Guest guest Posted June 5, 2006 Report Share Posted June 5, 2006 thank you for your comments. I am about to chelate my almost 9 year old grandson again this summer as I feel we did it for too short a time when he was 6. I too am optimistic regardless of his age. maurine Hooker <sploobnoober@...> wrote: With all due respect to the coverage, NO ONE is ever too old for chelation therapy to be effective. There may be confounding issues preventing detoxification (e.g., ammonia toxicity) that need to be addressed, but folks at any age can detox and generate new neural nets...I get so sick of hearing that myth - teens with autism are not "locked in" a life sentence... Ring'em or ping'em. Make PC-to-phone calls as low as 1¢/min with Messenger with Voice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2006 Report Share Posted June 5, 2006 And I really think different kids respond to diff methods. I know one kid who's nearly recovered, his mom credits TD-DMPS. Another kid's mom was actively exposed to methlymercury at a national lab at least twice while preg, TD-DMPS did nothing. He's almost gotta have it in there, I say try something diff. I know someone else who's homeopath chelated, don't even know what method, he's essentially recovered. I always fear families will try one way and give up. If one way fails, try tweaking it. Debi > > thank you for your comments. I am about to chelate my almost 9 year old grandson again this summer as I feel we did it for too short a time when he was 6. I too am optimistic regardless of his age. maurine > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2006 Report Share Posted June 5, 2006 Absolutely, I have a dear friend who’s chelating her 43yo son with great results. I don’t think it’s age that is the factor, I think it’s sex (girls) and chelation drug choice. I don’t know if Jim tried the various chelation drugs but since he has a girl, all bets are off. L From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of Debi Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 10:02 PM EOHarm Subject: Re: Dateline Study And I really think different kids respond to diff methods. I know one kid who's nearly recovered, his mom credits TD-DMPS. Another kid's mom was actively exposed to methlymercury at a national lab at least twice while preg, TD-DMPS did nothing. He's almost gotta have it in there, I say try something diff. I know someone else who's homeopath chelated, don't even know what method, he's essentially recovered. I always fear families will try one way and give up. If one way fails, try tweaking it. Debi > > thank you for your comments. I am about to chelate my almost 9 year old grandson again this summer as I feel we did it for too short a time when he was 6. I too am optimistic regardless of his age. maurine > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2006 Report Share Posted June 5, 2006 Yes! My son is 15 with Asperger's. Currently we are chelating him with TD-DMSA (just ending Round 9) and will be adding in TD-EDTA on alternate weekends. He just keeps getting better and better. ...and to negate what the president of AAP said, my son has no other interventions besides Biomedical and chelation. Lils > > With all due respect to the coverage, NO ONE is ever too old for > chelation therapy to be effective. There may be confounding issues > preventing detoxification (e.g., ammonia toxicity) that need to be > addressed, but folks at any age can detox and generate new neural > nets... > > I get so sick of hearing that myth - teens with autism are not " locked > in " a life sentence... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2006 Report Share Posted June 5, 2006 Yes, this is a very good point... Josh also has been chelating for one year and is close to losing his dx (may be able to now, just a little delayed in expressive language for his age -- only talking about 10 months). He has never had so much as an hour of behavioral therapy. That says an awful lot about biomed. They practically wanted to institutionalize him a little over a year ago. I cannot wait to bring him back and tell them how he recovered. > > > > With all due respect to the coverage, NO ONE is ever too old for > > chelation therapy to be effective. There may be confounding issues > > preventing detoxification (e.g., ammonia toxicity) that need to be > > addressed, but folks at any age can detox and generate new neural > > nets... > > > > I get so sick of hearing that myth - teens with autism are not " locked > > in " a life sentence... > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2006 Report Share Posted June 5, 2006 on 6/4/06 10:51 PM, scottshoe11 at shoemaker@... wrote: > Yes, this is a very good point... Josh also has been chelating for > one year and is close to losing his dx (may be able to now, just a > little delayed in expressive language for his age -- only talking > about 10 months). He has never had so much as an hour of behavioral > therapy. That says an awful lot about biomed. They practically > wanted to institutionalize him a little over a year ago. I cannot > wait to bring him back and tell them how he recovered. > > Hey - Can i videotape that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2006 Report Share Posted June 5, 2006 Yes, you can. I am told the local hospital has been handing out a 15-20 page booklet to all parents of newly dx'd kids. It warns them that biomed is ineffective. It was written by some clowns who have no experience with it or did no research on it I am sure. Here is the funny thing about it. The guy who oversees the department that dx'd my son just wrote a book on " fad therapies " . I am sure that chelation is mentioned in it. I get the impression that he does not like me very much... The look on his face would make a good Kodak moment. --- In EOHarm , christine zichittella-heeren > Hey - Can i videotape that > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2006 Report Share Posted June 5, 2006 How wonderful for your son, . I pray that his improvement continues. Lila > > Yes, this is a very good point... Josh also has been chelating for > one year and is close to losing his dx (may be able to now, just a > little delayed in expressive language for his age -- only talking > about 10 months). He has never had so much as an hour of behavioral > therapy. That says an awful lot about biomed. They practically > wanted to institutionalize him a little over a year ago. I cannot > wait to bring him back and tell them how he recovered. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2006 Report Share Posted June 5, 2006 I just noticed your last name...Shoemaker. You were at Autism One. I was with le. Lila > > Yes, this is a very good point... Josh also has been chelating for > one year and is close to losing his dx (may be able to now, just a > little delayed in expressive language for his age -- only talking > about 10 months). He has never had so much as an hour of behavioral > therapy. That says an awful lot about biomed. They practically > wanted to institutionalize him a little over a year ago. I cannot > wait to bring him back and tell them how he recovered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2006 Report Share Posted June 5, 2006 I think Josh having a meeting with that department head would make a dandy follow-up story for Dateline. Wade > > Yes, you can. I am told the local hospital has been handing out a > 15-20 page booklet to all parents of newly dx'd kids. It warns them > that biomed is ineffective. It was written by some clowns who have > no experience with it or did no research on it I am sure. > > Here is the funny thing about it. The guy who oversees the > department that dx'd my son just wrote a book on " fad therapies " . I > am sure that chelation is mentioned in it. I get the impression > that he does not like me very much... The look on his face would > make a good Kodak moment. > > > > > > --- In EOHarm , christine zichittella-heeren > Hey > - Can i videotape that > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2006 Report Share Posted June 5, 2006 Amen, ! My almost 19-year-old, after watching tonight's segment on Dateline, thanked me for helping him fight autism. He's been chelating for a year and a half. Of course, there's much more to his story than chelation, but it's helped enormously. Jan > > With all due respect to the coverage, NO ONE is ever too old for > chelation therapy to be effective. There may be confounding issues > preventing detoxification (e.g., ammonia toxicity) that need to be > addressed, but folks at any age can detox and generate new neural > nets... > > I get so sick of hearing that myth - teens with autism are not " locked > in " a life sentence... > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2006 Report Share Posted June 5, 2006 This is SO AWESOME! It gives me hope. I have a 14 and an 11 year old. We are trying to decide if we should chelate them. I don't know how we can NOT try this. It seems to me that we have to do this! Donna > > > > > > With all due respect to the coverage, NO ONE is ever too old for > > > chelation therapy to be effective. There may be confounding > issues > > > preventing detoxification (e.g., ammonia toxicity) that need to > be > > > addressed, but folks at any age can detox and generate new > neural > > > nets... > > > > > > I get so sick of hearing that myth - teens with autism are > not " locked > > > in " a life sentence... > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2006 Report Share Posted June 5, 2006 > > With all due respect to the coverage, NO ONE is ever too old for > chelation therapy to be effective. There may be confounding issues > preventing detoxification (e.g., ammonia toxicity) that need to be > addressed, but folks at any age can detox and generate new neural > nets... > > I get so sick of hearing that myth - teens with autism are not " locked > in " a life sentence... > > >I watched the story yesterday, and wanted to yell out to Dr. about other chelators he probably had not tried on his daughter. Dr. Yasko has her own chelator which is not sulfur based and has done wonders for severly effected kids. I personally know one child, 19 years old, who excreted 40% more mercury in 6 months using YASKO RNA Metals chelator, than he had excreted using td-dmps for 6 YEARS!! SOme kids cannot handle any sulfur, and have high ammonia, and just don not respond to the usual chelators. I hope Dr. puts all DAN! politics aside and tries YASKO's chelators. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2006 Report Share Posted June 6, 2006 LDN and methyl b-12 are doing a lot for my daughter in 2 mos. I'm already looking forward to fall and the school staff seeing her improvements. I really wonder if people with autism who have no success with biomed just haven't found the right protocol for their kid. We'd tried b-12 shots someone gave us when her son regressed. Turned out they weren't the mix Dr. Neubrander recommended and I wasn't giving the shots correctly, neither did she have the LDN. Now that we have a diff mix, injecting correctly, and with LDN, we're seeing a world of diff. There's a biological explanation for everything in the human body, we just don't always know what it is. Behavioral interventions are critical too, but if the body is sick, we can't expect or shouldn't want our kids to suffer through behavioral therapies to fix what they can't fix. Debi > > Yes, this is a very good point... Josh also has been chelating for > one year and is close to losing his dx (may be able to now, just a > little delayed in expressive language for his age -- only talking > about 10 months). He has never had so much as an hour of behavioral > therapy. That says an awful lot about biomed. They practically > wanted to institutionalize him a little over a year ago. I cannot > wait to bring him back and tell them how he recovered. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2006 Report Share Posted June 6, 2006 What's LDN? Re: Dateline Study LDN and methyl b-12 are doing a lot for my daughter in 2 mos. I'malready looking forward to fall and the school staff seeing herimprovements. I really wonder if people with autism who have no success with biomedjust haven't found the right protocol for their kid. We'd tried b-12shots someone gave us when her son regressed. Turned out they weren'tthe mix Dr. Neubrander recommended and I wasn't giving the shotscorrectly, neither did she have the LDN. Now that we have a diff mix,injecting correctly, and with LDN, we're seeing a world of diff.There's a biological explanation for everything in the human body, wejust don't always know what it is. Behavioral interventions arecritical too, but if the body is sick, we can't expect or shouldn'twant our kids to suffer through behavioral therapies to fix what theycan't fix. Debi>> Yes, this is a very good point... Josh also has been chelating for > one year and is close to losing his dx (may be able to now, just a > little delayed in expressive language for his age -- only talking > about 10 months). He has never had so much as an hour of behavioral > therapy. That says an awful lot about biomed. They practically > wanted to institutionalize him a little over a year ago. I cannot > wait to bring him back and tell them how he recovered.> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2006 Report Share Posted June 6, 2006 <What's LDN? Low Dose Naltroxin. It is an opiate blocker. We started using it on our son 2 weeks ago and he is doing great on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2006 Report Share Posted June 6, 2006 You mean naltrexone? Re: Re: Dateline Study <What's LDN? Low Dose Naltroxin. It is an opiate blocker. We started using it on our son 2 weeks ago and he is doing great on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2006 Report Share Posted June 6, 2006 for the lady whose daughter responded to B12 injections. She probably has Immune Dysregulation. Have you tested for that? Have you tested for B12 malabsorption which can result from that?(antibodies to Imtrinsic factor) H.H. Fudenberg, M.D., DDG, IOM H. H.Fudenberg, M.D.,DDG.IOM Inman, SC 29349 (864) 592 8076 Website nitrf.org From: hcoleman <stratpat@...>Reply-EOHarm To: EOHarm Subject: Re: Re: Dateline StudyDate: Tue, 06 Jun 2006 05:35:49 -0400 What's LDN? Re: Dateline Study LDN and methyl b-12 are doing a lot for my daughter in 2 mos. I'malready looking forward to fall and the school staff seeing herimprovements. I really wonder if people with autism who have no success with biomedjust haven't found the right protocol for their kid. We'd tried b-12shots someone gave us when her son regressed. Turned out they weren'tthe mix Dr. Neubrander recommended and I wasn't giving the shotscorrectly, neither did she have the LDN. Now that we have a diff mix,injecting correctly, and with LDN, we're seeing a world of diff.There's a biological explanation for everything in the human body, wejust don't always know what it is. Behavioral interventions arecritical too, but if the body is sick, we can't expect or shouldn'twant our kids to suffer through behavioral therapies to fix what theycan't fix. Debi>> Yes, this is a very good point... Josh also has been chelating for > one year and is close to losing his dx (may be able to now, just a > little delayed in expressive language for his age -- only talking > about 10 months). He has never had so much as an hour of behavioral > therapy. That says an awful lot about biomed. They practically > wanted to institutionalize him a little over a year ago. I cannot > wait to bring him back and tell them how he recovered.> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2006 Report Share Posted June 6, 2006 for Is it an immune modulator? H. H.Fudenberg, M.D.,DDG.IOM Inman, SC 29349 (864) 592 8076 Website nitrf.org From: " H. " <tylerhaley01@...>Reply-EOHarm To: <EOHarm >Subject: Re: Re: Dateline StudyDate: Tue, 6 Jun 2006 05:41:22 -0400 <What's LDN? Low Dose Naltroxin. It is an opiate blocker. We started using it on our son 2 weeks ago and he is doing great on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2006 Report Share Posted June 6, 2006 Yes, but it is a very low dose,in a cream form (transdermal). If you want more info..contact me. > > You mean naltrexone? > > Re: Re: Dateline Study > > > > <What's LDN? > > Low Dose Naltroxin. It is an opiate blocker. We started using it on our son 2 weeks ago and he is doing great on it. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2006 Report Share Posted June 6, 2006 Mu receptor opioid antagonist. Re: Re: Dateline StudyDate: Tue, 6 Jun 2006 05:41:22 -0400 <What's LDN? Low Dose Naltroxin. It is an opiate blocker. We started using it on our son 2 weeks ago and he is doing great on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2006 Report Share Posted June 7, 2006 We just tested for all sorts of stuff, I'm now very satisfied that the doc we have is treating Allie based on her problems. Funny thing in a sick way, her ped for the last five years left a message that " all results were normal " then I get to her *real* doc and he went down the list with the abnormal patterns. It's only been six years of searching for a doc to find the right one. He's our Exodus 23:20. Debi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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