Guest guest Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 Oh, yeah That's my experience with BVR both times I have used them.( minus the in my own home part) I did end up taking a crappy job that really hurt my hands but I needed money and I wanted to work at home so I could expand my family. My counselor threatened to close my case if I did not take any job offer. I never told her the part about my desires to have another child. She probably would have closed my case for that one too. Suzanne On Jan 15, 2009, at 9:05 PM, Amy wrote: > > Please advise me on your experiences and/or knowlege of vocation > rehabilitation services. > > Currently my VR {called MRC in this state} worker that was good, > left to > have her baby. > > Her replacement has derailed the plans and evaluations me and the > former > counselor set up. > > The new counselor is trying to make me do jobs that are physically > impossible, innappropriate and a danger to my health, to do. > > I keep politely informing my VR/MRC person about my health situation > > and she keeps trying to bully my muscles into obeying her command. > > I'm being bitched out by her for not applying to a sheltered workshop > for the {retarded} developmentally delayed, Wal*mart greeter, or > doing a > job that involves managing mentally ill individuals with daily violent > outbursts. > > My current VR/MRC 'counselor' acts very controlling, demanding, > dismissive of my real disabilities, and treats me like a 2nd class > citizen in my own home. > > She even tries to order my own employed assistants around and at other > times tries to 'catch' me as 'lieing' by demanding me to physically > demonstrate if I can't reach, lift, etc. > > Have any members here dealt with this? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2009 Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 During college/grad school, my counselors were great. All they wanted from me was good grades. Maybe you could ask for another counselor. What type of work are you hoping to find? Good luck. I hope everything works out. L Sent from my Verizon BlackBerry Voc Rehab question Please advise me on your experiences and/or knowlege of vocation rehabilitation services. Currently my VR {called MRC in this state} worker that was good, left to have her baby. Her replacement has derailed the plans and evaluations me and the former counselor set up. The new counselor is trying to make me do jobs that are physically impossible, innappropriate and a danger to my health, to do. I keep politely informing my VR/MRC person about my health situation and she keeps trying to bully my muscles into obeying her command. I'm being bitched out by her for not applying to a sheltered workshop for the {retarded} developmentally delayed, Wal*mart greeter, or doing a job that involves managing mentally ill individuals with daily violent outbursts. My current VR/MRC 'counselor' acts very controlling, demanding, dismissive of my real disabilities, and treats me like a 2nd class citizen in my own home. She even tries to order my own employed assistants around and at other times tries to 'catch' me as 'lieing' by demanding me to physically demonstrate if I can't reach, lift, etc. Have any members here dealt with this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2009 Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 As a retired VR counselor, I can tell you that the RSA has mandated....in 1975....that you are entitled to an appeals process. Contact your State's Advocacy Inc. office to represent your interests during your appeal. Vicki **************Inauguration '09: Get complete coverage from the nation's capital. (http://news.aol.com/main/politics/inauguration?ncid=emlcntusnews00000003) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2009 Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 Hi Amy I'm just starting in my major to be some kind of rehabilitation specialist. I obviously don't know much, yet, but I do know that your VR person is way out of line. I would suggest you speak with a supervisor and document everything your VR person has said. This question may seem really out of line, and feel free to say no, but would you mind if I shared your story with my casework professor & class as an example of what NOT to do? Thanks for sharing your story. It has helped me! MJ Purk SMA type I+, 21 years old “Your life is an occasion, rise to it.†~ Hoffman in Mr. Magorium's Wonder Emporium Ask me about B4SMA – Blankets for SMA kids, Our-SMA-Angels websites, and Personalized Merchandise! www.our-sma-angels.com/b4sma - B4SMA, My organization www.our-sma-angels.com/Margaret - My website www.cafepress.com/b4sma - My Shop Voc Rehab question Posted by: " Amy " charmedcripchic@...  charmedcripchic Thu Jan 15, 2009 6:05 pm (PST) Please advise me on your experiences and/or knowlege of vocation rehabilitation services. Currently my VR {called MRC in this state} worker that was good, left to have her baby. Her=2 0replacement has derailed the plans and evaluations me and the former counselor set up. The new counselor is trying to make me do jobs that are physically impossible, innappropriate and a danger to my health, to do. I keep politely informing my VR/MRC person about my health situation and she keeps trying to bully my muscles into obeying her command. I'm being bitched out by her for not applying to a sheltered workshop for the {retarded} developmentally delayed, Wal*mart greeter, or doing a job that involves managing mentally ill individuals with daily violent outbursts. My current VR/MRC 'counselor' acts very controlling, demanding, dismissive of my real disabilities, and treats me like a 2nd class citizen in my own home. She even tries to order my own employed assistants around and at other times tries to 'catch' me as 'lieing' by demanding me to physically demonstrate if I can't reach, lift, etc. Have any members here dealt with this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2009 Report Share Posted January 18, 2009 I've sent an email asking for another counselor. > > During college/grad school, my counselors were great. All they wanted from me was good grades. > > Maybe you could ask for another counselor. What type of work are you hoping to find? Good luck. I hope everything works out. > > L > Sent from my Verizon BlackBerry > > Voc Rehab question > > > > Please advise me on your experiences and/or knowlege of vocation > rehabilitation services. > > Currently my VR {called MRC in this state} worker that was good, left to > have her baby. > > Her replacement has derailed the plans and evaluations me and the former > counselor set up. > > The new counselor is trying to make me do jobs that are physically > impossible, innappropriate and a danger to my health, to do. > > I keep politely informing my VR/MRC person about my health situation > > and she keeps trying to bully my muscles into obeying her command. > > I'm being bitched out by her for not applying to a sheltered workshop > for the {retarded} developmentally delayed, Wal*mart greeter, or doing a > job that involves managing mentally ill individuals with daily violent > outbursts. > > My current VR/MRC 'counselor' acts very controlling, demanding, > dismissive of my real disabilities, and treats me like a 2nd class > citizen in my own home. > > She even tries to order my own employed assistants around and at other > times tries to 'catch' me as 'lieing' by demanding me to physically > demonstrate if I can't reach, lift, etc. > > Have any members here dealt with this? > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2009 Report Share Posted January 18, 2009 Appeals processes need decisions and this VR person isn't putting her decisions down on paper as any denial or not. It's the treating me like I'm retarded and a perpetual child I want over with > > As a retired VR counselor, I can tell you that the RSA has mandated....in > 1975....that you are entitled to an appeals process. Contact your State's > Advocacy Inc. office to represent your interests during your appeal. > > Vicki > **************Inauguration '09: Get complete coverage from the nation's > capital. (http://news.aol.com/main/politics/inauguration? ncid=emlcntusnews00000003) > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2009 Report Share Posted January 18, 2009 Thank you MJ and share away if it helps others not have to be treated like 5th class citizens in their own home. > > > Hi Amy > I'm just starting in my major to be some kind of rehabilitation specialist. I obviously don't know much, yet, but I do know that your VR person is way out of line. I would suggest you speak with a supervisor and document everything your VR person has said. > This question may seem really out of line, and feel free to say no, but would you mind if I shared your story with my casework professor & class as an example of what NOT to do? Thanks for sharing your story. It has helped me! > > > MJ Purk > SMA type I+, 21 years old > “Your life is an occasion, rise to it.†~ Hoffman in Mr. Magorium's Wonder Emporium > > Ask me about B4SMA †" Blankets for SMA kids, Our-SMA-Angels websites, and Personalized Merchandise! > > www.our-sma-angels.com/b4sma - B4SMA, My organization > www.our-sma-angels.com/Margaret - My website > www.cafepress.com/b4sma - My Shop > > > > > Voc Rehab question > > > > Posted by: " Amy " > charmedcripchic@... >  > > charmedcripchic > > > > > > Thu Jan 15, 2009 6:05 pm (PST) > > > > > > > Please advise me on your experiences and/or knowlege of vocation > > rehabilitation services. > > > > Currently my VR {called MRC in this state} worker that was good, left to > > have her baby. > > > > Her=2 > 0replacement has derailed the plans and evaluations me and the former > > counselor set up. > > > > The new counselor is trying to make me do jobs that are physically > > impossible, innappropriate and a danger to my health, to do. > > > > I keep politely informing my VR/MRC person about my health situation > > > > and she keeps trying to bully my muscles into obeying her command. > > > > I'm being bitched out by her for not applying to a sheltered workshop > > for the {retarded} developmentally delayed, Wal*mart greeter, or doing a > > job that involves managing mentally ill individuals with daily violent > > outbursts. > > > > My current VR/MRC 'counselor' acts very controlling, demanding, > > dismissive of my real disabilities, and treats me like a 2nd class > > citizen in my own home. > > > > She even tries to order my own employed assistants around and at other > > times tries to 'catch' me as 'lieing' by demanding me to physically > > demonstrate if I can't reach, lift, etc. > > > > Have any members here dealt with this? > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2009 Report Share Posted January 25, 2009 You guys do know that you can fire your VR Counselor (or your doctor, therapist, case manager, DME company, etc.) and get a new one WITHOUT any negative fall out, don't you? You have rights.....so exert them! Speak up! Contact your local State Representative and tell your stories. Trust me....it really works! Kick some ass & take names! Vicki Jurney-, M.S., C.R.C. Retired Vocational Rehabilitation Counselor III **************Know Your Numbers: Get tips and tools to help you improve your credit score. (http://www.walletpop.com/credit/credit-reports?ncid=emlcntuswall00000002) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2009 Report Share Posted January 25, 2009 Wow - I have problems with my VR counselor, but not like the problems you have. Mine speaks down to me when she is around just me or me and my friends... but if my mother is in the room she speaks totally different to me. She thinks that when I graduate that I will magically get the higest HR position available! I have no work experience so I know this is not the case! She also seems to think that if I am able to get a job that I will make enough money to take care of all my medical needs (she obviously has no idea!) I am concerned about getting a full time job and losing my medical benefits and so forth, but she doesn't see that. She told me just the other day that she put her job on the line for my case with my car several times (she's full of it). She's doing the process work that is supposed to be done, thats it. This one retires next year... so I will likely be dealing with a new counselor while I am doing the whole job search process... so I hope I dont run into the problems you have had! From: Amy <charmedcripchic@...> Subject: Voc Rehab question Date: Thursday, January 15, 2009, 6:05 PM Please advise me on your experiences and/or knowlege of vocation rehabilitation services. Currently my VR {called MRC in this state} worker that was good, left to have her baby. Her replacement has derailed the plans and evaluations me and the former counselor set up. The new counselor is trying to make me do jobs that are physically impossible, innappropriate and a danger to my health, to do. I keep politely informing my VR/MRC person about my health situation and she keeps trying to bully my muscles into obeying her command. I'm being bitched out by her for not applying to a sheltered workshop for the {retarded} developmentally delayed, Wal*mart greeter, or doing a job that involves managing mentally ill individuals with daily violent outbursts. My current VR/MRC 'counselor' acts very controlling, demanding, dismissive of my real disabilities, and treats me like a 2nd class citizen in my own home. She even tries to order my own employed assistants around and at other times tries to 'catch' me as 'lieing' by demanding me to physically demonstrate if I can't reach, lift, etc. Have any members here dealt with this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2009 Report Share Posted January 25, 2009 This totally reminded me of something else. My counselor was being stupid about something, as she often is, and I called regional to complain... it is supposed to be annon... tell me why the next day I got a phone call from my counselor stating that she knew I called to complain and she wanted me to confront her with my problems! I did that and she did nothing, so I went over her head... and it got me NO WHERE!!! On another situation I emailed the head of our regional on my car issue when she refused to give me a copy of my eval, HE emailed me back and carbon copied the original email to my counselor..... so once again, my complaints were not confidential and I was made to feel like an idiot later on! From: MJ Purk <TWEETYROLL88@...> Subject: Re: Voc Rehab question Date: Friday, January 16, 2009, 7:28 PM Hi Amy I'm just starting in my major to be some kind of rehabilitation specialist. I obviously don't know much, yet, but I do know that your VR person is way out of line. I would suggest you speak with a supervisor and document everything your VR person has said. This question may seem really out of line, and feel free to say no, but would you mind if I shared your story with my casework professor & class as an example of what NOT to do? Thanks for sharing your story. It has helped me! MJ Purk SMA type I+, 21 years old “Your life is an occasion, rise to it.” ~ Hoffman in Mr. Magorium's Wonder Emporium Ask me about B4SMA – Blankets for SMA kids, Our-SMA-Angels websites, and Personalized Merchandise! www.our-sma- angels.com/ b4sma - B4SMA, My organization www.our-sma- angels.com/ Margaret - My website www.cafepress. com/b4sma - My Shop Voc Rehab question Posted by: " Amy " charmedcripchic charmedcripchic Thu Jan 15, 2009 6:05 pm (PST) Please advise me on your experiences and/or knowlege of vocation rehabilitation services. Currently my VR {called MRC in this state} worker that was good, left to have her baby. Her=2 0replacement has derailed the plans and evaluations me and the former counselor set up. The new counselor is trying to make me do jobs that are physically impossible, innappropriate and a danger to my health, to do. I keep politely informing my VR/MRC person about my health situation and she keeps trying to bully my muscles into obeying her command. I'm being bitched out by her for not applying to a sheltered workshop for the {retarded} developmentally delayed, Wal*mart greeter, or doing a job that involves managing mentally ill individuals with daily violent outbursts. My current VR/MRC 'counselor' acts very controlling, demanding, dismissive of my real disabilities, and treats me like a 2nd class citizen in my own home. She even tries to order my own employed assistants around and at other times tries to 'catch' me as 'lieing' by demanding me to physically demonstrate if I can't reach, lift, etc. Have any members here dealt with this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2009 Report Share Posted January 25, 2009 I feel very lucky now to live in land's Montgomery county after hearing these horror stories. My Voc Rehab counselor is great. They have an independent living group that gives extremely valuable information about working while on SSI or SSDI. The county runs employment training workshops that are actually informative and helpful. And the MDA clinic here mailed me a detailed list of all their approved vendors, clinic locations, and even the contact information for the above-mentioned IL group. (Amazingly the local MDA seems aware of the fact we have lives beyond going to clinic appointments.) Even the public transportation people are nice. Very strange to me, compared to the disgruntled service I got back in Ohio. I'm telling you, move to Silver Spring with me. Jenn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2009 Report Share Posted January 25, 2009 Wow, that is great to hear. I'm glad you like your new home despite the cold/snowy weather. L Sent from my Verizon BlackBerry Re: Re: Voc Rehab question I feel very lucky now to live in land's Montgomery county after hearing these horror stories. My Voc Rehab counselor is great. They have an independent living group that gives extremely valuable information about working while on SSI or SSDI. The county runs employment training workshops that are actually informative and helpful. And the MDA clinic here mailed me a detailed list of all their approved vendors, clinic locations, and even the contact information for the above-mentioned IL group. (Amazingly the local MDA seems aware of the fact we have lives beyond going to clinic appointments.) Even the public transportation people are nice. Very strange to me, compared to the disgruntled service I got back in Ohio. I'm telling you, move to Silver Spring with me. Jenn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2009 Report Share Posted January 27, 2009 Lori, Actually it's not nearly as snowy here as it was in Ohio. In fact, they called off the kids' schools today because of 1/2 inch of snow. It definitely wouldn't have been a snow day in Cincinnati. I wouldn't mind living somewhere a tad bit warmer year round, but I think this will do for now. Jenn On Jan 25, 2009, at 5:02 PM, Lori wrote: > Wow, that is great to hear. I'm glad you like your new home despite > the cold/snowy weather. > > L Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2009 Report Share Posted January 27, 2009 That is great! I know you like to stay warm and love your space heater as much as I do! While I'm thinking about trying to staying warm...this past holiday season, I treated myself to the " Snuggie " (the blanket with the sleeves). It is the ultimate blanket! It is soft and keeps me so toasty warm! If you are thinking about getting one, it is totally worth it. It is $35 00 including shipping. You get two of them. ( https://www.getsnuggie.com/flare/next ) Btw, I enjoy your posts on Twitter. L ________________________________ From: Malatesta Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 15:35:48 -0500 < > Subject: Re: Re: Voc Rehab question Lori, Actually it's not nearly as snowy here as it was in Ohio. In fact, they called off the kids' schools today because of 1/2 inch of snow. It definitely wouldn't have been a snow day in Cincinnati. I wouldn't mind living somewhere a tad bit warmer year round, but I think this will do for now. Jenn On Jan 25, 2009, at 5:02 PM, Lori wrote: > Wow, that is great to hear. I'm glad you like your new home despite > the cold/snowy weather. > > L Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2009 Report Share Posted January 27, 2009 i love the idea of a snuggie except in the ad they all look like they have joined some sort of cult! will see if available in uk. cheers linda wondering whether to twitter 2009/1/28 Lori G <lorig713@...> > > That is great! I know you like to stay warm and love your space heater as > much as I do! > > While I'm thinking about trying to staying warm...this past holiday season, > I treated myself to the " Snuggie " (the blanket with the sleeves). It is the > ultimate blanket! It is soft and keeps me so toasty warm! If you are > thinking about getting one, it is totally worth it. It is $35 00 including > shipping. You get two of them. ( https://www.getsnuggie.com/flare/next ) > > Btw, I enjoy your posts on Twitter. > > L > > ________________________________ > > From: Malatesta > Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 15:35:48 -0500 > > < <%40>> > Subject: Re: Re: Voc Rehab question > > Lori, > > Actually it's not nearly as snowy here as it was in Ohio. In fact, > they called off the kids' schools today because of 1/2 inch of snow. > It definitely wouldn't have been a snow day in Cincinnati. I > wouldn't mind living somewhere a tad bit warmer year round, but I > think this will do for now. > > Jenn > > On Jan 25, 2009, at 5:02 PM, Lori wrote: > > > Wow, that is great to hear. I'm glad you like your new home despite > > the cold/snowy weather. > > > > L > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2009 Report Share Posted January 27, 2009 lol...that is true! When in bed, sometimes I don't put my arms thru and have wrap my head in the warm and soft sleeves. It keeps my head nice and warm...especially on hair washing nights. I look awesome too! L ________________________________ From: Moss <lindajmoss@...> Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 6:56:45 PM Subject: Re: Re: Voc Rehab question i love the idea of a snuggie except in the ad they all look like they have joined some sort of cult! will see if available in uk. cheers linda wondering whether to twitter 2009/1/28 Lori G <lorig713 (DOT) com> > > That is great! I know you like to stay warm and love your space heater as > much as I do! > > While I'm thinking about trying to staying warm...this past holiday season, > I treated myself to the " Snuggie " (the blanket with the sleeves). It is the > ultimate blanket! It is soft and keeps me so toasty warm! If you are > thinking about getting one, it is totally worth it. It is $35 00 including > shipping. You get two of them. ( https://www. getsnuggie. com/flare/ next ) > > Btw, I enjoy your posts on Twitter. > > L > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > From: Malatesta > Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 15:35:48 -0500 > > <@gro ups.com <% 40groups. com>> > Subject: Re: Re: Voc Rehab question > > Lori, > > Actually it's not nearly as snowy here as it was in Ohio. In fact, > they called off the kids' schools today because of 1/2 inch of snow. > It definitely wouldn't have been a snow day in Cincinnati. I > wouldn't mind living somewhere a tad bit warmer year round, but I > think this will do for now. > > Jenn > > On Jan 25, 2009, at 5:02 PM, Lori wrote: > > > Wow, that is great to hear. I'm glad you like your new home despite > > the cold/snowy weather. > > > > L > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2009 Report Share Posted January 29, 2009 Ughhh shouldn't discussions about snuggie fashions have it's own thread instead of highjacking my voc rehab topic?..... Can we try to not dilute the discussions with unrelated topics to the original content please? > > > > > Wow, that is great to hear. I'm glad you like your new home despite > > > the cold/snowy weather. > > > > > > L > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2009 Report Share Posted January 29, 2009 yes and thanks to kristina for doing just that 2 days ago. cheers linda 2009/1/30 Amy <charmedcripchic@...> > Ughhh shouldn't discussions about snuggie fashions have it's own > thread instead of highjacking my voc rehab topic?..... > > Can we try to not dilute the discussions with unrelated topics to the > original content please? > > > > > > > > > > Wow, that is great to hear. I'm glad you like your new home > despite > > > > the cold/snowy weather. > > > > > > > > L > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2009 Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 Amy, Many responses to this so I apologize if I'm repeating what one may have said. I recently got a job as a DOR counselor - and I've seen this happen. However, according to our guidelines we are to work by - the CLIEMT (you) are the one to make the choices - this is what we call " informed choice " - but also, the counselor could be giving you limited or unrealistic choices. Also, when a counselor leaves, cases are transferred in a way that is very difficult to provide the client with the best services - because its stepping into a blind situation and one where a counselor already has to take on more cases than they can handle. Either way - it should have been made clear, and legally we must tell our clients that if they cannot resolve an issue with the counselor, to then go to the supervisor, and higher if need be. And yes, you can request a new counselor. Hope that helps and I was not repeating what has been said! L > > > Please advise me on your experiences and/or knowlege of vocation > rehabilitation services. > > Currently my VR {called MRC in this state} worker that was good, left to > have her baby. > > Her replacement has derailed the plans and evaluations me and the former > counselor set up. > > The new counselor is trying to make me do jobs that are physically > impossible, innappropriate and a danger to my health, to do. > > I keep politely informing my VR/MRC person about my health situation > > and she keeps trying to bully my muscles into obeying her command. > > I'm being bitched out by her for not applying to a sheltered workshop > for the {retarded} developmentally delayed, Wal*mart greeter, or doing a > job that involves managing mentally ill individuals with daily violent > outbursts. > > My current VR/MRC 'counselor' acts very controlling, demanding, > dismissive of my real disabilities, and treats me like a 2nd class > citizen in my own home. > > She even tries to order my own employed assistants around and at other > times tries to 'catch' me as 'lieing' by demanding me to physically > demonstrate if I can't reach, lift, etc. > > Have any members here dealt with this? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2009 Report Share Posted February 3, 2009 What is CLIEMT? My current counsilor keeps trying to bully me into {for lack of better terms} retard and loony tune sheltered sweatshop work that pays less than minimum wage. That is not appropriate for me. I would be alongside people who are prone to dementia and violence while being expected to tear rags, sort trash for recycling, pull weeds, rake lawns, sort used clothing, etc. I don't know many SMAers with Type 1 Werding Hoffmans disease and 160+ I.Q.s who should do this work > > > > > > Please advise me on your experiences and/or knowlege of vocation > > rehabilitation services. > > > > Currently my VR {called MRC in this state} worker that was good, left to > > have her baby. > > > > Her replacement has derailed the plans and evaluations me and the former > > counselor set up. > > > > The new counselor is trying to make me do jobs that are physically > > impossible, innappropriate and a danger to my health, to do. > > > > I keep politely informing my VR/MRC person about my health situation > > > > and she keeps trying to bully my muscles into obeying her command. > > > > I'm being bitched out by her for not applying to a sheltered workshop > > for the {retarded} developmentally delayed, Wal*mart greeter, or doing a > > job that involves managing mentally ill individuals with daily violent > > outbursts. > > > > My current VR/MRC 'counselor' acts very controlling, demanding, > > dismissive of my real disabilities, and treats me like a 2nd class > > citizen in my own home. > > > > She even tries to order my own employed assistants around and at other > > times tries to 'catch' me as 'lieing' by demanding me to physically > > demonstrate if I can't reach, lift, etc. > > > > Have any members here dealt with this? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 Greetings I am jumping in this conversation late in the game here, but all the same I wish to comment on the degrating experience I've encountered with my first vrc; that was in the late '70's :/ Nadine > > > > > > > > > Please advise me on your experiences and/or knowlege of vocation > > > rehabilitation services. > > > > > > Currently my VR {called MRC in this state} worker that was good, > left to > > > have her baby. > > > > > > Her replacement has derailed the plans and evaluations me and the > former > > > counselor set up. > > > > > > The new counselor is trying to make me do jobs that are physically > > > impossible, innappropriate and a danger to my health, to do. > > > > > > I keep politely informing my VR/MRC person about my health > situation > > > > > > and she keeps trying to bully my muscles into obeying her > command. > > > > > > I'm being bitched out by her for not applying to a sheltered > workshop > > > for the {retarded} developmentally delayed, Wal*mart greeter, or > doing a > > > job that involves managing mentally ill individuals with daily > violent > > > outbursts. > > > > > > My current VR/MRC 'counselor' acts very controlling, demanding, > > > dismissive of my real disabilities, and treats me like a 2nd class > > > citizen in my own home. > > > > > > She even tries to order my own employed assistants around and at > other > > > times tries to 'catch' me as 'lieing' by demanding me to > physically > > > demonstrate if I can't reach, lift, etc. > > > > > > Have any members here dealt with this? > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2009 Report Share Posted February 5, 2009 though i hear your understandable frustration amy, i am uncomfortable with you using words like retard and loony tune. i think it vital we dont try to position ourselves higher than others in the disability hierarchy which we should all be trying to make obsolete. cheers linda 2009/2/4 Amy <charmedcripchic@...> > What is CLIEMT? > > My current counsilor keeps trying to bully me into {for lack of > better terms} retard and loony tune sheltered sweatshop work that > pays less than minimum wage. > > That is not appropriate for me. > > I would be alongside people who are prone to dementia and violence > while being expected to tear rags, sort trash for recycling, pull > weeds, rake lawns, sort used clothing, etc. > > I don't know many SMAers with Type 1 Werding Hoffmans disease and > 160+ I.Q.s who should do this work > > > > > > > > > > > Please advise me on your experiences and/or knowlege of vocation > > > rehabilitation services. > > > > > > Currently my VR {called MRC in this state} worker that was good, > left to > > > have her baby. > > > > > > Her replacement has derailed the plans and evaluations me and the > former > > > counselor set up. > > > > > > The new counselor is trying to make me do jobs that are physically > > > impossible, innappropriate and a danger to my health, to do. > > > > > > I keep politely informing my VR/MRC person about my health > situation > > > > > > and she keeps trying to bully my muscles into obeying her > command. > > > > > > I'm being bitched out by her for not applying to a sheltered > workshop > > > for the {retarded} developmentally delayed, Wal*mart greeter, or > doing a > > > job that involves managing mentally ill individuals with daily > violent > > > outbursts. > > > > > > My current VR/MRC 'counselor' acts very controlling, demanding, > > > dismissive of my real disabilities, and treats me like a 2nd class > > > citizen in my own home. > > > > > > She even tries to order my own employed assistants around and at > other > > > times tries to 'catch' me as 'lieing' by demanding me to > physically > > > demonstrate if I can't reach, lift, etc. > > > > > > Have any members here dealt with this? > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2009 Report Share Posted February 6, 2009 That's why I wrote- quote " for lack of better terms " Woyuld you like to be forced to be at the mercy of an other wised abled bodied but disabled minded person who rubs their own shit, regurge, snot, semen, on whatever they can reach? How bout a person who grabs you to jump up and down with them while screaming the lyrics to " Yellow Submarine " for non stop hours all day? Or a guy with dementia trying to feel you up cause you look like his wife from over 40 yrs ago? Or get beaten with a desk knick knack by a crazy person after saying " Happy Birthday Jimmy " These things really have happened. > > > > > > > > > > > > Please advise me on your experiences and/or knowlege of vocation > > > > rehabilitation services. > > > > > > > > Currently my VR {called MRC in this state} worker that was good, > > left to > > > > have her baby. > > > > > > > > Her replacement has derailed the plans and evaluations me and the > > former > > > > counselor set up. > > > > > > > > The new counselor is trying to make me do jobs that are physically > > > > impossible, innappropriate and a danger to my health, to do. > > > > > > > > I keep politely informing my VR/MRC person about my health > > situation > > > > > > > > and she keeps trying to bully my muscles into obeying her > > command. > > > > > > > > I'm being bitched out by her for not applying to a sheltered > > workshop > > > > for the {retarded} developmentally delayed, Wal*mart greeter, or > > doing a > > > > job that involves managing mentally ill individuals with daily > > violent > > > > outbursts. > > > > > > > > My current VR/MRC 'counselor' acts very controlling, demanding, > > > > dismissive of my real disabilities, and treats me like a 2nd class > > > > citizen in my own home. > > > > > > > > She even tries to order my own employed assistants around and at > > other > > > > times tries to 'catch' me as 'lieing' by demanding me to > > physically > > > > demonstrate if I can't reach, lift, etc. > > > > > > > > Have any members here dealt with this? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2009 Report Share Posted February 7, 2009 amy these sorts of things happen when the people with these conditions are not offerered the support/supervision they need, similar to how we would sit stinking of shit and BO if we couldnt access the support we also need. please see that all disabled people are better united in accessing the support/supervision they need, and focus on that rather than labeling other disabled people as a risk to you purely because of their condition. my mum has dementia and i safely spend a lot of time with her in a residential home full of people you might disrectfully label " crazy " (as well as people with dementia it also accommodates elderly people with mental health issues). i spent a lot of time choosing a home for her where i felt she would be safe and well supported/supervised. the difference between the homes i looked at wasnt the medical conditions of the people who lived there but rather the management culture and staff. therefor again please target the support structures and management culture on the places that you find offensive rather than the disabled people in them. cheers linda 2009/2/7 Amy <charmedcripchic@...> > That's why I wrote- quote " for lack of better terms " > > Woyuld you like to be forced to be at the mercy of an other wised > abled bodied but disabled minded person who rubs their own shit, > regurge, snot, semen, on whatever they can reach? > > How bout a person who grabs you to jump up and down with them while > screaming the lyrics to " Yellow Submarine " for non stop hours all day? > > Or a guy with dementia trying to feel you up cause you look like his > wife from over 40 yrs ago? > > Or get beaten with a desk knick knack by a crazy person after > saying " Happy Birthday Jimmy " > > These things really have happened. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please advise me on your experiences and/or knowlege of > vocation > > > > > rehabilitation services. > > > > > > > > > > Currently my VR {called MRC in this state} worker that was > good, > > > left to > > > > > have her baby. > > > > > > > > > > Her replacement has derailed the plans and evaluations me and > the > > > former > > > > > counselor set up. > > > > > > > > > > The new counselor is trying to make me do jobs that are > physically > > > > > impossible, innappropriate and a danger to my health, to do. > > > > > > > > > > I keep politely informing my VR/MRC person about my health > > > situation > > > > > > > > > > and she keeps trying to bully my muscles into obeying her > > > command. > > > > > > > > > > I'm being bitched out by her for not applying to a sheltered > > > workshop > > > > > for the {retarded} developmentally delayed, Wal*mart greeter, > or > > > doing a > > > > > job that involves managing mentally ill individuals with daily > > > violent > > > > > outbursts. > > > > > > > > > > My current VR/MRC 'counselor' acts very controlling, > demanding, > > > > > dismissive of my real disabilities, and treats me like a 2nd > class > > > > > citizen in my own home. > > > > > > > > > > She even tries to order my own employed assistants around and > at > > > other > > > > > times tries to 'catch' me as 'lieing' by demanding me to > > > physically > > > > > demonstrate if I can't reach, lift, etc. > > > > > > > > > > Have any members here dealt with this? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2009 Report Share Posted February 7, 2009 Yess I knowwwwwwww thattttttt. Try to Keep to the Context please. I'm not the enemy here. I'm not the person responsible for badly managed care situations. Would you like it if me being placed in a dementia center took away resources for the propper care of your mother? The money and walls of these programs don't stretch to fit every person with any disabilities being lumped together. Here's a few facts , not wanting a label put on me innappropriatly because of my needs for wheelchair access dosen't mean I'm labeling your mother. Having a phsical disability dosen't qualify me to be an autism, mental health, or dementia, miracle worker. Having all the compassion in the world dosen't mean I'm responsible, able, or obligated, to fixing these fucked systems. There's no solidarity going to happen between me and somone who can't learn beyond a tellatubby episode, stop slapping their own ears into mush, or remember what year we are living in. " All disabilities " - as you put it- realy can not meet your unrealistic ideals to unite and help each other. Me working myself into an earlier grave isn't going to help anybody. You have safe and meaningful visits with your mother at a dementia care center, good for you- but where does that compare with me being told to work under minimum wage at the mercy of violent schizophrenics off of their medications in a state shafting day program? My topic was about being steered to work in situations that are dangerous to people with SMA. Since many of the SMAers I've met have been lumped innappropriately with people who's disabilities affect their ability to reason, act appropriately, function in social and work situations, during their entire lives, I figured there'd be some support here. Instead I'm getting another lecture from the ivory tower. [AGAIN] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please advise me on your experiences and/or knowlege of > > vocation > > > > > > rehabilitation services. > > > > > > > > > > > > Currently my VR {called MRC in this state} worker that was > > good, > > > > left to > > > > > > have her baby. > > > > > > > > > > > > Her replacement has derailed the plans and evaluations me and > > the > > > > former > > > > > > counselor set up. > > > > > > > > > > > > The new counselor is trying to make me do jobs that are > > physically > > > > > > impossible, innappropriate and a danger to my health, to do. > > > > > > > > > > > > I keep politely informing my VR/MRC person about my health > > > > situation > > > > > > > > > > > > and she keeps trying to bully my muscles into obeying her > > > > command. > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm being bitched out by her for not applying to a sheltered > > > > workshop > > > > > > for the {retarded} developmentally delayed, Wal*mart greeter, > > or > > > > doing a > > > > > > job that involves managing mentally ill individuals with daily > > > > violent > > > > > > outbursts. > > > > > > > > > > > > My current VR/MRC 'counselor' acts very controlling, > > demanding, > > > > > > dismissive of my real disabilities, and treats me like a 2nd > > class > > > > > > citizen in my own home. > > > > > > > > > > > > She even tries to order my own employed assistants around and > > at > > > > other > > > > > > times tries to 'catch' me as 'lieing' by demanding me to > > > > physically > > > > > > demonstrate if I can't reach, lift, etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > Have any members here dealt with this? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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