Re: Dan Burton , Dave Weldon , Autism Speaks

[Guest guest]

Because Autism Speaks touts fatally flawed epidemiology to cast doubt

on the relationship between thimerosal and autism.

http://www.autismspeaks.org/science_policy.php

Because Andy Shih, who serves as Autism Speaks Chief Scientific

Officer has repeatedly publicly stated there is no relationship

between thimerosal and autism.

http://www.autismspeaks.org/leadership.php#andy

Because NAAR, an organization that funded fatally flawed epidemiologic

studies that denied causation between MMR and autism, merged with

autism speaks. NAAR cronies still populate the ranks of Autism Speaks

paid employees. http://www.naar.org/news/render_pr.asp?

intNewsItemID=335

Because CDC employee, Marshalyn Yeargin-Allsop, serves on Autism

Speaks Scientific Advisory Board, the same board that decides who will

get grant money for autism research.

http://www.autismspeaks.org/science_advisory.php. Dr. Yeargin-Allsop

has actively colluded to keep data demonstrating the causal

relationship between vaccines and autism out of the public eye.

Burton, Weldon and others are wise not to support Autism Speaks.

Mr. and Mrs. - I hope you are reading this. With all due

respect, Autism Speaks DOES NOT speak for my son. And he is doing

better because of that fact!

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> such as Congressmen Dan Burton and Dave Weldon?

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[Guest guest]

Why Burton, Weldon and other heroes don't support Autism Speaks:

Because Autism Speaks touts fatally flawed epidemiology to cast doubt

on the relationship between thimerosal and autism.

http://www.autismspeaks.org/science_policy.php

Because Andy Shih, who serves as Autism Speaks Chief Scientific

Officer has repeatedly publicly stated there is no relationship

between thimerosal and autism.

http://www.autismspeaks.org/leadership.php#andy

Because NAAR, an organization that funded fatally flawed

epidemiologic studies that denied causation between MMR and autism,

merged with autism speaks. NAAR cronies still populate the ranks of

Autism Speaks paid employees.

http://www.naar.org/news/render_pr.asp?intNewsItemID=335

Because CDC employee, Marshalyn Yeargin-Allsop, serves on Autism

Speaks Scientific Advisory Board, the same board that decides who

will get grant money for autism research.

http://www.autismspeaks.org/science_advisory.php

Dr. Yeargin-Allsop has actively colluded to keep data demonstrating

the causal relationship between vaccines and autism out of the

public eye.

Burton, Weldon and others are wise not to support Autism Speaks.

Mr. and Mrs. - I hope you are reading this. With all due

respect, Autism Speaks DOES NOT speak for my son. And he is doing

better because of that fact!

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[Guest guest]

Can anyone " in the know " speak to this post? I am starting to feel

sick to my stomach and am breaking out in a cold sweat -- will the

millions of dollars generated by AS go down the drains???? Is it

just going to generate awareness and stop there?

Remember, I'm the woman who looked Mrs. in the EYE at the

Flutie Event and said " WILL AUTISM SPEAKS LOOK INTO THE MERCURY AND

VACCINE CORRELATION? " and she responded directly to me " YES! "

Is AS simply NAAR in prettier clothing?

KS

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[Guest guest]

Go to their website. Poke around... I have no confidence. I've

left numerous phone messages and sent many emails voicing my

concerns. I have heard nothing back...

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[Guest guest]

You are to be commended in asking Mrs. that question

(Suzanne, not , correct?). However, the person who could

answer that and make a definitive statement is Dr. Goldstein,

Chair of the Scientific Affairs Committee.

http://www.autismspeaks.org/leadership.php#gary

Suzanne has not gone on the record stating whether she

believes that vaccines played a role in her grandson's autism.

Neither has Bob (who had ample opportunity on the Imus

show). Hildebrand (who has nothing to do with Autism

Speaks) did go on record that she believed that vaccines contributed

to her son's autism.

I hope her parents follow suit soon!

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[Guest guest]

Regarding Shih:

" Earlier this week, Dr. Shih of the National Alliance for

Autism Research appeared on Montel and also endorsed the

use of mercury in vaccines. Shih stated that his infant received

vaccines which may or may have not contained thimerosal—he felt no

need to ask for thimerosal-free. Fournier (Portsmouth, RI),

parent and president of NAA, asks, 'Why would Shih, or any

parent deliberately give their child a substance that's label

contains a Jolly- symbol?'

Today, Don Imus of Imus in the Morning called ABC's report

an 'embarrassment.' "

http://tinyurl.com/mwjc9

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[Guest guest]

If Mrs. said they will look into mercury, they will look into mercury.

How many moles and other saboteurs are in that organization to frustrate that purpose is another issue.

Re: Dan Burton , Dave Weldon , Autism Speaks

Can anyone "in the know" speak to this post? I am starting to feel sick to my stomach and am breaking out in a cold sweat -- will the millions of dollars generated by AS go down the drains???? Is it just going to generate awareness and stop there?Remember, I'm the woman who looked Mrs. in the EYE at the Flutie Event and said "WILL AUTISM SPEAKS LOOK INTO THE MERCURY AND VACCINE CORRELATION?" and she responded directly to me "YES!"Is AS simply NAAR in prettier clothing? KS> > >> > > > > > Any reason why Autism Speaks has not embraced real autism > crusaders > > > such as Congressmen Dan Burton and Dave Weldon?> > >> >>

[Guest guest]

How can I contact Goldstein?

H. H.Fudenberg, M.D.,DDG.IOM

Inman, SC 29349

(864) 592 8076

Website nitrf.org

From: " Hooker" <sploobnoober@...>Reply-EOHarm To: EOHarm Subject: Re: Dan Burton , Dave Weldon , Autism SpeaksDate: Wed, 07 Jun 2006 12:45:34 -0000>You are to be commended in asking Mrs. that question>(Suzanne, not , correct?). However, the person who could>answer that and make a definitive statement is Dr. Goldstein,>Chair of the Scientific Affairs Committee.>http://www.autismspeaks.org/leadership.php#gary>>Suzanne has not gone on the record stating whether she>believes that vaccines played a role in her grandson's autism.>Neither has Bob (who had ample opportunity on the Imus>show). Hildebrand (who has nothing to do with Autism>Speaks) did go on record that she believed that vaccines contributed>to her son's autism.>>I hope her parents follow suit soon!>>>>> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Any reason why Autism Speaks has not embraced real autism> > > crusaders> > > > > such as Congressmen Dan Burton and Dave Weldon?> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>>>>>>>>

[Guest guest]

The statement that they will " look into mercury " doesn't inspire a

whole lot of confidence, frankly...

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[Guest guest]

Agreed. We'll have to beat them like a drum.

There are ways.

Re: Dan Burton , Dave Weldon , Autism Speaks

The statement that they will "look into mercury" doesn't inspire a whole lot of confidence, frankly...> > > >> > > > > > > > Any reason why Autism Speaks has not embraced real autism > > crusaders > > > > such as Congressmen Dan Burton and Dave Weldon?> > > >> > >> >>

[Guest guest]

With all due respect, " moles and saboteurs " ????

The Chief Scientific Officer Andy Shih??? (mole or saboteur???)

Gets up and touts thimerosal containing vaccines on the Montel

Show??? (mole or saboteur???)

Sorry - the main influences of Autism Speaks don't have your kid's

interests at heart...

WAY MORE THAN MORE OR SABOTEUR!!!! WE'RE TALKING THE CHIEF

SCIENTIFIC OFFICER!!!!!

If Autism Speaks moves forward without Shih and Yeargin-Allsop

(i.e., they resign) - MAYBE...

If Shih very publicly denouces his reckless statements on the Montel

show AND Yeargin-Allsop resigns - MAYBE...

UNTIL THEN - NO!!! They don't represent nor do they speak for my

son...

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[Guest guest]

Thanks Henry - I'll help with my drumstick as well!!!!

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What do you want me to say.

You got what you got.

It's obviously not ideal- maybe even it totally sucks.

Work around it.

If NAAR was whole and independent, that would be worse.

The fact that they had to merge, means there is hope, especially if Autism Speaks people who understand this issue grab hold of it.

I don't believe that the s are unconscious of this issue- they can't be given what knows.

Dateline just did a reasonably favorable piece on chelation- that's Bob's network- he could have pulled it.

They may yet trash it.

But we're still way far ahead of where we were.

Re: Dan Burton , Dave Weldon , Autism Speaks

With all due respect, "moles and saboteurs"????The Chief Scientific Officer Andy Shih??? (mole or saboteur???)Gets up and touts thimerosal containing vaccines on the Montel Show??? (mole or saboteur???)Sorry - the main influences of Autism Speaks don't have your kid's interests at heart...WAY MORE THAN MORE OR SABOTEUR!!!! WE'RE TALKING THE CHIEF SCIENTIFIC OFFICER!!!!!If Autism Speaks moves forward without Shih and Yeargin-Allsop (i.e., they resign) - MAYBE...If Shih very publicly denouces his reckless statements on the Montel show AND Yeargin-Allsop resigns - MAYBE...UNTIL THEN - NO!!! They don't represent nor do they speak for my son...> > > >> > > > > > > > Any reason why Autism Speaks has not embraced real autism > > crusaders > > > > such as Congressmen Dan Burton and Dave Weldon?> > > >> > >> >>

[Guest guest]

Agreed... We've got what we've got:

Safeminds

National Autism Association

Generation Rescue

Unlocking Autism

Autism Society of America

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[Guest guest]

We've got what we've got (part deux):

Cure Autism Now

Autism Research Institute

Actors for Autism

Moms Against Mercury (produced PSAs)

Dads Against Mercury

Moms on a Mission for Autism

Defeat Autism Now!

-- In EOHarm , " Hooker " <sploobnoober@...>

wrote:

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> National Autism Association

> Generation Rescue

> Unlocking Autism

> Autism Society of America

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[Guest guest]

Agreed, those are all much, much better.

But let's not discount Autism Speaks to zero even if Shih is chief saboteur.

A lot of people in that group do not agree with Shih.

And they are getting the word out.

The cause will come from the more favorable groups.

But note the shift over time in Autism Speaks.

That will come and will signal the shift in the understanding of this issue.

Re: Dan Burton , Dave Weldon , Autism Speaks

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[Guest guest]

We've got what we've got (part troix):

A-CHAMP

NoMercury

AGRE

International Child Development Resource Center (Good News Doctor)

Thoughtful House

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[Guest guest]

Kim,

I was at that same conference with

you and last night I saw Mark Blaxill and Dr. Deth speak again. The

evidence that Kirby and Mark Blaxill report is far too compelling for

to ignore. She watched both of them at that conference.

The Andy Shihs of the

bunch just keep reporting the same epidemiological studies with NO new info.

Mark’s speech was current, all numbers, all graphs, and he makes complete

sense. Mercury answers all of the questions. Since I don’t think this

will be the only time Mrs is in the room while these compelling stats

are being reported, and because of that she WILL bring forth the truth. I

really believe the s are “in” the world of politics which is

about manipulation. They know they cannot come right out and scream “Mercury”,

they won’t get the support. Calculated manipulation has got a much better

chance of working.

As for Andy Shih, he should be invited to one of these

conferences where the STRAIGHT (unadulterated) numbers do not lie. There was a

particular slide that Mark Blaxill showed last night on what the affected (autopsied)

brains of people with Autism look like, the brain’s differences from

normal brains, and then he showed the same picture of what ethyl mercury does

to the brain. Way TOO compelling. -

From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of krstagliano

Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006

8:30 AM

EOHarm

Subject: Re: Dan Burton ,

Dave Weldon , Autism Speaks

Can anyone " in the know " speak to this post?

I am starting to feel

sick to my stomach and am breaking out in a cold sweat -- will the

millions of dollars generated by AS go down the drains???? Is it

just going to generate awareness and stop there?

Remember, I'm the woman who looked Mrs. in the EYE at the

Flutie Event and said " WILL AUTISM SPEAKS LOOK INTO THE MERCURY AND

VACCINE CORRELATION? " and she responded directly to me

" YES! "

Is AS simply NAAR in prettier clothing?

KS

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> crusaders

> > > such as Congressmen Dan Burton and Dave Weldon?

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[Guest guest]

Henry,

Don't take any wooden nickels.

Re: Dan Burton , Dave Weldon , Autism Speaks

Can anyone "in the know" speak to this post? I am starting to feel sick to my stomach and am breaking out in a cold sweat -- will the millions of dollars generated by AS go down the drains???? Is it just going to generate awareness and stop there?Remember, I'm the woman who looked Mrs. in the EYE at the Flutie Event and said "WILL AUTISM SPEAKS LOOK INTO THE MERCURY AND VACCINE CORRELATION?" and she responded directly to me "YES!"Is AS simply NAAR in prettier clothing? KS> > >> > > > > > Any reason why Autism Speaks has not embraced real autism > crusaders > > > such as Congressmen Dan Burton and Dave Weldon?> > >> >>

[Guest guest]

All this " accepting " takes time. When we first started realizing Allie

was sick, I had not even realized it was the vaccine. I knew something

changed shortly after getting chicken pox, but it was several months

later that her vaccine record lept of the page at me with the date.

Then the memories came flooding back, the entire incident. Then it was

several months before I actually accepted it and was willing to talk

about it, then a little longer before I was ready to advocate for it.

The s may have all the wealth and power, but beyond it all they

are parents and grandparents. They are on a learning curve, they are

grieving, and they are afraid. Give 'em some time, they're already

coming around. It's a big step to go from blindly following medical

vaccine protocol (as I did) to completely fighting for change. That's

not a money/power thing, it's a human emotion thing.

Debi

[Guest guest]

I labor/operate under no illusions.

Yet another clue for HH Fudenberg!!!!!

Re: Dan Burton , Dave Weldon , Autism Speaks

Can anyone "in the know" speak to this post? I am starting to feel sick to my stomach and am breaking out in a cold sweat -- will the millions of dollars generated by AS go down the drains???? Is it just going to generate awareness and stop there?Remember, I'm the woman who looked Mrs. in the EYE at the Flutie Event and said "WILL AUTISM SPEAKS LOOK INTO THE MERCURY AND VACCINE CORRELATION?" and she responded directly to me "YES!"Is AS simply NAAR in prettier clothing? KS> > >> > > > > > Any reason why Autism Speaks has not embraced real autism > crusaders > > > such as Congressmen Dan Burton and Dave Weldon?> > >> >>

[Guest guest]

Mr. ,I do not understand; please explain. Re: Dan Burton , Dave Weldon , Autism SpeaksCan anyone "in the know" speak to this post? I am starting to feel sick to my stomach and am breaking out in a cold sweat -- will the millions of dollars generated by AS go down the drains???? Is it just going to generate awareness and stop there?Remember, I'm the woman who looked Mrs. in the EYE at the Flutie Event and said "WILL AUTISM SPEAKS LOOK INTO THE MERCURY AND VACCINE CORRELATION?" and she responded directly to me "YES!"Is AS simply NAAR in prettier clothing? KS> > >> > > > > > Any reason why Autism Speaks has not embraced real autism > crusaders > > > such as Congressmen Dan Burton and Dave Weldon?> > >> >>

[Guest guest]

,

All great points, and I agree with everything you've posted including this one.

There's only a couple reasons why the RFK, Jr. story was pulled back at the last minute. One would be for a major breaking story. That didn't happen. Another reason is somebody was using Bobby's investigation for leverage against the drug ad people.

Is it clear somebody was extorting a more lucrative Ad contract out of the drug companies effectively using our children to black-mail pharma? In a way, I think they made it clear, but short of a Spitzer investigation into the collusion taking place at all networks FIOA will the best way to tell. Let's not forget these are government agencies running the nightly news broadcasts. Certainly there's a paper trail involving closed door relationships between the powerful media and government.

If we believe that dictators sitting on the bulk of the world's oil supply while developing atomic weapons are scary. How about a government with editorial control over network news content coupled with a largely foreign industry attempting to institute every man, woman, and child policies involving things loaded in syringes?

Every study the networks agrees to embargo, every dirty ad dollar rung up, every scripted moment, be it "entertainment" or a science guy gazing into a teleprompter declaring clearly false and misleading prepared statements.

What ABC, NBC, and CBS must understand is we are taking names and documenting everything. They will be held accountable for their spinelessness and for their obvious part in this government deception.

As for Bob . If we really thought that he was on our side we wouldn't be having this debate. He's got skid marks in his drawers just like everybody else.

I'll never forget how mad we all got about Bob's "Better Diagnosis Week".

Our late well beloved brother Alan took up the keyboard for us here:

http://www.nopointsfortrying.blogspot.com/

When a man who is honestly mistaken, hears the truth, he will either cease being mistaken or cease being honest." Anon

Re: Dan Burton , Dave Weldon , Autism Speaks

Regarding Shih:"Earlier this week, Dr. Shih of the National Alliance for Autism Research appeared on Montel and also endorsed the use of mercury in vaccines. Shih stated that his infant received vaccines which may or may have not contained thimerosal—he felt no need to ask for thimerosal-free. Fournier (Portsmouth, RI), parent and president of NAA, asks, 'Why would Shih, or any parent deliberately give their child a substance that's label contains a Jolly- symbol?'Today, Don Imus of Imus in the Morning called ABC's report an 'embarrassment.'" http://tinyurl.com/mwjc9--- In EOHarm , "krstagliano" <KRStagliano@...> wrote:>> Can anyone "in the know" speak to this post? I am starting to feel > sick to my stomach and am breaking out in a cold sweat -- will the > millions of dollars generated by AS go down the drains???? Is it > just going to generate awareness and stop there?> > Remember, I'm the woman who looked Mrs. in the EYE at the > Flutie Event and said "WILL AUTISM SPEAKS LOOK INTO THE MERCURY AND > VACCINE CORRELATION?" and she responded directly to me "YES!"> > Is AS simply NAAR in prettier clothing? > > KS> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Any reason why Autism Speaks has not embraced real autism > > crusaders > > > > such as Congressmen Dan Burton and Dave Weldon?> > > >> > >> >>

[Guest guest]

for d powell Agree totally Re: Dan Burton , Dave Weldon , Autism SpeaksWe've got what we've got (part deux):Cure Autism NowAutism Research InstituteActors for AutismMoms Against Mercury (produced PSAs)Dads Against MercuryMoms on a Mission for AutismDefeat Autism Now!-- In EOHarm , " Hooker" <sploobnoober@...> wrote:>> Agreed... We've got what we've got:> > Safeminds> National Autism Association> Generation Rescue> Unlocking Autism> Autism Society of America> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Any reason why Autism Speaks has not embraced real > autism > > > > crusaders > > > > > > such as Congressmen Dan Burton and Dave Weldon?> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>

[Guest guest]

Contact Information:

W. Goldstein, M.D.

President and Chief Executive Officer

Kennedy Krieger Institute

707 North Broadway, Baltimore MD 21205

(map & directions)

Telephone: 443-923-9300

Facsimile: 443-923-9317

http://www.kennedykrieger.org/kki_staff.jsp?pid=1901