cortex, cerebral white matter, cerebellum, caudate, globus pallidus–putamen, diencephalon, brainstem), (iii) lobes of the cerebral cortex and (iv) individual cortical lobe sub regions (parcellation units) for the entire cerebral cortex. In addition, specific anti-body based histochemistry methods will be used to identify reactive glial cells and immune cells within these brain samples. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2006 Report Share Posted July 27, 2006 Wanted to add MAM..NoMercury..AutismOne..etc > > > > > > Not surprised. Hopefully parents with vaccine-induced autistic > > children are still contacting the FULL U.S. Senate to defeat this CAA > > bill. It appears there is some sort of cancer that's crept inside the > > NAA and Safeminds lockerrooms preventing them from supporting > > thimerosal and vaccine research now. > > > > > > > Whoa! Who do you think is on these boards? They are " parents with > > vaccine-induced autistic children " . Honorable & intelligent parents, > > some who I feel I owe my son's recovery to. I know I owe them my > > sanity. You may not agree with them, but in no way does that make > > them anything other than parents doing there best. Both NAA & > > Safeminds have accomplished great things. > > Go ahead and disagree, but when you throw out personal insults, you > > need to dial it down a notch. Where the hell would you be right now > > without Safeminds alerting you to the mercury/vaccine connection > > originally? Good idea to think before attacking the integrity of > > those who have pioneered the way. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2006 Report Share Posted July 28, 2006 So how does the movie end? Have you seen the script? If it's OK with you I'd like to not see thimerosal and vaccine research chucked in exchange for two paragraphs superimposed at the tail including the typical trivializations like: There is still no known cause of autism, but efforts by the parents turned activists led to a record-breaking $860 million bill sponsored in Congress. Our children are worth much more than a trivial paragraph or two of fonts. It's disgraceful to see the sell out. ASA- ask your Senators to Support the Combating Autism Act> > > Just got this e-mail from ASA > > As you know, the Senate HELP Committee recently passed the Combating > Autism Act by a unanimous vote. While there is strong support for this > legislation, we must do everything we can to make sure it gets to the > floor of the Senate by August 4th.> > The Senate needs to hear from the autism community that this is an > important bill and they need to support it!> > Click here to take action today.> > Unsubscribe from receiving email, or change your email preferences.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2006 Report Share Posted July 28, 2006 I know. ASA- ask your Senators to Support the Combating > Autism Act> > > > > > Just got this e-mail from ASA > > > > As you know, the Senate HELP Committee recently passed the > Combating > > Autism Act by a unanimous vote. While there is strong support for > this > > legislation, we must do everything we can to make sure it gets to > the > > floor of the Senate by August 4th.> > > > The Senate needs to hear from the autism community that this is > an > > important bill and they need to support it!> > > > Click here to take action today.> > > > Unsubscribe from receiving email, or change your email > preferences.> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2006 Report Share Posted July 28, 2006 Rita, How hard is it to drop support for a bill that welches on a promise made to us by many groups? Safeminds and NAA know how to do the right thing by our children. This is our epidemic, too. Re: ASA- ask your Senators to Support the Combating Autism Act Kerbob, Do you not realize that NAA just put out an action alert and announcement of the vaxed vs. non-vaxed bill? This bill wouldn't even be on the table were it not for Mark Blaxill with SafeMinds who has been working diligently for months to make sure this legislation saw the light of day. NAA and SafeMinds are both funding the ongoing work of Burbacher. Your claim of a "cancer" growing in our locker rooms is unfounded, mean-spirited, and totally off the mark. Rita >>Not surprised. Hopefully parents with vaccine-induced autistic children are still contacting the FULL U.S. Senate to defeat this CAA bill. It appears there is some sort of cancer that's crept inside the NAA and Safeminds lockerrooms preventing them from supporting thimerosal and vaccine research now. ASA and the other major NPO sharks should be ashamed of belittling so many fine families. It's not our fault this bill sucks. A promise is a promise. Environmental does not necessarily tee up injected biologics. We were promised thimerosal and vaccine research were a part of this bill. Thousands of families were being lied to in order to stir up support for CAA. The CAA is a sham being shoved through by those with glowing, radioactive conflicts of interest. If you look down the list there's lots and lots of drug company in-flow. Please contact the U.S. Senate asking them to reject this bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2006 Report Share Posted July 28, 2006 , How does the movie end? There are more important things than a happy Hollywood ending. Two paragraphs explaining the triumphant CAA is not a valid answer. ASA- ask your Senators to Support the Combating Autism Act Just got this e-mail from ASA As you know, the Senate HELP Committee recently passed the Combating Autism Act by a unanimous vote. While there is strong support for this legislation, we must do everything we can to make sure it gets to the floor of the Senate by August 4th.The Senate needs to hear from the autism community that this is an important bill and they need to support it!Click here to take action today.Unsubscribe from receiving email, or change your email preferences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2006 Report Share Posted July 28, 2006 , This bill is not worth fighting for, but for our children's sake it's certainly worth fighting against. Our children were promised thimerosal and vaccine research would be a part of this bill. How do you expect a parent to treat their child based on a controversy? Without proper agreement to do the autism-appropriate research at whatever the cost his bill assures that this controversy will go on for years and years. Our children don't deserve to be treated the way the U.S. Senate HELP committee has treated them. For selfish self-exonerating reasons they insisted that NO thimerosal and vaccine research be a part of a bill entitled Combating Autism. Rather than HELP they fuel more controversy. There's the ancient saying with victory the samurai tightens his helmet. And by not walking away from this grossly inappropriate bill the sword of truth in hand is a just a rubber stage prop. I say stop the trifling and stop the pretentiousness like there's something else other than walking away from supporting this bill to do. RE: Re: ASA- ask your Senators to Support the Combating Autism Act I agree with Rita. Kerbob, I’m sorry but you are going way over the top. You can’t change anything if you don’t have any footing left. Safe Minds and NAA stayed until the last seconds at least trying to remove the “best practices” language as well as other language. Is it perfect?? No. But it could have potentially been a lot worse. Why don’t you join A-Champ in the “watch committee” instead of condemning people who work very hard to remove thimerosal and fund the thimerosal/autism science. They are not the enemy here. Attacking these two hard working groups is counterproductive to our mission and our children. That said, I understand you anger, just not your approach. - From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of Rita ShrefflerSent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 1:16 PMEOHarm Subject: Re: ASA- ask your Senators to Support the Combating Autism Act Kerbob, Do you not realize that NAA just put out an action alert and announcement of the vaxed vs. non-vaxed bill? This bill wouldn't even be on the table were it not for Mark Blaxill with SafeMinds who has been working diligently for months to make sure this legislation saw the light of day. NAA and SafeMinds are both funding the ongoing work of Burbacher. Your claim of a "cancer" growing in our locker rooms is unfounded, mean-spirited, and totally off the mark. Rita >>Not surprised. Hopefully parents with vaccine-induced autistic children are still contacting the FULL U.S. Senate to defeat this CAA bill. It appears there is some sort of cancer that's crept inside the NAA and Safeminds lockerrooms preventing them from supporting thimerosal and vaccine research now. ASA and the other major NPO sharks should be ashamed of belittling so many fine families. It's not our fault this bill sucks. A promise is a promise. Environmental does not necessarily tee up injected biologics. We were promised thimerosal and vaccine research were a part of this bill. Thousands of families were being lied to in order to stir up support for CAA. The CAA is a sham being shoved through by those with glowing, radioactive conflicts of interest. If you look down the list there's lots and lots of drug company in-flow. Please contact the U.S. Senate asking them to reject this bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2006 Report Share Posted July 28, 2006 Supporting Autism Speaks and this bogus bill is not productive. Our children need thimerosal and vaccine research, like yesterday. Do I need to post my mandate? OK, I will anyway. "We are in the midst of an international epidemic. Those responsible for investigating and dealing with this epidemic have failed. Among the reasons for this failure is the fact that they are faced with the prospect that they themselves may be responsible for the epidemic. Therefore, in their efforts to exonerate themselves they are an impediment to progress. I believe that public health officials know there is a problem; they are, however, willing to deny the problem and accept the loss of an unknown number of children on the basis that the success of public health policy - mandatory vaccination - by necessity involves sacrifice. Neither I, nor my colleagues subscribe to the belief that any child is expendable. History has encountered and dealt with such beliefs. You, the parent's and children, are the source of the inspiration and strength for our endeavours; our quest for truth through science - a science that is compassionate, uncompromising and uncompromised. I do not mean to stir you to mutiny, but be assured that armed with this science it is in your power to force this issue, in your pediatricians office, in Congress, in the Law Courts. Keep faith with your instincts - they have served you well."---Andy Wakefield (April 22, 2002 "POWER of ONE - IDEA" Rally, Washington DC) Anyone here care to try to dilute this? Re: ASA- ask your Senators to Support the Combating Autism Act >> Not surprised. Hopefully parents with vaccine-induced autistic children are still contacting the FULL U.S. Senate to defeat this CAA bill. It appears there is some sort of cancer that's crept inside the NAA and Safeminds lockerrooms preventing them from supporting thimerosal and vaccine research now.> Whoa! Who do you think is on these boards? They are "parents with vaccine-induced autistic children". Honorable & intelligent parents, some who I feel I owe my son's recovery to. I know I owe them my sanity. You may not agree with them, but in no way does that make them anything other than parents doing there best. Both NAA & Safeminds have accomplished great things.Go ahead and disagree, but when you throw out personal insults, you need to dial it down a notch. Where the hell would you be right now without Safeminds alerting you to the mercury/vaccine connection originally? Good idea to think before attacking the integrity of those who have pioneered the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2006 Report Share Posted July 28, 2006 Kerbob, I don't cave in, esp on things I believe in. I am unclear what you're saying about the other boards. I am on lots and know about rashes/viral/metal detox. Is that what you're bringing up here, that our kids are so toxic? Yes, I know as I live with it daily. > > > > > > Not surprised. Hopefully parents with vaccine-induced autistic > > children are still contacting the FULL U.S. Senate to defeat this CAA > > bill. It appears there is some sort of cancer that's crept inside the > > NAA and Safeminds lockerrooms preventing them from supporting > > thimerosal and vaccine research now. > > > > > > > Whoa! Who do you think is on these boards? They are " parents with > > vaccine-induced autistic children " . Honorable & intelligent parents, > > some who I feel I owe my son's recovery to. I know I owe them my > > sanity. You may not agree with them, but in no way does that make > > them anything other than parents doing there best. Both NAA & > > Safeminds have accomplished great things. > > Go ahead and disagree, but when you throw out personal insults, you > > need to dial it down a notch. Where the hell would you be right now > > without Safeminds alerting you to the mercury/vaccine connection > > originally? Good idea to think before attacking the integrity of > > those who have pioneered the way. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2006 Report Share Posted July 28, 2006 The sponsorship of meaningful research that Lyn listed is exactly why I think we autism community need to stop wasting our time with the gov and start raising the money ourselves. The gov isn't gonna investigate themselves. The more we focus on getting the money where it needs to go and stop wasting our time, finances, and lives begging an entity to essentially convict itself, the quicker they will have to cave in. If we have one group willing to push for funding specific research studies, we could raise the money. Let the gov waste more of our tax dollars on why one rat has a bigger head when he's had half his genes replaced, we can focus on healing our kids and protecting future kids. Debi > > " It appears there is some sort of cancer that's crept inside the NAA and Safeminds lockerrooms preventing them from supporting thimerosal and vaccine research now. " > > In response to the comment above, SafeMinds has always and continues to support thimerosal research. > To date we have sponsored over $750,000 in thimerosal specific studies which establishes SafeMinds as the largest private non-profit organization funding thimerosal research. Below is just a partial list of the investigation we have or are currently funding. These investigations have provided the scientific foundation for concerns related to the use of thimerosal to be taken seriously. This is in addition to numerous articles published by board members of SafeMinds, including the landmark paper published in Medical Hypotheses " Autism: A Novel form of Mercury Poisoning " in 2001. Our commitment to > pursuing scientific investigations into thimerosal in an effort to identify appropriate interventions to help a generation of children who have been exposed to this dangerous neurotoxin is relentless. > Lyn Redwood- Pres. SafeMinds > > > > Neurotoxic Effects of Postnatal Thimerosal are Mouse Strain Dependant > > > > The developing brain is uniquely susceptible to the neurotoxic hazard posed by mercurials. Host differences in maturation, metabolism, nutrition, sex, and autoimmunity influence outcomes. How population-based variability affects the safety of the ethylmercury-containing vaccine preservative, thimerosal, is unknown. Reported increases in the prevalence of autism, a highly heritable neuropsychiatric condition, are intensifying public focus on environmental exposures such as thimerosal. Immune profiles and family history in autism are frequently consistent with autoimmunity. We hypothesized that autoimmune propensity influences outcomes in mice following thimerosal challenges that mimic routine childhood immunizations. Autoimmune disease-sensitive SJL/J mice showed growth delay; reduced locomotion; exaggerated response to novelty; and densely packed, hyperchromic hippocampal neurons with altered glutamate receptors and transporters. Strains resistant to autoimmunity, C57BL/6J and BALB/cJ, were not susceptible. These findings implicate genetic influences and provide a model for investigating thimerosal-related neurotoxicity. > > > > Influence of Thimerosal on Phospholipid Methylation in Lymphoblasts > > > > It has been proposed that the ethylmercury-containing vaccine preservative thimerosal may contribute to autism, and our earlier studies demonstrated the ability of thimerosal to inhibit methionine synthase-dependent phospholipid methylation (PLM) in cultured human neuroblastoma cells. To investigate the possible contribution of this action of thimerosal to autism, we compared its ability to inhibit PLM measured with [14C]-formate, which labels the cellular pool of 5-methyltetrahydrofolate and therefore selectively measures methionine synthase-dependent PLM. PLM was measured in immortalized lymphoblasts from same-sex siblings who were discordant for autism, as obtained from the Autism Genetic Resource Exchange (AGRE). Basal PLM was not significantly different between lymphoblasts from autistic and non-autistic siblings. Thimerosal (100 nM) did not significantly affect PLM in lymphoblasts from non-autistic siblings, but significantly reduced PLM in lymphoblasts from autistic subjects (p < 0.05). Analysis of MTHFR and transcobalamin polymorphisms in a sample of 18 sib-pairs did not reveal a significant genetic pattern of association with autism. Preliminary studies indicate a trend for autistic subjects to exhibit higher rates of mitochondrial oxygen consumption. Taken together, our results to date provide evidence that methionine synthase-dependent methylation is more sensitive to thimerosal in cells from autistic children, consistent with a potential role of thimerosal in causing autism. > > > > Mechanisms of Thimerosal Toxicity > > > > Children with autism have increased vulnerability to pro-oxidant exposures such as ethyl mercury in Thimerosal as a result of increased frequency of genetic polymorphisms that reduce the synthesis of cysteine and glutathione, the major metabolites involved in the detoxification and excretion of mercury. This investigation will extend preliminary data on plasma levels in children with autism by measuring intracellular levels of thiol metabolites and selected enzyme activities in lymphoblastoid cell lines derived from children with autism and unrelated control children. Intracellular metabolic profiles will be correlated with genetic profiles of specific polymorphisms that negatively affect methionine, cysteine, and glutathione synthesis. > > > > These experiments will allow us to determine whether intracellular metabolites and related enzyme activities are abnormal in children with autism compared to controls and whether the intracellular metabolic profile reflects the profile previously observed in plasma (see preliminary data). If the observed metabolic profiles are associated with increased frequency of polymorphisms in the same metabolic pathway, it will provide support for our hypothesis that children with autism have a genetic vulnerability to heavy metal toxicity. In addition, we will expose lymphoblastoid cells derived from autistic children and unrelated controls to increasing doses of thimerosal (nanomolar to micromolar levels) and define individual dose-response curves in terms of cytotoxicity, glutathione depletion, and DNA damage. This investigation will determine whether subtoxic doses of ethylmercury in the presence of subtoxic levels of an additional pro-oxidant heavy metal such as lead, will interact synergistically to reach a threshold of toxicity. If lymphocytes from autistic children exhibit increased sensitivity to Thimerosal toxicity in culture compared to cells from normal children, the dose-response curve should be shifted to the left. An interaction between subtoxic doses of thimerosal and other heavy metals in autistic children, but not normal children, would further support the hypothesis that autistic children have an increased vulnerability to pro-oxidant exposures. Additionally, we will be able to determine whether an increase in thimerosal sensitivity is associated with abnormal genetic and metabolic profiles and glutathione depletion. If confirmed, these results would support for the hypothesis that children with autism have an increased sensitivity to thimerosal as a result of reduced intracellular levels of cysteine and glutathione, and consequently, reduced capacity to detoxify and excrete ethylmercury. > > > > Thimerosal Neurotoxicity > > > > The specific aim of this research project is to determine the extent of changes in the absolute number of neurons, astrocytes and microglia within six specific regions of the central nervous system of the nonhuman primate (NHP) Macaca fascicularis following a known low-level thimerosal (ethylmercury) exposure. The changes in absolute cell number will be determined by use of modern designed-based stereological methods utilizing the optical disector and fractionator principles. The experimental design will test the hypothesis that exposure to thimerosal will correlate with changes in cell number within specific CNS regions, suggesting thimerosal may cause structural damage to the CNS. The six regions to be examined will include sub regions of the frontal cortex (principle sulcus- memory processing, higher function), occipital pole (calcarine sulcus-visual cortex), thalamus (functional integration), hippocampus (memory), amygdala (emotion integration), and the cerebellum (coordination, motor skills). These regions have been selected for investigation because they are well-characterized anatomical regions of the NHP brain, and extensive information about these regions has been developed describing CNS effects of methylmercury exposure. Ultimately, the results from the investigation proposed in this study will help clarify issues about the safety of ethylmercury exposure. In addition, this proposed project will seek to determine the distribution of inorganic mercury within the six specific brain regions by use of an autometallographic technique capable of localizing mercury deposits within specific cell types in histology tissue sections. Previous mercury quantification has demonstrated that inorganic mercury is present in the brain of these animals following thimerosal exposure, suggesting ethylmercury may be demethylated in the brain in a manner similar to demethylation of methylmercury that we have previously reported. Prior to sampling of the brains for the stereology and autometallography methods described above, the intact brains will be scanned with magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) techniques to allow for the future determination of potential volumetric changes of (i) total brain volume, (ii) all segmented divisions of total brain volume (cerebral cortex, cerebral white matter, cerebellum, caudate, globus pallidus-putamen, diencephalon, brainstem), (iii) lobes of the cerebral cortex and (iv) individual cortical lobe sub regions (parcellation units) for the entire cerebral cortex. In addition, specific anti-body based histochemistry methods will be used to identify reactive glial cells and immune cells within these brain samples. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2006 Report Share Posted July 28, 2006 Great points from n. Notwithstanding same and the need to show respect/decorum, the thimerosal/vaccine connection and research into same should be the sine qua non for any legislation. When negotiating- remember this absolutely critical point: You must always be in a position to walk away from any negotiation. That allows you to fight another day and gives you leverage, which is critical to maintain pressure during that negotation. If you are not in that position, you have lost your leverage in the negotiation and things will not go well. Rather, it will be "hat in hand". Especially when dealing with Ali Baba and his congressional colleagues. The election season is the only time you get to address these issues directly. We're almost in that season. Is there a strategy here? And if not, how could that be? Re: Re: ASA- ask your Senators to Support the Combating Autism Act Is there ever going to be a group who does everything absolutely perfectly ? The human trait prevents this. Nothing every group does will satisfy or be agreed upon by everyone. There are always going to be differing views and strategies based upon dynamics and other factors which atre injected into the equation. This practice derives its genesis from congress where all sorts of "nothing to do with the main issue at hand stuff" is constantly tacked onto bills for discussion and passing. Until this practice ceases, this will play out continuously. I'm all for keeping a vigilent eye on congress and groups pushing through measures that will help our kids, but we must really take a hard look at how productive universal opposition to everything that we dont like will be. Criticism is fine but then offer a concrete well thought out replacement. ie,. I don't agree with your proposal because..etc.... This is how it should read because of the following........etc. We all want the same, but we really need to appreciate that safeminds etc. have our interests at heart. It's a tough situation and so many agendas are pulling at the decision makers' sleeves that we have to be positively suggestive so that they are more willing to consider our points of view Take care nredhead60707 <redhead60707 > wrote: Kerbob,I don't cave in, esp on things I believe in. I am unclear what you're saying about the other boards. I am on lotsand know about rashes/viral/metal detox. Is that what you're bringingup here, that our kids are so toxic? Yes, I know as I live with it daily.> > >> > > Not surprised. Hopefully parents with vaccine-induced autistic > > children are still contacting the FULL U.S. Senate to defeatthis CAA > > bill. It appears there is some sort of cancer that's creptinside the > > NAA and Safeminds lockerrooms preventing them from supporting > > thimerosal and vaccine research now.> > > > > > > Whoa! Who do you think is on these boards? They are "parents with > > vaccine-induced autistic children". Honorable & intelligentparents, > > some who I feel I owe my son's recovery to. I know I owe them my > > sanity. You may not agree with them, but in no way does that make > > them anything other than parents doing there best. Both NAA & > > Safeminds have accomplished great things.> > Go ahead and disagree, but when you throw out personal insults, you > > need to dial it down a notch. Where the hell would you be right now > > without Safeminds alerting you to the mercury/vaccine connection > > originally? Good idea to think before attacking the integrity of > > those who have pioneered the way.> > > > > >> Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2006 Report Share Posted July 28, 2006 I hear Fris might be making a public appearance down the road from me this weekend. Anyone up for an autism group? It's in Sweetwater, TN. Debi > > > > > > > > Not surprised. Hopefully parents with vaccine-induced autistic > > > children are still contacting the FULL U.S. Senate to defeat > this CAA > > > bill. It appears there is some sort of cancer that's crept > inside the > > > NAA and Safeminds lockerrooms preventing them from supporting > > > thimerosal and vaccine research now. > > > > > > > > > > Whoa! Who do you think is on these boards? They are " parents with > > > vaccine-induced autistic children " . Honorable & intelligent > parents, > > > some who I feel I owe my son's recovery to. I know I owe them my > > > sanity. You may not agree with them, but in no way does that make > > > them anything other than parents doing there best. Both NAA & > > > Safeminds have accomplished great things. > > > Go ahead and disagree, but when you throw out personal insults, you > > > need to dial it down a notch. Where the hell would you be right now > > > without Safeminds alerting you to the mercury/vaccine connection > > > originally? Good idea to think before attacking the integrity of > > > those who have pioneered the way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2006 Report Share Posted July 28, 2006 I don't post on here much and I haven't been following the CAA like I should but if they are seriously trying to push the bill through without independent research\investigation into the Vaccine-autism link it is an utter joke. What's the point?? To keep looking for the yet unidentified gene or the stealth virus?? Our allies caved. > > > > > > > > Not surprised. Hopefully parents with vaccine-induced autistic > > > children are still contacting the FULL U.S. Senate to defeat > this CAA > > > bill. It appears there is some sort of cancer that's crept > inside the > > > NAA and Safeminds lockerrooms preventing them from supporting > > > thimerosal and vaccine research now. > > > > > > > > > > Whoa! Who do you think is on these boards? They are " parents with > > > vaccine-induced autistic children " . Honorable & intelligent > parents, > > > some who I feel I owe my son's recovery to. I know I owe them my > > > sanity. You may not agree with them, but in no way does that make > > > them anything other than parents doing there best. Both NAA & > > > Safeminds have accomplished great things. > > > Go ahead and disagree, but when you throw out personal insults, you > > > need to dial it down a notch. Where the hell would you be right now > > > without Safeminds alerting you to the mercury/vaccine connection > > > originally? Good idea to think before attacking the integrity of > > > those who have pioneered the way. > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2006 Report Share Posted July 29, 2006 I wish I could. (I was born in Nashville) Re: ASA- ask your Senators to Support the Combating Autism Act I hear Fris might be making a public appearance down the road from methis weekend. Anyone up for an autism group? It's in Sweetwater, TN.Debi> > > >> > > > Not surprised. Hopefully parents with vaccine-inducedautistic > > > children are still contacting the FULL U.S. Senate to defeat> this CAA > > > bill. It appears there is some sort of cancer that's crept> inside the > > > NAA and Safeminds lockerrooms preventing them from supporting > > > thimerosal and vaccine research now.> > > > > > > > > > Whoa! Who do you think is on these boards? They are "parentswith > > > vaccine-induced autistic children". Honorable & intelligent> parents, > > > some who I feel I owe my son's recovery to. I know I owethem my > > > sanity. You may not agree with them, but in no way does thatmake > > > them anything other than parents doing there best. Both NAA & > > > Safeminds have accomplished great things.> > > Go ahead and disagree, but when you throw out personalinsults, you > > > need to dial it down a notch. Where the hell would you beright now > > > without Safeminds alerting you to the mercury/vaccineconnection > > > originally? Good idea to think before attacking theintegrity of > > > those who have pioneered the way.> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > >----------------------------------------------------------> Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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