Re: CBS News Autism Series

[Guest guest]

unless I heard wrong-I didn't think they described it as regressive behavior at all. quite the opposite-like the almost gave the impression he always had it from early on.kerbob1 <robertbloch@...> wrote: Saw the first segment and is was OK. Had a stupid thunderstorm warning at the top of the screen though.Series started by distancing the world of Autism away from the basketball punk stating something like the world of autism is much more than one child. They will be featuring three children this week. Today was the most severe kid, who they more or less described as regressively autistic. Generally OK to a point in growth, but stopped listening to people. No interaction with parents, etc. Saw no real severe behaviors or stims, etc. Quiet little guy.Both parents had a conspicuous blue

lapel pin on. Kind of a hint.The reporter made one funny. The parents wanted to show his music therapy. There was a cut to a therapist pounding on a piano. I guess she sort of had a non-singing singing voice, too. They showed the little guy run away from the piano. (I would, too) There was another cut to the therapist chasing the little guy around the room while strumming on a guitar. The reporter's VO said something like "music therapy where they basically chase you around with musical instruments, though it might not be doing any good" as they cut to the little guy folding his ears over to block the noise or maybe him sticking his fingers in his ears. He was so cute. We about choked laughing at him trying to plug his ears.We'll see what tomorrow brings.

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[Guest guest]

Overall I anticipate it going to be pretty lame.

Did you hear Bob Schieffer say that there are lot's of theories as

to why autism is ten times more common today then it was twenty

years ago? But..... their not going to get into that....

Great. What are you going to get into?

Another fluff piece with shoulder shrugging experts mystified as to

why all these kids are autistic. Stressed out, confused parents and

no mention of causation.

Is it still sweeps week?

I think they should do a story on autistic immigrants who are

struggling to pay the prices at the pump. Anyone else?

>

> Saw the first segment and is was OK. Had a stupid thunderstorm

> warning at the top of the screen though.

>

> Series started by distancing the world of Autism away from the

> basketball punk stating something like the world of autism is much

> more than one child.

>

> They will be featuring three children this week. Today was the

most

> severe kid, who they more or less described as regressively

autistic.

> Generally OK to a point in growth, but stopped listening to

people.

> No interaction with parents, etc. Saw no real severe behaviors or

> stims, etc. Quiet little guy.

>

> Both parents had a conspicuous blue lapel pin on. Kind of a hint.

>

> The reporter made one funny. The parents wanted to show his music

> therapy. There was a cut to a therapist pounding on a piano. I

guess

> she sort of had a non-singing singing voice, too. They showed the

> little guy run away from the piano. (I would, too) There was

another

> cut to the therapist chasing the little guy around the room while

> strumming on a guitar. The reporter's VO said something

like " music

> therapy where they basically chase you around with musical

> instruments, though it might not be doing any good " as they cut to

> the little guy folding his ears over to block the noise or maybe

him

> sticking his fingers in his ears. He was so cute. We about choked

> laughing at him trying to plug his ears.

>

> We'll see what tomorrow brings.

>

[Guest guest]

You are correct Maurine they never mentioned regression. They said

he was always like that.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/05/15/eveningnews/main1620654.sht

ml

Saw the first segment and is was

OK. Had a stupid thunderstorm

> warning at the top of the screen though.

>

> Series started by distancing the world of Autism away from the

> basketball punk stating something like the world of autism is much

> more than one child.

>

> They will be featuring three children this week. Today was the

most

> severe kid, who they more or less described as regressively

autistic.

> Generally OK to a point in growth, but stopped listening to

people.

> No interaction with parents, etc. Saw no real severe behaviors or

> stims, etc. Quiet little guy.

>

> Both parents had a conspicuous blue lapel pin on. Kind of a hint.

>

> The reporter made one funny. The parents wanted to show his music

> therapy. There was a cut to a therapist pounding on a piano. I

guess

> she sort of had a non-singing singing voice, too. They showed the

> little guy run away from the piano. (I would, too) There was

another

> cut to the therapist chasing the little guy around the room while

> strumming on a guitar. The reporter's VO said something

like " music

> therapy where they basically chase you around with musical

> instruments, though it might not be doing any good " as they cut to

> the little guy folding his ears over to block the noise or maybe

him

> sticking his fingers in his ears. He was so cute. We about choked

> laughing at him trying to plug his ears.

>

> We'll see what tomorrow brings.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

They said the story tomorrow would be on a boy who has a milder form and was

getting better with a " controversial " (I think that was the word) treatment.

I think we know what that will be. I wonder how many times they are going to

have Marie McCormick on there saying that mercury doesn't cause autism.

[Guest guest]

they stated in the beginning they were not going to talk about the whys at all so i doubt they would interview her." H. " <tylerhaley01@...> wrote: They said the story tomorrow would be on a boy who has a milder form and was getting better with a "controversial" (I think that was the word) treatment. I think we know what that will be. I wonder how many times they are going to have Marie McCormick on there saying that mercury doesn't cause autism.

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[Guest guest]

I didn't catch the exact wording either but I thought it was

described as the craziest approach to therapy.

>

> They said the story tomorrow would be on a boy who has a milder

form and was

> getting better with a " controversial " (I think that was the word)

treatment.

> I think we know what that will be. I wonder how many times they

are going to

> have Marie McCormick on there saying that mercury doesn't cause

autism.

>

[Guest guest]

I didn't catch the first few lines as we were on red alert scrambles to the living room.

What led me to believe he was regressive was on his second birthday:

"People were calling his name and he wasn't listening to anybody," recalls Mojica, Adam's father.

The way he said it was sort of like that was something they hadn't seen before.

Re: CBS News Autism Series

unless I heard wrong-I didn't think they described it as regressive behavior at all. quite the opposite-like the almost gave the impression he always had it from early on.kerbob1 <robertbloch@...> wrote: Saw the first segment and is was OK. Had a stupid thunderstorm warning at the top of the screen though.Series started by distancing the world of Autism away from the basketball punk stating something like the world of autism is much more than one child. They will be featuring three children this week. Today was the most severe kid, who they more or less described as regressively autistic. Generally OK to a point in growth, but stopped listening to people. No interaction with parents, etc. Saw no real severe behaviors or stims, etc. Quiet little guy.Both parents had a conspicuous blue lapel pin on. Kind of a hint.The reporter made one funny. The parents wanted to show his music therapy. There was a cut to a therapist pounding on a piano. I guess she sort of had a non-singing singing voice, too. They showed the little guy run away from the piano. (I would, too) There was another cut to the therapist chasing the little guy around the room while strumming on a guitar. The reporter's VO said something like "music therapy where they basically chase you around with musical instruments, though it might not be doing any good" as they cut to the little guy folding his ears over to block the noise or maybe him sticking his fingers in his ears. He was so cute. We about choked laughing at him trying to plug his ears.We'll see what tomorrow brings.

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[Guest guest]

Hi

What time is the Autism Series on ?

MK

[Guest guest]

I thought the CBS report did something that we needed. Removing the

diagnosis from only savants and extreme talents to the spectrum and what

Autism is as a spectrum. I particularly thought the segment about

everyone's continuing reference to Rain Man was appropriate. It was too

short and has a long way to go but small steps. The music piece was funny

and should show that these kids really need people to sing and play on " Key "

in order to be effective. Music therapy was great for my son in EI for

organizing language but if you sing or play off key " see ya " , he'd be gone.

-

Re: CBS News Autism Series

Overall I anticipate it going to be pretty lame.

Did you hear Bob Schieffer say that there are lot's of theories as

to why autism is ten times more common today then it was twenty

years ago? But..... their not going to get into that....

Great. What are you going to get into?

Another fluff piece with shoulder shrugging experts mystified as to

why all these kids are autistic. Stressed out, confused parents and

no mention of causation.

Is it still sweeps week?

I think they should do a story on autistic immigrants who are

struggling to pay the prices at the pump. Anyone else?

>

> Saw the first segment and is was OK. Had a stupid thunderstorm

> warning at the top of the screen though.

>

> Series started by distancing the world of Autism away from the

> basketball punk stating something like the world of autism is much

> more than one child.

>

> They will be featuring three children this week. Today was the

most

> severe kid, who they more or less described as regressively

autistic.

> Generally OK to a point in growth, but stopped listening to

people.

> No interaction with parents, etc. Saw no real severe behaviors or

> stims, etc. Quiet little guy.

>

> Both parents had a conspicuous blue lapel pin on. Kind of a hint.

>

> The reporter made one funny. The parents wanted to show his music

> therapy. There was a cut to a therapist pounding on a piano. I

guess

> she sort of had a non-singing singing voice, too. They showed the

> little guy run away from the piano. (I would, too) There was

another

> cut to the therapist chasing the little guy around the room while

> strumming on a guitar. The reporter's VO said something

like " music

> therapy where they basically chase you around with musical

> instruments, though it might not be doing any good " as they cut to

> the little guy folding his ears over to block the noise or maybe

him

> sticking his fingers in his ears. He was so cute. We about choked

> laughing at him trying to plug his ears.

>

> We'll see what tomorrow brings.

>

[Guest guest]

I particularly thought the segment about

> everyone's continuing reference to Rain Man was appropriate.

I find references to the Rainman movie a little curious. This film is

18 years old. Is the movie really that big of a benchmark for autism

anymore? If the average autism parent is 30 years old -- a wild guess

based on my observations at autism conferences -- they would have had

to have seen the movie when they were 12.

Here are the top grossing movies from 1988

172,825,435 Rain Man (1988)

154,222,492 Who Framed Rabbit (1988)

128,152,300 Coming to America (1988)

114,968,774 Big (1988)

111,936,400 Twins (1988/I)

109,305,000 'Crocodile' Dundee II (1988)

81,350,242 Die Hard (1988)

78,222,753 Cocktail (1988)

78,041,829 The Naked Gun: From the Files of Police Squad! (1988)

73,450,885 Oliver & Company (1988)

Most of those are still pretty fresh in my memory. But then again,

I'm in my 50's. (I consider Rabbit to be a classic).

Lenny

[Guest guest]

I agree this shouldn't be the case but... I still constantly get the " Oh,

like Rain Man " when I mention my son's diagnosis. Although, I think the age

group still doing this are definitely older. My son's elderly neurologist

refused to believe the diagnosis just 3 years ago because my son liked to be

touched. Obviously we left him behind.-

Re: CBS News Autism Series

I particularly thought the segment about

> everyone's continuing reference to Rain Man was appropriate.

I find references to the Rainman movie a little curious. This film is

18 years old. Is the movie really that big of a benchmark for autism

anymore? If the average autism parent is 30 years old -- a wild guess

based on my observations at autism conferences -- they would have had

to have seen the movie when they were 12.

Here are the top grossing movies from 1988

172,825,435 Rain Man (1988)

154,222,492 Who Framed Rabbit (1988)

128,152,300 Coming to America (1988)

114,968,774 Big (1988)

111,936,400 Twins (1988/I)

109,305,000 'Crocodile' Dundee II (1988)

81,350,242 Die Hard (1988)

78,222,753 Cocktail (1988)

78,041,829 The Naked Gun: From the Files of Police Squad!

(1988)

73,450,885 Oliver & Company (1988)

Most of those are still pretty fresh in my memory. But then again,

I'm in my 50's. (I consider Rabbit to be a classic).

Lenny

[Guest guest]

This only illicits the fact that so little attention has been given

to autism for the last 18 years as far as the genreal public is

concerned

Now, when we were hoping to get the mercury out of the vaccines and

we were waiting to see if the numbers dropped.CDC starts a

manipulation campaign. How many years did they deny the epidemic?

Thanks to the CDC the mercury's not out, but they are saying it is,

and the numbers aren't really changing that much. They put out some

useless press release about the numbers and the press is all over

it, for days no less.

All these efforts are to hide vaccines role in autism and to protect

the vaccine program.

I also think that since the s formed Autism Speaks and have

been doing multiple stories w/ some follow up, PSA's, Don Imus etc...

The other Network's are just trying to keep up with them.

BTW, We like Oliver and Company in our house.

> I particularly thought the segment about

> > everyone's continuing reference to Rain Man was appropriate.

>

>

> I find references to the Rainman movie a little curious. This

film is

> 18 years old. Is the movie really that big of a benchmark for

autism

> anymore? If the average autism parent is 30 years old -- a wild

guess

> based on my observations at autism conferences -- they would have

had

> to have seen the movie when they were 12.

>

> Here are the top grossing movies from 1988

>

> 172,825,435 Rain Man (1988)

> 154,222,492 Who Framed Rabbit (1988)

> 128,152,300 Coming to America (1988)

> 114,968,774 Big (1988)

> 111,936,400 Twins (1988/I)

> 109,305,000 'Crocodile' Dundee II (1988)

> 81,350,242 Die Hard (1988)

> 78,222,753 Cocktail (1988)

> 78,041,829 The Naked Gun: From the Files of Police

Squad! (1988)

> 73,450,885 Oliver & Company (1988)

>

> Most of those are still pretty fresh in my memory. But then again,

> I'm in my 50's. (I consider Rabbit to be a classic).

> Lenny

>

[Guest guest]

I didn't see the segment, so perhaps I'm missing something? Some

kids aren't regressive -- my child never lost language becuase he

never had it -- has never said a word. He never

developed " normally " due to a variety of things (primarily being

born premature) -- so perhaps they didn't use that terminology

because it doesn't fit their child - just as I don't. As we know

ASD is a spectrum.

Diane

Saw the first segment and is was

OK. Had a stupid thunderstorm

> warning at the top of the screen though.

>

> Series started by distancing the world of Autism away from the

> basketball punk stating something like the world of autism is much

> more than one child.

>

> They will be featuring three children this week. Today was the

most

> severe kid, who they more or less described as regressively

autistic.

> Generally OK to a point in growth, but stopped listening to

people.

> No interaction with parents, etc. Saw no real severe behaviors or

> stims, etc. Quiet little guy.

>

> Both parents had a conspicuous blue lapel pin on. Kind of a hint.

>

> The reporter made one funny. The parents wanted to show his music

> therapy. There was a cut to a therapist pounding on a piano. I

guess

> she sort of had a non-singing singing voice, too. They showed the

> little guy run away from the piano. (I would, too) There was

another

> cut to the therapist chasing the little guy around the room while

> strumming on a guitar. The reporter's VO said something

like " music

> therapy where they basically chase you around with musical

> instruments, though it might not be doing any good " as they cut to

> the little guy folding his ears over to block the noise or maybe

him

> sticking his fingers in his ears. He was so cute. We about choked

> laughing at him trying to plug his ears.

>

> We'll see what tomorrow brings.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

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From: "dpowell605" <POWDER914@...>Reply-EOHarm To: EOHarm Subject: Re: CBS News Autism SeriesDate: Tue, 16 May 2006 15:25:32 -0000I didn't see the segment, so perhaps I'm missing something? Some kids aren't regressive -- my child never lost language becuase he never had it -- has never said a word. He never developed "normally" due to a variety of things (primarily being born premature) -- so perhaps they didn't use that terminology because it doesn't fit their child - just as I don't. As we know ASD is a spectrum.Diane Saw the first segment and is was OK. Had a stupid thunderstorm > warning at the top of the screen though.> > Series started by distancing the world of Autism away from the > basketball punk stating something like the world of autism is much > more than one child. > > They will be featuring three children this week. Today was the most > severe kid, who they more or less described as regressively autistic. > Generally OK to a point in growth, but stopped listening to people. > No interaction with parents, etc. Saw no real severe behaviors or > stims, etc. Quiet little guy.> > Both parents had a conspicuous blue lapel pin on. Kind of a hint.> > The reporter made one funny. The parents wanted to show his music > therapy. There was a cut to a therapist pounding on a piano. I guess > she sort of had a non-singing singing voice, too. They showed the > little guy run away from the piano. (I would, too) There was another > cut to the therapist chasing the little guy around the room while > strumming on a guitar. The reporter's VO said something like "music > therapy where they basically chase you around with musical > instruments, though it might not be doing any good" as they cut to > the little guy folding his ears over to block the noise or maybe him > sticking his fingers in his ears. He was so cute. We about choked > laughing at him trying to plug his ears.> > We'll see what tomorrow brings.> > > > > > >

[Guest guest]

We're fighting the dark side.

Did anyone expect them to give up.

They'll only get worse.

We're fortunate that the administration's credibility on virtually everything is in the tank.

It boggles the mind that they have become this corrupt.

I believe that a lot of people are questioning motives, veracity, everything.

It is part of the education.

Re: CBS News Autism Series

This only illicits the fact that so little attention has been given to autism for the last 18 years as far as the genreal public is concernedNow, when we were hoping to get the mercury out of the vaccines and we were waiting to see if the numbers dropped.CDC starts a manipulation campaign. How many years did they deny the epidemic?Thanks to the CDC the mercury's not out, but they are saying it is, and the numbers aren't really changing that much. They put out some useless press release about the numbers and the press is all over it, for days no less.All these efforts are to hide vaccines role in autism and to protect the vaccine program.I also think that since the s formed Autism Speaks and have been doing multiple stories w/ some follow up, PSA's, Don Imus etc...The other Network's are just trying to keep up with them.BTW, We like Oliver and Company in our house.> I particularly thought the segment about> > everyone's continuing reference to Rain Man was appropriate. > > > I find references to the Rainman movie a little curious. This film is> 18 years old. Is the movie really that big of a benchmark for autism> anymore? If the average autism parent is 30 years old -- a wild guess> based on my observations at autism conferences -- they would have had> to have seen the movie when they were 12. > > Here are the top grossing movies from 1988> > 172,825,435 Rain Man (1988)> 154,222,492 Who Framed Rabbit (1988)> 128,152,300 Coming to America (1988)> 114,968,774 Big (1988)> 111,936,400 Twins (1988/I)> 109,305,000 'Crocodile' Dundee II (1988)> 81,350,242 Die Hard (1988)> 78,222,753 Cocktail (1988)> 78,041,829 The Naked Gun: From the Files of Police Squad! (1988)> 73,450,885 Oliver & Company (1988)> > Most of those are still pretty fresh in my memory. But then again,> I'm in my 50's. (I consider Rabbit to be a classic).> Lenny>

[Guest guest]

It's a three part series on the CBS world news. It airs at 6:30 EST.

The 2nd part airs tonight and part 3 airs tomorrow.

>

> Hi

>

> What time is the Autism Series on ?

>

> MK

>

[Guest guest]

Die Hard is my favorite!!

I am 30 and rainman is very fresh in my head. I think a lot of people

watched it then, and I think people see the re-airings of it now.

It kind of entered our vocab too...

I still say the line about being a good driver but only in the driveway on

sundays... (everytime I drive my car into a pole or wall or curb... lol)

and KMart Sucks, Ray.

I think its still fresh in a lot of minds when it comes to creating a

picture of autism.

....

remembering when Tom Cruise was normal and cute....

Re: CBS News Autism Series

>

>

> I particularly thought the segment about

>> everyone's continuing reference to Rain Man was appropriate.

>

[Guest guest]

that is an interesting point. For 18 years and running this is our pop

culture reference to autism.

18 years of nothing else. --nothing mainstream.

----- Original Message -----

From: " andrea52521991 " <mkeller@...>

> This only illicits the fact that so little attention has been given

> to autism for the last 18 years as far as the genreal public is

> concerned

>

[Guest guest]

> I particularly thought the segment about

> > everyone's continuing reference to Rain Man was appropriate.

>

>

> I find references to the Rainman movie a little curious. This film is

> 18 years old. Is the movie really that big of a benchmark for autism

> anymore? If the average autism parent is 30 years old -- a wild guess

> based on my observations at autism conferences -- they would have had

> to have seen the movie when they were 12.

True- but the people that use Rainman as the autism benchmark and look

at our kids and pass judgment are often older. So even if the autism

parents are 30-somethings, the general population that doesn't

understand our kids is older.

I remember Rainman very well, but was 16 at the time and very into Tom

Cruise back then, LOL.

Becky

>

[Guest guest]

Rainman is always replayed on channels like USA or TBS or AMC.

Actually, it was just on again a day or two ago. My daughter is 11

and she has seen the movie a few times and read the book.

Maybe in the future we will have another Academy Award winning movie

based on Evidence of Harm by Kirby.

>

> > I particularly thought the segment about

> > > everyone's continuing reference to Rain Man was appropriate.

> >

> >

> > I find references to the Rainman movie a little curious. This

film is

> > 18 years old. Is the movie really that big of a benchmark for

autism

> > anymore? If the average autism parent is 30 years old -- a wild

guess

> > based on my observations at autism conferences -- they would

have had

> > to have seen the movie when they were 12.

>

> True- but the people that use Rainman as the autism benchmark and

look

> at our kids and pass judgment are often older. So even if the

autism

> parents are 30-somethings, the general population that doesn't

> understand our kids is older.

>

> I remember Rainman very well, but was 16 at the time and very into

Tom

> Cruise back then, LOL.

>

> Becky

>

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Yes, the movie really is that big of a benchmark. I am 33 and

thought my son could not possibly have autism because he was not at

all like Rain Man. That was the only reference to autism I knew. I

must have seen the movie on TV, not when it first came out.

> I particularly thought the segment about

> > everyone's continuing reference to Rain Man was appropriate.

>

>

> I find references to the Rainman movie a little curious. This

film is

> 18 years old. Is the movie really that big of a benchmark for

autism

> anymore? If the average autism parent is 30 years old -- a wild

guess

> based on my observations at autism conferences -- they would have

had

> to have seen the movie when they were 12.

>

> Here are the top grossing movies from 1988

>

> 172,825,435 Rain Man (1988)

> 154,222,492 Who Framed Rabbit (1988)

> 128,152,300 Coming to America (1988)

> 114,968,774 Big (1988)

> 111,936,400 Twins (1988/I)

> 109,305,000 'Crocodile' Dundee II (1988)

> 81,350,242 Die Hard (1988)

> 78,222,753 Cocktail (1988)

> 78,041,829 The Naked Gun: From the Files of Police

Squad! (1988)

> 73,450,885 Oliver & Company (1988)

>

> Most of those are still pretty fresh in my memory. But then again,

> I'm in my 50's. (I consider Rabbit to be a classic).

> Lenny

>

[Guest guest]

Yes, the movie really is that big of a benchmark. I am 33 and

thought my son could not possibly have autism because he was not at

all like Rain Man. That was the only reference to autism I knew. I

must have seen the movie on TV, not when it first came out.

> I particularly thought the segment about

> > everyone's continuing reference to Rain Man was appropriate.

>

>

> I find references to the Rainman movie a little curious. This

film is

> 18 years old. Is the movie really that big of a benchmark for

autism

> anymore? If the average autism parent is 30 years old -- a wild

guess

> based on my observations at autism conferences -- they would have

had

> to have seen the movie when they were 12.

>

> Here are the top grossing movies from 1988

>

> 172,825,435 Rain Man (1988)

> 154,222,492 Who Framed Rabbit (1988)

> 128,152,300 Coming to America (1988)

> 114,968,774 Big (1988)

> 111,936,400 Twins (1988/I)

> 109,305,000 'Crocodile' Dundee II (1988)

> 81,350,242 Die Hard (1988)

> 78,222,753 Cocktail (1988)

> 78,041,829 The Naked Gun: From the Files of Police

Squad! (1988)

> 73,450,885 Oliver & Company (1988)

>

> Most of those are still pretty fresh in my memory. But then again,

> I'm in my 50's. (I consider Rabbit to be a classic).

> Lenny

>