Guest guest Posted February 7, 2009 Report Share Posted February 7, 2009 i am sensing a lot of anger amy, so let me say that i too am not the enemy. nor do i live in an ivory tower the work you were being asked to do sounded like work you could not physically do, so i personally feel you could have rejected it reasonably on those grounds without having to sound disrespectful to other disabled people who due to having a different disability could indeed do those physically tasks. instead you came across that it was insult to ask someone with a high IQ to be lumped with less intelligent people who might pose a risk. this may well not be at all what you meant but it was open to that interpreation. that sort of thinking comes dangerously close to those times we might sense someone doesnt want sit next to us because of our disability. i dont see how you being placed in a dementia centre would take away from the care of my mother. if i am totally honest i would prefer my mother to be supported in the community like i am, but her disability isnt seen as deserving of resources as mine is. the people you talk about generally arent well resourced in terms of being integrated into mainstream society. i am not asking you to be a responsibile for managed care situations, or to be a miracle worker or to work yourself into an early grave and i am sorry if i wasnt clear enough to prevent you reading that into my post. i am asking you, and i ask everyone given the chance, to be respectful in how you talk about us disabled people. if we are to have the hope of non-disabled people being our allies for change then we to have to clearly show we are the allies of ALL disabled people. First they came for the Communists but I was not a Communist so I did not speak out. Then they came for the Socialists and the Trade Unionists but I was not one of them, so I did not speak out. Then they came for the Jews but I was not Jewish so I did not speak out. And when they came for me, there was no one left to speak out for me. i hope some of the post more directly relatec to Voc rehab will have helped you find work that is meaningful for you. cheers linda 2009/2/7 Amy <charmedcripchic@...> > Yess I knowwwwwwww thattttttt. Try to Keep to the Context > please. I'm not the enemy here. I'm not the person responsible for > badly managed care situations. > > Would you like it if me being placed in a dementia center took away > resources for the propper care of your mother? The money and walls of > these programs don't stretch to fit every person with any > disabilities being lumped together. > > Here's a few facts , not wanting a label put on me > innappropriatly because of my needs for wheelchair access dosen't > mean I'm labeling your mother. > > Having a phsical disability dosen't qualify me to be an autism, > mental health, or dementia, miracle worker. > > Having all the compassion in the world dosen't mean I'm responsible, > able, or obligated, to fixing these fucked systems. > > There's no solidarity going to happen between me and somone who can't > learn beyond a tellatubby episode, stop slapping their own ears into > mush, or remember what year we are living in. " All disabilities " - as > you put it- realy can not meet your unrealistic ideals to unite and > help each other. > > Me working myself into an earlier grave isn't going to help anybody. > > You have safe and meaningful visits with your mother at a dementia > care center, good for you- but where does that compare with me being > told to work under minimum wage at the mercy of violent > schizophrenics off of their medications in a state shafting day > program? > > My topic was about being steered to work in situations that are > dangerous to people with SMA. > > Since many of the SMAers I've met have been lumped innappropriately > with people who's disabilities affect their ability to reason, act > appropriately, function in social and work situations, during their > entire lives, I figured there'd be some support here. > > Instead I'm getting another lecture from the ivory tower. [AGAIN] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please advise me on your experiences and/or knowlege of > > > vocation > > > > > > > rehabilitation services. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Currently my VR {called MRC in this state} worker that was > > > good, > > > > > left to > > > > > > > have her baby. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Her replacement has derailed the plans and evaluations me > and > > > the > > > > > former > > > > > > > counselor set up. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The new counselor is trying to make me do jobs that are > > > physically > > > > > > > impossible, innappropriate and a danger to my health, to > do. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I keep politely informing my VR/MRC person about my health > > > > > situation > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and she keeps trying to bully my muscles into obeying her > > > > > command. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm being bitched out by her for not applying to a > sheltered > > > > > workshop > > > > > > > for the {retarded} developmentally delayed, Wal*mart > greeter, > > > or > > > > > doing a > > > > > > > job that involves managing mentally ill individuals with > daily > > > > > violent > > > > > > > outbursts. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My current VR/MRC 'counselor' acts very controlling, > > > demanding, > > > > > > > dismissive of my real disabilities, and treats me like a > 2nd > > > class > > > > > > > citizen in my own home. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > She even tries to order my own employed assistants around > and > > > at > > > > > other > > > > > > > times tries to 'catch' me as 'lieing' by demanding me to > > > > > physically > > > > > > > demonstrate if I can't reach, lift, etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Have any members here dealt with this? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2009 Report Share Posted February 7, 2009 , Your point really came through with ... First they came for the Communists but I was not a Communist so I did not speak out. Then they came for the Socialists and the Trade Unionists but I was not one of them, so I did not speak out. Then they came for the Jews but I was not Jewish so I did not speak out. And when they came for me, there was no one left to speak out for me. That is a very powerful reminder. Lori ________________________________ From: Moss <lindajmoss@...> Sent: Saturday, February 7, 2009 2:56:04 PM Subject: Re: Re: Voc Rehab question i am sensing a lot of anger amy, so let me say that i too am not the enemy. nor do i live in an ivory tower the work you were being asked to do sounded like work you could not physically do, so i personally feel you could have rejected it reasonably on those grounds without having to sound disrespectful to other disabled people who due to having a different disability could indeed do those physically tasks. instead you came across that it was insult to ask someone with a high IQ to be lumped with less intelligent people who might pose a risk. this may well not be at all what you meant but it was open to that interpreation. that sort of thinking comes dangerously close to those times we might sense someone doesnt want sit next to us because of our disability. i dont see how you being placed in a dementia centre would take away from the care of my mother. if i am totally honest i would prefer my mother to be supported in the community like i am, but her disability isnt seen as deserving of resources as mine is. the people you talk about generally arent well resourced in terms of being integrated into mainstream society. i am not asking you to be a responsibile for managed care situations, or to be a miracle worker or to work yourself into an early grave and i am sorry if i wasnt clear enough to prevent you reading that into my post. i am asking you, and i ask everyone given the chance, to be respectful in how you talk about us disabled people. if we are to have the hope of non-disabled people being our allies for change then we to have to clearly show we are the allies of ALL disabled people. First they came for the Communists but I was not a Communist so I did not speak out. Then they came for the Socialists and the Trade Unionists but I was not one of them, so I did not speak out. Then they came for the Jews but I was not Jewish so I did not speak out. And when they came for me, there was no one left to speak out for me. i hope some of the post more directly relatec to Voc rehab will have helped you find work that is meaningful for you. cheers linda 2009/2/7 Amy <charmedcripchic> > Yess I knowwwwwwww thattttttt. Try to Keep to the Context > please. I'm not the enemy here. I'm not the person responsible for > badly managed care situations. > > Would you like it if me being placed in a dementia center took away > resources for the propper care of your mother? The money and walls of > these programs don't stretch to fit every person with any > disabilities being lumped together. > > Here's a few facts , not wanting a label put on me > innappropriatly because of my needs for wheelchair access dosen't > mean I'm labeling your mother. > > Having a phsical disability dosen't qualify me to be an autism, > mental health, or dementia, miracle worker. > > Having all the compassion in the world dosen't mean I'm responsible, > able, or obligated, to fixing these fucked systems. > > There's no solidarity going to happen between me and somone who can't > learn beyond a tellatubby episode, stop slapping their own ears into > mush, or remember what year we are living in. " All disabilities " - as > you put it- realy can not meet your unrealistic ideals to unite and > help each other. > > Me working myself into an earlier grave isn't going to help anybody. > > You have safe and meaningful visits with your mother at a dementia > care center, good for you- but where does that compare with me being > told to work under minimum wage at the mercy of violent > schizophrenics off of their medications in a state shafting day > program? > > My topic was about being steered to work in situations that are > dangerous to people with SMA. > > Since many of the SMAers I've met have been lumped innappropriately > with people who's disabilities affect their ability to reason, act > appropriately, function in social and work situations, during their > entire lives, I figured there'd be some support here. > > Instead I'm getting another lecture from the ivory tower. [AGAIN] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please advise me on your experiences and/or knowlege of > > > vocation > > > > > > > rehabilitation services. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Currently my VR {called MRC in this state} worker that was > > > good, > > > > > left to > > > > > > > have her baby. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Her replacement has derailed the plans and evaluations me > and > > > the > > > > > former > > > > > > > counselor set up. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The new counselor is trying to make me do jobs that are > > > physically > > > > > > > impossible, innappropriate and a danger to my health, to > do. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I keep politely informing my VR/MRC person about my health > > > > > situation > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and she keeps trying to bully my muscles into obeying her > > > > > command. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm being bitched out by her for not applying to a > sheltered > > > > > workshop > > > > > > > for the {retarded} developmentally delayed, Wal*mart > greeter, > > > or > > > > > doing a > > > > > > > job that involves managing mentally ill individuals with > daily > > > > > violent > > > > > > > outbursts. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My current VR/MRC 'counselor' acts very controlling, > > > demanding, > > > > > > > dismissive of my real disabilities, and treats me like a > 2nd > > > class > > > > > > > citizen in my own home. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > She even tries to order my own employed assistants around > and > > > at > > > > > other > > > > > > > times tries to 'catch' me as 'lieing' by demanding me to > > > > > physically > > > > > > > demonstrate if I can't reach, lift, etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Have any members here dealt with this? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2009 Report Share Posted February 7, 2009 You are twisting what I said and over laying your own life issues on me. How does one person venting on a membership required discussion board mean all people with a disability are being oppressed? If I am put into a job placement in the position that a better qualified worker could do the physical demands of the job- it would affect people's care. If hypothetically I was in your mom's care center it would take resources away. If me or anybody else is innappropriately placed in a care facility- then another person might be left without any services they need at all. Nobody wins when they get shafted into rigid institutional settings but me describing my experiences didn't put anybody in there. I never thought or said I'm " better " I said it's innappropriate. There's a difference. Hang me for what I do not what you warp. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please advise me on your experiences and/or knowlege of > > > > vocation > > > > > > > > rehabilitation services. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Currently my VR {called MRC in this state} worker that was > > > > good, > > > > > > left to > > > > > > > > have her baby. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Her replacement has derailed the plans and evaluations me > > and > > > > the > > > > > > former > > > > > > > > counselor set up. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The new counselor is trying to make me do jobs that are > > > > physically > > > > > > > > impossible, innappropriate and a danger to my health, to > > do. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I keep politely informing my VR/MRC person about my health > > > > > > situation > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and she keeps trying to bully my muscles into obeying her > > > > > > command. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm being bitched out by her for not applying to a > > sheltered > > > > > > workshop > > > > > > > > for the {retarded} developmentally delayed, Wal*mart > > greeter, > > > > or > > > > > > doing a > > > > > > > > job that involves managing mentally ill individuals with > > daily > > > > > > violent > > > > > > > > outbursts. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My current VR/MRC 'counselor' acts very controlling, > > > > demanding, > > > > > > > > dismissive of my real disabilities, and treats me like a > > 2nd > > > > class > > > > > > > > citizen in my own home. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > She even tries to order my own employed assistants around > > and > > > > at > > > > > > other > > > > > > > > times tries to 'catch' me as 'lieing' by demanding me to > > > > > > physically > > > > > > > > demonstrate if I can't reach, lift, etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Have any members here dealt with this? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2009 Report Share Posted February 7, 2009 NOW I'M BEING COMPARED WITH THE HOLOCAUST- what is your major malfunction? Comparing my VR aggravations to perpetrating a holocaust is a new low for you. Where do you get those talents....umhmm....stay classy! [] Way to go insulting the real victims again. [=D>] [=D>] [=D>] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please advise me on your experiences and/or knowlege of > > > > vocation > > > > > > > > rehabilitation services. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Currently my VR {called MRC in this state} worker that was > > > > good, > > > > > > left to > > > > > > > > have her baby. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Her replacement has derailed the plans and evaluations me > > and > > > > the > > > > > > former > > > > > > > > counselor set up. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The new counselor is trying to make me do jobs that are > > > > physically > > > > > > > > impossible, innappropriate and a danger to my health, to > > do. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I keep politely informing my VR/MRC person about my health > > > > > > situation > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and she keeps trying to bully my muscles into obeying her > > > > > > command. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm being bitched out by her for not applying to a > > sheltered > > > > > > workshop > > > > > > > > for the {retarded} developmentally delayed, Wal*mart > > greeter, > > > > or > > > > > > doing a > > > > > > > > job that involves managing mentally ill individuals with > > daily > > > > > > violent > > > > > > > > outbursts. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My current VR/MRC 'counselor' acts very controlling, > > > > demanding, > > > > > > > > dismissive of my real disabilities, and treats me like a > > 2nd > > > > class > > > > > > > > citizen in my own home. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > She even tries to order my own employed assistants around > > and > > > > at > > > > > > other > > > > > > > > times tries to 'catch' me as 'lieing' by demanding me to > > > > > > physically > > > > > > > > demonstrate if I can't reach, lift, etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Have any members here dealt with this? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2009 Report Share Posted February 7, 2009 /Might?/ No, it sounded more like she was talking about a /particular/ situation in which the co-workers /would/ be a /hazard,/ and where she would be unable to defend herself. No more / no less. Moss wrote on 02/07/09 14:56: > i am sensing a lot of anger amy, so let me say that i too am not the > enemy. nor do i live in an ivory tower > > the work you were being asked to do sounded like work you could not > physically do, so i personally feel you could have rejected it > reasonably on those grounds without having to sound disrespectful to > other disabled people who due to having a different disability could > indeed do those physically tasks. > > instead you came across that it was insult to ask someone with a high > IQ to be lumped with less intelligent people who might pose a risk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2009 Report Share Posted February 7, 2009 Jeff, Actually, Amy did say more. If you follow this thread way back to the beginning, you will find that was pointing out that Amy's use of the words like retard and loony tune to describe others with a disablilty only hurts our community as a whole. Amy's responses did not address 's statement. Of course, I cannot speak for everyone, but I believe there is an agreement that Amy should not be forced to work in an environment that could put her at risk of harm. That is all was saying. No more and no less. Lori > > /Might?/ No, it sounded more like she was talking about a /particular/ > situation in which the co-workers /would/ be a /hazard,/ and where she > would be unable to defend herself. > No more / no less. > > Moss wrote on 02/07/09 14:56: > > > i am sensing a lot of anger amy, so let me say that i too am not the > > enemy. nor do i live in an ivory tower > > > > the work you were being asked to do sounded like work you could not > > physically do, so i personally feel you could have rejected it > > reasonably on those grounds without having to sound disrespectful to > > other disabled people who due to having a different disability could > > indeed do those physically tasks. > > > > instead you came across that it was insult to ask someone with a high > > IQ to be lumped with less intelligent people who might pose a risk. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2009 Report Share Posted February 8, 2009 Thank you Jeff [virtual hugs and kisses]! Oh my gawd- somebody Finally actually understood my post instead of getting their panties in a twist over something I never said. At least one person here isn't bitching me out over another person twisting what I said completely into an orgami project that dosen't resemble anywhere near the truth. > > /Might?/ No, it sounded more like she was talking about a /particular/ > situation in which the co-workers /would/ be a /hazard,/ and where she > would be unable to defend herself. > No more / no less. > > Moss wrote on 02/07/09 14:56: > > > i am sensing a lot of anger amy, so let me say that i too am not the > > enemy. nor do i live in an ivory tower > > > > the work you were being asked to do sounded like work you could not > > physically do, so i personally feel you could have rejected it > > reasonably on those grounds without having to sound disrespectful to > > other disabled people who due to having a different disability could > > indeed do those physically tasks. > > > > instead you came across that it was insult to ask someone with a high > > IQ to be lumped with less intelligent people who might pose a risk. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2009 Report Share Posted February 8, 2009 And anyone here knows that Lori has had a vendetta against me for ages that slants all her posts about me in a negative direction. Fairness is what I'm asking for not hateful lies about me. Is that so much to ask ? Hang me for what I really do not some 12th hand rumor. > > > > /Might?/ No, it sounded more like she was talking about > a /particular/ > > situation in which the co-workers /would/ be a /hazard,/ and where > she > > would be unable to defend herself. > > No more / no less. > > > > Moss wrote on 02/07/09 14:56: > > > > > i am sensing a lot of anger amy, so let me say that i too am not > the > > > enemy. nor do i live in an ivory tower > > > > > > the work you were being asked to do sounded like work you could > not > > > physically do, so i personally feel you could have rejected it > > > reasonably on those grounds without having to sound disrespectful > to > > > other disabled people who due to having a different disability > could > > > indeed do those physically tasks. > > > > > > instead you came across that it was insult to ask someone with a > high > > > IQ to be lumped with less intelligent people who might pose a > risk. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2009 Report Share Posted February 8, 2009 this is the very last time i am going to reply as i am concerned this is becoming spam for most people. i feel it is not ok for you to make personal accusations against lori or myself or indeed my panties. i personally have not twisted anything or uttered hateful lies. i just said i felt some of the language you used was offensive to disabled people. cheers linda 2009/2/9 Amy <charmedcripchic@...> > > And anyone here knows that Lori has had a vendetta against me for > ages that slants all her posts about me in a negative direction. > > Fairness is what I'm asking for not hateful lies about me. Is that > so much to ask ? > > Hang me for what I really do not some 12th hand rumor. > > > > > > > > > /Might?/ No, it sounded more like she was talking about > > a /particular/ > > > situation in which the co-workers /would/ be a /hazard,/ and > where > > she > > > would be unable to defend herself. > > > No more / no less. > > > > > > Moss wrote on 02/07/09 14:56: > > > > > > > i am sensing a lot of anger amy, so let me say that i too am > not > > the > > > > enemy. nor do i live in an ivory tower > > > > > > > > the work you were being asked to do sounded like work you could > > not > > > > physically do, so i personally feel you could have rejected it > > > > reasonably on those grounds without having to sound > disrespectful > > to > > > > other disabled people who due to having a different disability > > could > > > > indeed do those physically tasks. > > > > > > > > instead you came across that it was insult to ask someone with > a > > high > > > > IQ to be lumped with less intelligent people who might pose a > > risk. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2009 Report Share Posted February 8, 2009 Amy, Wow, I just saw this after I sent you a thank you reply for telling me about the chocolate power gel packs. Those sound like a great alternative for me and I appreciated the information. I'm sorry you feel this way. I know we strongly disagreed about the whole Jerry /MDA thing and I know I went too far with you. For that, I apologize and hope you can forgive me. I think we are very similar in that we have opinions that often deviate from the norm and we aren't afraid to standby what we believe in. I think that is a good thing but it also doesn't make us very popular sometimes. I often feel like I am over here and everyone else is over there. That's okay though, I am accepted here and have made very valuable friendships over the years. Maybe we could even be friends? Who knows what we could do if we partnered up! lol Lori > > > > > > /Might?/ No, it sounded more like she was talking about > > a /particular/ > > > situation in which the co-workers /would/ be a /hazard,/ and > where > > she > > > would be unable to defend herself. > > > No more / no less. > > > > > > Moss wrote on 02/07/09 14:56: > > > > > > > i am sensing a lot of anger amy, so let me say that i too am > not > > the > > > > enemy. nor do i live in an ivory tower > > > > > > > > the work you were being asked to do sounded like work you could > > not > > > > physically do, so i personally feel you could have rejected it > > > > reasonably on those grounds without having to sound > disrespectful > > to > > > > other disabled people who due to having a different disability > > could > > > > indeed do those physically tasks. > > > > > > > > instead you came across that it was insult to ask someone with > a > > high > > > > IQ to be lumped with less intelligent people who might pose a > > risk. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2009 Report Share Posted February 8, 2009 Thank you, I'm touched here and I really do appreciate this. Years ago a former member here and I went debating back and forth at first and now we have been great friends ever since. If this is a bury the hatchet momment than I'm all for it. In the movie To Wong Foo Chichi put it better than I can " Nobody's so broke they can't afford a new friend " Peace, friendship and cookies {and frosting! too} > > > > > > > > /Might?/ No, it sounded more like she was talking about > > > a /particular/ > > > > situation in which the co-workers /would/ be a /hazard,/ and > > where > > > she > > > > would be unable to defend herself. > > > > No more / no less. > > > > > > > > Moss wrote on 02/07/09 14:56: > > > > > > > > > i am sensing a lot of anger amy, so let me say that i too am > > not > > > the > > > > > enemy. nor do i live in an ivory tower > > > > > > > > > > the work you were being asked to do sounded like work you > could > > > not > > > > > physically do, so i personally feel you could have rejected it > > > > > reasonably on those grounds without having to sound > > disrespectful > > > to > > > > > other disabled people who due to having a different > disability > > > could > > > > > indeed do those physically tasks. > > > > > > > > > > instead you came across that it was insult to ask someone > with > > a > > > high > > > > > IQ to be lumped with less intelligent people who might pose a > > > risk. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2009 Report Share Posted February 8, 2009 Hey, Lori and I became good friends by arguing the telethon issue years ago! :-) On 2/8/09 9:55 PM, " Amy " <charmedcripchic@...> wrote: > > > > Thank you, > > I'm touched here and I really do appreciate this. > > Years ago a former member here and I went debating back and forth at > first and now we have been great friends ever since. > > If this is a bury the hatchet momment than I'm all for it. > > In the movie To Wong Foo Chichi put it better than I can " Nobody's so > broke they can't afford a new friend " > > Peace, friendship and cookies {and frosting! too} > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > /Might?/ No, it sounded more like she was talking about >>>> > > > a /particular/ >>>>> > > > > situation in which the co-workers /would/ be a /hazard,/ and >>> > > where >>>> > > > she >>>>> > > > > would be unable to defend herself. >>>>> > > > > No more / no less. >>>>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > Moss wrote on 02/07/09 14:56: >>>>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > i am sensing a lot of anger amy, so let me say that i too > am >>> > > not >>>> > > > the >>>>>> > > > > > enemy. nor do i live in an ivory tower >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > the work you were being asked to do sounded like work you >> > could >>>> > > > not >>>>>> > > > > > physically do, so i personally feel you could have rejected > it >>>>>> > > > > > reasonably on those grounds without having to sound >>> > > disrespectful >>>> > > > to >>>>>> > > > > > other disabled people who due to having a different >> > disability >>>> > > > could >>>>>> > > > > > indeed do those physically tasks. >>>>>> > > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > instead you came across that it was insult to ask someone >> > with >>> > > a >>>> > > > high >>>>>> > > > > > IQ to be lumped with less intelligent people who might pose > a >>>> > > > risk. >>>>> > > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > >> > > > > > >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2009 Report Share Posted February 10, 2009 Isn't it funny how things work out! L ________________________________ From: <nicoleroberts@...> " " < > Sent: Monday, February 9, 2009 12:20:12 AM Subject: Re: Re: Voc Rehab question Hey, Lori and I became good friends by arguing the telethon issue years ago! :-) Change settings via the Web ( ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch format to Traditional Visit Your Group | Terms of Use | Unsubscribe Recent Activity * Â 2 New Members * Â 1 New PollsVisit Your Group Sitebuilder Build a web site quickly & easily with Sitebuilder. Stay healthy and discover other people who can help. Group Charity Loans that change lives Kiva.org .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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