Autism every day. Bob is wrong ! () Hildebrand is right!

[Guest guest]

If you go back to the Imus footage, Hildebrand spoke about

vaccines and the number of jabs that her son received in a single

day. Bob (her father) however continually tried to take the

conversation back to " all " potential causal factors whenever the

focus was on vaccines and thimerosal.

Bob represents Autism Speaks.

() Hildebrand does not represent Autism Speaks, neither

do I believe that she espouses their viewpoint on thimerosal

(http://www.autismspeaks.org/science_policy.php). did

not discuss Autism Speaks but instead lauded Generation Rescue as

being instrumental in her son's therapeutic course. She also

mentioned Dr. Kriegsman who is a part of the Thoughtful House.

is a huge hero for what she did on the Imus show.

Autism Speaks does NOT speak for your child if you believe that they

were injured by vaccines. Autism Speaks instead speaks for CDC

employee Marshalyn Yeargin-Allsop (AS Scientific Board Member) who

continually denies any causal relationship between vaccines and

autism, and who was behind the collusion that led to the fraudulent

Denmark studies. Autism Speaks also speaks for Andy Shih (AS Chief

Scientific Officer), who as the head of NAAR strongly advocated for

the continued use of thimerosal in vaccines

(http://lists.envirolink.org/pipermail/sareport/Week-of-Mon-

20050620/000439.html)

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> > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â That was just one opinion, remember that.Â

> You are never

> > >>>> going to be able to please everyone. I for one, am

extremely

> > >>>> grateful for this video. Even explaining to family

members

> and good

> > >>>> friends is difficult and I pointed all of them in the

> direction of

> > >>>> this film to show them the realities of my life. In no

way

> do I

> > >>>> want any of them to feel sorry for me. I need them to

> understand

> > >>>> that I cannot always do what everyone else tries to include

> me to

> > >>>> do. My life does not have the same flexibilities

> of " normal " family

> > >>>> life. More and more people think Autism is just a mild

> issue that

> > >>>> just takes extra behavioral teaching and better

parenting.Â

> We all

> > >>>> know that is not the case. Thank you for taking the time

to

> > >>>> participate in this film and giving all of us a place to

refer

> > >>>> people to when they do not understand the gravity of what

> Autism

> > >>>> presents. The biomedical treatments need to be

materialized

> in the

> > >>>> main stream but it is going to take many steps to get

> there. This

> > >>>> > was a BIG step! Thank you, Â

> > >>>> >Â Â Â

> > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Â Â

> > >>>> > ---------------------------------

> > >>>> >Â Â

> > >>>> >Â Â From: EOHarm

> [mailto:EOHarm ] On

> > >>>> Behalf Of michele iallonardi

> > >>>> > Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 2:45 PM

> > >>>> > EOHarm

> > >>>> > Subject: autism every day

> > >>>> >

> > >>>> >Â Â Â

> > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Hi-

> > >>>> >

> > >>>> >Â Â Â Â I've been thinking how and if I should reply to

> this email, as

> > >>>> I am not interested in arguing nor do I really have much

time

> to do

> > >>>> so anyway. But I kept thinking about it, which was taking

> up even

> > >>>> more time than responding-Â so... ...........

> > >>>> >

> > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Â

> > >>>> >

> > >>>> >Â Â Â Â I am the mother of three children who have

> autism. 1 has been

> > >>>> vaccinated, 2 have been partly vaccinated. I am very

> interested and

> > >>>> involved in biomedical interventions. They have been

> extremelyÂ

> > >>>> helpful (we have been doing them for over 2 years) but my

> son, as

> > >>>> you saw in the video, is far from recovered. My other 2

> children,

> > >>>> who are recovering, have been through no biomedical

> interventions

> > >>>> other than changing their diets.

> > >>>> >

> > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Â

> > >>>> >

> > >>>> >Â Â Â Â My point is this-Â when it comes to autism,

there

> is no one

> > >>>> answer for anything. Recovery is not only about biomedical

> > >>>> intervention- maybe for some children, but not for

> everyone. Autism

> > >>>> does have a genetic component (how do you explain 3

brothers

> with

> > >>>> autism?). I do believe that thimersol is a huge part of

the

> problem

> > >>>> (but not the only part)-Â my son with the most

vaccinations

> is the

> > >>>> most affected.  But, no, I don't think that all children

> can

> > >>>> recover biomedically. And yes, some children do recover

> without any

> > >>>> biomedical interventions at all.

> > >>>> >

> > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Â

> > >>>> >

> > >>>> >Â Â Â Â My life is by no means " pitiful. " Â I wrote an

> article in TAP

> > >>>> (the autism perspective)Â magazine last year entitled " I

> Have

> > >>>> Three " -Â talking about just how wonderful my life is with

my

> > >>>> children. Funny, I actually got flack about that article

> from some

> > >>>> people (who have 1 child with autism, and were struggling

to

> deal

> > >>>> with that) saying that I was too positive (or delusional or

> crazy).Â

> > >>>> I have written several articles since then about all of the

> > >>>> wonderful things parenting children with autism has brought

> into my

> > >>>> life. That being said, the reality is that life for my

boys

> is

> > >>>> difficult. Most people that I know don't realize that.Â

> Happiness

> > >>>> is a choice, yes, and we are happy. But being happy

doesn't

> mean

> > >>>> that it is easy for my son to sit through glutathione

shots,

> eat

> > >>>> special food, or live in a world where he can't effectively

> > >>>> communicate. I'm happy, but I'm not happy about that.Â

He

> is

> > >>>> suffering-Â and I can never sit by and just be completely

> happy when

> > >>>> all that is

> > >>>> > going on. I'll never settle and accept it either.Â

To

> quote

> > >>>> another mom from the film-Â " I'm never going to say I

> quit. It's

> > >>>> just not in my vocabulary. "

> > >>>> >

> > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Â

> > >>>> >

> > >>>> >Â Â Â Â To insinuate that I view my life as pitiful is

just

> a hurtful

> > >>>> statement that has no point. What I view as pitiful is

the

> time and

> > >>>> energy spent (or wasted) in our community criticizing each

> other.Â

> > >>>> My own life is an example of both genetic and biomedical

> causes to

> > >>>> autism. My own life is an example of how happiness is a

> choice-Â

> > >>>> because we have certainly had 4 years from hell, with many

> medical

> > >>>> problems, with three children diagnosed with autism in less

> than one

> > >>>> year, but we are happier than most people I know. We are

> broke, we

> > >>>> hate watching our children suffer, and we go through things

> that

> > >>>> most people- even some on this list- could never imagine.Â

> That is

> > >>>> the reality-Â and that is what the film wanted the public

to

> > >>>> understand.

> > >>>> >

> > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Â

> > >>>> >

> > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Let's be honest-Â life would be easier if our

kids

> didn't have

> > >>>> autism, don't you think?

> > >>>> >

> > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Â

> > >>>> >

> > >>>> >Â Â Â Â I'm sorry that you did not like what you saw in

the

> > >>>> documentary, and that you felt that the " drivel " was a

waste

> of your

> > >>>> time.  It was not a waste of mine.Â

> > >>>> >

> > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Although it was hard to let the world into our

home

> to see

> > >>>> what some of our reality is like, I am proud and honored

> that we

> > >>>> were part of the film.

> > >>>> >

> > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Â

> > >>>> >

> > >>>> >Â Â Â Â -Michele

> > >>>> >

> > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Â Â

> > >>>> >

> > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Â

> > >>>> >

> > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Message 8

> > >>>> >Â Â Â Â From: " Hooker " sploobnoober@

> > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Date: Tue May 16, 2006 8:42am(PDT)

> > >>>> > Subject: Re: Documentary on Autism Stuns Internet Viewers

> > >>>> >

> > >>>> > OK - get ready to flame me!

> > >>>> >

> > >>>> > That video is the most pathetic waste of bandwidth I've

ever

> > >>>> seen.Â

> > >>>> > Rather than depicting how " pitiful " out situations are

(if

> one

> > >>>> > indeed chooses to see them as pitiful), it would be much

> more

> > >>>> > helpful for those moms featured to talk about thimerosal,

> MMR,

> > >>>> DTaP

> > >>>> > and Proquad, AND the interventions that are indeed

working

> for

> > >>>> many

> > >>>> > children across the USA and abroad, to undo the

neurological

> > >>>> > consequences of this toxin and these vaccines...

> > >>>> >

> > >>>> > The drivel shown in the video may move folks to pity " our

> plight "

> > >>>> > but it also takes the emphasis off of answers, which is

in

> keeping

> > >>>> > of the commitment of Autism Speaks to bury the vaccine-

> autism

> > >>>> > issue. This is the type of message that their board

> members Andy

> > >>>> > Shih (former NAAR) and Marshalyn Yeargin-Allsop (CDC)

have

> done

> > >>>> for

> > >>>> > years.

> > >>>> >

> > >>>> > Outside of the vaccine issue, I have to state, " Happiness

> is a

> > >>>> > choice, " folks. If one chooses to see their situation as

> > >>>> miserable,

> > >>>> > hopeless and pathetic, it will be... Conversely, if we

> choose to

> > >>>> > embrace the mission that we have been given, there is a

lot

> more

> > >>>> joy

> > >>>> > in the journey...

> > >>>> >

> > >>>> > If the s want us all to be objects of pity, I pity

> them

> > >>>> >

> > >>>> >Â Â Â

> > >>>> >

> > >>>> >

> > >>>> >Â Â

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True, but we have moles inside that operation.

Hattip to asymmetric warfare.

Re: Documentary on Autism Stuns Internet Viewers> > >>>> >> > >>>> > OK - get ready to flame me!> > >>>> >> > >>>> > That video is the most pathetic waste of bandwidth I've ever> > >>>> seen. > > >>>> > Rather than depicting how "pitiful" out situations are (if > one> > >>>> > indeed chooses to see them as pitiful), it would be much > more> > >>>> > helpful for those moms featured to talk about thimerosal, > MMR,> > >>>> DTaP> > >>>> > and Proquad, AND the interventions that are indeed working > for> > >>>> many> > >>>> > children across the USA and abroad, to undo the neurological> > >>>> > consequences of this toxin and these vaccines...> > >>>> >> > >>>> > The drivel shown in the video may move folks to pity "our > plight"> > >>>> > but it also takes the emphasis off of answers, which is in > keeping> > >>>> > of the commitment of Autism Speaks to bury the vaccine-> autism> > >>>> > issue. This is the type of message that their board > members Andy> > >>>> > Shih (former NAAR) and Marshalyn Yeargin-Allsop (CDC) have > done> > >>>> for> > >>>> > years.> > >>>> >> > >>>> > Outside of the vaccine issue, I have to state, "Happiness > is a> > >>>> > choice," folks. If one chooses to see their situation as> > >>>> miserable,> > >>>> > hopeless and pathetic, it will be... Conversely, if we > choose to> > >>>> > embrace the mission that we have been given, there is a lot > more> > >>>> joy> > >>>> > in the journey...> > >>>> >> > >>>> > If the s want us all to be objects of pity, I pity > them> > >>>> >> > >>>> >   > > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> > Â

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I'm not so concerned about what who said when etc..... I want to see the struggling folks down in the day to day trenches get help. can afford to take her kid to Texas to thoughtful house and he'll get all and as much therapy etc as he needs. The s need to use their influence to help all people not in the philosophical abstract or research context but in actively helping to set up institutions which can provide financial supports to those who can't afford what they can. Thoughtful house has come about by all those who've come before them. They owe a debt to those whose trials and tribulations provided the platform for to get her kid help. She had a huge advantage over someone who has an adult kid with Autism. it's basically give back time....... The information that's come from so many others is benefitting 's kid. I don't

care what she said or didn't on the imus or any other show. It's not helping the struggling folks. There is and will be plenty of reseach on going with or without autism speaks etc....... Where was Bob wright before his grandson was hit by the autism whammy. why wasn't he soliciting and campaigning vigourously then as he is now As I've iterated before, they need to listen to the 'simple ssmall guy folks not the know it alls who've been responsible for creating special ed concepts self contained rooms etc.... They are only perpetuating and entrenching the wedge between our kids and those in mainstream. The focus should be on the elimination of segregation and all kids get educated together And Mr Bob , if you read this, I'd be willing to share many ideas I have that will definitely help all people with autism Thanks you take

care, n. Hooker <sploobnoober@...> wrote: If you go back to the Imus footage, Hildebrand spoke about vaccines and the number of jabs that her son received in a single day. Bob (her father) however continually tried to take the conversation back to "all" potential causal factors whenever the focus was on vaccines and thimerosal. Bob represents Autism Speaks. () Hildebrand does not represent Autism Speaks, neither do I believe that she espouses their viewpoint on thimerosal (http://www.autismspeaks.org/science_policy.php). did not discuss Autism Speaks but instead

lauded Generation Rescue as being instrumental in her son's therapeutic course. She also mentioned Dr. Kriegsman who is a part of the Thoughtful House. is a huge hero for what she did on the Imus show.Autism Speaks does NOT speak for your child if you believe that they were injured by vaccines. Autism Speaks instead speaks for CDC employee Marshalyn Yeargin-Allsop (AS Scientific Board Member) who continually denies any causal relationship between vaccines and autism, and who was behind the collusion that led to the fraudulent Denmark studies. Autism Speaks also speaks for Andy Shih (AS Chief Scientific Officer), who as the head of NAAR strongly advocated for the continued use of thimerosal in vaccines (http://lists.envirolink.org/pipermail/sareport/Week-of-Mon-20050620/000439.html)--- In

EOHarm , "celiacdaughter" <suemisiaszek@...> wrote:>> n, > > How are you so sure that this will be used to continue their status > quo? > The last time that I checked and her father were on > Imus talking about how 's son had x amount of vaccines in x > years and implied (or stated directly, I forget) that she believed > that there was a connection. The last time that I checked, > was supposed to appear in a discussion on thimerosal in vaccines > with Kirby and Dan Olmstead (yes, I know that she backed out > in the end, for reasons that will eventually be known, I believe). > The last time that I checked, we were told that and her father > were members on this list (unless they have run away recently). > Personally, I hope that they have not run away (hi , hi

> Bob). I also can't imagine what would have happened if the s > had put together a video where all the parents were screaming about > vaccines. At the point we are at now, I believe that people would > have walked out of that fund raiser (after contributing some money > due to the nature of the event) but at the same time shaking their > heads about the dangers of blaming vaccinations and what it would do > to society, etc. My goodness, I still get people arguing with me > about how necessary it is to get a thimerosal-containing flu > vaccination for my daughter because she's so freakin' high risk > because she has type 1 diabetes (gag me). Ok, so now I'm > calmer, my point is... I agree with Bob, where will the money go? > What more will be done? How much longer do we have to wait to find > out? I don't know.

> > Sue M. > > > > > > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}Â o\:* > {behavior:url> > >>>> (#default#VML);}Â w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}Â .shape> > >>>> {behavior:url(#default#VML);}Â Â Â Â Â Â Â st1\:*> {behavior:url> > >>>> (#default#ieooui) }Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â ,> >

>>>> >       That was just one opinion, remember that. > You are never> > >>>> going to be able to please everyone. I for one, am extremely> > >>>> grateful for this video. Even explaining to family members > and good> > >>>> friends is difficult and I pointed all of them in the > direction of> > >>>> this film to show them the realities of my life. In no way > do I> > >>>> want any of them to feel sorry for me. I need them to > understand> > >>>> that I cannot always do what everyone else tries to include > me to> > >>>> do. My life does not have the same flexibilities > of "normal" family> > >>>> life. More and more people think Autism is just a mild >

issue that> > >>>> just takes extra behavioral teaching and better parenting. > We all> > >>>> know that is not the case. Thank you for taking the time to> > >>>> participate in this film and giving all of us a place to refer> > >>>> people to when they do not understand the gravity of what > Autism> > >>>> presents. The biomedical treatments need to be materialized > in the> > >>>> main stream but it is going to take many steps to get > there. This> > >>>> > was a BIG step! Thank you,  > > >>>> >   > > >>>> >      > > >>>> > ---------------------------------> > >>>> >  > > >>>> > Â

From: EOHarm > [mailto:EOHarm ] On> > >>>> Behalf Of michele iallonardi> > >>>> > Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 2:45 PM> > >>>> > EOHarm > > >>>> > Subject: autism every day> > >>>> >> > >>>> >   > > >>>> >    Hi-> > >>>> >> > >>>> >    I've been thinking how and if I should reply to > this email, as> > >>>> I am not interested in arguing nor do I really have much time > to do> > >>>> so anyway. But I kept thinking about it, which was taking > up even> > >>>> more time than responding- so... ...........> > >>>> >> > >>>>

>     > > >>>> >> > >>>> >    I am the mother of three children who have > autism. 1 has been> > >>>> vaccinated, 2 have been partly vaccinated. I am very > interested and> > >>>> involved in biomedical interventions. They have been > extremely > > >>>> helpful (we have been doing them for over 2 years) but my > son, as> > >>>> you saw in the video, is far from recovered. My other 2 > children,> > >>>> who are recovering, have been through no biomedical > interventions> > >>>> other than changing their diets.> > >>>> >> > >>>> >     > > >>>> >> > >>>> >    My point is this- when it comes

to autism, there > is no one> > >>>> answer for anything. Recovery is not only about biomedical> > >>>> intervention- maybe for some children, but not for > everyone. Autism> > >>>> does have a genetic component (how do you explain 3 brothers > with> > >>>> autism?). I do believe that thimersol is a huge part of the > problem> > >>>> (but not the only part)- my son with the most vaccinations > is the> > >>>> most affected.  But, no, I don't think that all children > can> > >>>> recover biomedically. And yes, some children do recover > without any> > >>>> biomedical interventions at all.> > >>>> >> > >>>> >     > > >>>>

>> > >>>> >    My life is by no means "pitiful." I wrote an > article in TAP> > >>>> (the autism perspective) magazine last year entitled " I > Have> > >>>> Three"- talking about just how wonderful my life is with my> > >>>> children. Funny, I actually got flack about that article > from some> > >>>> people (who have 1 child with autism, and were struggling to > deal> > >>>> with that) saying that I was too positive (or delusional or > crazy). > > >>>> I have written several articles since then about all of the> > >>>> wonderful things parenting children with autism has brought > into my> > >>>> life. That being said, the reality is that life for my boys > is>

> >>>> difficult. Most people that I know don't realize that. > Happiness> > >>>> is a choice, yes, and we are happy. But being happy doesn't > mean> > >>>> that it is easy for my son to sit through glutathione shots, > eat> > >>>> special food, or live in a world where he can't effectively> > >>>> communicate. I'm happy, but I'm not happy about that. He > is> > >>>> suffering- and I can never sit by and just be completely > happy when> > >>>> all that is> > >>>> > going on. I'll never settle and accept it either. To > quote> > >>>> another mom from the film- "I'm never going to say I > quit. It's> > >>>> just not in my

vocabulary."> > >>>> >> > >>>> >     > > >>>> >> > >>>> >    To insinuate that I view my life as pitiful is just > a hurtful> > >>>> statement that has no point. What I view as pitiful is the > time and> > >>>> energy spent (or wasted) in our community criticizing each > other. > > >>>> My own life is an example of both genetic and biomedical > causes to> > >>>> autism. My own life is an example of how happiness is a > choice- > > >>>> because we have certainly had 4 years from hell, with many > medical> > >>>> problems, with three children diagnosed with autism in less > than one> > >>>> year, but we are happier than most people I

know. We are > broke, we> > >>>> hate watching our children suffer, and we go through things > that> > >>>> most people- even some on this list- could never imagine. > That is> > >>>> the reality- and that is what the film wanted the public to> > >>>> understand.> > >>>> >> > >>>> >     > > >>>> >> > >>>> >    Let's be honest- life would be easier if our kids > didn't have> > >>>> autism, don't you think?> > >>>> >> > >>>> >     > > >>>> >> > >>>> >    I'm sorry that you did not like what you saw in the> > >>>> documentary, and that you felt that the

"drivel" was a waste > of your> > >>>> time.  It was not a waste of mine. > > >>>> >> > >>>> >    Although it was hard to let the world into our home > to see> > >>>> what some of our reality is like, I am proud and honored > that we> > >>>> were part of the film.> > >>>> >> > >>>> >     > > >>>> >> > >>>> >    -Michele> > >>>> >> > >>>> >      > > >>>> >> > >>>> >     > > >>>> >> > >>>> >    Message 8> > >>>> >    From: " Hooker" sploobnoober@> > >>>> >  Â

 Date: Tue May 16, 2006 8:42am(PDT)> > >>>> > Subject: Re: Documentary on Autism Stuns Internet Viewers> > >>>> >> > >>>> > OK - get ready to flame me!> > >>>> >> > >>>> > That video is the most pathetic waste of bandwidth I've ever> > >>>> seen. > > >>>> > Rather than depicting how "pitiful" out situations are (if > one> > >>>> > indeed chooses to see them as pitiful), it would be much > more> > >>>> > helpful for those moms featured to talk about thimerosal, > MMR,> > >>>> DTaP> > >>>> > and Proquad, AND the interventions that are indeed working > for> > >>>> many> > >>>> > children across the USA and abroad, to

undo the neurological> > >>>> > consequences of this toxin and these vaccines...> > >>>> >> > >>>> > The drivel shown in the video may move folks to pity "our > plight"> > >>>> > but it also takes the emphasis off of answers, which is in > keeping> > >>>> > of the commitment of Autism Speaks to bury the vaccine-> autism> > >>>> > issue. This is the type of message that their board > members Andy> > >>>> > Shih (former NAAR) and Marshalyn Yeargin-Allsop (CDC) have > done> > >>>> for> > >>>> > years.> > >>>> >> > >>>> > Outside of the vaccine issue, I have to state, "Happiness > is a> > >>>> > choice," folks. If one

chooses to see their situation as> > >>>> miserable,> > >>>> > hopeless and pathetic, it will be... Conversely, if we > choose to> > >>>> > embrace the mission that we have been given, there is a lot > more> > >>>> joy> > >>>> > in the journey...> > >>>> >> > >>>> > If the s want us all to be objects of pity, I pity > them> > >>>> >> > >>>> >   > > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> > Â

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n

Is your " child " an adult?

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,

> > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â That was just one opinion, remember

that.Â

> > You are never

> > > >>>> going to be able to please everyone. I for one, am

> extremely

> > > >>>> grateful for this video. Even explaining to family

> members

> > and good

> > > >>>> friends is difficult and I pointed all of them in the

> > direction of

> > > >>>> this film to show them the realities of my life. In no

> way

> > do I

> > > >>>> want any of them to feel sorry for me. I need them to

> > understand

> > > >>>> that I cannot always do what everyone else tries to

include

> > me to

> > > >>>> do. My life does not have the same flexibilities

> > of " normal " family

> > > >>>> life. More and more people think Autism is just a mild

> > issue that

> > > >>>> just takes extra behavioral teaching and better

> parenting.Â

> > We all

> > > >>>> know that is not the case. Thank you for taking the

time

> to

> > > >>>> participate in this film and giving all of us a place to

> refer

> > > >>>> people to when they do not understand the gravity of what

> > Autism

> > > >>>> presents. The biomedical treatments need to be

> materialized

> > in the

> > > >>>> main stream but it is going to take many steps to get

> > there. This

> > > >>>> > was a BIG step! Thank you, Â

> > > >>>> >Â Â Â

> > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Â Â

> > > >>>> > ---------------------------------

> > > >>>> >Â Â

> > > >>>> >Â Â From: EOHarm

> > [mailto:EOHarm ] On

> > > >>>> Behalf Of michele iallonardi

> > > >>>> > Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 2:45 PM

> > > >>>> > EOHarm

> > > >>>> > Subject: autism every day

> > > >>>> >

> > > >>>> >Â Â Â

> > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Hi-

> > > >>>> >

> > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â I've been thinking how and if I should reply to

> > this email, as

> > > >>>> I am not interested in arguing nor do I really have much

> time

> > to do

> > > >>>> so anyway. But I kept thinking about it, which was

taking

> > up even

> > > >>>> more time than responding-Â so... ...........

> > > >>>> >

> > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Â

> > > >>>> >

> > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â I am the mother of three children who have

> > autism. 1 has been

> > > >>>> vaccinated, 2 have been partly vaccinated. I am very

> > interested and

> > > >>>> involved in biomedical interventions. They have been

> > extremelyÂ

> > > >>>> helpful (we have been doing them for over 2 years) but my

> > son, as

> > > >>>> you saw in the video, is far from recovered. My other 2

> > children,

> > > >>>> who are recovering, have been through no biomedical

> > interventions

> > > >>>> other than changing their diets.

> > > >>>> >

> > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Â

> > > >>>> >

> > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â My point is this-Â when it comes to autism,

> there

> > is no one

> > > >>>> answer for anything. Recovery is not only about

biomedical

> > > >>>> intervention- maybe for some children, but not for

> > everyone. Autism

> > > >>>> does have a genetic component (how do you explain 3

> brothers

> > with

> > > >>>> autism?). I do believe that thimersol is a huge part of

> the

> > problem

> > > >>>> (but not the only part)-Â my son with the most

> vaccinations

> > is the

> > > >>>> most affected.  But, no, I don't think that all

children

> > can

> > > >>>> recover biomedically. And yes, some children do recover

> > without any

> > > >>>> biomedical interventions at all.

> > > >>>> >

> > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Â

> > > >>>> >

> > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â My life is by no means " pitiful. " Â I wrote an

> > article in TAP

> > > >>>> (the autism perspective)Â magazine last year entitled "

I

> > Have

> > > >>>> Three " -Â talking about just how wonderful my life is

with

> my

> > > >>>> children. Funny, I actually got flack about that

article

> > from some

> > > >>>> people (who have 1 child with autism, and were struggling

> to

> > deal

> > > >>>> with that) saying that I was too positive (or delusional

or

> > crazy).Â

> > > >>>> I have written several articles since then about all of

the

> > > >>>> wonderful things parenting children with autism has

brought

> > into my

> > > >>>> life. That being said, the reality is that life for my

> boys

> > is

> > > >>>> difficult. Most people that I know don't realize

that.Â

> > Happiness

> > > >>>> is a choice, yes, and we are happy. But being happy

> doesn't

> > mean

> > > >>>> that it is easy for my son to sit through glutathione

> shots,

> > eat

> > > >>>> special food, or live in a world where he can't

effectively

> > > >>>> communicate. I'm happy, but I'm not happy about that.Â

> He

> > is

> > > >>>> suffering-Â and I can never sit by and just be

completely

> > happy when

> > > >>>> all that is

> > > >>>> > going on. I'll never settle and accept it either.Â

> To

> > quote

> > > >>>> another mom from the film-Â " I'm never going to say I

> > quit. It's

> > > >>>> just not in my vocabulary. "

> > > >>>> >

> > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Â

> > > >>>> >

> > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â To insinuate that I view my life as pitiful is

> just

> > a hurtful

> > > >>>> statement that has no point. What I view as pitiful is

> the

> > time and

> > > >>>> energy spent (or wasted) in our community criticizing

each

> > other.Â

> > > >>>> My own life is an example of both genetic and biomedical

> > causes to

> > > >>>> autism. My own life is an example of how happiness is a

> > choice-Â

> > > >>>> because we have certainly had 4 years from hell, with

many

> > medical

> > > >>>> problems, with three children diagnosed with autism in

less

> > than one

> > > >>>> year, but we are happier than most people I know. We

are

> > broke, we

> > > >>>> hate watching our children suffer, and we go through

things

> > that

> > > >>>> most people- even some on this list- could never

imagine.Â

> > That is

> > > >>>> the reality-Â and that is what the film wanted the

public

> to

> > > >>>> understand.

> > > >>>> >

> > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Â

> > > >>>> >

> > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Let's be honest-Â life would be easier if our

> kids

> > didn't have

> > > >>>> autism, don't you think?

> > > >>>> >

> > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Â

> > > >>>> >

> > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â I'm sorry that you did not like what you saw in

> the

> > > >>>> documentary, and that you felt that the " drivel " was a

> waste

> > of your

> > > >>>> time.  It was not a waste of mine.Â

> > > >>>> >

> > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Although it was hard to let the world into our

> home

> > to see

> > > >>>> what some of our reality is like, I am proud and

honored

> > that we

> > > >>>> were part of the film.

> > > >>>> >

> > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Â

> > > >>>> >

> > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â -Michele

> > > >>>> >

> > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Â Â

> > > >>>> >

> > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Â

> > > >>>> >

> > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Message 8

> > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â From: " Hooker " sploobnoober@

> > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Date: Tue May 16, 2006 8:42am(PDT)

> > > >>>> > Subject: Re: Documentary on Autism Stuns Internet

Viewers

> > > >>>> >

> > > >>>> > OK - get ready to flame me!

> > > >>>> >

> > > >>>> > That video is the most pathetic waste of bandwidth I've

> ever

> > > >>>> seen.Â

> > > >>>> > Rather than depicting how " pitiful " out situations are

> (if

> > one

> > > >>>> > indeed chooses to see them as pitiful), it would be

much

> > more

> > > >>>> > helpful for those moms featured to talk about

thimerosal,

> > MMR,

> > > >>>> DTaP

> > > >>>> > and Proquad, AND the interventions that are indeed

> working

> > for

> > > >>>> many

> > > >>>> > children across the USA and abroad, to undo the

> neurological

> > > >>>> > consequences of this toxin and these vaccines...

> > > >>>> >

> > > >>>> > The drivel shown in the video may move folks to

pity " our

> > plight "

> > > >>>> > but it also takes the emphasis off of answers, which is

> in

> > keeping

> > > >>>> > of the commitment of Autism Speaks to bury the vaccine-

> > autism

> > > >>>> > issue. This is the type of message that their board

> > members Andy

> > > >>>> > Shih (former NAAR) and Marshalyn Yeargin-Allsop (CDC)

> have

> > done

> > > >>>> for

> > > >>>> > years.

> > > >>>> >

> > > >>>> > Outside of the vaccine issue, I have to

state, " Happiness

> > is a

> > > >>>> > choice, " folks. If one chooses to see their situation

as

> > > >>>> miserable,

> > > >>>> > hopeless and pathetic, it will be... Conversely, if

we

> > choose to

> > > >>>> > embrace the mission that we have been given, there is a

> lot

> > more

> > > >>>> joy

> > > >>>> > in the journey...

> > > >>>> >

> > > >>>> > If the s want us all to be objects of pity, I

pity

> > them

> > > >>>> >

> > > >>>> >Â Â Â

> > > >>>> >

> > > >>>> >

> > > >>>> >Â Â

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The CA data, Singh's finding Of anti Bodies to one region of the brain (brain

cell damage by mercury alters tne cells and majes tnem antigenic, our findings that lactating mothrs given MMR VACCINES CONTANING THIMERSOL during lactation passed a factor to their nursing offspring causing autism, and our

findings of cures with oral chelation and measles-specific Cell Mediated Immune Inducer surely indicate that measles vaccine contsining thimersol was a causative factor(s) in at least half of these children.

Re: Documentary on Autism Stuns Internet Viewers> > >>>> >> > >>>> > OK - get ready to flame me!> > >>>> >> > >>>> > That video is the most pathetic waste of bandwidth I've ever> > >>>> seen. > > >>>> > Rather than depicting how "pitiful" out situations are (if > one> > >>>> > indeed chooses to see them as pitiful), it would be much > more> > >>>> > helpful for those moms featured to talk about thimerosal, > MMR,> > >>>> DTaP> > >>>> > and Proquad, AND the interventions that are indeed working > for> > >>>> many> > >>>> > children across the USA and abroad, to undo the neurological> > >>>> > consequences of this toxin and these vaccines..> > >>>> >> > >>>> > The drivel shown in the video may move folks to pity "our > plight"> > >>>> > but it also takes the emphasis off of answers, which is in > keeping> > >>>> > of the commitment of Autism Speaks to bury the vaccine-> autism> > >>>> > issue. This is the type of message that their board > members Andy> > >>>> > Shih (former NAAR) and Marshalyn Yeargin-Allsop (CDC) have > done> > >>>> for> > >>>> > years.> > >>>> >> > >>>> > Outside of the vaccine issue, I have to state, "Happiness > is a> > >>>> > choice," folks. If one chooses to see their situation as> > >>>> miserable,> > >>>> > hopeless and pathetic, it will be... Conversely, if we > choose to> > >>>> > embrace the mission that we have been given, there is a lot > more> > >>>> joy> > >>>> > in the journey...> > >>>> >> > >>>> > If the s want us all to be objects of pity, I pity > them> > >>>> >> > >>>> >   > > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> > Â

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That's true of everyone. It's simply human nature.

Reeve wasn't concerned about spinal injuries until he had one.

Fox didn't care about Parkinsons until he was a victim.

We should all be thankful that there is help.

We should try to take advantage of that.

Re: Documentary on Autism Stuns Internet Viewers> > >>>> >> > >>>> > OK - get ready to flame me!> > >>>> >> > >>>> > That video is the most pathetic waste of bandwidth I've ever> > >>>> seen. > > >>>> > Rather than depicting how "pitiful" out situations are (if > one> > >>>> > indeed chooses to see them as pitiful), it would be much > more> > >>>> > helpful for those moms featured to talk about thimerosal, > MMR,> > >>>> DTaP> > >>>> > and Proquad, AND the interventions that are indeed working > for> > >>>> many> > >>>> > children across the USA and abroad, to undo the neurological> > >>>> > consequences of this toxin and these vaccines...> > >>>> >> > >>>> > The drivel shown in the video may move folks to pity "our > plight"> > >>>> > but it also takes the emphasis off of answers, which is in > keeping> > >>>> > of the commitment of Autism Speaks to bury the vaccine-> autism> > >>>> > issue. This is the type of message that their board > members Andy> > >>>> > Shih (former NAAR) and Marshalyn Yeargin-Allsop (CDC) have > done> > >>>> for> > >>>> > years.> > >>>> >> > >>>> > Outside of the vaccine issue, I have to state, "Happiness > is a> > >>>> > choice," folks. If one chooses to see their situation as> > >>>> miserable,> > >>>> > hopeless and pathetic, it will be... Conversely, if we > choose to> > >>>> > embrace the mission that we have been given, there is a lot > more> > >>>> joy> > >>>> > in the journey...> > >>>> >> > >>>> > If the s want us all to be objects of pity, I pity > them> > >>>> >> > >>>> >   > > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> > Â

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Absolutely, but is doesn't mean that one shouldn't endeavour to try and focus attention onto different seldom concerned with aspects of a particular issue. And yes the sad thing is that we accept that people only react when personally touched. that facet of the human condition needs to change yesterday. again those who have much are obliged to help those who don't Take care julianH <stratpat@...> wrote: That's true of everyone. It's simply human nature. Reeve wasn't concerned about spinal injuries until he had one. Fox didn't care about Parkinsons until he was a

victim. We should all be thankful that there is help. We should try to take advantage of that. Re: Documentary on Autism Stuns Internet Viewers> > >>>> >> > >>>> > OK - get ready to flame me!> > >>>> >> > >>>> > That video is the most pathetic waste of bandwidth I've ever> > >>>> seen. > > >>>> > Rather than depicting how "pitiful" out situations are (if > one> > >>>> > indeed chooses to see them as pitiful), it would be much > more> > >>>> > helpful for those moms featured to talk about thimerosal, > MMR,> > >>>> DTaP> > >>>> >

and Proquad, AND the interventions that are indeed working > for> > >>>> many> > >>>> > children across the USA and abroad, to undo the neurological> > >>>> > consequences of this toxin and these vaccines...> > >>>> >> > >>>> > The drivel shown in the video may move folks to pity "our > plight"> > >>>> > but it also takes the emphasis off of answers, which is in > keeping> > >>>> > of the commitment of Autism Speaks to bury the vaccine-> autism> > >>>> > issue. This is the type of message that their board > members Andy> > >>>> > Shih (former NAAR) and Marshalyn Yeargin-Allsop (CDC) have > done> > >>>> for> > >>>> > years.> >

>>>> >> > >>>> > Outside of the vaccine issue, I have to state, "Happiness > is a> > >>>> > choice," folks. If one chooses to see their situation as> > >>>> miserable,> > >>>> > hopeless and pathetic, it will be... Conversely, if we > choose to> > >>>> > embrace the mission that we have been given, there is a lot > more> > >>>> joy> > >>>> > in the journey...> > >>>> >> > >>>> > If the s want us all to be objects of pity, I pity > them> > >>>> >> > >>>> >   > > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> > Â

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Agreed.

Thanks.

Re: Documentary on Autism Stuns Internet Viewers> > >>>> >> > >>>> > OK - get ready to flame me!> > >>>> >> > >>>> > That video is the most pathetic waste of bandwidth I've ever> > >>>> seen. > > >>>> > Rather than depicting how "pitiful" out situations are (if > one> > >>>> > indeed chooses to see them as pitiful), it would be much > more> > >>>> > helpful for those moms featured to talk about thimerosal, > MMR,> > >>>> DTaP> > >>>> > and Proquad, AND the interventions that are indeed working > for> > >>>> many> > >>>> > children across the USA and abroad, to undo the neurological> > >>>> > consequences of this toxin and these vaccines...> > >>>> >> > >>>> > The drivel shown in the video may move folks to pity "our > plight"> > >>>> > but it also takes the emphasis off of answers, which is in > keeping> > >>>> > of the commitment of Autism Speaks to bury the vaccine-> autism> > >>>> > issue. This is the type of message that their board > members Andy> > >>>> > Shih (former NAAR) and Marshalyn Yeargin-Allsop (CDC) have > done> > >>>> for> > >>>> > years.> > >>>> >> > >>>> > Outside of the vaccine issue, I have to state, "Happiness > is a> > >>>> > choice," folks. If one chooses to see their situation as> > >>>> miserable,> > >>>> > hopeless and pathetic, it will be... Conversely, if we > choose to> > >>>> > embrace the mission that we have been given, there is a lot > more> > >>>> joy> > >>>> > in the journey...> > >>>> >> > >>>> > If the s want us all to be objects of pity, I pity > them> > >>>> >> > >>>> >   > > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> > Â

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No she's 13 but actually thinks like one. The school speech path did some testing last year and she tested out on having a vocabulary comprehention of a 21.5 yr person............ and she had no formal elementary education. When i speak with parents of adults with autism I make a special effort to thank them for all they've done to make my journey easier. I never forget this for one second. It really cuts me up to see so many families struggling, especially because none of us did anythinjg "wrong" to give our kids autism. Take care n Hooker <sploobnoober@...> wrote: nIs your "child" an adult?> > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}Â o\:* > > {behavior:url> > > >>>> (#default#VML);}Â w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}> Â .shape> > > >>>>

{behavior:url(#default#VML);}       st1\:*> > {behavior:url> > > >>>> (#default#ieooui) }               ,> > > >>>> >       That was just one opinion, remember that. > > You are never> > > >>>> going to be able to please everyone. I for one, am > extremely> > > >>>> grateful for this video. Even explaining to family > members > > and good> > > >>>> friends is difficult and I pointed all of them in the > > direction of> > > >>>> this film to show them the realities of my life. In no > way > > do I> > > >>>> want any of them to feel sorry for me. I need them to > > understand> > > >>>> that I cannot

always do what everyone else tries to include > > me to> > > >>>> do. My life does not have the same flexibilities > > of "normal" family> > > >>>> life. More and more people think Autism is just a mild > > issue that> > > >>>> just takes extra behavioral teaching and better > parenting. > > We all> > > >>>> know that is not the case. Thank you for taking the time > to> > > >>>> participate in this film and giving all of us a place to > refer> > > >>>> people to when they do not understand the gravity of what > > Autism> > > >>>> presents. The biomedical treatments need to be > materialized > > in the> > > >>>> main stream but it is going to take

many steps to get > > there. This> > > >>>> > was a BIG step! Thank you,  > > > >>>> >   > > > >>>> >      > > > >>>> > ---------------------------------> > > >>>> >  > > > >>>> >  From: EOHarm > > [mailto:EOHarm ] On> > > >>>> Behalf Of michele iallonardi> > > >>>> > Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 2:45 PM> > > >>>> > EOHarm > > > >>>> > Subject: autism every day> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >   > > > >>>> >    Hi-> > > >>>> >> > > >>>>

>    I've been thinking how and if I should reply to > > this email, as> > > >>>> I am not interested in arguing nor do I really have much > time > > to do> > > >>>> so anyway. But I kept thinking about it, which was taking > > up even> > > >>>> more time than responding- so... ...........> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >     > > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >    I am the mother of three children who have > > autism. 1 has been> > > >>>> vaccinated, 2 have been partly vaccinated. I am very > > interested and> > > >>>> involved in biomedical interventions. They have been > > extremely > > > >>>> helpful

(we have been doing them for over 2 years) but my > > son, as> > > >>>> you saw in the video, is far from recovered. My other 2 > > children,> > > >>>> who are recovering, have been through no biomedical > > interventions> > > >>>> other than changing their diets.> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >     > > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >    My point is this- when it comes to autism, > there > > is no one> > > >>>> answer for anything. Recovery is not only about biomedical> > > >>>> intervention- maybe for some children, but not for > > everyone. Autism> > > >>>> does have a genetic component (how do you explain 3 > brothers

> > with> > > >>>> autism?). I do believe that thimersol is a huge part of > the > > problem> > > >>>> (but not the only part)- my son with the most > vaccinations > > is the> > > >>>> most affected.  But, no, I don't think that all children > > can> > > >>>> recover biomedically. And yes, some children do recover > > without any> > > >>>> biomedical interventions at all.> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >     > > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >    My life is by no means "pitiful." I wrote an > > article in TAP> > > >>>> (the autism perspective) magazine last year entitled " I > >

Have> > > >>>> Three"- talking about just how wonderful my life is with > my> > > >>>> children. Funny, I actually got flack about that article > > from some> > > >>>> people (who have 1 child with autism, and were struggling > to > > deal> > > >>>> with that) saying that I was too positive (or delusional or > > crazy). > > > >>>> I have written several articles since then about all of the> > > >>>> wonderful things parenting children with autism has brought > > into my> > > >>>> life. That being said, the reality is that life for my > boys > > is> > > >>>> difficult. Most people that I know don't realize that. > > Happiness> >

> >>>> is a choice, yes, and we are happy. But being happy > doesn't > > mean> > > >>>> that it is easy for my son to sit through glutathione > shots, > > eat> > > >>>> special food, or live in a world where he can't effectively> > > >>>> communicate. I'm happy, but I'm not happy about that. > He > > is> > > >>>> suffering- and I can never sit by and just be completely > > happy when> > > >>>> all that is> > > >>>> > going on. I'll never settle and accept it either. > To > > quote> > > >>>> another mom from the film- "I'm never going to say I > > quit. It's> > > >>>> just not in my vocabulary.">

> > >>>> >> > > >>>> >     > > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >    To insinuate that I view my life as pitiful is > just > > a hurtful> > > >>>> statement that has no point. What I view as pitiful is > the > > time and> > > >>>> energy spent (or wasted) in our community criticizing each > > other. > > > >>>> My own life is an example of both genetic and biomedical > > causes to> > > >>>> autism. My own life is an example of how happiness is a > > choice- > > > >>>> because we have certainly had 4 years from hell, with many > > medical> > > >>>> problems, with three children diagnosed with autism in less > >

than one> > > >>>> year, but we are happier than most people I know. We are > > broke, we> > > >>>> hate watching our children suffer, and we go through things > > that> > > >>>> most people- even some on this list- could never imagine. > > That is> > > >>>> the reality- and that is what the film wanted the public > to> > > >>>> understand.> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >     > > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >    Let's be honest- life would be easier if our > kids > > didn't have> > > >>>> autism, don't you think?> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >     > > >

>>>> >> > > >>>> >    I'm sorry that you did not like what you saw in > the> > > >>>> documentary, and that you felt that the "drivel" was a > waste > > of your> > > >>>> time.  It was not a waste of mine. > > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >    Although it was hard to let the world into our > home > > to see> > > >>>> what some of our reality is like, I am proud and honored > > that we> > > >>>> were part of the film.> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >     > > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >    -Michele> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >     Â

> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >     > > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >    Message 8> > > >>>> >    From: " Hooker" sploobnoober@> > > >>>> >    Date: Tue May 16, 2006 8:42am(PDT)> > > >>>> > Subject: Re: Documentary on Autism Stuns Internet Viewers> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> > OK - get ready to flame me!> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> > That video is the most pathetic waste of bandwidth I've > ever> > > >>>> seen. > > > >>>> > Rather than depicting how "pitiful" out situations are > (if > > one> > > >>>> > indeed chooses to see them as pitiful), it would

be much > > more> > > >>>> > helpful for those moms featured to talk about thimerosal, > > MMR,> > > >>>> DTaP> > > >>>> > and Proquad, AND the interventions that are indeed > working > > for> > > >>>> many> > > >>>> > children across the USA and abroad, to undo the > neurological> > > >>>> > consequences of this toxin and these vaccines...> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> > The drivel shown in the video may move folks to pity "our > > plight"> > > >>>> > but it also takes the emphasis off of answers, which is > in > > keeping> > > >>>> > of the commitment of Autism Speaks to bury the vaccine-> > autism> > >

>>>> > issue. This is the type of message that their board > > members Andy> > > >>>> > Shih (former NAAR) and Marshalyn Yeargin-Allsop (CDC) > have > > done> > > >>>> for> > > >>>> > years.> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> > Outside of the vaccine issue, I have to state, "Happiness > > is a> > > >>>> > choice," folks. If one chooses to see their situation as> > > >>>> miserable,> > > >>>> > hopeless and pathetic, it will be... Conversely, if we > > choose to> > > >>>> > embrace the mission that we have been given, there is a > lot > > more> > > >>>> joy> > > >>>> > in the

journey...> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> > If the s want us all to be objects of pity, I pity > > them> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >Â Â Â > > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >Â Â

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That's super - congratulations! I agree - This was a much tough

road 10-15-20+ years ago...

I asked about your daughter's age, since all too many times no one

will discuss recovery of older children, which is entirely

possible. Walsh's daughter started a course of therapy at

age 12 I believe and was fully recovered by age 13. There are many

other examples of this type of recovery. A good author to look at

regarding neuroplasticity is Schwartz (UCLA). He reports of

stroke victims recovering speech and use of limbs many years after

their initial injury.

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> o\:*

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> > > > >>>> (#default#VML);}Â w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}

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> > > > >>>> {behavior:url(#default#VML);}Â Â Â Â Â Â Â st1\:*

> > > {behavior:url

> > > > >>>> (#default#ieooui) }Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â

> ,

> > > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â That was just one opinion, remember

> that.Â

> > > You are never

> > > > >>>> going to be able to please everyone. I for one, am

> > extremely

> > > > >>>> grateful for this video. Even explaining to family

> > members

> > > and good

> > > > >>>> friends is difficult and I pointed all of them in the

> > > direction of

> > > > >>>> this film to show them the realities of my life. In

no

> > way

> > > do I

> > > > >>>> want any of them to feel sorry for me. I need them to

> > > understand

> > > > >>>> that I cannot always do what everyone else tries to

> include

> > > me to

> > > > >>>> do. My life does not have the same flexibilities

> > > of " normal " family

> > > > >>>> life. More and more people think Autism is just a

mild

> > > issue that

> > > > >>>> just takes extra behavioral teaching and better

> > parenting.Â

> > > We all

> > > > >>>> know that is not the case. Thank you for taking the

> time

> > to

> > > > >>>> participate in this film and giving all of us a place

to

> > refer

> > > > >>>> people to when they do not understand the gravity of

what

> > > Autism

> > > > >>>> presents. The biomedical treatments need to be

> > materialized

> > > in the

> > > > >>>> main stream but it is going to take many steps to get

> > > there. This

> > > > >>>> > was a BIG step! Thank you, Â

> > > > >>>> >Â Â Â

> > > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Â Â

> > > > >>>> > ---------------------------------

> > > > >>>> >Â Â

> > > > >>>> >Â Â From: EOHarm

> > > [mailto:EOHarm ] On

> > > > >>>> Behalf Of michele iallonardi

> > > > >>>> > Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 2:45 PM

> > > > >>>> > EOHarm

> > > > >>>> > Subject: autism every day

> > > > >>>> >

> > > > >>>> >Â Â Â

> > > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Hi-

> > > > >>>> >

> > > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â I've been thinking how and if I should reply

to

> > > this email, as

> > > > >>>> I am not interested in arguing nor do I really have

much

> > time

> > > to do

> > > > >>>> so anyway. But I kept thinking about it, which was

> taking

> > > up even

> > > > >>>> more time than responding-Â so... ...........

> > > > >>>> >

> > > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Â

> > > > >>>> >

> > > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â I am the mother of three children who have

> > > autism. 1 has been

> > > > >>>> vaccinated, 2 have been partly vaccinated. I am very

> > > interested and

> > > > >>>> involved in biomedical interventions. They have been

> > > extremelyÂ

> > > > >>>> helpful (we have been doing them for over 2 years) but

my

> > > son, as

> > > > >>>> you saw in the video, is far from recovered. My other

2

> > > children,

> > > > >>>> who are recovering, have been through no biomedical

> > > interventions

> > > > >>>> other than changing their diets.

> > > > >>>> >

> > > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Â

> > > > >>>> >

> > > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â My point is this-Â when it comes to autism,

> > there

> > > is no one

> > > > >>>> answer for anything. Recovery is not only about

> biomedical

> > > > >>>> intervention- maybe for some children, but not for

> > > everyone. Autism

> > > > >>>> does have a genetic component (how do you explain 3

> > brothers

> > > with

> > > > >>>> autism?). I do believe that thimersol is a huge part

of

> > the

> > > problem

> > > > >>>> (but not the only part)-Â my son with the most

> > vaccinations

> > > is the

> > > > >>>> most affected.  But, no, I don't think that all

> children

> > > can

> > > > >>>> recover biomedically. And yes, some children do

recover

> > > without any

> > > > >>>> biomedical interventions at all.

> > > > >>>> >

> > > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Â

> > > > >>>> >

> > > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â My life is by no means " pitiful. " Â I wrote

an

> > > article in TAP

> > > > >>>> (the autism perspective)Â magazine last year

entitled "

> I

> > > Have

> > > > >>>> Three " -Â talking about just how wonderful my life is

> with

> > my

> > > > >>>> children. Funny, I actually got flack about that

> article

> > > from some

> > > > >>>> people (who have 1 child with autism, and were

struggling

> > to

> > > deal

> > > > >>>> with that) saying that I was too positive (or

delusional

> or

> > > crazy).Â

> > > > >>>> I have written several articles since then about all of

> the

> > > > >>>> wonderful things parenting children with autism has

> brought

> > > into my

> > > > >>>> life. That being said, the reality is that life for

my

> > boys

> > > is

> > > > >>>> difficult. Most people that I know don't realize

> that.Â

> > > Happiness

> > > > >>>> is a choice, yes, and we are happy. But being happy

> > doesn't

> > > mean

> > > > >>>> that it is easy for my son to sit through glutathione

> > shots,

> > > eat

> > > > >>>> special food, or live in a world where he can't

> effectively

> > > > >>>> communicate. I'm happy, but I'm not happy about

that.Â

> > He

> > > is

> > > > >>>> suffering-Â and I can never sit by and just be

> completely

> > > happy when

> > > > >>>> all that is

> > > > >>>> > going on. I'll never settle and accept it

either.Â

> > To

> > > quote

> > > > >>>> another mom from the film-Â " I'm never going to say I

> > > quit. It's

> > > > >>>> just not in my vocabulary. "

> > > > >>>> >

> > > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Â

> > > > >>>> >

> > > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â To insinuate that I view my life as pitiful

is

> > just

> > > a hurtful

> > > > >>>> statement that has no point. What I view as pitiful

is

> > the

> > > time and

> > > > >>>> energy spent (or wasted) in our community criticizing

> each

> > > other.Â

> > > > >>>> My own life is an example of both genetic and

biomedical

> > > causes to

> > > > >>>> autism. My own life is an example of how happiness is

a

> > > choice-Â

> > > > >>>> because we have certainly had 4 years from hell, with

> many

> > > medical

> > > > >>>> problems, with three children diagnosed with autism in

> less

> > > than one

> > > > >>>> year, but we are happier than most people I know. We

> are

> > > broke, we

> > > > >>>> hate watching our children suffer, and we go through

> things

> > > that

> > > > >>>> most people- even some on this list- could never

> imagine.Â

> > > That is

> > > > >>>> the reality-Â and that is what the film wanted the

> public

> > to

> > > > >>>> understand.

> > > > >>>> >

> > > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Â

> > > > >>>> >

> > > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Let's be honest-Â life would be easier if

our

> > kids

> > > didn't have

> > > > >>>> autism, don't you think?

> > > > >>>> >

> > > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Â

> > > > >>>> >

> > > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â I'm sorry that you did not like what you saw

in

> > the

> > > > >>>> documentary, and that you felt that the " drivel " was a

> > waste

> > > of your

> > > > >>>> time.  It was not a waste of mine.Â

> > > > >>>> >

> > > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Although it was hard to let the world into

our

> > home

> > > to see

> > > > >>>> what some of our reality is like, I am proud and

> honored

> > > that we

> > > > >>>> were part of the film.

> > > > >>>> >

> > > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Â

> > > > >>>> >

> > > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â -Michele

> > > > >>>> >

> > > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Â Â

> > > > >>>> >

> > > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Â

> > > > >>>> >

> > > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Message 8

> > > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â From: " Hooker " sploobnoober@

> > > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Date: Tue May 16, 2006 8:42am(PDT)

> > > > >>>> > Subject: Re: Documentary on Autism Stuns Internet

> Viewers

> > > > >>>> >

> > > > >>>> > OK - get ready to flame me!

> > > > >>>> >

> > > > >>>> > That video is the most pathetic waste of bandwidth

I've

> > ever

> > > > >>>> seen.Â

> > > > >>>> > Rather than depicting how " pitiful " out situations

are

> > (if

> > > one

> > > > >>>> > indeed chooses to see them as pitiful), it would be

> much

> > > more

> > > > >>>> > helpful for those moms featured to talk about

> thimerosal,

> > > MMR,

> > > > >>>> DTaP

> > > > >>>> > and Proquad, AND the interventions that are indeed

> > working

> > > for

> > > > >>>> many

> > > > >>>> > children across the USA and abroad, to undo the

> > neurological

> > > > >>>> > consequences of this toxin and these vaccines...

> > > > >>>> >

> > > > >>>> > The drivel shown in the video may move folks to

> pity " our

> > > plight "

> > > > >>>> > but it also takes the emphasis off of answers, which

is

> > in

> > > keeping

> > > > >>>> > of the commitment of Autism Speaks to bury the

vaccine-

> > > autism

> > > > >>>> > issue. This is the type of message that their board

> > > members Andy

> > > > >>>> > Shih (former NAAR) and Marshalyn Yeargin-Allsop (CDC)

> > have

> > > done

> > > > >>>> for

> > > > >>>> > years.

> > > > >>>> >

> > > > >>>> > Outside of the vaccine issue, I have to

> state, " Happiness

> > > is a

> > > > >>>> > choice, " folks. If one chooses to see their

situation

> as

> > > > >>>> miserable,

> > > > >>>> > hopeless and pathetic, it will be... Conversely, if

> we

> > > choose to

> > > > >>>> > embrace the mission that we have been given, there is

a

> > lot

> > > more

> > > > >>>> joy

> > > > >>>> > in the journey...

> > > > >>>> >

> > > > >>>> > If the s want us all to be objects of pity, I

> pity

> > > them

> > > > >>>> >

> > > > >>>> >Â Â Â

> > > > >>>> >

> > > > >>>> >

> > > > >>>> >Â Â

[Guest guest]

Fox didn't care about Parkinsons until he was a victim.

Diet Pepsi Poster Child.

http://tinyurl.com/kzocs http://tinyurl.com/gf3gk http://tinyurl.com/j7w2a http://tinyurl.com/z84rd

-----Original Message-----From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ]On Behalf Of H Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 1:42 PMEOHarm Subject: Re: Autism every day. Bob is wrong ! () Hildebrand is right!

That's true of everyone. It's simply human nature.

Reeve wasn't concerned about spinal injuries until he had one.

Fox didn't care about Parkinsons until he was a victim.

We should all be thankful that there is help.

We should try to take advantage of that.

Re: Documentary on Autism Stuns Internet Viewers> > >>>> >> > >>>> > OK - get ready to flame me!> > >>>> >> > >>>> > That video is the most pathetic waste of bandwidth I've ever> > >>>> seen. > > >>>> > Rather than depicting how "pitiful" out situations are (if > one> > >>>> > indeed chooses to see them as pitiful), it would be much > more> > >>>> > helpful for those moms featured to talk about thimerosal, > MMR,> > >>>> DTaP> > >>>> > and Proquad, AND the interventions that are indeed working > for> > >>>> many> > >>>> > children across the USA and abroad, to undo the neurological> > >>>> > consequences of this toxin and these vaccines...> > >>>> >> > >>>> > The drivel shown in the video may move folks to pity "our > plight"> > >>>> > but it also takes the emphasis off of answers, which is in > keeping> > >>>> > of the commitment of Autism Speaks to bury the vaccine-> autism> > >>>> > issue. This is the type of message that their board > members Andy> > >>>> > Shih (former NAAR) and Marshalyn Yeargin-Allsop (CDC) have > done> > >>>> for> > >>>> > years.> > >>>> >> > >>>> > Outside of the vaccine issue, I have to state, "Happiness > is a> > >>>> > choice," folks. If one chooses to see their situation as> > >>>> miserable,> > >>>> > hopeless and pathetic, it will be... Conversely, if we > choose to> > >>>> > embrace the mission that we have been given, there is a lot > more> > >>>> joy> > >>>> > in the journey...> > >>>> >> > >>>> > If the s want us all to be objects of pity, I pity > them> > >>>> >> > >>>> >   > > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> > Â

[Guest guest]

I agree. How many parents do you know that were well educated about autism

before they

suspected their own child had it or recieved a diagnosis? I wasn't. Many times,

it takes

something that affects your daily life to light a fire under your ass and

motivate you to do

something about it.

> > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}Â o\:*

> > {behavior:url

> > > >>>> (#default#VML);}Â w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}

> Â .shape

> > > >>>> {behavior:url(#default#VML);}Â Â Â Â Â Â Â st1\:*

> > {behavior:url

> > > >>>> (#default#ieooui) }Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â ,

> > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â That was just one opinion, remember that.Â

> > You are never

> > > >>>> going to be able to please everyone. I for one, am

> extremely

> > > >>>> grateful for this video. Even explaining to family

> members

> > and good

> > > >>>> friends is difficult and I pointed all of them in the

> > direction of

> > > >>>> this film to show them the realities of my life. In no

> way

> > do I

> > > >>>> want any of them to feel sorry for me. I need them to

> > understand

> > > >>>> that I cannot always do what everyone else tries to include

> > me to

> > > >>>> do. My life does not have the same flexibilities

> > of " normal " family

> > > >>>> life. More and more people think Autism is just a mild

> > issue that

> > > >>>> just takes extra behavioral teaching and better

> parenting.Â

> > We all

> > > >>>> know that is not the case. Thank you for taking the time

> to

> > > >>>> participate in this film and giving all of us a place to

> refer

> > > >>>> people to when they do not understand the gravity of what

> > Autism

> > > >>>> presents. The biomedical treatments need to be

> materialized

> > in the

> > > >>>> main stream but it is going to take many steps to get

> > there. This

> > > >>>> > was a BIG step! Thank you, Â

> > > >>>> >Â Â Â

> > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Â Â

> > > >>>> > ---------------------------------

> > > >>>> >Â Â

> > > >>>> >Â Â From: EOHarm

> > [mailto:EOHarm ] On

> > > >>>> Behalf Of michele iallonardi

> > > >>>> > Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 2:45 PM

> > > >>>> > EOHarm

> > > >>>> > Subject: autism every day

> > > >>>> >

> > > >>>> >Â Â Â

> > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Hi-

> > > >>>> >

> > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â I've been thinking how and if I should reply to

> > this email, as

> > > >>>> I am not interested in arguing nor do I really have much

> time

> > to do

> > > >>>> so anyway. But I kept thinking about it, which was taking

> > up even

> > > >>>> more time than responding-Â so... ...........

> > > >>>> >

> > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Â

> > > >>>> >

> > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â I am the mother of three children who have

> > autism. 1 has been

> > > >>>> vaccinated, 2 have been partly vaccinated. I am very

> > interested and

> > > >>>> involved in biomedical interventions. They have been

> > extremelyÂ

> > > >>>> helpful (we have been doing them for over 2 years) but my

> > son, as

> > > >>>> you saw in the video, is far from recovered. My other 2

> > children,

> > > >>>> who are recovering, have been through no biomedical

> > interventions

> > > >>>> other than changing their diets.

> > > >>>> >

> > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Â

> > > >>>> >

> > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â My point is this-Â when it comes to autism,

> there

> > is no one

> > > >>>> answer for anything. Recovery is not only about biomedical

> > > >>>> intervention- maybe for some children, but not for

> > everyone. Autism

> > > >>>> does have a genetic component (how do you explain 3

> brothers

> > with

> > > >>>> autism?). I do believe that thimersol is a huge part of

> the

> > problem

> > > >>>> (but not the only part)-Â my son with the most

> vaccinations

> > is the

> > > >>>> most affected.  But, no, I don't think that all children

> > can

> > > >>>> recover biomedically. And yes, some children do recover

> > without any

> > > >>>> biomedical interventions at all.

> > > >>>> >

> > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Â

> > > >>>> >

> > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â My life is by no means " pitiful. " Â I wrote an

> > article in TAP

> > > >>>> (the autism perspective)Â magazine last year entitled " I

> > Have

> > > >>>> Three " -Â talking about just how wonderful my life is with

> my

> > > >>>> children. Funny, I actually got flack about that article

> > from some

> > > >>>> people (who have 1 child with autism, and were struggling

> to

> > deal

> > > >>>> with that) saying that I was too positive (or delusional or

> > crazy).Â

> > > >>>> I have written several articles since then about all of the

> > > >>>> wonderful things parenting children with autism has brought

> > into my

> > > >>>> life. That being said, the reality is that life for my

> boys

> > is

> > > >>>> difficult. Most people that I know don't realize that.Â

> > Happiness

> > > >>>> is a choice, yes, and we are happy. But being happy

> doesn't

> > mean

> > > >>>> that it is easy for my son to sit through glutathione

> shots,

> > eat

> > > >>>> special food, or live in a world where he can't effectively

> > > >>>> communicate. I'm happy, but I'm not happy about that.Â

> He

> > is

> > > >>>> suffering-Â and I can never sit by and just be completely

> > happy when

> > > >>>> all that is

> > > >>>> > going on. I'll never settle and accept it either.Â

> To

> > quote

> > > >>>> another mom from the film-Â " I'm never going to say I

> > quit. It's

> > > >>>> just not in my vocabulary. "

> > > >>>> >

> > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Â

> > > >>>> >

> > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â To insinuate that I view my life as pitiful is

> just

> > a hurtful

> > > >>>> statement that has no point. What I view as pitiful is

> the

> > time and

> > > >>>> energy spent (or wasted) in our community criticizing each

> > other.Â

> > > >>>> My own life is an example of both genetic and biomedical

> > causes to

> > > >>>> autism. My own life is an example of how happiness is a

> > choice-Â

> > > >>>> because we have certainly had 4 years from hell, with many

> > medical

> > > >>>> problems, with three children diagnosed with autism in less

> > than one

> > > >>>> year, but we are happier than most people I know. We are

> > broke, we

> > > >>>> hate watching our children suffer, and we go through things

> > that

> > > >>>> most people- even some on this list- could never imagine.Â

> > That is

> > > >>>> the reality-Â and that is what the film wanted the public

> to

> > > >>>> understand.

> > > >>>> >

> > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Â

> > > >>>> >

> > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Let's be honest-Â life would be easier if our

> kids

> > didn't have

> > > >>>> autism, don't you think?

> > > >>>> >

> > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Â

> > > >>>> >

> > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â I'm sorry that you did not like what you saw in

> the

> > > >>>> documentary, and that you felt that the " drivel " was a

> waste

> > of your

> > > >>>> time.  It was not a waste of mine.Â

> > > >>>> >

> > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Although it was hard to let the world into our

> home

> > to see

> > > >>>> what some of our reality is like, I am proud and honored

> > that we

> > > >>>> were part of the film.

> > > >>>> >

> > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Â

> > > >>>> >

> > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â -Michele

> > > >>>> >

> > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Â Â

> > > >>>> >

> > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Â

> > > >>>> >

> > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Message 8

> > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â From: " Hooker " sploobnoober@

> > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Date: Tue May 16, 2006 8:42am(PDT)

> > > >>>> > Subject: Re: Documentary on Autism Stuns Internet Viewers

> > > >>>> >

> > > >>>> > OK - get ready to flame me!

> > > >>>> >

> > > >>>> > That video is the most pathetic waste of bandwidth I've

> ever

> > > >>>> seen.Â

> > > >>>> > Rather than depicting how " pitiful " out situations are

> (if

> > one

> > > >>>> > indeed chooses to see them as pitiful), it would be much

> > more

> > > >>>> > helpful for those moms featured to talk about thimerosal,

> > MMR,

> > > >>>> DTaP

> > > >>>> > and Proquad, AND the interventions that are indeed

> working

> > for

> > > >>>> many

> > > >>>> > children across the USA and abroad, to undo the

> neurological

> > > >>>> > consequences of this toxin and these vaccines...

> > > >>>> >

> > > >>>> > The drivel shown in the video may move folks to pity " our

> > plight "

> > > >>>> > but it also takes the emphasis off of answers, which is

> in

> > keeping

> > > >>>> > of the commitment of Autism Speaks to bury the vaccine-

> > autism

> > > >>>> > issue. This is the type of message that their board

> > members Andy

> > > >>>> > Shih (former NAAR) and Marshalyn Yeargin-Allsop (CDC)

> have

> > done

> > > >>>> for

> > > >>>> > years.

> > > >>>> >

> > > >>>> > Outside of the vaccine issue, I have to state, " Happiness

> > is a

> > > >>>> > choice, " folks. If one chooses to see their situation as

> > > >>>> miserable,

> > > >>>> > hopeless and pathetic, it will be... Conversely, if we

> > choose to

> > > >>>> > embrace the mission that we have been given, there is a

> lot

> > more

> > > >>>> joy

> > > >>>> > in the journey...

> > > >>>> >

> > > >>>> > If the s want us all to be objects of pity, I pity

> > them

> > > >>>> >

> > > >>>> >Â Â Â

> > > >>>> >

> > > >>>> >

> > > >>>> >Â Â

[Guest guest]

Well the irony here is if you placed my daughter in a chair and walked away, she probably start stimming and rocking and making sounds etc..... An "ignorant" unfamiliar person with no knowledge of autism would probably enter observe and draw conclusions as to her intelligence capability/ies etc.... She is far from cured but we have retrieved a person back from the abyss of the vaccine injured vapid stare that she displayed after her vaccine assault. we can relate to her as a person even tho' she doesn't speak, (she types) All our kids are smart they just have many hoops to jump through in order to expressively communicate in the manner that NT's decree is the accepted method. But hey they all MUST and DESERVE the same rights as everyone else. They're not handicapped or disabled they just function and operate differently from how most people do. ...We're wise enough to know that there is no cure

for Autism and interesting that you cite Walsh's case.......just supports my thesis that if all our kids had the same shot at the "cure" how much better we'd all be........... This is why it's so important to help evertone The s are fortunate to be in a position to do just that. We all have to do better. this autism thing is huge. It pervades accross all lines etc.........The spectrum is expanding so rapidly and there are a host of things we all can do to slow it down. When one really considers things..everyone of us has"autism" in some form or another, we all hasve quirks and peccadillos etc... just we manage them better ............The alarming increase in kids with issues and behaviour anomalies and study learning issues and anti social issues just illustrate that we need collective common sense to prevail. Psychotropic drugs et al won't do squat, they only mask problems...yet imagine if all the

$$$'s and resources that went into ritalin adderal strattera etc focussed upon cleaning up diets environmental toxins etc..........our long term prognosis would be so much better. HBO is currently running a film on global warming. they display photos taken from EXACTLY the same vantage positions in 1905 and 2005 The marked difference in ice recession is stunning. only about 100 yrs and the impact is staggering, 100 yrs in global evolution is nothing .man we're in for it if we don't put the brakes on Take care n Hooker <sploobnoober@...> wrote: That's super - congratulations! I agree - This was a much tough road 10-15-20+ years ago...I asked about your daughter's age, since all too many times no one will discuss recovery of older

children, which is entirely possible. Walsh's daughter started a course of therapy at age 12 I believe and was fully recovered by age 13. There are many other examples of this type of recovery. A good author to look at regarding neuroplasticity is Schwartz (UCLA). He reports of stroke victims recovering speech and use of limbs many years after their initial injury.> > > > >>>> >        v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} > o\:* > > > {behavior:url> > > > >>>> (#default#VML);} w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}> >  .shape> > > > >>>> {behavior:url(#default#VML);}       st1\:*> > > {behavior:url> > > > >>>> (#default#ieooui) }               > ,> > > > >>>> >       That was just one opinion, remember > that. > > > You are never> > > > >>>> going to be able to please everyone. I for one, am > > extremely> > > > >>>> grateful for this video. Even explaining to family > > members

> > > and good> > > > >>>> friends is difficult and I pointed all of them in the > > > direction of> > > > >>>> this film to show them the realities of my life. In no > > way > > > do I> > > > >>>> want any of them to feel sorry for me. I need them to > > > understand> > > > >>>> that I cannot always do what everyone else tries to > include > > > me to> > > > >>>> do. My life does not have the same flexibilities > > > of "normal" family> > > > >>>> life. More and more people think Autism is just a mild > > > issue that> > > > >>>> just takes extra behavioral teaching and better > > parenting. > > > We

all> > > > >>>> know that is not the case. Thank you for taking the > time > > to> > > > >>>> participate in this film and giving all of us a place to > > refer> > > > >>>> people to when they do not understand the gravity of what > > > Autism> > > > >>>> presents. The biomedical treatments need to be > > materialized > > > in the> > > > >>>> main stream but it is going to take many steps to get > > > there. This> > > > >>>> > was a BIG step! Thank you,  > > > > >>>> >   > > > > >>>> >      > > > > >>>> > ---------------------------------> > > > >>>>

>Â Â > > > > >>>> >Â Â From: EOHarm > > > [mailto:EOHarm ] On> > > > >>>> Behalf Of michele iallonardi> > > > >>>> > Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 2:45 PM> > > > >>>> > EOHarm > > > > >>>> > Subject: autism every day> > > > >>>> >> > > > >>>> >Â Â Â > > > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Hi-> > > > >>>> >> > > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â I've been thinking how and if I should reply to > > > this email, as> > > > >>>> I am not interested in arguing nor do I really have much > > time > > > to do> > > > >>>> so

anyway. But I kept thinking about it, which was > taking > > > up even> > > > >>>> more time than responding- so... ...........> > > > >>>> >> > > > >>>> >     > > > > >>>> >> > > > >>>> >    I am the mother of three children who have > > > autism. 1 has been> > > > >>>> vaccinated, 2 have been partly vaccinated. I am very > > > interested and> > > > >>>> involved in biomedical interventions. They have been > > > extremely > > > > >>>> helpful (we have been doing them for over 2 years) but my > > > son, as> > > > >>>> you saw in the video, is far from recovered. My other 2

> > > children,> > > > >>>> who are recovering, have been through no biomedical > > > interventions> > > > >>>> other than changing their diets.> > > > >>>> >> > > > >>>> >     > > > > >>>> >> > > > >>>> >    My point is this- when it comes to autism, > > there > > > is no one> > > > >>>> answer for anything. Recovery is not only about > biomedical> > > > >>>> intervention- maybe for some children, but not for > > > everyone. Autism> > > > >>>> does have a genetic component (how do you explain 3 > > brothers > > > with> > > > >>>> autism?). I do believe

that thimersol is a huge part of > > the > > > problem> > > > >>>> (but not the only part)- my son with the most > > vaccinations > > > is the> > > > >>>> most affected.  But, no, I don't think that all > children > > > can> > > > >>>> recover biomedically. And yes, some children do recover > > > without any> > > > >>>> biomedical interventions at all.> > > > >>>> >> > > > >>>> >     > > > > >>>> >> > > > >>>> >    My life is by no means "pitiful." I wrote an > > > article in TAP> > > > >>>> (the autism perspective) magazine last year entitled " > I

> > > Have> > > > >>>> Three"- talking about just how wonderful my life is > with > > my> > > > >>>> children. Funny, I actually got flack about that > article > > > from some> > > > >>>> people (who have 1 child with autism, and were struggling > > to > > > deal> > > > >>>> with that) saying that I was too positive (or delusional > or > > > crazy). > > > > >>>> I have written several articles since then about all of > the> > > > >>>> wonderful things parenting children with autism has > brought > > > into my> > > > >>>> life. That being said, the reality is that life for my > > boys > > > is> >

> > >>>> difficult. Most people that I know don't realize > that. > > > Happiness> > > > >>>> is a choice, yes, and we are happy. But being happy > > doesn't > > > mean> > > > >>>> that it is easy for my son to sit through glutathione > > shots, > > > eat> > > > >>>> special food, or live in a world where he can't > effectively> > > > >>>> communicate. I'm happy, but I'm not happy about that. > > He > > > is> > > > >>>> suffering- and I can never sit by and just be > completely > > > happy when> > > > >>>> all that is> > > > >>>> > going on. I'll never settle and accept it

either. > > To > > > quote> > > > >>>> another mom from the film- "I'm never going to say I > > > quit. It's> > > > >>>> just not in my vocabulary."> > > > >>>> >> > > > >>>> >     > > > > >>>> >> > > > >>>> >    To insinuate that I view my life as pitiful is > > just > > > a hurtful> > > > >>>> statement that has no point. What I view as pitiful is > > the > > > time and> > > > >>>> energy spent (or wasted) in our community criticizing > each > > > other. > > > > >>>> My own life is an example of both genetic and biomedical > > > causes

to> > > > >>>> autism. My own life is an example of how happiness is a > > > choice- > > > > >>>> because we have certainly had 4 years from hell, with > many > > > medical> > > > >>>> problems, with three children diagnosed with autism in > less > > > than one> > > > >>>> year, but we are happier than most people I know. We > are > > > broke, we> > > > >>>> hate watching our children suffer, and we go through > things > > > that> > > > >>>> most people- even some on this list- could never > imagine. > > > That is> > > > >>>> the reality- and that is what the film wanted the > public > > to> > > >

>>>> understand.> > > > >>>> >> > > > >>>> >     > > > > >>>> >> > > > >>>> >    Let's be honest- life would be easier if our > > kids > > > didn't have> > > > >>>> autism, don't you think?> > > > >>>> >> > > > >>>> >     > > > > >>>> >> > > > >>>> >    I'm sorry that you did not like what you saw in > > the> > > > >>>> documentary, and that you felt that the "drivel" was a > > waste > > > of your> > > > >>>> time.  It was not a waste of mine. > > > > >>>> >> > > > >>>>

>    Although it was hard to let the world into our > > home > > > to see> > > > >>>> what some of our reality is like, I am proud and > honored > > > that we> > > > >>>> were part of the film.> > > > >>>> >> > > > >>>> >     > > > > >>>> >> > > > >>>> >    -Michele> > > > >>>> >> > > > >>>> >      > > > > >>>> >> > > > >>>> >     > > > > >>>> >> > > > >>>> >    Message 8> > > > >>>> >    From: " Hooker" sploobnoober@> > > > >>>> >  Â

 Date: Tue May 16, 2006 8:42am(PDT)> > > > >>>> > Subject: Re: Documentary on Autism Stuns Internet > Viewers> > > > >>>> >> > > > >>>> > OK - get ready to flame me!> > > > >>>> >> > > > >>>> > That video is the most pathetic waste of bandwidth I've > > ever> > > > >>>> seen. > > > > >>>> > Rather than depicting how "pitiful" out situations are > > (if > > > one> > > > >>>> > indeed chooses to see them as pitiful), it would be > much > > > more> > > > >>>> > helpful for those moms featured to talk about > thimerosal, > > > MMR,> > > > >>>> DTaP> > > >

>>>> > and Proquad, AND the interventions that are indeed > > working > > > for> > > > >>>> many> > > > >>>> > children across the USA and abroad, to undo the > > neurological> > > > >>>> > consequences of this toxin and these vaccines...> > > > >>>> >> > > > >>>> > The drivel shown in the video may move folks to > pity "our > > > plight"> > > > >>>> > but it also takes the emphasis off of answers, which is > > in > > > keeping> > > > >>>> > of the commitment of Autism Speaks to bury the vaccine-> > > autism> > > > >>>> > issue. This is the type of message that their board > > > members Andy>

> > > >>>> > Shih (former NAAR) and Marshalyn Yeargin-Allsop (CDC) > > have > > > done> > > > >>>> for> > > > >>>> > years.> > > > >>>> >> > > > >>>> > Outside of the vaccine issue, I have to > state, "Happiness > > > is a> > > > >>>> > choice," folks. If one chooses to see their situation > as> > > > >>>> miserable,> > > > >>>> > hopeless and pathetic, it will be... Conversely, if > we > > > choose to> > > > >>>> > embrace the mission that we have been given, there is a > > lot > > > more> > > > >>>> joy> > > > >>>> > in the

journey...> > > > >>>> >> > > > >>>> > If the s want us all to be objects of pity, I > pity > > > them> > > > >>>> >> > > > >>>> >Â Â Â > > > > >>>> >> > > > >>>> >> > > > >>>> >Â Â

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Correct but now we have an alarming ratio bof 1:166........10 years ago the if it has'nt affected me personally I don't have to pay attention to it syndrome was understandable....NOT ANYMORE with this current 1:166 ratio everyone is obliged to seriously contemplate the role they need to play in this game. Autism is the one issue, which because it crosses all races, genders, etnic creeds religions etc is in the best position to really turn humanity around. We all cannot afford not to heed this opportunity. Sooner than later it will touch every family if the current onslaught and tide isn't stemmed. Those in powerful positions need to provide sincere and honest leadership. We must steer this ship into port otherwise we'll all buckle under it's weight, financialy and socially and healthwise Take care n King <medfordkings1@...> wrote: I agree. How many parents do you know that were well educated about autism before they suspected their own child had it or recieved a diagnosis? I wasn't. Many times, it takes something that affects your daily life to light a fire under your ass and motivate you to do something about it.> > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}Â o\:* > > {behavior:url> > > >>>> (#default#VML);}Â w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}> Â .shape> > > >>>> {behavior:url(#default#VML);}Â Â Â Â Â Â Â st1\:*> > {behavior:url> > > >>>> (#default#ieooui) }Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â ,> > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â

That was just one opinion, remember that. > > You are never> > > >>>> going to be able to please everyone. I for one, am > extremely> > > >>>> grateful for this video. Even explaining to family > members > > and good> > > >>>> friends is difficult and I pointed all of them in the > > direction of> > > >>>> this film to show them the realities of my life. In no > way > > do I> > > >>>> want any of them to feel sorry for me. I need them to >

> understand> > > >>>> that I cannot always do what everyone else tries to include > > me to> > > >>>> do. My life does not have the same flexibilities > > of "normal" family> > > >>>> life. More and more people think Autism is just a mild > > issue that> > > >>>> just takes extra behavioral teaching and better > parenting. > > We all> > > >>>> know that is not the case. Thank you for taking the time > to> > > >>>> participate in this film and giving all of us

a place to > refer> > > >>>> people to when they do not understand the gravity of what > > Autism> > > >>>> presents. The biomedical treatments need to be > materialized > > in the> > > >>>> main stream but it is going to take many steps to get > > there. This> > > >>>> > was a BIG step! Thank you,  > > > >>>> >   > > > >>>> >      > > > >>>> > ---------------------------------> > >

>>>> >Â Â > > > >>>> >Â Â From: EOHarm > > [mailto:EOHarm ] On> > > >>>> Behalf Of michele iallonardi> > > >>>> > Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 2:45 PM> > > >>>> > EOHarm > > > >>>> > Subject: autism every day> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >Â Â Â > > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Hi-> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â I've been thinking how and if I should reply to

> > this email, as> > > >>>> I am not interested in arguing nor do I really have much > time > > to do> > > >>>> so anyway. But I kept thinking about it, which was taking > > up even> > > >>>> more time than responding- so... ...........> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >     > > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >    I am the mother of three children who have > > autism. 1 has been> > > >>>>

vaccinated, 2 have been partly vaccinated. I am very > > interested and> > > >>>> involved in biomedical interventions. They have been > > extremely > > > >>>> helpful (we have been doing them for over 2 years) but my > > son, as> > > >>>> you saw in the video, is far from recovered. My other 2 > > children,> > > >>>> who are recovering, have been through no biomedical > > interventions> > > >>>> other than changing their diets.> > > >>>> >> > >

>>>> >     > > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >    My point is this- when it comes to autism, > there > > is no one> > > >>>> answer for anything. Recovery is not only about biomedical> > > >>>> intervention- maybe for some children, but not for > > everyone. Autism> > > >>>> does have a genetic component (how do you explain 3 > brothers > > with> > > >>>> autism?). I do believe that thimersol is a huge part of > the

> > problem> > > >>>> (but not the only part)- my son with the most > vaccinations > > is the> > > >>>> most affected.  But, no, I don't think that all children > > can> > > >>>> recover biomedically. And yes, some children do recover > > without any> > > >>>> biomedical interventions at all.> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >     > > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >    My life is by no means

"pitiful." I wrote an > > article in TAP> > > >>>> (the autism perspective) magazine last year entitled " I > > Have> > > >>>> Three"- talking about just how wonderful my life is with > my> > > >>>> children. Funny, I actually got flack about that article > > from some> > > >>>> people (who have 1 child with autism, and were struggling > to > > deal> > > >>>> with that) saying that I was too positive (or delusional or > > crazy). > > >

>>>> I have written several articles since then about all of the> > > >>>> wonderful things parenting children with autism has brought > > into my> > > >>>> life. That being said, the reality is that life for my > boys > > is> > > >>>> difficult. Most people that I know don't realize that. > > Happiness> > > >>>> is a choice, yes, and we are happy. But being happy > doesn't > > mean> > > >>>> that it is easy for my son to sit through glutathione > shots,

> > eat> > > >>>> special food, or live in a world where he can't effectively> > > >>>> communicate. I'm happy, but I'm not happy about that. > He > > is> > > >>>> suffering- and I can never sit by and just be completely > > happy when> > > >>>> all that is> > > >>>> > going on. I'll never settle and accept it either. > To > > quote> > > >>>> another mom from the film- "I'm never going to say I > >

quit. It's> > > >>>> just not in my vocabulary."> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >     > > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >    To insinuate that I view my life as pitiful is > just > > a hurtful> > > >>>> statement that has no point. What I view as pitiful is > the > > time and> > > >>>> energy spent (or wasted) in our community criticizing each > > other. > > > >>>> My own life is an example of both genetic

and biomedical > > causes to> > > >>>> autism. My own life is an example of how happiness is a > > choice- > > > >>>> because we have certainly had 4 years from hell, with many > > medical> > > >>>> problems, with three children diagnosed with autism in less > > than one> > > >>>> year, but we are happier than most people I know. We are > > broke, we> > > >>>> hate watching our children suffer, and we go through things > > that> > > >>>> most people- even some on this

list- could never imagine. > > That is> > > >>>> the reality- and that is what the film wanted the public > to> > > >>>> understand.> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >     > > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >    Let's be honest- life would be easier if our > kids > > didn't have> > > >>>> autism, don't you think?> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >     > >

> >>>> >> > > >>>> >    I'm sorry that you did not like what you saw in > the> > > >>>> documentary, and that you felt that the "drivel" was a > waste > > of your> > > >>>> time.  It was not a waste of mine. > > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >    Although it was hard to let the world into our > home > > to see> > > >>>> what some of our reality is like, I am proud and honored > > that we> > >

>>>> were part of the film.> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Â > > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â -Michele> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Â Â > > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Â > > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Message 8> > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â From: " Hooker" sploobnoober@> > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Date: Tue May 16, 2006

8:42am(PDT)> > > >>>> > Subject: Re: Documentary on Autism Stuns Internet Viewers> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> > OK - get ready to flame me!> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> > That video is the most pathetic waste of bandwidth I've > ever> > > >>>> seen. > > > >>>> > Rather than depicting how "pitiful" out situations are > (if > > one> > > >>>> > indeed chooses to see them as pitiful), it would be much > > more> > >

>>>> > helpful for those moms featured to talk about thimerosal, > > MMR,> > > >>>> DTaP> > > >>>> > and Proquad, AND the interventions that are indeed > working > > for> > > >>>> many> > > >>>> > children across the USA and abroad, to undo the > neurological> > > >>>> > consequences of this toxin and these vaccines...> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> > The drivel shown in the video may move folks to pity "our > > plight">

> > >>>> > but it also takes the emphasis off of answers, which is > in > > keeping> > > >>>> > of the commitment of Autism Speaks to bury the vaccine-> > autism> > > >>>> > issue. This is the type of message that their board > > members Andy> > > >>>> > Shih (former NAAR) and Marshalyn Yeargin-Allsop (CDC) > have > > done> > > >>>> for> > > >>>> > years.> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> > Outside of the

vaccine issue, I have to state, "Happiness > > is a> > > >>>> > choice," folks. If one chooses to see their situation as> > > >>>> miserable,> > > >>>> > hopeless and pathetic, it will be... Conversely, if we > > choose to> > > >>>> > embrace the mission that we have been given, there is a > lot > > more> > > >>>> joy> > > >>>> > in the journey...> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> > If the s want us all to be objects of pity, I pity

> > them> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >Â Â Â > > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >Â Â

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Correct but now we have an alarming ratio bof 1:166........10 years ago the if it has'nt affected me personally I don't have to pay attention to it syndrome was understandable....NOT ANYMORE with this current 1:166 ratio everyone is obliged to seriously contemplate the role they need to play in this game. Autism is the one issue, which because it crosses all races, genders, etnic creeds religions etc is in the best position to really turn humanity around. We all cannot afford not to heed this opportunity. Sooner than later it will touch every family if the current onslaught and tide isn't stemmed. Those in powerful positions need to provide sincere and honest leadership. We must steer this ship into port otherwise we'll all buckle under it's weight, financialy and socially and healthwise Take care n King <medfordkings1@...> wrote: I agree. How many parents do you know that were well educated about autism before they suspected their own child had it or recieved a diagnosis? I wasn't. Many times, it takes something that affects your daily life to light a fire under your ass and motivate you to do something about it.> > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}Â o\:* > > {behavior:url> > > >>>> (#default#VML);}Â w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}> Â .shape> > > >>>> {behavior:url(#default#VML);}Â Â Â Â Â Â Â st1\:*> > {behavior:url> > > >>>> (#default#ieooui) }Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â ,> > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â

That was just one opinion, remember that. > > You are never> > > >>>> going to be able to please everyone. I for one, am > extremely> > > >>>> grateful for this video. Even explaining to family > members > > and good> > > >>>> friends is difficult and I pointed all of them in the > > direction of> > > >>>> this film to show them the realities of my life. In no > way > > do I> > > >>>> want any of them to feel sorry for me. I need them to >

> understand> > > >>>> that I cannot always do what everyone else tries to include > > me to> > > >>>> do. My life does not have the same flexibilities > > of "normal" family> > > >>>> life. More and more people think Autism is just a mild > > issue that> > > >>>> just takes extra behavioral teaching and better > parenting. > > We all> > > >>>> know that is not the case. Thank you for taking the time > to> > > >>>> participate in this film and giving all of us

a place to > refer> > > >>>> people to when they do not understand the gravity of what > > Autism> > > >>>> presents. The biomedical treatments need to be > materialized > > in the> > > >>>> main stream but it is going to take many steps to get > > there. This> > > >>>> > was a BIG step! Thank you,  > > > >>>> >   > > > >>>> >      > > > >>>> > ---------------------------------> > >

>>>> >Â Â > > > >>>> >Â Â From: EOHarm > > [mailto:EOHarm ] On> > > >>>> Behalf Of michele iallonardi> > > >>>> > Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 2:45 PM> > > >>>> > EOHarm > > > >>>> > Subject: autism every day> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >Â Â Â > > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Hi-> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â I've been thinking how and if I should reply to

> > this email, as> > > >>>> I am not interested in arguing nor do I really have much > time > > to do> > > >>>> so anyway. But I kept thinking about it, which was taking > > up even> > > >>>> more time than responding- so... ...........> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >     > > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >    I am the mother of three children who have > > autism. 1 has been> > > >>>>

vaccinated, 2 have been partly vaccinated. I am very > > interested and> > > >>>> involved in biomedical interventions. They have been > > extremely > > > >>>> helpful (we have been doing them for over 2 years) but my > > son, as> > > >>>> you saw in the video, is far from recovered. My other 2 > > children,> > > >>>> who are recovering, have been through no biomedical > > interventions> > > >>>> other than changing their diets.> > > >>>> >> > >

>>>> >     > > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >    My point is this- when it comes to autism, > there > > is no one> > > >>>> answer for anything. Recovery is not only about biomedical> > > >>>> intervention- maybe for some children, but not for > > everyone. Autism> > > >>>> does have a genetic component (how do you explain 3 > brothers > > with> > > >>>> autism?). I do believe that thimersol is a huge part of > the

> > problem> > > >>>> (but not the only part)- my son with the most > vaccinations > > is the> > > >>>> most affected.  But, no, I don't think that all children > > can> > > >>>> recover biomedically. And yes, some children do recover > > without any> > > >>>> biomedical interventions at all.> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >     > > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >    My life is by no means

"pitiful." I wrote an > > article in TAP> > > >>>> (the autism perspective) magazine last year entitled " I > > Have> > > >>>> Three"- talking about just how wonderful my life is with > my> > > >>>> children. Funny, I actually got flack about that article > > from some> > > >>>> people (who have 1 child with autism, and were struggling > to > > deal> > > >>>> with that) saying that I was too positive (or delusional or > > crazy). > > >

>>>> I have written several articles since then about all of the> > > >>>> wonderful things parenting children with autism has brought > > into my> > > >>>> life. That being said, the reality is that life for my > boys > > is> > > >>>> difficult. Most people that I know don't realize that. > > Happiness> > > >>>> is a choice, yes, and we are happy. But being happy > doesn't > > mean> > > >>>> that it is easy for my son to sit through glutathione > shots,

> > eat> > > >>>> special food, or live in a world where he can't effectively> > > >>>> communicate. I'm happy, but I'm not happy about that. > He > > is> > > >>>> suffering- and I can never sit by and just be completely > > happy when> > > >>>> all that is> > > >>>> > going on. I'll never settle and accept it either. > To > > quote> > > >>>> another mom from the film- "I'm never going to say I > >

quit. It's> > > >>>> just not in my vocabulary."> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >     > > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >    To insinuate that I view my life as pitiful is > just > > a hurtful> > > >>>> statement that has no point. What I view as pitiful is > the > > time and> > > >>>> energy spent (or wasted) in our community criticizing each > > other. > > > >>>> My own life is an example of both genetic

and biomedical > > causes to> > > >>>> autism. My own life is an example of how happiness is a > > choice- > > > >>>> because we have certainly had 4 years from hell, with many > > medical> > > >>>> problems, with three children diagnosed with autism in less > > than one> > > >>>> year, but we are happier than most people I know. We are > > broke, we> > > >>>> hate watching our children suffer, and we go through things > > that> > > >>>> most people- even some on this

list- could never imagine. > > That is> > > >>>> the reality- and that is what the film wanted the public > to> > > >>>> understand.> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >     > > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >    Let's be honest- life would be easier if our > kids > > didn't have> > > >>>> autism, don't you think?> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >     > >

> >>>> >> > > >>>> >    I'm sorry that you did not like what you saw in > the> > > >>>> documentary, and that you felt that the "drivel" was a > waste > > of your> > > >>>> time.  It was not a waste of mine. > > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >    Although it was hard to let the world into our > home > > to see> > > >>>> what some of our reality is like, I am proud and honored > > that we> > >

>>>> were part of the film.> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Â > > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â -Michele> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Â Â > > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Â > > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Message 8> > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â From: " Hooker" sploobnoober@> > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Date: Tue May 16, 2006

8:42am(PDT)> > > >>>> > Subject: Re: Documentary on Autism Stuns Internet Viewers> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> > OK - get ready to flame me!> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> > That video is the most pathetic waste of bandwidth I've > ever> > > >>>> seen. > > > >>>> > Rather than depicting how "pitiful" out situations are > (if > > one> > > >>>> > indeed chooses to see them as pitiful), it would be much > > more> > >

>>>> > helpful for those moms featured to talk about thimerosal, > > MMR,> > > >>>> DTaP> > > >>>> > and Proquad, AND the interventions that are indeed > working > > for> > > >>>> many> > > >>>> > children across the USA and abroad, to undo the > neurological> > > >>>> > consequences of this toxin and these vaccines...> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> > The drivel shown in the video may move folks to pity "our > > plight">

> > >>>> > but it also takes the emphasis off of answers, which is > in > > keeping> > > >>>> > of the commitment of Autism Speaks to bury the vaccine-> > autism> > > >>>> > issue. This is the type of message that their board > > members Andy> > > >>>> > Shih (former NAAR) and Marshalyn Yeargin-Allsop (CDC) > have > > done> > > >>>> for> > > >>>> > years.> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> > Outside of the

vaccine issue, I have to state, "Happiness > > is a> > > >>>> > choice," folks. If one chooses to see their situation as> > > >>>> miserable,> > > >>>> > hopeless and pathetic, it will be... Conversely, if we > > choose to> > > >>>> > embrace the mission that we have been given, there is a > lot > > more> > > >>>> joy> > > >>>> > in the journey...> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> > If the s want us all to be objects of pity, I pity

> > them> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >Â Â Â > > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >Â Â

[Guest guest]

You got it exactly!! This is what I saying too. If it weren't for

the autism parents 32+ years ago, there would be no IDEA act. It

was autism parents, no other disability that created free and

appropriate education in the least restrictive environment for our

kids. That was way back before computers. We are a powerful group

who can change anything.

Sally Colletti

President CNY ASA

www.cynasa.org

it's basically give back time....... The information that's come

from so many others is benefitting 's kid. I don't care

what she said or didn't on the imus or any other show. It's not

helping the struggling folks. There is and will be plenty of

reseach on going with or without autism speaks etc.......

>

> Where was Bob wright before his grandson was hit by the autism

whammy. why wasn't he soliciting and campaigning vigourously then as

he is now As I've iterated before, they need to listen to

the 'simple ssmall guy folks not the know it alls who've been

responsible for creating special ed concepts self contained rooms

etc.... They are only perpetuating and entrenching the wedge between

our kids and those in mainstream.

> > > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}Â

> o\:*

> > > {behavior:url

> > > > >>>> (#default#VML);}Â w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}

> > Â .shape

> > > > >>>> {behavior:url(#default#VML);}Â Â Â Â Â Â Â st1\:*

> > > {behavior:url

> > > > >>>> (#default#ieooui) }Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â

> ,

> > > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â That was just one opinion, remember

> that.Â

> > > You are never

> > > > >>>> going to be able to please everyone. I for one, am

> > extremely

> > > > >>>> grateful for this video. Even explaining to family

> > members

> > > and good

> > > > >>>> friends is difficult and I pointed all of them in the

> > > direction of

> > > > >>>> this film to show them the realities of my life. In

no

> > way

> > > do I

> > > > >>>> want any of them to feel sorry for me. I need them to

> > > understand

> > > > >>>> that I cannot always do what everyone else tries to

> include

> > > me to

> > > > >>>> do. My life does not have the same flexibilities

> > > of " normal " family

> > > > >>>> life. More and more people think Autism is just a

mild

> > > issue that

> > > > >>>> just takes extra behavioral teaching and better

> > parenting.Â

> > > We all

> > > > >>>> know that is not the case. Thank you for taking the

> time

> > to

> > > > >>>> participate in this film and giving all of us a place

to

> > refer

> > > > >>>> people to when they do not understand the gravity of

what

> > > Autism

> > > > >>>> presents. The biomedical treatments need to be

> > materialized

> > > in the

> > > > >>>> main stream but it is going to take many steps to get

> > > there. This

> > > > >>>> > was a BIG step! Thank you, Â

> > > > >>>> >Â Â Â

> > > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Â Â

> > > > >>>> > ---------------------------------

> > > > >>>> >Â Â

> > > > >>>> >Â Â From: EOHarm

> > > [mailto:EOHarm ] On

> > > > >>>> Behalf Of michele iallonardi

> > > > >>>> > Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 2:45 PM

> > > > >>>> > EOHarm

> > > > >>>> > Subject: autism every day

> > > > >>>> >

> > > > >>>> >Â Â Â

> > > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Hi-

> > > > >>>> >

> > > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â I've been thinking how and if I should reply

to

> > > this email, as

> > > > >>>> I am not interested in arguing nor do I really have

much

> > time

> > > to do

> > > > >>>> so anyway. But I kept thinking about it, which was

> taking

> > > up even

> > > > >>>> more time than responding-Â so... ...........

> > > > >>>> >

> > > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Â

> > > > >>>> >

> > > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â I am the mother of three children who have

> > > autism. 1 has been

> > > > >>>> vaccinated, 2 have been partly vaccinated. I am very

> > > interested and

> > > > >>>> involved in biomedical interventions. They have been

> > > extremelyÂ

> > > > >>>> helpful (we have been doing them for over 2 years) but

my

> > > son, as

> > > > >>>> you saw in the video, is far from recovered. My other

2

> > > children,

> > > > >>>> who are recovering, have been through no biomedical

> > > interventions

> > > > >>>> other than changing their diets.

> > > > >>>> >

> > > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Â

> > > > >>>> >

> > > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â My point is this-Â when it comes to autism,

> > there

> > > is no one

> > > > >>>> answer for anything. Recovery is not only about

> biomedical

> > > > >>>> intervention- maybe for some children, but not for

> > > everyone. Autism

> > > > >>>> does have a genetic component (how do you explain 3

> > brothers

> > > with

> > > > >>>> autism?). I do believe that thimersol is a huge part

of

> > the

> > > problem

> > > > >>>> (but not the only part)-Â my son with the most

> > vaccinations

> > > is the

> > > > >>>> most affected.  But, no, I don't think that all

> children

> > > can

> > > > >>>> recover biomedically. And yes, some children do

recover

> > > without any

> > > > >>>> biomedical interventions at all.

> > > > >>>> >

> > > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Â

> > > > >>>> >

> > > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â My life is by no means " pitiful. " Â I wrote

an

> > > article in TAP

> > > > >>>> (the autism perspective)Â magazine last year

entitled "

> I

> > > Have

> > > > >>>> Three " -Â talking about just how wonderful my life is

> with

> > my

> > > > >>>> children. Funny, I actually got flack about that

> article

> > > from some

> > > > >>>> people (who have 1 child with autism, and were

struggling

> > to

> > > deal

> > > > >>>> with that) saying that I was too positive (or

delusional

> or

> > > crazy).Â

> > > > >>>> I have written several articles since then about all of

> the

> > > > >>>> wonderful things parenting children with autism has

> brought

> > > into my

> > > > >>>> life. That being said, the reality is that life for

my

> > boys

> > > is

> > > > >>>> difficult. Most people that I know don't realize

> that.Â

> > > Happiness

> > > > >>>> is a choice, yes, and we are happy. But being happy

> > doesn't

> > > mean

> > > > >>>> that it is easy for my son to sit through glutathione

> > shots,

> > > eat

> > > > >>>> special food, or live in a world where he can't

> effectively

> > > > >>>> communicate. I'm happy, but I'm not happy about

that.Â

> > He

> > > is

> > > > >>>> suffering-Â and I can never sit by and just be

> completely

> > > happy when

> > > > >>>> all that is

> > > > >>>> > going on. I'll never settle and accept it

either.Â

> > To

> > > quote

> > > > >>>> another mom from the film-Â " I'm never going to say I

> > > quit. It's

> > > > >>>> just not in my vocabulary. "

> > > > >>>> >

> > > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Â

> > > > >>>> >

> > > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â To insinuate that I view my life as pitiful

is

> > just

> > > a hurtful

> > > > >>>> statement that has no point. What I view as pitiful

is

> > the

> > > time and

> > > > >>>> energy spent (or wasted) in our community criticizing

> each

> > > other.Â

> > > > >>>> My own life is an example of both genetic and

biomedical

> > > causes to

> > > > >>>> autism. My own life is an example of how happiness is

a

> > > choice-Â

> > > > >>>> because we have certainly had 4 years from hell, with

> many

> > > medical

> > > > >>>> problems, with three children diagnosed with autism in

> less

> > > than one

> > > > >>>> year, but we are happier than most people I know. We

> are

> > > broke, we

> > > > >>>> hate watching our children suffer, and we go through

> things

> > > that

> > > > >>>> most people- even some on this list- could never

> imagine.Â

> > > That is

> > > > >>>> the reality-Â and that is what the film wanted the

> public

> > to

> > > > >>>> understand.

> > > > >>>> >

> > > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Â

> > > > >>>> >

> > > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Let's be honest-Â life would be easier if

our

> > kids

> > > didn't have

> > > > >>>> autism, don't you think?

> > > > >>>> >

> > > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Â

> > > > >>>> >

> > > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â I'm sorry that you did not like what you saw

in

> > the

> > > > >>>> documentary, and that you felt that the " drivel " was a

> > waste

> > > of your

> > > > >>>> time.  It was not a waste of mine.Â

> > > > >>>> >

> > > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Although it was hard to let the world into

our

> > home

> > > to see

> > > > >>>> what some of our reality is like, I am proud and

> honored

> > > that we

> > > > >>>> were part of the film.

> > > > >>>> >

> > > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Â

> > > > >>>> >

> > > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â -Michele

> > > > >>>> >

> > > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Â Â

> > > > >>>> >

> > > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Â

> > > > >>>> >

> > > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Message 8

> > > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â From: " Hooker " sploobnoober@

> > > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Date: Tue May 16, 2006 8:42am(PDT)

> > > > >>>> > Subject: Re: Documentary on Autism Stuns Internet

> Viewers

> > > > >>>> >

> > > > >>>> > OK - get ready to flame me!

> > > > >>>> >

> > > > >>>> > That video is the most pathetic waste of bandwidth

I've

> > ever

> > > > >>>> seen.Â

> > > > >>>> > Rather than depicting how " pitiful " out situations

are

> > (if

> > > one

> > > > >>>> > indeed chooses to see them as pitiful), it would be

> much

> > > more

> > > > >>>> > helpful for those moms featured to talk about

> thimerosal,

> > > MMR,

> > > > >>>> DTaP

> > > > >>>> > and Proquad, AND the interventions that are indeed

> > working

> > > for

> > > > >>>> many

> > > > >>>> > children across the USA and abroad, to undo the

> > neurological

> > > > >>>> > consequences of this toxin and these vaccines...

> > > > >>>> >

> > > > >>>> > The drivel shown in the video may move folks to

> pity " our

> > > plight "

> > > > >>>> > but it also takes the emphasis off of answers, which

is

> > in

> > > keeping

> > > > >>>> > of the commitment of Autism Speaks to bury the

vaccine-

> > > autism

> > > > >>>> > issue. This is the type of message that their board

> > > members Andy

> > > > >>>> > Shih (former NAAR) and Marshalyn Yeargin-Allsop (CDC)

> > have

> > > done

> > > > >>>> for

> > > > >>>> > years.

> > > > >>>> >

> > > > >>>> > Outside of the vaccine issue, I have to

> state, " Happiness

> > > is a

> > > > >>>> > choice, " folks. If one chooses to see their

situation

> as

> > > > >>>> miserable,

> > > > >>>> > hopeless and pathetic, it will be... Conversely, if

> we

> > > choose to

> > > > >>>> > embrace the mission that we have been given, there is

a

> > lot

> > > more

> > > > >>>> joy

> > > > >>>> > in the journey...

> > > > >>>> >

> > > > >>>> > If the s want us all to be objects of pity, I

> pity

> > > them

> > > > >>>> >

> > > > >>>> >Â Â Â

> > > > >>>> >

> > > > >>>> >

> > > > >>>> >Â Â

[Guest guest]

I beleive that Rumself was also CEO of Searle when they were getting approval for aspartame.

Re: Documentary on Autism Stuns Internet Viewers> > >>>> >> > >>>> > OK - get ready to flame me!> > >>>> >> > >>>> > That video is the most pathetic waste of bandwidth I've ever> > >>>> seen. > > >>>> > Rather than depicting how "pitiful" out situations are (if > one> > >>>> > indeed chooses to see them as pitiful), it would be much > more> > >>>> > helpful for those moms featured to talk about thimerosal, > MMR,> > >>>> DTaP> > >>>> > and Proquad, AND the interventions that are indeed working > for> > >>>> many> > >>>> > children across the USA and abroad, to undo the neurological> > >>>> > consequences of this toxin and these vaccines...> > >>>> >> > >>>> > The drivel shown in the video may move folks to pity "our > plight"> > >>>> > but it also takes the emphasis off of answers, which is in > keeping> > >>>> > of the commitment of Autism Speaks to bury the vaccine-> autism> > >>>> > issue. This is the type of message that their board > members Andy> > >>>> > Shih (former NAAR) and Marshalyn Yeargin-Allsop (CDC) have > done> > >>>> for> > >>>> > years.> > >>>> >> > >>>> > Outside of the vaccine issue, I have to state, "Happiness > is a> > >>>> > choice," folks. If one chooses to see their situation as> > >>>> miserable,> > >>>> > hopeless and pathetic, it will be... Conversely, if we > choose to> > >>>> > embrace the mission that we have been given, there is a lot > more> > >>>> joy> > >>>> > in the journey...> > >>>> >> > >>>> > If the s want us all to be objects of pity, I pity > them> > >>>> >> > >>>> >   > > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> > Â

[Guest guest]

Your right Henry. Aspartame couldn't be approved by the FDA (guess

they actually looked out for the well being of people at one point

in time). Aspartame was only approved via presidential order.

Thanks Reagan. Rummy what a scummy dude!

> > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â v\:* {behavior:url

(#default#VML);}Â o\:*

> > {behavior:url

> > > >>>> (#default#VML);}Â w\:* {behavior:url

(#default#VML);}

> Â .shape

> > > >>>> {behavior:url(#default#VML);}Â Â Â Â Â Â Â st1\:*

> > {behavior:url

> > > >>>> (#default#ieooui) }Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â

,

> > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â That was just one opinion,

remember that.Â

> > You are never

> > > >>>> going to be able to please everyone. I for one,

am

> extremely

> > > >>>> grateful for this video. Even explaining to

family

> members

> > and good

> > > >>>> friends is difficult and I pointed all of them in

the

> > direction of

> > > >>>> this film to show them the realities of my

life. In no

> way

> > do I

> > > >>>> want any of them to feel sorry for me. I need

them to

> > understand

> > > >>>> that I cannot always do what everyone else tries

to include

> > me to

> > > >>>> do. My life does not have the same

flexibilities

> > of " normal " family

> > > >>>> life. More and more people think Autism is just

a mild

> > issue that

> > > >>>> just takes extra behavioral teaching and better

> parenting.Â

> > We all

> > > >>>> know that is not the case. Thank you for taking

the time

> to

> > > >>>> participate in this film and giving all of us a

place to

> refer

> > > >>>> people to when they do not understand the gravity

of what

> > Autism

> > > >>>> presents. The biomedical treatments need to be

> materialized

> > in the

> > > >>>> main stream but it is going to take many steps to

get

> > there. This

> > > >>>> > was a BIG step! Thank you, Â

> > > >>>> >Â Â Â

> > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Â Â

> > > >>>> > ---------------------------------

> > > >>>> >Â Â

> > > >>>> >Â Â From: EOHarm

> > [mailto:EOHarm ] On

> > > >>>> Behalf Of michele iallonardi

> > > >>>> > Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 2:45 PM

> > > >>>> > EOHarm

> > > >>>> > Subject: autism every day

> > > >>>> >

> > > >>>> >Â Â Â

> > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Hi-

> > > >>>> >

> > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â I've been thinking how and if I should

reply to

> > this email, as

> > > >>>> I am not interested in arguing nor do I really

have much

> time

> > to do

> > > >>>> so anyway. But I kept thinking about it, which

was taking

> > up even

> > > >>>> more time than responding-Â so... ...........

> > > >>>> >

> > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Â

> > > >>>> >

> > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â I am the mother of three children who

have

> > autism. 1 has been

> > > >>>> vaccinated, 2 have been partly vaccinated. I am

very

> > interested and

> > > >>>> involved in biomedical interventions. They have

been

> > extremelyÂ

> > > >>>> helpful (we have been doing them for over 2

years) but my

> > son, as

> > > >>>> you saw in the video, is far from recovered. My

other 2

> > children,

> > > >>>> who are recovering, have been through no

biomedical

> > interventions

> > > >>>> other than changing their diets.

> > > >>>> >

> > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Â

> > > >>>> >

> > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â My point is this-Â when it comes to

autism,

> there

> > is no one

> > > >>>> answer for anything. Recovery is not only about

biomedical

> > > >>>> intervention- maybe for some children, but not

for

> > everyone. Autism

> > > >>>> does have a genetic component (how do you explain

3

> brothers

> > with

> > > >>>> autism?). I do believe that thimersol is a huge

part of

> the

> > problem

> > > >>>> (but not the only part)-Â my son with the most

> vaccinations

> > is the

> > > >>>> most affected.  But, no, I don't think that

all children

> > can

> > > >>>> recover biomedically. And yes, some children do

recover

> > without any

> > > >>>> biomedical interventions at all.

> > > >>>> >

> > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Â

> > > >>>> >

> > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â My life is by no means " pitiful. " Â I

wrote an

> > article in TAP

> > > >>>> (the autism perspective)Â magazine last year

entitled " I

> > Have

> > > >>>> Three " -Â talking about just how wonderful my

life is with

> my

> > > >>>> children. Funny, I actually got flack about

that article

> > from some

> > > >>>> people (who have 1 child with autism, and were

struggling

> to

> > deal

> > > >>>> with that) saying that I was too positive (or

delusional or

> > crazy).Â

> > > >>>> I have written several articles since then about

all of the

> > > >>>> wonderful things parenting children with autism

has brought

> > into my

> > > >>>> life. That being said, the reality is that life

for my

> boys

> > is

> > > >>>> difficult. Most people that I know don't

realize that.Â

> > Happiness

> > > >>>> is a choice, yes, and we are happy. But being

happy

> doesn't

> > mean

> > > >>>> that it is easy for my son to sit through

glutathione

> shots,

> > eat

> > > >>>> special food, or live in a world where he can't

effectively

> > > >>>> communicate. I'm happy, but I'm not happy about

that.Â

> He

> > is

> > > >>>> suffering-Â and I can never sit by and just be

completely

> > happy when

> > > >>>> all that is

> > > >>>> > going on. I'll never settle and accept it

either.Â

> To

> > quote

> > > >>>> another mom from the film-Â " I'm never going to

say I

> > quit. It's

> > > >>>> just not in my vocabulary. "

> > > >>>> >

> > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Â

> > > >>>> >

> > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â To insinuate that I view my life as

pitiful is

> just

> > a hurtful

> > > >>>> statement that has no point. What I view as

pitiful is

> the

> > time and

> > > >>>> energy spent (or wasted) in our community

criticizing each

> > other.Â

> > > >>>> My own life is an example of both genetic and

biomedical

> > causes to

> > > >>>> autism. My own life is an example of how

happiness is a

> > choice-Â

> > > >>>> because we have certainly had 4 years from hell,

with many

> > medical

> > > >>>> problems, with three children diagnosed with

autism in less

> > than one

> > > >>>> year, but we are happier than most people I

know. We are

> > broke, we

> > > >>>> hate watching our children suffer, and we go

through things

> > that

> > > >>>> most people- even some on this list- could never

imagine.Â

> > That is

> > > >>>> the reality-Â and that is what the film wanted

the public

> to

> > > >>>> understand.

> > > >>>> >

> > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Â

> > > >>>> >

> > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Let's be honest-Â life would be easier

if our

> kids

> > didn't have

> > > >>>> autism, don't you think?

> > > >>>> >

> > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Â

> > > >>>> >

> > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â I'm sorry that you did not like what

you saw in

> the

> > > >>>> documentary, and that you felt that the " drivel "

was a

> waste

> > of your

> > > >>>> time.  It was not a waste of mine.Â

> > > >>>> >

> > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Although it was hard to let the world

into our

> home

> > to see

> > > >>>> what some of our reality is like, I am proud

and honored

> > that we

> > > >>>> were part of the film.

> > > >>>> >

> > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Â

> > > >>>> >

> > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â -Michele

> > > >>>> >

> > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Â Â

> > > >>>> >

> > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Â

> > > >>>> >

> > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Message 8

> > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â From: " Hooker " sploobnoober@

> > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Date: Tue May 16, 2006 8:42am(PDT)

> > > >>>> > Subject: Re: Documentary on Autism Stuns

Internet Viewers

> > > >>>> >

> > > >>>> > OK - get ready to flame me!

> > > >>>> >

> > > >>>> > That video is the most pathetic waste of

bandwidth I've

> ever

> > > >>>> seen.Â

> > > >>>> > Rather than depicting how " pitiful " out

situations are

> (if

> > one

> > > >>>> > indeed chooses to see them as pitiful), it

would be much

> > more

> > > >>>> > helpful for those moms featured to talk about

thimerosal,

> > MMR,

> > > >>>> DTaP

> > > >>>> > and Proquad, AND the interventions that are

indeed

> working

> > for

> > > >>>> many

> > > >>>> > children across the USA and abroad, to undo the

> neurological

> > > >>>> > consequences of this toxin and these vaccines...

> > > >>>> >

> > > >>>> > The drivel shown in the video may move folks to

pity " our

> > plight "

> > > >>>> > but it also takes the emphasis off of answers,

which is

> in

> > keeping

> > > >>>> > of the commitment of Autism Speaks to bury the

vaccine-

> > autism

> > > >>>> > issue. This is the type of message that their

board

> > members Andy

> > > >>>> > Shih (former NAAR) and Marshalyn Yeargin-Allsop

(CDC)

> have

> > done

> > > >>>> for

> > > >>>> > years.

> > > >>>> >

> > > >>>> > Outside of the vaccine issue, I have to

state, " Happiness

> > is a

> > > >>>> > choice, " folks. If one chooses to see their

situation as

> > > >>>> miserable,

> > > >>>> > hopeless and pathetic, it will be...Â

Conversely, if we

> > choose to

> > > >>>> > embrace the mission that we have been given,

there is a

> lot

> > more

> > > >>>> joy

> > > >>>> > in the journey...

> > > >>>> >

> > > >>>> > If the s want us all to be objects of

pity, I pity

> > them

> > > >>>> >

> > > >>>> >Â Â Â

> > > >>>> >

> > > >>>> >

> > > >>>> >Â Â

[Guest guest]

Rumsfeld’s involvement in approval

of aspartame is infamous.  One can only imagine the synergistic and combined

effects

of the neurotoxin aspartame and the

neurotoxin thimerosal on our children   Millions of pregnant women consumed

aspartame in almost everything sugar free

 in the last couple of decades: 

obstetricians were telling them it was safe.    We have harmed our children in

many ways; aspartame and thimerosal are at the top of the list.  

For details on this subject,  and the ties

to PHARMA, see  http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/sepp/2004/05/07/aspartame_gate_when_donald_rumsfeld_was_ceo_of_searle.htm

  as well as doing a search on aspartame and Rumsfeld.   The Damage Done   it

is there.   Suzanne Messina   REAACH ,  MFVC:  Mercury Free Vaccine Coalition

of Massachusetts

From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of andrea52521991

Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 4:08 PM

EOHarm

Subject: Re: Autism every

day. Bob is wrong ! () Hildebrand is right!

Your right Henry.

Aspartame couldn't be approved by the FDA (guess

they actually looked out for the well being of people at one point

in time). Aspartame was only approved via presidential order.

Thanks Reagan. Rummy what a scummy dude!

> > > >>>>

>Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â v\:* {behavior:url

(#default#VML);}Â o\:*

> > {behavior:url

> > > >>>>

(#default#VML);}Â w\:* {behavior:url

(#default#VML);}

> Â .shape

> > > >>>>

{behavior:url(#default#VML);}Â Â Â Â Â Â Â st1\:*

> > {behavior:url

> > > >>>>

(#default#ieooui) }Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â

,

> > > >>>>

>Â Â Â Â Â Â Â That was just one opinion,

remember that.Â

> > You are never

> > > >>>>

going to be able to please everyone. I for one,

am

> extremely

> > > >>>>

grateful for this video. Even explaining to

family

> members

> > and good

> > > >>>>

friends is difficult and I pointed all of them in

the

> > direction of

> > > >>>>

this film to show them the realities of my

life. In no

> way

> > do I

> > > >>>>

want any of them to feel sorry for me. I need

them to

> > understand

> > > >>>>

that I cannot always do what everyone else tries

to include

> > me to

> > > >>>>

do. My life does not have the same

flexibilities

> > of " normal "

family

> > > >>>>

life. More and more people think Autism is just

a mild

> > issue that

> > > >>>>

just takes extra behavioral teaching and better

> parenting.Â

> > We all

> > > >>>>

know that is not the case. Thank you for taking

the time

> to

> > > >>>>

participate in this film and giving all of us a

place to

> refer

> > > >>>>

people to when they do not understand the gravity

of what

> > Autism

> > > >>>>

presents. The biomedical treatments need to be

> materialized

> > in the

> > > >>>>

main stream but it is going to take many steps to

get

> > there. This

> > > >>>>

> was a BIG step! Thank you, Â

> > > >>>>

>Â Â Â

> > > >>>>

>Â Â Â Â Â Â

> > > >>>>

> ---------------------------------

> > > >>>>

>Â Â

> > > >>>>

>Â Â From: EOHarm

> > [mailto:EOHarm ] On

> > > >>>>

Behalf Of michele iallonardi

> > > >>>>

> Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 2:45 PM

> > > >>>>

> EOHarm

> > > >>>>

> Subject: autism every day

> > > >>>>

>

> > > >>>>

>Â Â Â

> > > >>>>

>Â Â Â Â Hi-

> > > >>>>

>

> > > >>>>

>Â Â Â Â I've been thinking how and if I should

reply to

> > this email, as

> > > >>>>

I am not interested in arguing nor do I really

have much

> time

> > to do

> > > >>>>

so anyway. But I kept thinking about it, which

was taking

> > up even

> > > >>>>

more time than responding-Â so... ...........

> > > >>>>

>

> > > >>>>

>Â Â Â Â Â

> > > >>>>

>

> > > >>>>

>Â Â Â Â I am the mother of three children who

have

> > autism. 1 has

been

> > > >>>>

vaccinated, 2 have been partly vaccinated. I am

very

> > interested and

> > > >>>>

involved in biomedical interventions. They have

been

> > extremelyÂ

> > > >>>>

helpful (we have been doing them for over 2

years) but my

> > son, as

> > > >>>>

you saw in the video, is far from recovered. My

other 2

> > children,

> > > >>>>

who are recovering, have been through no

biomedical

> > interventions

> > > >>>>

other than changing their diets.

> > > >>>>

>

> > > >>>>

>Â Â Â Â Â

> > > >>>>

>

> > > >>>>

>Â Â Â Â My point is this-Â when it comes to

autism,

> there

> > is no one

> > > >>>>

answer for anything. Recovery is not only about

biomedical

> > > >>>>

intervention- maybe for some children, but not

for

> > everyone.Â

Autism

> > > >>>>

does have a genetic component (how do you explain

3

> brothers

> > with

> > > >>>>

autism?). I do believe that thimersol is a huge

part of

> the

> > problem

> > > >>>>

(but not the only part)-Â my son with the most

> vaccinations

> > is the

> > > >>>>

most affected.  But, no, I don't think that

all children

> > can

> > > >>>>

recover biomedically. And yes, some children do

recover

> > without any

> > > >>>>

biomedical interventions at all.

> > > >>>>

>

> > > >>>>

>Â Â Â Â Â

> > > >>>>

>

> > > >>>>

>Â Â Â Â My life is by no means " pitiful. " Â I

wrote an

> > article in TAP

> > > >>>>

(the autism perspective)Â magazine last year

entitled " I

> > Have

> > > >>>>

Three " -Â talking about just how wonderful my

life is with

> my

> > > >>>>

children. Funny, I actually got flack about

that article

> > from some

> > > >>>>

people (who have 1 child with autism, and were

struggling

> to

> > deal

> > > >>>>

with that) saying that I was too positive (or

delusional or

> > crazy).Â

> > > >>>>

I have written several articles since then about

all of the

> > > >>>>

wonderful things parenting children with autism

has brought

> > into my

> > > >>>>

life. That being said, the reality is that life

for my

> boys

> > is

> > > >>>>

difficult. Most people that I know don't

realize that.Â

> > Happiness

> > > >>>>

is a choice, yes, and we are happy. But being

happy

> doesn't

> > mean

> > > >>>>

that it is easy for my son to sit through

glutathione

> shots,

> > eat

> > > >>>>

special food, or live in a world where he can't

effectively

> > > >>>>

communicate. I'm happy, but I'm not happy about

that.Â

> He

> > is

> > > >>>>

suffering-Â and I can never sit by and just be

completely

> > happy when

> > > >>>>

all that is

> > > >>>>

> going on. I'll never settle and accept it

either.Â

> To

> > quote

> > > >>>>

another mom from the film-Â " I'm never going to

say I

> > quit. It's

> > > >>>>

just not in my vocabulary. "

> > > >>>>

>

> > > >>>>

>Â Â Â Â Â

> > > >>>>

>

> > > >>>>

>Â Â Â Â To insinuate that I view my life as

pitiful is

> just

> > a hurtful

> > > >>>>

statement that has no point. What I view as

pitiful is

> the

> > time and

> > > >>>>

energy spent (or wasted) in our community

criticizing each

> > other.Â

> > > >>>>

My own life is an example of both genetic and

biomedical

> > causes to

> > > >>>>

autism. My own life is an example of how

happiness is a

> > choice-Â

> > > >>>>

because we have certainly had 4 years from hell,

with many

> > medical

> > > >>>>

problems, with three children diagnosed with

autism in less

> > than one

> > > >>>>

year, but we are happier than most people I

know. We are

> > broke, we

> > > >>>>

hate watching our children suffer, and we go

through things

> > that

> > > >>>>

most people- even some on this list- could never

imagine.Â

> > That is

> > > >>>>

the reality-Â and that is what the film wanted

the public

> to

> > > >>>>

understand.

> > > >>>>

>

> > > >>>>

>Â Â Â Â Â

> > > >>>>

>

> > > >>>>

>Â Â Â Â Let's be honest-Â life would be easier

if our

> kids

> > didn't have

> > > >>>>

autism, don't you think?

> > > >>>>

>

> > > >>>>

>Â Â Â Â Â

> > > >>>>

>

> > > >>>>

>Â Â Â Â I'm sorry that you did not like what

you saw in

> the

> > > >>>>

documentary, and that you felt that the " drivel "

was a

> waste

> > of your

> > > >>>>

time.  It was not a waste of mine.Â

> > > >>>>

>

> > > >>>>

>Â Â Â Â Although it was hard to let the world

into our

> home

> > to see

> > > >>>>

what some of our reality is like, I am proud

and honored

> > that we

> > > >>>>

were part of the film.

> > > >>>>

>

> > > >>>>

>Â Â Â Â Â

> > > >>>>

>

> > > >>>>

>Â Â Â Â -Michele

> > > >>>>

>

> > > >>>>

>Â Â Â Â Â Â

> > > >>>>

>

> > > >>>>

>Â Â Â Â Â

> > > >>>>

>

> > > >>>>

>Â Â Â Â Message 8

> > > >>>>

>Â Â Â Â From: " Hooker " sploobnoober@

> > > >>>>

>Â Â Â Â Date: Tue May 16, 2006 8:42am(PDT)

> > > >>>>

> Subject: Re: Documentary on Autism Stuns

Internet Viewers

> > > >>>>

>

> > > >>>>

> OK - get ready to flame me!

> > > >>>>

>

> > > >>>>

> That video is the most pathetic waste of

bandwidth I've

> ever

> > > >>>>

seen.Â

> > > >>>>

> Rather than depicting how " pitiful " out

situations are

> (if

> > one

> > > >>>>

> indeed chooses to see them as pitiful), it

would be much

> > more

> > > >>>>

> helpful for those moms featured to talk about

thimerosal,

> > MMR,

> > > >>>>

DTaP

> > > >>>>

> and Proquad, AND the interventions that are

indeed

> working

> > for

> > > >>>>

many

> > > >>>>

> children across the USA

and abroad, to undo the

> neurological

> > > >>>>

> consequences of this toxin and these vaccines...

> > > >>>>

>

> > > >>>>

> The drivel shown in the video may move folks to

pity " our

> > plight "

> > > >>>>

> but it also takes the emphasis off of answers,

which is

> in

> > keeping

> > > >>>>

> of the commitment of Autism Speaks to bury the

vaccine-

> > autism

> > > >>>>

> issue. This is the type of message that their

board

> > members Andy

> > > >>>>

> Shih (former NAAR) and Marshalyn Yeargin-Allsop

(CDC)

> have

> > done

> > > >>>>

for

> > > >>>>

> years.

> > > >>>>

>

> > > >>>>

> Outside of the vaccine issue, I have to

state, " Happiness

> > is a

> > > >>>>

> choice, " folks. If one chooses to see their

situation as

> > > >>>>

miserable,

> > > >>>>

> hopeless and pathetic, it will be...Â

Conversely, if we

> > choose to

> > > >>>>

> embrace the mission that we have been given,

there is a

> lot

> > more

> > > >>>>

joy

> > > >>>>

> in the journey...

> > > >>>>

>

> > > >>>>

> If the s want us all to be objects of

pity, I pity

> > them

> > > >>>>

>

> > > >>>>

>Â Â Â

> > > >>>>

>

> > > >>>>

>

> > > >>>>

>Â Â

[Guest guest]

Ironically, aspartame helped GDSearle avoid going under. It rescued them from financial ruin at the time Take care nandrea52521991 <mkeller@...> wrote: Your right Henry. Aspartame couldn't be approved by the FDA (guess they actually looked out for the well being of people at one point in time). Aspartame was only approved via presidential order.Thanks Reagan. Rummy what a scummy dude!> > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}Â o\:* > > {behavior:url> > > >>>> (#default#VML);}Â w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}> Â .shape> > > >>>> {behavior:url(#default#VML);}Â Â Â Â Â Â Â st1\:*> > {behavior:url> > > >>>> (#default#ieooui) }Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â ,> > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Â Â Â That was just one opinion, remember that.Â

> > You are never> > > >>>> going to be able to please everyone. I for one, am > extremely> > > >>>> grateful for this video. Even explaining to family > members > > and good> > > >>>> friends is difficult and I pointed all of them in the > > direction of> > > >>>> this film to show them the realities of my life. In no

> way > > do I> > > >>>> want any of them to feel sorry for me. I need them to > > understand> > > >>>> that I cannot always do what everyone else tries to include > > me to> > > >>>> do. My life does not have the same flexibilities > > of "normal" family> > > >>>> life. More and more people think Autism is just a mild

> > issue that> > > >>>> just takes extra behavioral teaching and better > parenting. > > We all> > > >>>> know that is not the case. Thank you for taking the time > to> > > >>>> participate in this film and giving all of us a place to > refer> > > >>>> people to when they do not understand the gravity of what > >

Autism> > > >>>> presents. The biomedical treatments need to be > materialized > > in the> > > >>>> main stream but it is going to take many steps to get > > there. This> > > >>>> > was a BIG step! Thank you,  > > > >>>> >   > > > >>>> >      > > > >>>> >

---------------------------------> > > >>>> >Â Â > > > >>>> >Â Â From: EOHarm > > [mailto:EOHarm ] On> > > >>>> Behalf Of michele iallonardi> > > >>>> > Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 2:45 PM> > > >>>> > EOHarm > > > >>>> > Subject: autism every day> > > >>>> >> > >

>>>> >   > > > >>>> >    Hi-> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >    I've been thinking how and if I should reply to > > this email, as> > > >>>> I am not interested in arguing nor do I really have much > time > > to do> > > >>>> so anyway. But I kept thinking about it, which was taking > > up

even> > > >>>> more time than responding- so... ...........> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >     > > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >    I am the mother of three children who have > > autism. 1 has been> > > >>>> vaccinated, 2 have been partly vaccinated. I am very > > interested and> > > >>>> involved in biomedical

interventions. They have been > > extremely > > > >>>> helpful (we have been doing them for over 2 years) but my > > son, as> > > >>>> you saw in the video, is far from recovered. My other 2 > > children,> > > >>>> who are recovering, have been through no biomedical > > interventions> > > >>>> other than changing their diets.> > > >>>>

>> > > >>>> >     > > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >    My point is this- when it comes to autism, > there > > is no one> > > >>>> answer for anything. Recovery is not only about biomedical> > > >>>> intervention- maybe for some children, but not for > > everyone. Autism> > > >>>> does have a genetic component (how do you

explain 3 > brothers > > with> > > >>>> autism?). I do believe that thimersol is a huge part of > the > > problem> > > >>>> (but not the only part)- my son with the most > vaccinations > > is the> > > >>>> most affected.  But, no, I don't think that all children > > can> > >

>>>> recover biomedically. And yes, some children do recover > > without any> > > >>>> biomedical interventions at all.> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >     > > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >    My life is by no means "pitiful." I wrote an > > article in TAP> > > >>>> (the autism perspective) magazine last year entitled " I

> > Have> > > >>>> Three"- talking about just how wonderful my life is with > my> > > >>>> children. Funny, I actually got flack about that article > > from some> > > >>>> people (who have 1 child with autism, and were struggling > to > > deal> > > >>>> with that) saying that I was too positive (or delusional or > >

crazy). > > > >>>> I have written several articles since then about all of the> > > >>>> wonderful things parenting children with autism has brought > > into my> > > >>>> life. That being said, the reality is that life for my > boys > > is> > > >>>> difficult. Most people that I know don't realize that. > > Happiness> > > >>>> is a choice, yes, and we

are happy. But being happy > doesn't > > mean> > > >>>> that it is easy for my son to sit through glutathione > shots, > > eat> > > >>>> special food, or live in a world where he can't effectively> > > >>>> communicate. I'm happy, but I'm not happy about that. > He > > is> > > >>>> suffering- and I can never

sit by and just be completely > > happy when> > > >>>> all that is> > > >>>> > going on. I'll never settle and accept it either. > To > > quote> > > >>>> another mom from the film- "I'm never going to say I > > quit. It's> > > >>>> just not in my vocabulary."> > > >>>> >> > >

>>>> >     > > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >    To insinuate that I view my life as pitiful is > just > > a hurtful> > > >>>> statement that has no point. What I view as pitiful is > the > > time and> > > >>>> energy spent (or wasted) in our community criticizing each > > other. > > > >>>>

My own life is an example of both genetic and biomedical > > causes to> > > >>>> autism. My own life is an example of how happiness is a > > choice- > > > >>>> because we have certainly had 4 years from hell, with many > > medical> > > >>>> problems, with three children diagnosed with autism in less > > than one> > > >>>> year, but we are happier than most people I know. We are

> > broke, we> > > >>>> hate watching our children suffer, and we go through things > > that> > > >>>> most people- even some on this list- could never imagine. > > That is> > > >>>> the reality- and that is what the film wanted the public > to> > > >>>> understand.> > > >>>> >> > > >>>>

>Â Â Â Â Â > > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Let's be honest-Â life would be easier if our > kids > > didn't have> > > >>>> autism, don't you think?> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Â > > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â I'm sorry that you did not like what you saw in >

the> > > >>>> documentary, and that you felt that the "drivel" was a > waste > > of your> > > >>>> time.  It was not a waste of mine. > > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >    Although it was hard to let the world into our > home > > to see> > > >>>> what some of our reality is like, I am proud and honored >

> that we> > > >>>> were part of the film.> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Â > > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â -Michele> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Â Â > > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Â > > > >>>>

>> > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Message 8> > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â From: " Hooker" sploobnoober@> > > >>>> >Â Â Â Â Date: Tue May 16, 2006 8:42am(PDT)> > > >>>> > Subject: Re: Documentary on Autism Stuns Internet Viewers> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> > OK - get ready to flame me!> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> > That video is the most pathetic waste of bandwidth I've

> ever> > > >>>> seen. > > > >>>> > Rather than depicting how "pitiful" out situations are > (if > > one> > > >>>> > indeed chooses to see them as pitiful), it would be much > > more> > > >>>> > helpful for those moms featured to talk about thimerosal, > > MMR,> > > >>>>

DTaP> > > >>>> > and Proquad, AND the interventions that are indeed > working > > for> > > >>>> many> > > >>>> > children across the USA and abroad, to undo the > neurological> > > >>>> > consequences of this toxin and these vaccines...> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> > The drivel shown in the video may move folks to pity "our

> > plight"> > > >>>> > but it also takes the emphasis off of answers, which is > in > > keeping> > > >>>> > of the commitment of Autism Speaks to bury the vaccine-> > autism> > > >>>> > issue. This is the type of message that their board > > members Andy> > > >>>> > Shih (former NAAR) and Marshalyn Yeargin-Allsop (CDC)

> have > > done> > > >>>> for> > > >>>> > years.> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> > Outside of the vaccine issue, I have to state, "Happiness > > is a> > > >>>> > choice," folks. If one chooses to see their situation as> > > >>>> miserable,> > > >>>> > hopeless and pathetic, it will

be... Conversely, if we > > choose to> > > >>>> > embrace the mission that we have been given, there is a > lot > > more> > > >>>> joy> > > >>>> > in the journey...> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> > If the s want us all to be objects of pity, I pity > > them> > > >>>>

>> > > >>>> >Â Â Â > > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >Â Â

[Guest guest]

Rumsfeld’s involvement in approval

of aspartame is infamous. One can only imagine the synergistic and

combined effects

of the neurotoxin aspartame and the

neurotoxin thimerosal on our children Millions of pregnant women

consumed aspartame in almost everything sugar free

in the last couple of decades:

obstetricians were telling them it was safe. We have harmed

our children in many ways; aspartame and thimerosal are at the top of the

list.

For details on this subject, and the

ties to PHARMA, see http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/sepp/2004/05/07/aspartame_gate_when_donald_rumsfeld_was_ceo_of_searle.htm

as well as doing a search on aspartame and Rumsfeld. The Damage Done

it is there. Suzanne Messina REAACH , MFVC:

Mercury Free Vaccine Coalition of Massachusetts

From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of andrea52521991

Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 4:08 PM

EOHarm

Subject: Re: Autism every

day. Bob is wrong ! () Hildebrand is right!

Your right Henry.

Aspartame couldn't be approved by the FDA (guess

they actually looked out for the well being of people at one point

in time). Aspartame was only approved via presidential order.

Thanks Reagan. Rummy what a scummy dude!

> > > >>>>

>Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â v\:* {behavior:url

(#default#VML);}Â o\:*

> > {behavior:url

> > > >>>>

(#default#VML);}Â w\:* {behavior:url

(#default#VML);}

> Â .shape

> > > >>>>

{behavior:url(#default#VML);}Â Â Â Â Â Â Â st1\:*

> > {behavior:url

> > > >>>>

(#default#ieooui) }Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â

,

> > > >>>>

>Â Â Â Â Â Â Â That was just one opinion,

remember that.Â

> > You are never

> > > >>>>

going to be able to please everyone. I for one,

am

> extremely

> > > >>>>

grateful for this video. Even explaining to

family

> members

> > and good

> > > >>>>

friends is difficult and I pointed all of them in

the

> > direction of

> > > >>>>

this film to show them the realities of my

life. In no

> way

> > do I

> > > >>>>

want any of them to feel sorry for me. I need

them to

> > understand

> > > >>>>

that I cannot always do what everyone else tries

to include

> > me to

> > > >>>>

do. My life does not have the same

flexibilities

> > of " normal "

family

> > > >>>>

life. More and more people think Autism is just

a mild

> > issue that

> > > >>>>

just takes extra behavioral teaching and better

> parenting.Â

> > We all

> > > >>>>

know that is not the case. Thank you for taking

the time

> to

> > > >>>>

participate in this film and giving all of us a

place to

> refer

> > > >>>>

people to when they do not understand the gravity

of what

> > Autism

> > > >>>>

presents. The biomedical treatments need to be

> materialized

> > in the

> > > >>>>

main stream but it is going to take many steps to

get

> > there. This

> > > >>>>

> was a BIG step! Thank you, Â

> > > >>>>

>Â Â Â

> > > >>>>

>Â Â Â Â Â Â

> > > >>>>

> ---------------------------------

> > > >>>>

>Â Â

> > > >>>>

>Â Â From: EOHarm

> > [mailto:EOHarm ] On

> > > >>>>

Behalf Of michele iallonardi

> > > >>>>

> Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 2:45 PM

> > > >>>>

> EOHarm

> > > >>>>

> Subject: autism every day

> > > >>>>

>

> > > >>>>

>Â Â Â

> > > >>>>

>Â Â Â Â Hi-

> > > >>>>

>

> > > >>>>

>Â Â Â Â I've been thinking how and if I should

reply to

> > this email, as

> > > >>>>

I am not interested in arguing nor do I really

have much

> time

> > to do

> > > >>>>

so anyway. But I kept thinking about it, which

was taking

> > up even

> > > >>>>

more time than responding-Â so... ...........

> > > >>>>

>

> > > >>>>

>Â Â Â Â Â

> > > >>>>

>

> > > >>>>

>Â Â Â Â I am the mother of three children who

have

> > autism. 1 has

been

> > > >>>>

vaccinated, 2 have been partly vaccinated. I am

very

> > interested and

> > > >>>>

involved in biomedical interventions. They have

been

> > extremelyÂ

> > > >>>>

helpful (we have been doing them for over 2

years) but my

> > son, as

> > > >>>>

you saw in the video, is far from recovered. My

other 2

> > children,

> > > >>>>

who are recovering, have been through no

biomedical

> > interventions

> > > >>>>

other than changing their diets.

> > > >>>>

>

> > > >>>>

>Â Â Â Â Â

> > > >>>>

>

> > > >>>>

>Â Â Â Â My point is this-Â when it comes to

autism,

> there

> > is no one

> > > >>>>

answer for anything. Recovery is not only about

biomedical

> > > >>>>

intervention- maybe for some children, but not

for

> > everyone.Â

Autism

> > > >>>>

does have a genetic component (how do you explain

3

> brothers

> > with

> > > >>>>

autism?). I do believe that thimersol is a huge

part of

> the

> > problem

> > > >>>>

(but not the only part)-Â my son with the most

> vaccinations

> > is the

> > > >>>>

most affected.  But, no, I don't think that

all children

> > can

> > > >>>>

recover biomedically. And yes, some children do

recover

> > without any

> > > >>>>

biomedical interventions at all.

> > > >>>>

>

> > > >>>>

>Â Â Â Â Â

> > > >>>>

>

> > > >>>>

>Â Â Â Â My life is by no means " pitiful. " Â I

wrote an

> > article in TAP

> > > >>>>

(the autism perspective)Â magazine last year

entitled " I

> > Have

> > > >>>>

Three " -Â talking about just how wonderful my

life is with

> my

> > > >>>>

children. Funny, I actually got flack about

that article

> > from some

> > > >>>>

people (who have 1 child with autism, and were

struggling

> to

> > deal

> > > >>>>

with that) saying that I was too positive (or

delusional or

> > crazy).Â

> > > >>>>

I have written several articles since then about

all of the

> > > >>>>

wonderful things parenting children with autism

has brought

> > into my

> > > >>>>

life. That being said, the reality is that life

for my

> boys

> > is

> > > >>>>

difficult. Most people that I know don't

realize that.Â

> > Happiness

> > > >>>>

is a choice, yes, and we are happy. But being

happy

> doesn't

> > mean

> > > >>>>

that it is easy for my son to sit through

glutathione

> shots,

> > eat

> > > >>>>

special food, or live in a world where he can't

effectively

> > > >>>>

communicate. I'm happy, but I'm not happy about

that.Â

> He

> > is

> > > >>>>

suffering-Â and I can never sit by and just be

completely

> > happy when

> > > >>>>

all that is

> > > >>>>

> going on. I'll never settle and accept it

either.Â

> To

> > quote

> > > >>>>

another mom from the film-Â " I'm never going to

say I

> > quit. It's

> > > >>>>

just not in my vocabulary. "

> > > >>>>

>

> > > >>>>

>Â Â Â Â Â

> > > >>>>

>

> > > >>>>

>Â Â Â Â To insinuate that I view my life as

pitiful is

> just

> > a hurtful

> > > >>>>

statement that has no point. What I view as

pitiful is

> the

> > time and

> > > >>>>

energy spent (or wasted) in our community

criticizing each

> > other.Â

> > > >>>>

My own life is an example of both genetic and

biomedical

> > causes to

> > > >>>>

autism. My own life is an example of how

happiness is a

> > choice-Â

> > > >>>>

because we have certainly had 4 years from hell,

with many

> > medical

> > > >>>>

problems, with three children diagnosed with

autism in less

> > than one

> > > >>>>

year, but we are happier than most people I

know. We are

> > broke, we

> > > >>>>

hate watching our children suffer, and we go

through things

> > that

> > > >>>>

most people- even some on this list- could never

imagine.Â

> > That is

> > > >>>>

the reality-Â and that is what the film wanted

the public

> to

> > > >>>>

understand.

> > > >>>>

>

> > > >>>>

>Â Â Â Â Â

> > > >>>>

>

> > > >>>>

>Â Â Â Â Let's be honest-Â life would be easier

if our

> kids

> > didn't have

> > > >>>>

autism, don't you think?

> > > >>>>

>

> > > >>>>

>Â Â Â Â Â

> > > >>>>

>

> > > >>>>

>Â Â Â Â I'm sorry that you did not like what

you saw in

> the

> > > >>>>

documentary, and that you felt that the " drivel "

was a

> waste

> > of your

> > > >>>>

time.  It was not a waste of mine.Â

> > > >>>>

>

> > > >>>>

>Â Â Â Â Although it was hard to let the world

into our

> home

> > to see

> > > >>>>

what some of our reality is like, I am proud

and honored

> > that we

> > > >>>>

were part of the film.

> > > >>>>

>

> > > >>>>

>Â Â Â Â Â

> > > >>>>

>

> > > >>>>

>Â Â Â Â -Michele

> > > >>>>

>

> > > >>>>

>Â Â Â Â Â Â

> > > >>>>

>

> > > >>>>

>Â Â Â Â Â

> > > >>>>

>

> > > >>>>

>Â Â Â Â Message 8

> > > >>>>

>Â Â Â Â From: " Hooker " sploobnoober@

> > > >>>>

>Â Â Â Â Date: Tue May 16, 2006 8:42am(PDT)

> > > >>>>

> Subject: Re: Documentary on Autism Stuns

Internet Viewers

> > > >>>>

>

> > > >>>>

> OK - get ready to flame me!

> > > >>>>

>

> > > >>>>

> That video is the most pathetic waste of

bandwidth I've

> ever

> > > >>>>

seen.Â

> > > >>>>

> Rather than depicting how " pitiful " out

situations are

> (if

> > one

> > > >>>>

> indeed chooses to see them as pitiful), it

would be much

> > more

> > > >>>>

> helpful for those moms featured to talk about

thimerosal,

> > MMR,

> > > >>>>

DTaP

> > > >>>>

> and Proquad, AND the interventions that are

indeed

> working

> > for

> > > >>>>

many

> > > >>>>

> children across the USA

and abroad, to undo the

> neurological

> > > >>>>

> consequences of this toxin and these vaccines...

> > > >>>>

>

> > > >>>>

> The drivel shown in the video may move folks to

pity " our

> > plight "

> > > >>>>

> but it also takes the emphasis off of answers,

which is

> in

> > keeping

> > > >>>>

> of the commitment of Autism Speaks to bury the

vaccine-

> > autism

> > > >>>>

> issue. This is the type of message that their

board

> > members Andy

> > > >>>>

> Shih (former NAAR) and Marshalyn Yeargin-Allsop

(CDC)

> have

> > done

> > > >>>>

for

> > > >>>>

> years.

> > > >>>>

>

> > > >>>>

> Outside of the vaccine issue, I have to

state, " Happiness

> > is a

> > > >>>>

> choice, " folks. If one chooses to see their

situation as

> > > >>>>

miserable,

> > > >>>>

> hopeless and pathetic, it will be...Â

Conversely, if we

> > choose to

> > > >>>>

> embrace the mission that we have been given,

there is a

> lot

> > more

> > > >>>>

joy

> > > >>>>

> in the journey...

> > > >>>>

>

> > > >>>>

> If the s want us all to be objects of

pity, I pity

> > them

> > > >>>>

>

> > > >>>>

>Â Â Â

> > > >>>>

>

> > > >>>>

>

> > > >>>>

>Â Â

[Guest guest]

He was the same place I was before my daughter was hit by autism. The

same place virtually all of us were. None of us listened because none

of us were affected.

Debi

> > Where was Bob wright before his grandson was hit by the autism

> whammy. why wasn't he soliciting and campaigning vigourously then as

> he is now

[Guest guest]

That may be true in many cases, but it just underscores my point that it MUST change immediately. This is becoming a global pandemic and we'll all collapse under its onerous burden if we continue exhibiting the typical human nature trait which you cite. Take care nDebi <fightingautism@...> wrote: He was the same place I was before my daughter was hit by autism. Thesame place virtually all of us were. None of us listened because noneof us were affected.Debi > > Where was Bob wright before his grandson was hit by the autism > whammy. why wasn't he soliciting and campaigning vigourously then as > he is now

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[Guest guest]

I know someone who recently moved out of the D.C. area to the field in Mexico. This somebody told us that through a unsuspicious contact the legit autism rates had dropped a lot farther than even we think. The rates had dropped from 1 in 166 to what the unsuspecting leaker said are now at 1 in 500.

Re: Re: Autism every day. Bob is wrong ! () Hildebrand is right!

Correct but now we have an alarming ratio bof 1:166

[Guest guest]

Not the case with me.

In the grocery store days - somewhere around 1995 - there was one autistic young man I'd say around eighteen years old who came shopping with his mom a lot. He used to play a game with me where out of the corner of my eye I'd catch him spying on me from the end of the aisle. When I'd turn and glance he'd shoot off to another aisle. After a minute or so his head would poke out from around the endcap at the opposite end of the aisle. He was a bashful one. He was always hefty, very cheerful looking, but always quiet. After a couple of greetings I figured out that he didn't talk, but I always gave him a wink and said hey to him when he was within earshot. He seemed to say a lot with his eyes.

In sixteen years, from 1983 to 1999 he was the only person I'd consider to be ranged as ASD, and for most of the time our customer counts were around fourteen thousand sales a week.

After I retired from the grocery store and got a new job I'd see the young man on the street corner by his house. I guess he enjoyed watching the traffic go by. He stood there watching cars and doing his fingers.

Just a year or so before I retired our store hired a young special needs kid through a cooperative project with the state. With what I know now he was autistic, but severely doped up. His assister just called him slow. I asked her if there was anything special I should know and she rolled her eyes, said no and walked away. Most of us noticed that he did a good job bagging groceries and fitting in pretty well, but his nerves would frazzle during the shift. Some of the cashiers and baggers expressed how strange this was, but nobody really reacted unkindly. For example, one time I passed by the front end and one of the girls snagged me because the boy was off in a corner on an empty register talking to himself. His assister had bailed out after a few days of monitoring him and he was on his own.

After delicately approaching him and called his name a couple of times I noticed that he was quietly echoing me. I suppose he realized I was there. I asked if he was feeling OK and said that he looked like he was getting tired out. I asked him if he would like to take a break and sit for a while, and he asked to go home. I let the store manager know what was going on. I wasn't sure if I needed to call his parents or he was able to, but I do remember being thanked by his mom.

The point is autism from my perspective was very rare. I spent sixteen years in a very public place. Day in and day out serving a community of tens of thousands of people. I saw lots of eyes, faces, mannerisms, habits, etc. When you see enough people you get to a point where you do pick up on things. Autism just wasn't there.

In 2003, right about six months after our son was diagnosed as severely autistic, Kerry and her mom were standing in the check out line of another store. Her mom was unloading her groceries onto the turntable. The cashier was a gal who was in the process of telling Kerry she had a daughter on the spectrum. Just then a woman behind Kerry in another check out line called her name. Kerry turned around to see it was a new friend that she had met at a ASD group. She had a son with autism. It struck her because she had just spoken to a gal in the bakery who had a sister with an autistic child.

One of Kerry's dearest friends had a birthday pool party for her ASD daughter and invited our boy. I sat some and stood some watching the kids, and keeping an eye on them. (long ago, I got the life-saving merit badge at Scout camp) There they all were, probably twelve or fifteen ASD boys and girls in and out of what I thought to sarcastically call the "gene" pool. It was really interesting to observe them all. As I looked at them, I thought there is just no way on earth that genes have anything to do with this.

Re: Autism every day. Bob is wrong ! () Hildebrand is right!

He was the same place I was before my daughter was hit by autism. Thesame place virtually all of us were. None of us listened because noneof us were affected.Debi > > Where was Bob wright before his grandson was hit by the autism > whammy. why wasn't he soliciting and campaigning vigourously then as > he is now